Tarolock (EUNE)
: 30 min a week is a lot of time to get the boxes? and i used every single skin i got from it so far, there are a few that i unlocked and the rest was used for orange essence to unlock the rest and btw how do they make you keep playing? why would i play a game just because i have a skin? great gameplay keeps ppl playing not cosmetics, if you have great gameplay skins are just there to generate money
1.Now let's get real, 30 min a week won't get you shit.You are talking about 1 game in a week = in perfect condition (if you win all your games) 52 boxes.When will you get the keys shards, and the boxes don't give skin shards, they give also champion shards.If we get real you will win half of your games, and half of those will be S and above to get box.So you will get max 25-26boxes.Half of them will give you champions, that means 10-11 skin shards.You will break 8 of them to get 2.(and that if only you buy keys). So PLEASE i BEG you, before you type, think.You need to invest the most important resource on this god forsaken rock - time. 2.Good for you that you use all your skins, but most people don't.I get the fifth Nidale skin in a row, and i don't play her and not gonna start in the future, so the RNG is strong. 3.If the game had a great game play expirience, they wouldn't add all those eternals, masteries, icons, skin, hextech crafting bullshit.Skins compensate a lot for the shit state of the game right now, it gives a player the feeling of achievement. What you said is true - "skins are just there to generate money" - but that mean there is no free stuff too, you pay either way.
Tarolock (EUNE)
: >Not this way my dude, this is outright pathetic and dumb. really? first they made skins, and they were available ONLY for rp, then they released hextech crafting and now you can get them for FREE!!! then they made emotes, they were available for rp, then in hextech you can get them for FREE!!! borders FREE icons FREE now they add a new cosmetic which does nothing, not even as braggy as skins and its too much for you? rofl
Those things are not free, and it's very fun you think that way.You invest a lot of time to get something that is based on RNG, and you can end up never using it.Also they need to keep the player base somehow, and if they don't give those "free" stuff, players wouldn't get the feeling of achievement (since ranked is pure garbage since last season), and keep playing.
Kurotsu (EUW)
: Some stuff I didn't know that I found out (League Facts)
If you main jg you know a lot of those stuff.Here is another one.If a camp in a jg or scutlle crab are affected by some crowd control effect, they take more dmg.
Rioter Comments
: I Honestly Don't Feel Like Trying To Learn Any New Roles Anymore
Quick advice.If you try new role with new champion, first try 3-4 bot games to get a feel of your champion.That way atlest you will have some mechanical knowelege when you go into the salt mines.
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: How do you know that they didn't get punished?
Check op.gg.If they still playing they are not punished.
Alchemiczka (EUNE)
: Question to junglers
If you are wondering what to do, you are bad jungler, because junglers can influence the game in many ways. 1.Learn to gank early, don't wait all lanes to be pushed, or for you to clear all junlge.If you clear your junlge go for objectives( drakes, herald...) Learn, AND THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT, to ward.You need to track enemy jungle at all time in the game.Always look what buff he start, what scuthle he takes, deep ward his jungle.That way you can predict his ganks and counter him(that is very important when your teammates push lanes). 2.That's a trickky one.First you never want to ignore lane no matter if it's losing or not.You can help without fully comiting to kill.A lot of low elo junglers will have the same mind set when ganking a fed enemy - im afraid not to die and feed more or i need to gank and kill him for sure.Depends on situation you can help your losing lane by harasing the enymy by dealing some dmg to him and just walk away.You can help him safe farm or push the lane, and then you and your losing lane can do something together, like take objective or invade or gank other lane depending on who is losing.There is alot you can do, but NEVER ignore a lane. The key is a good comunication, and you need to have a plan of what you gonna do even before the game start.You see your team composition and you have to decide - i will gank early alot giving advantage to my laners, i will afk farm and play for objectives and mid/late game or you gonna shut enemy jg by invading him all the time.Have a clear plan, tell it to your team and work on it.If something goes wrong, adapt.As a jungler you can always change the game in many ways. You can learn some early game ganking junglers likw Warwick,Olaf, Nocturne...etc. Good luck. {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}}
: K then it's understandable i thought it was endless stacking %tual ad/ap but I've just seen a video about it and it deals way too much dmg to a point where snowball champs get unbeatable. The old dark harvest was good at 150 Stacks, This dark harvest works all time long. and thats super stupid. An roaming assassin like Talon or Zed is getting way to strong with that rune and it went from a jungle rune to primary ''we want midlane assassins to overpower all champs'' runes and thats not game healthy. It will become the new all time used thunderlords from season 5.
The problem is how it work.It trigers after your oponent is below 50% hp and it deals insane amount of damage AND it resets on kills.Looking at this rune it can be good on soooo many chamions -Zed and his pasive, Talon, Akali, basically all asasins and mages.Imagen this on Rengar or Kha, i already get nightmares.Even adc can use this run, Jhin 4 shot, MF paasive, Vayne passive, Draven, Quinn.Every damage dealer can use this rune.And the best part is it can be proked by autos AND ABILITIES - hello Karthus ult.
: Just looked up the PBE News from Surrender at 20 and im a bit weired out by dark harvest.
It wasnt endless.You hade a brief period of time to use colected soul added bonus on atack or ability .When you reached 150 souls then the time period becomes larger (300s).It was normal rune if you ask me, but now its plane %%%%%%ett.If it goes live thiw will be "fun", because it will give permament stacking damage - for example Akali can gain aroud 800 bonus damage around 30 stacks.
: First of all, it is never nice to hear that someone has permanently lost access to their account. Though it is nice to know that the system is doing the job it was designed for. Now, before people get to invert my words and say that I explicitly support this kind of system and that I think it is flawless, note that I said "...it was DESIGNED for". This implies that the system only did what it was told by someone (single person or a group), and whether I agree with their sense of justice is not what I said. However, we need to bear in mind that the whole process that leads up to a permanent ban is a lengthy one: first you just get off with a **warning**, then a **3 day ban**, then, after the three days have passed and you get back and conduct negative behaviour again, you get a **week long ban**. Then a week goes by, you focused on other things like studying (/s), you go back to the game, and repeat the same behaviour, and then you get a **two-week ban**. This one is pretty serious, and it comes with a warning that you will get permanently banned from your account lest you "reform" (I don't like this word, but most people here understand it, so here it is). And then, after two longer weeks where you went back to do some more studying and raise your grades (/s), you finally log back into the game and, for example, five games later you get into your "toxic" (don't like this one either) self, and find that you're permanently been blocked access to that account. This whole process takes at least a **whole month**, which is definitely enough time for someone to realize what is going wrong and fixing it. Honestly, if I were in such a situation, I would just mute the chat as there is no longer the "refusing to communicate" report option is gone, so you don't even have to type a word anymore. Just don't troll pick, don't give up, try to be good and you can even rank up in honor for those sweet key fragments. One interesting fact is that Riot used to repeat the two-week ban, not sure about now, so there is that hope that you can try and plead for the punishment to change for the two-week one. Good luck on that, though, Riot is not known for their mercy towards your typical permanently-banned accounts (i.e not a special case like tyler1 or the ban reverts experiment on NA server).
And again, that is not entirely true.You can get 2 week ban, without chat restriction, for using some words, that in some regions where this game is played are not considered so bad as RIOT judge them.And now you have your FIRST and FINAL warning.Fun times reforming.
Yraco (EUW)
: Even if we say it shouldn't lead to a permaban, that's how it works and OP was warned multiple times about the consequences of toxicity. "hey you're chat restricted 10 games, hopefully this is a one time thing" "hey you're chat restricted 25 games, the next punishment is that you can't play for 2 weeks" "hey you're banned 2 weeks, be careful because even a little more toxicity from you and you're being permabanned" **-Deserved Permaban¿-**
Well, that is not entirely try.You can get 2 week ban, without chat restriction, for using some words, that in some regions where this game is played are not considered so bad as RIOT judge them.And now you have your FIRST and FINAL warning.Fun times reforming.
: Doesn't matter how good you are
League can be summarized in one simple statement "One man can't carry a game, but one man can lose you a game."
: Yes. Instead of trying to reform people, we should just place them into a single place and let them troll/flame amongst each other. So someone who said "fk you" and got dropped to 0 honor will have to play with the very worst of the community and take n example how they should behave. {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
Or maybe just start banning trolls instead of flamers?I hade an acc where i flamed like crazy, but carried hard.In the end of every game i got the most honors.Proves that people dont care if you flame if you play the game right.
Nonstopre (EUW)
: Yeah idk why but since i got to gold i have not played a single good game someone is always trolling
People have a mind set that gold is the best elo.In past that was true, but now alot of silver and bronze players can easely get to gold and this elo became shit storm.I think its the worst elo of them all.
Nonstopre (EUW)
: How can i stay calm?
When you see a game is hopeless, dont try to comunicate with trolls.Ignore them, mute them.Then practice your game mechanics and knowelege.Go farm, buy wards, provide vision, go for objectives, split push, dont fight.I even won some games like that, because the enemy team was dumb enough to let me get unstopable.But the most important thing is MUTE and move on.It's sad that trolls strife more and more, while RIOT only tell us to shut up or get banned, but we canot do anything more.
: Kinda depends on context. You start with "Oh i see you are a Bronze" which can be demeaning depending on context. As an example, if he made a statement that you disagree with and you start your comment like that, then it's a bit demeaning. You should choose your words more carefully.
My comment was first on a discusion where the author was making very agrassive statements towards junglers.I was never meant to shame him or offend.I just looked on his account and saw that he is Bronze (information that Riot provides to all).I wonder if he was diamond or plat, would my comment be still delleted?They want us to be patient towards low tier players and help them learn, but the moment i try it, i got warnning.How is that pointing someones tier is offensive if that tier represents his game and mechanics khowlege?
Rioter Comments
: That's true but still the maths behind it was bugged causing him to reach up to 2200 ad. It was the definition of broken and can't even be compared to Hail of Blades Jhin as Hail of Blades was good on Jhin because it was a rune he worked well with, Rageblade was good on him just because it was bugged. And now they're calling this nerf a "bugfix" which is quite sketchy. They're just sugarcoating the fact that they gave both Rageblade Jhin and Hail of Blades Jhin the same treatment even though the latter wasn't even 10% as strong/broken.
Just for comparesment - Jhin can't use Rageblade because its too much broken.On other hand we have Eve who come from stealth stunning you and with one E,Q combo makes 2500 dmg.Full tank Veigar with only Rabadon, can still one shot you.Pyke have 2 cc coming from stealth ...I can go on.So what is the criteria for broken?
: He is only STRONG when he is bugged. He is always fun.
Don't know why they removed the rageblade Jhin.It was the only time he build something other than crit, and to keep your 6 stack on a 4 shot champion was really a chalange.It was a nice mechanic on him, but RIOT dont like fun.
: Why can't Jhin have a keystone?
It's funny that Jhin is only fun to play when he have some bug - rageblade, HoB, Stormrazor...{{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
: Riot doesn't give a %%%% if you soft-int -troll they only care to make their game less toxic
Ironicly, they making it more toxic that way.Instead of shitt taliking in chat, people are straight soft int and troll to release there anger and frustration.
Soumaxer (EUNE)
: I have a question for all of you and i need a honest answer
Read the ToU and you will understand that RIOT dont care about players at all.Bassically, RIOT rules are: shut up.
Airbend (EUNE)
: Can someone explain me that?
Old Irelia, you can dodge her ult.Jax you can dodge his stun.Tryndamere you can dodge his slow.Ana every champion have a clear treshhold at which you're almost guaranteed to win, if there wasn't then everyone would gonaa play those champion.Autoatack champions are not the most hard to play, but you will agree that there is a big difference between a good Jax/Yi/Trynd player and a one that sucks.That means that these champions have depth to there playstyles too. Getting fed or stomped in lane (feast or famine) applys to every champion in this game.There is not a single champion in this game that will not benefit from getting fed or suffer from getting destroyed.And it doesn't matter if its support, carry, assasin or utilty etc.Again if there was a champion who was maintaining his usefulness even after getting stomped everyone whould play him. For me its all about players mentality.Some champions that have weak early game, and are supposed to carry in late game, if they get ahead very early because of bad opponent, are categorised with those labels.The whole purpose of the game is to get you stats higher, no matter if they are tank or damage vise stats.
Rioter Comments
Thoustick (EUW)
: Помогите разобраться, пожалуйста.
У меня руский плохой, так что скажу просто.Пиши билет на сапорт, здесь не кто тебе не сможет помочи. :)
: Is the ban system flawed? Are the true toxic players slipping through the cracks?
I will say this just once.I alway prefered and will prefer to play with flamers.Why you may ask?Because these people tend to be more passionate about the game.They tend to get angry easy and fast, but that because they want to succesed and win.All other show flakes, and easely ofendet people - if you are letting some random stranger word on internet to affect you and you seek justice by banning that person, go see a doctor.I rather prefer RIOT to put ALL of their effort on trolls, inters and afk, and let flamers run free..Till this day i didnt lost a game because someone flamed me in chat, but i lost ton of games because someone trolled.
: ARURF needs a fix
There is no fun in ARURF.If you want fun, you just need to get some broken champion, or all game you will see a grey screen.If you stuck with some shitt champion, just do this - go to jungle and wait for the team to surr, or enemy to hard push, and pray next game you have a good pick. In old URF we could pick champions that are broken, but atleast we hade a chance of playing the actuall game, not just watch a grey screen for 20 min.Old URF was easely fixed - implement a 10 ban system. I really dont get it.Only and idiot can defend a statement, that something random is fair.Again, i know this mode is for fun, but watching a grey screen for 20 min, because you stuck with shitiest champion in the game is not fun. P.S.:If you want to play fun MOBA modes, download DOTA, there is so much fun modes there, and even alot of PvE modes, that can really provide you with a lot of fun and relaxation. {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}}
: > [{quoted}](name=Airbend,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=EAo03wWK,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-06-30T22:35:21.097+0000) > > Well it's a basic principal.You want money yyou will keep your customers happy. :) This game is technically free to play. So stop acting like a scumbag customer :p
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.Keep telling that to yourself.
Hemșo (EUW)
: stop
Well it's a basic principal.You want money yyou will keep your customers happy. :)
: so...aatrox
Why are people saying his heal is pre mitigation?Its post mitigation, and its just a shitt version of Rhaast heal.{{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
: > Look.I will say it straignt.I don't know what type of champions you play or like, but its obvios you didn't play old Aatrox alot.Saying Aatrox autoatack based kit is toxic is not true. Actually he was one of my favourite champions and I did play him a lot. > Saying Aatrox autoatack based kit is toxic is not true.If we get that in mind, then Master YI, Jax, Xin, Tryndamery, Olaf, Udyr and every ranged autoatack champion in this game is toxic. Well trynd and jax are getting reworks in the future as well. But the thing that separates them and aatrox is his W... aatrox got insane sustain and damage from his W which allowed him to bypass a lot of his weak points and made him oppressive when ahead. Not only that but the interaction with rageblade and attack speed trivialised what is meant to be the counter play to the ability in the fact that it’s a 3 hit attack. > The fact that we have a 4-5 melle autoatack champions left in this game is already a scarry thing.Aatrox hade clear weaknesses, and clear advantages.I can think about alot more cancer kit champions in this game that need rework or remowe, but not Aatrox.Only reason Aatrox got pick or ban champions is because of all the meta changes and changes to certain items.If champion sudenly become viable, without any direct buffs or changes to him, shows that the problem is not his kit, especially if before this champion was considered trash. Aatrox was impossible to balance... the smallest buff or nerf sent him flying into either direction... a champion who can’t be balanced has no place in this game. And if there are other champions you think are more toxic chances are they are on the list to be reworked as well, or it’s just a balance issue. When a champion is toxic they are usually just op, balance changes can stop this... when there is a champion who can’t be balanced that makes him toxic and that means he needs a rework. > In the end you will zone us out, learn that this Aatrox is garbage after playing 20 games max, and leave him in even worse state then he was before, leaving us, old Aatrox mains, with even worse situation than we started of.LoL logic, but like someone in this board said, we just got RIOT-ed. Nah, I like new aatrox... and so I will keep playing him... and I also loved old Aatrox... thing about being an aatrox player is that your usually playing a champion people think is garbage, you should know this by now... do you really think I’m going to stop playing aatrox because you think he is garbage, hell no. And you act like this is unique to aatrox... every champion who has been reworked has had mains who have lost their champion... that’s just the nature of reworks and a necessary evil... I used to main old ad sion so I know what it’s like... I moved on and found different champions to play (ironically one of those champions was aatrox), just freaking out over something that can’t be changed just isn’t going to help, either move onto a different champion or move on from league.
Zoe, Yasuo, Kalista, Irelia and much more champions that have hard to balance toxic kit.Kai'sa, for f sake, they nerfed rage blade because of her.Yeah everything shows that RIOT "know" waht they are doing.Reworking old champions, don't help, most of them keep beeing toxic, and hard to balance.Releasing new champions that also have toxic kits.Because of one simple logic - if a champions number are too high he is broken, if not he is garbage.They balance the game with this logic.And if that logic applys, they rework or remove the kit, just to create a new vacuum.This game have a lot of problems, but Aatrox kit wans't one of them.You coudve counter him in pick or in playstyle easely, if you knew how to play.RIOT keeps catering to people like you, who thinks that the problem is "if i can't beat him, the champion is toxic".They cant balance one class of Marksmans, almost 4 years, that is laugable. And i have hard time believing you that you played Aatrox, just from the fact that you are talking nonsence about him.There was 2 options for him - damage or sustain.You pick one over other.If you pick damage you blow up faster than adc, if you pick sustain you coudve duel and dive.But never you hade the options on having both at the same time.
: > Well, first, and i dont have nothing personal against you, its hard to take a silver player perspective, to counter playing. Maybe have a look at the LCK then if your having a hard time believing me... there is a reason he is currently pick or ban and every game he has been in has seen him carry. If Korean pros are having a hard time playing against a champion then there is truth in what I’m saying. > This all "his desight was toxic" is starting to piss me off, because people start to use it to on every champion lately.IF YOU CAN'T PLAY AGAIST SOMETHING, THAT DOESNT MAKE IT'S TOXIC DESIGNT, IT MEANS YOU NEED TO LEARN. It’s not a matter of needing to learn... aatrox had a feast or famine kit which was impossible to balance... that’s not opinion it’s fact. He has gone from op to a joke to op again with the smallest of changes... riot can’t balance him, that’s why they needed to rework him, that’s why he has a toxic kit... its not about counter play it’s about what’s actually in the kit and if suddenly pros think he is the best top laner in the game then that shows the weight behind it. > Sion, Urgot and Poppy kept some parts of their playstyle and identety, there is no comperesant at all in this case. Sion kept his health stacking and his shield mechanic... besides that he got changed from a burst mage/ adc to a tank. Urgot kept his aoe fear and that was it... he also went from a long range poke champion with engage to a close range brawler. Poppy kept her E and that was it... she also went from an assasin to a tank. Aatrox is still a diver, and he still reatains his sustain and revive, as well as a similar steroid ult (swapping out attack speed for ad as that’s more efficient for a caster)... he is closer to what he was than any of these guys, still the same job and with similar tools... he just swapped his auto attacks for abilities. > You played 2 games, lets see if you get annoyed after 50. Will let you know but I’m enjoying this so far. > His Q is the same as Riven.SAME, only differnces is slower cast, skilshot hitboxes, no animation cancel, which all makes it worse. So it’s a dash with small amounts of damage with a knock up on the final hit... no it isn’t. His Q has three parts... that’s the only similarity. It’s usage, damage profile, and feel are all completely different. And his Q is only worse at the moment because it takes skill, simple as that. If a 3 part q is enough to say he is the same as riven why don’t you complain about yasuo being a riven clone as well, he has a 3 hit passive with a knock up on the third so he must have the exact same Q as riven > And again.In Silver maybe you can cast his all W.In higher ranks, EVERYONE will be able to dodge it, if they have atleast half a brain.You just need to wals to the sides, because ALL Aatrox hitboxes(even his Q) are primarally straight forward. And that’s where you take advantage of it... yes you can dodge by walking to the side but as your walking aatrox puts his Q in front of you... now you’ve got to try and get through his Q or get punished. In the jungle you can’t walk to the sides due to the short corridor. Your allies also now know exactly where an opponent will be allowing for easy skill shots. It’s something you pick up from playing sion, another champion who people thought would be useless due to his Q being easy to dodge, yet he appeared in the meta several times... part of dodging is mind games and with abilities such as this one you get to command the mind games. > About E, its a joke. Maybe this is where your going wrong with new aatrox... you complain and say it frustrates you but your undervaluing the one skill that holds the kit together. > About his ult., watch Swain ult and his and tell me you dont see the same animation.Riven similarity are here too.Range,AD, and new ablity(RIven windslash, Aatrox revive).IDENTICALL as designt. He gets bigger and grows wings... only similarity. And he doesn’t get a new ability, nor range... just a passive. And that’s point... if you have such an issue with aatrox ult being similar to riven’s how come I don’t see you complaining about swain ult... steroid first cast and allows access to a new ability (riven windslash, Swain demonflare)... obviously riot must have been lazy with swain as well. So much of your arguments are hypocritical... you blame aatrox for things other champions are guilty of, and what’s more you judge how strong aatrox is after having no idea how to play him... a mistake this community makes every single time a champion is released or reworked. > The problem is that this Aatrox is categorized like a DIVER.So yes old one sucked at this role, but at least he could duel, new one will suck even more. Dueling isn’t the job of a diver, that’s a skirmisher. And new one can duel you just actually have to use skill, which frankly is a new concept when it comes to aatrox. > No RIOT didnt to the best they could do.And that is keep getting obvios every day.We wanted rework, but not every change is good change.I never was vocal about changes in this game, and always tryed to adapt and move on, but this, this is just a pure mockery from RIOT. For this rework to do its job it had to remove what makes aatrox who he is... that will always result in people like you coming on here complaining while barely understanding the rework in general. Riot couldn’t keep people like you happy and actually create a balanced champion, so riot choose the one best for the game in general. Simple as that, if you don’t like it your happy to join the rest of the people crying about reworks to their mains, we will just zone you out.
Look.I will say it straignt.I don't know what type of champions you play or like, but its obvios you didn't play old Aatrox alot.Saying Aatrox autoatack based kit is toxic is not true.If we get that in mind, then Master YI, Jax, Xin, Tryndamery, Olaf, Udyr and every ranged autoatack champion in this game is toxic.People are complaining alot about them, being braindead,not hard, no counterplay champions, but that doens't mean it's true.The fact that we have a 4-5 melle autoatack champions left in this game is already a scarry thing.Aatrox hade clear weaknesses, and clear advantages.I can think about alot more cancer kit champions in this game that need rework or remowe, but not Aatrox.Only reason Aatrox got pick or ban champions is because of all the meta changes and changes to certain items.If champion sudenly become viable, without any direct buffs or changes to him, shows that the problem is not his kit, especially if before this champion was considered trash. I know that people like you will zone out us, the ones that wanted something better for Aatrox.In the end you will zone us out, learn that this Aatrox is garbage after playing 20 games max, and leave him in even worse state then he was before, leaving us, old Aatrox mains, with even worse situation than we started of.LoL logic, but like someone in this board said, we just got RIOT-ed.
: > Say that to chalanger Aatrox main in Korea.Aatrox hade problems mainly with his E.As autoatacker, the fact he coudn't go 1 vs 3 and win(and thats is depetable)was part of his counterplay(CC, kite,like every autoatacker).Aatrox hade some problems, and some good sides, like every other champion in this game. He had a toxic design simple as that. Extremely feast or famine, his counter play became lesserned with items, burst healing on no cooldown. More importantly he was impossible to balance, either being a joke or horrendously overpowered. And remember kiting becomes an issue when your in the top lane, your playing a melee champion your not gonna effectively kite anything. > The biggest problem, the community have with this rework is the drastic change to his playstyle and personalyte.Can you tell me other champion rework that change the playstyle so drastic. Sion, urgot, poppy... when what makes a champion who they are also is the main cause of their issues then they need to loose their core identity simple as that. > Old desight was much better, new one has a simularity to Tryndamere(draging his sword behinf him). He really doesn’t... aatrox doesn’t drag his sword at all > Just try to play few games without geeting a headache of constant yelling. Already done that... I enjoy him > His Q is Riven Q, but slower, and harder to hit.Its like a big risk ablity, (because you can't move during cating time, or even cancel animation) with a reward only on 3 hit. His Q is nothing like riven Q... the only similarity is that it can be cast 3 times but everyone is so quick to forget riven isn’t even the only champion with this anyway, yasuo has this as well. And you can move during the cast time with the E... hence why it’s there. > I can't see a scenario where someone can't escape his W.With all the dashes, blinks, jumps and etc. Aimed correctly immobile champions do struggle to get out... on top of that you use your Q to knock them up hence keep them in the zone. I’ve had no issues getting the full cast off Even if you don’t it’s about zone control... you force an enemy out of a particular area and to dodge you need to go towards aatrox or to the side not forward making chases much easier. > His E is a joke, just a pure joke. His E is a glue ability. It’s what makes the rest of his kit work. You use it to dodge or to reposition your Q... with a bit of practice it can be very good. > Ultimate, aside that his animation is pure Swain ult, is again ripoff from Riven ults. It’s nothing like riven ult... it’s more similar to Old Aatrox ult, just instead of attack speed as that’s useless on you now you get ad for the same effect. Hell given the big part of the riven ult is the recast the new aatrox ult is closer to zilean ult than riven ult. > Taking my expirience with new Aatrox, i can surely tale you, tha if old one blow off in a second when he was in team fights, this one will die even faster, just to revieve and die again. And in my experience that’s not the case... you just can’t jump in mindlessly anymore. > This rework represent every problem RIOT have right now - they are lazy, make changes no one asks for, and don't get into consederation their player base opinion. > And before you say anything, i played alot of Aatrox, on this and other accounts, mainly in normal games.And i played him on PBE. People where asking for an aatrox rework, they’ve been asking for years now. And before you say it even aatrox mains where asking for it. And his issues where in his W, where in his auto attack nature... he was toxic and these aspects needed to be removed in favour for a healthier and more skilful option. This was a loose loose situation but riot did the best they could.
Well, first, and i dont have nothing personal against you, its hard to take a silver player perspective, to counter playing.Top have a lot of kiting champions - Teemo, Quinn, Urgot, Vladimir, Jayce, Kennen, GankPlank - and those are that can kite you with range autoatacks, dont even let me start on Yasuo, Irelia, Akali, Riven, and other mobile top laners. This all "his desight was toxic" is starting to piss me off, because people start to use it to on every champion lately.IF YOU CAN'T PLAY AGAIST SOMETHING, THAT DOESNT MAKE IT'S TOXIC DESIGNT, IT MEANS YOU NEED TO LEARN. Sion, Urgot and Poppy kept some parts of their playstyle and identety, there is no comperesant at all in this case. You played 2 games, lets see if you get annoyed after 50. His Q is the same as Riven.SAME, only differnces is slower cast, skilshot hitboxes, no animation cancel, which all makes it worse. And again.In Silver maybe you can cast his all W.In higher ranks, EVERYONE will be able to dodge it, if they have atleast half a brain.You just need to wals to the sides, because ALL Aatrox hitboxes(even his Q) are primarally straight forward. About E, its a joke. About his ult., watch Swain ult and his and tell me you dont see the same animation.Riven similarity are here too.Range,AD, and new ablity(RIven windslash, Aatrox revive).IDENTICALL as designt. The problem is that this Aatrox is categorized like a DIVER.So yes old one sucked at this role, but at least he could duel, new one will suck even more. No RIOT didnt to the best they could do.And that is keep getting obvios every day.We wanted rework, but not every change is good change.I never was vocal about changes in this game, and always tryed to adapt and move on, but this, this is just a pure mockery from RIOT.
: What made aatrox who he was also made aatrox in need of a rework... the aatrox we knew couldn’t healthily exist in league. Therefore any successful rework also had to remove aatrox completely resulting in this... for a loose loose situation riot did a good job.
Say that to chalanger Aatrox main in Korea.Aatrox hade problems mainly with his E.As autoatacker, the fact he coudn't go 1 vs 3 and win(and thats is depetable)was part of his counterplay(CC, kite,like every autoatacker).Aatrox hade some problems, and some good sides, like every other champion in this game. The biggest problem, the community have with this rework is the drastic change to his playstyle and personalyte.Can you tell me other champion rework that change the playstyle so drastic. And my personal opinion is that this rework is just plane bad.Old desight was much better, new one has a simularity to Tryndamere(draging his sword behinf him).Voice over,not even gonna talk about that.Just try to play few games without geeting a headache of constant yelling. His Q is Riven Q, but slower, and harder to hit.Its like a big risk ablity, (because you can't move during cating time, or even cancel animation) with a reward only on 3 hit. I can't see a scenario where someone can't escape his W.With all the dashes, blinks, jumps and etc. His E is a joke, just a pure joke. Ultimate, aside that his animation is pure Swain ult, is again ripoff from Riven ults. Taking my expirience with new Aatrox, i can surely tale you, tha if old one blow off in a second when he was in team fights, this one will die even faster, just to revieve and die again. This rework represent every problem RIOT have right now - they are lazy, make changes no one asks for, and don't get into consederation their player base opinion. And before you say anything, i played alot of Aatrox, on this and other accounts, mainly in normal games.And i played him on PBE.
Yraco (EUW)
: Old eve, god she was fun even if simple. I loved kiting around with my q when you didn't have to stand still to it every 3 times, and the w allowing her to run anywhere then go invisible again. Her ult could've used a change but even that was nice to have some sustain.
Did you ever tryed AD Eve?OMG, that was freaking fun.Raveonos,Warrior,Triforce,Rageblade,Wtis.I got myself from Silver 5 to Gold 2 spaming her last season.It was fun, really fun.And then they reworked her into a somekind version of old Ahri.Removed her AD scaling,and just made her so generic. Same goes to Fiora.She was my first champion, and i loved her.Moving from DOTA to LoL, i hade a favorite champion in DOTA called Jugernaut.Now you can understand why i fell in love with Fiora.Now she is just...number stats.If she have numbers she is good, if not she is trash.And really not fun to play. Kindred, Xin, Shyvana, i lost so many champions to RIOT reworks.And now Aatrox.I can bet my ass that this rework is gonna be shit.{{sticker:sg-ahri-3}}
Amoustafa (EUW)
: Aatrox mains right now
Goodbye Aatrox, old friend.Say hello to old Fiora and Evelynn, when you see them.{{sticker:sg-janna}}
: League is not designed to cater one-tricks. And most reasonable one tricks have backups.
I know its that way.But it sucks when your best champ is banned by your team on purpose, and you are stuck with some second pick you are not so sure you will play the best way.And why League need to cater to trolls who ban on purpose?
Leyruh (EUW)
: Having your account locked is kinda weird. When you're banned, I don't think it appears that way... Perhaps you should send a ticket to Riot describing your problem, though you would still be banned, I assume. Having your teammates decide what's good and what isn't is a yikers. Honestly, a champion considered "trash" can be good in the right hands, and it applies to {{champion:555}} . ( and to every other champion ) You get tilted over the ban and the comments of your teammates. I'll be lying if I said that I wouldn't be at least a bit frustrated. But to run it down top since it's your toplaner that banned your champ? Yep, definitly unwise and way, waaaaay worse than banning your selected champion. And in the end, not worth it at all. I don't believe that having your champion banned by a teammate "ruins your experience". It's annoying, sure. You have to accomodate and pick another one. But does it even equal ruining, and by ruining, I mean litteraly RUIN a game for 9 people? Hell nah. {{sticker:sg-ahri-3}} If someone does you wrong, be the better person : don't retaliate. Be nice. Say that you don't agree with them. If they flame, you know what to do : report them. And don't forget to mute them in game so you won't get tilted. {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}}
> I don't believe that having your champion banned by a teammate "ruins your experience Say that to peole who are one tricks.{{sticker:poppy-wink}}
SerSerych (EUW)
: Kindred
Just revert Kindred back to his old kit(you already gave her heal back, just bring back the whole old kit).He was pretty good jungler, before they nerfed her to the ground and then reworked her.
ChainedUp (EUW)
: I never broke the rules honnestly. I never flamed some1 and i wasn't toxic.
Dude, if you still didn't get it i will say t clear - YOU TYPE IN GAME(ANYTHING) ITS CONSIDER FLAME.{{sticker:poppy-wink}}
ChainedUp (EUW)
: I didn't say anything toxic/rude.
Yeah dude.You broke the rules.Next time if someone trolls you or ruinin your games, or provoke you , just say thank you, mute them and after game honour them.Log out go to your smurf, and start game.Mute all from start, afk farm, time to time go to lanes to push some waves and deal some dmg to towers, then go back to afk farming.You will never get banned, but you will get your frustration by ruinning other peoples games, but not breaking rules.{{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
Airbend (EUNE)
: And im trying to say its really HARD for small indie company like RIOT to implement voice chat and monitor it.
Please, show me where i said its easy?{{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
ChainedUp (EUW)
: i got permabanned cuz i defended myself against these toxic people. I'm having it hard mentally irl and i'm going trough a stressful period. I defended myself in a not toxic/flame way but i still got permabanned. Asking to report people or asking them to stop being so toxic got me banned. Amazing...
HAHAHAHAHAHA.Prepare for "it's your fault", "you have a choice not to flame back", etc. replys.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
And im trying to say its really HARD for small indie company like RIOT to implement voice chat and monitor it.
: Perma bans are issued after tons of repeated offenses. He didn't get banned ONLY because of this, but this was the last straw. > i dont even wanna think about your future, if you ever go to army, or start to go to work every day.It's not gonna be fun expirience if you are so soft and sensetive. Also don't get it why you'd wanna turn this on me. I'm a working guy in my late 20s, I couldn't give 2 shits about OP's offenses. You started "laughing" at my number, so I gave you my thought process behind it. To be fair, I couldn't give a damn about the perma banned accs either, not my problem. Just here to clear some things.
Sorry if i ofended you it's wasnt mu intend.I was lauginh at number because it don't reflect the reallity. I didn't turn nothing(sorry again if it look like this), im just saying that in army and on work over sensetive people are often not so loved.For army it's clear(if you are over sensetive, you wull have a really, really,reallly bad time), but for work your bosses often are gonna be jerks, and if someone is easely ofended then it's gonna be hard for them.
: First : op.gg shows the number of active ranked players. There are a bunch of low levels and normal/aram players who don't even show up. Second : We're not talking about toxicity. We're talking about PERMANENTLY BANNED account numbers. - this number probably resets on a seasonal basis, however I'm not sure about that one. Banning 1000 accounts, permanently, is quite the number. Keep in mind, that these are EXTREME cases. Toxicity on the other hand, is in a different ball park. I don't deny that it's a pretty big issue, however it's origins are human flaws, and not the game itself. Every kind of competitive game, will result in winners and losers, and as we saw throughout history, some people just aren't humble in defeat. The 0.06% number wasn't referring to toxic people. Altho I'm pretty sure even the chat banned and 14 banned people's numbers are under 1% (again, not sure, just an opinion).
Don't say "human flaws", its a durty word in here. :D Most people here will tell you that they don' need to mute someone, even if that person is provoked, because he hade a choice not to flame back.The term "human flaw" dont exist here. About the discusion, if OP was really banned for this chat log, then the system is straigt clown fiesta and going down to hill.To people who got offended by those words and reported the OP, i dont even wanna think about your future, if you ever go to army, or start to go to work every day.It's not gonna be fun expirience if you are so soft and sensetive.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Now im just thinking you are trolling.I literally said its HARD (i never said its easy.look the post above), and you keep proving my point, that RIOT wont do it because of that.RIOT is doing the easy thing - abysing their ban system to punish peole who are easy to find and punish, who are chat flamers.
: Have you ever seen a permanent ban report card? It states on in. Don't know what impression you had about the LOL community, you're obviously exaggerating, if you think it's much more.
Well in my expirience, my friends expierence, watching streamers, i can say for sure that RIOT numbers mean shit, because flame starts in champ select.Just calculate it. Taking numbers from OP.gg(because RIOT refuse to post numbers), in EUNE have almost 1.3 milion active players.If 0.06% of them are toxic JUST FOR EUNE, it means that only 780 players out of 1.3 milions are toxic.Does that number seem real to you?Take in mind that if you only aplly 0.06% to EUNE, RIOT claims that its for all regions.That mean that in EUNE there is even less than 780 toxic people.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
I gave you your evidence.You decidet to start balimg other companys. On RIOT dev posts they admited its hareder to find trolls , compared to flamers. Second your own words about saying that is IMPOSIBLE to find and punish flamers in voice chat are just absurd. It' pretty HARD and need alot of resources, but surerly not imposible, which comes back to my post about RIOT taking the easy way and beinjg lazy.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Wow.Those are very serious accusation towards VALVE.Do you have proff for your statement?
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