Mffn (EUW)
: Banned because of Sett
Wow, what a joke. So many people are not punished for obvious trolling and inting (even when I send a ticket with the screens where they claim to feed for fun) and then you have a bug in one game and can't do sh about it and you got banned after 1 game. What the hell, Riot? XD
Rioter Comments
: Deleted league today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i didnt even say bad word when the guy said ( %%%% your mum! ) i was patient and the only thing i did is said report yoU! and i got ban ! Game 1 In-Game worldofmelodi: WP worldofmelodi: first time playing vayne worldofmelodi: i do worldofmelodi: gj top worldofmelodi: gp worldofmelodi: omg worldofmelodi: i am noob? worldofmelodi: u used ult worldofmelodi: wjem i was too far worldofmelodi: and u didnt even say u will use it worldofmelodi: reprot u for flame worldofmelodi: enjoy ban worldofmelodi: i copuy messages worldofmelodi: my accaunt with 250 level was banned worldofmelodi: guys worldofmelodi: this support ut worldofmelodi: ult worldofmelodi: when i am too far worldofmelodi: i told about malph worldofmelodi: and he flame me worldofmelodi: one more word from w or malph and bye worldofmelodi: i cant worldofmelodi: i have 0 support worldofmelodi: ok and u renjoy ban accaunt worldofmelodi: with this words worldofmelodi: malph reported worldofmelodi: for flame worldofmelodi: wow gj@! worldofmelodi: wow worldofmelodi: like u! worldofmelodi: why u go alone? worldofmelodi: vs 5 worldofmelodi: |omg this stun worldofmelodi: perma stun from jungler worldofmelodi: nice warwick when we atakc u stay back worldofmelodi: when we died u go atack worldofmelodi: we cant win with no teamfight worldofmelodi: its gg worldofmelodi: its gg no help from warwick worldofmelodi: he is just near worldofmelodi: sorry i cant play it anymore worldofmelodi: ok i will stop worldofmelodi: bye worldofmelodi: play alone worldofmelodi: i was flaming? worldofmelodi: xd worldofmelodi: funny worldofmelodi: guys hope you won cos asll team are flamers worldofmelodi: flamers never ddeserve win Game 2 In-Game worldofmelodi: dont farm worldofmelodi: ok sorry take it worldofmelodi: afk? worldofmelodi: omg xd worldofmelodi: yummi didnt even heal worldofmelodi: nice heal yummi worldofmelodi: guys i go other lane worldofmelodi: yummi enjoy solo\ worldofmelodi: nautilus wanna play next game together? worldofmelodi: omg worldofmelodi: meag stun worldofmelodi: i am 2/3 worldofmelodi: so worldofmelodi: ncie steal from Zac worldofmelodi: zac steal more my kilsl please worldofmelodi: riven worldofmelodi: u saw that?) worldofmelodi: i need to play alone or with you worldofmelodi: go away worldofmelodi: from me worldofmelodi: ui too worldofmelodi: with yummi worldofmelodi: gj worldofmelodi: it was last time i tried to help team worldofmelodi: i go farm worldofmelodi: i am not mad worldofmelodi: i am ok worldofmelodi: dont come yummiu worldofmelodi: i dont want your help worldofmelodi: nautilus ur so good worldofmelodi: u are reported for flame enjoy
because Riot don't want you to use chat. It's only for baiting. No matter what you will write with your team you will still be punished sooner or later. :D
: I understand the mentality. Personally, I prefer to play supportive mids like Zilean, Orianna, Kayle etc. Getting 20 kills doesn't matter to me, winning does.
problem is when your team is losing and your support do nothing because there is no one to support #beenthere
: Well the first example game is unfortunate. The second game though your teamate might be kind of right. If you see that someone is doing well and carrying the game. Maybe the best move would be to ask him what kind of support he needs to keep doing what he is doing? Maybe you should play around people when they are doing well and not tilt them? But Ego is a true thing not only in games but in real life too. People have ruined countries, cost lives and lost companies straight out of pure dumb Ego
Exactly. :D When I see someone doing a good job, is ultrafed, then even if I'm not playing support, I'm doing everything to help him. I go after him and ward jungle if he is pushing lane etc. If he goes solo all the time then FOLLOW HIM. :D This is that simple.
Wolity (EUW)
: " i want to carry the game " mentality can lose you a lot of games
Hey, main support here. This is how practically every game I play looks like. Well maybe 1/10 are normal but the rest is exactly like you say: one lane is losing, and this guy is so tilted that he doesn't want to play anymore. I was thinking like you, that it's all about ego etc. but then I got autofilled toplane and was firstpick (no one wanted to swap champs) so I picked Nasus (I don't have many toplaners on EUW account). I was playing against Morde and I totally had NO idea how to play against him. This dude was good, had 7th mastery on him, was crushing me totally and I couldn't stack (he was freezing the lane and everytime I wanted to hit with Q I was losing 50% of my life...). What my team did? They were laughing at my poor farm and pinging me. I knew I did bad but I still wanted to try and win the game. I had 0 ganks on lane, even when I was waiting under my tower and Morde was diving me to kill. My team woke up when he took second tower. Of course they started to flame me. Botlane was fed, mid was fed but no one suggested to swap or help me until then. I had no stacks, no money, no items, no level. Of course I was useless - like they said - but they decided to ignore one lane and focus on killing "easy kills". Then no one could beat Morde, he had lots of farm, few kills from me (like maybe 3, mostly from diving) and everyone blamed me for that. And we lost. Even if 3 teammates were fed and won their lanes. So don't be surprised if someone after such games have so bad mindset and want to give up. I am not thinking that it's a good thing but I understand their point of view. If one lane is doing very bad then ignoring it won't make this lane to dissapear. And the worst you can do is flame and blame this person. When I play support and see my mid or top struggling with very annoying pushing enemy, I'm roaming sometimes there and poke that guy or at least ward the jungle. Not only to really DO something, but so my teammate think that others CARE what is happening there. This problem is very common with Trynda on low elo. People pretend that top doesn't exist and wake up when inhi is down. Aaaand blaming starts. :D I do not think that those people really want to carry. They just want to win and they don't trust random people to do it. Also remember that this game is FOR FUN. If for 20 minutes this guy has no fun at all then of course he is going to have negative attitude. That's why be smart and don't tilt him more. I really, REALLY hate people who starts to blame and then start to troll just to point out that no one else can carry the game and I agree that it's the most stupid thing in LoL (but happens so often) but sadly, Riot see only chat. I start to think that they stopped to watch game's records. If people were really reported for grieving and inting they would think twice before doing it again.
: Do you ever get good games in solo queue?
welcome to the league of legends place where its always either your team that has troll/afk or enemy
: His midgame scaling kinda needs to be toned down a little bit. But to be honnest his main issue is that you don't have a %%%%ing clue what he does without mastering him yourself. He has so many random abilities it's a nightmare to trade against him because you don't known what he's going to shoot add you. So far I known red he heals himsef and with purple he has cc like Ashe, with green he has long range like Caitlyn, blue is AOE damage and white is basicly Sivir. His ult is basicly {{champion:81}} ult with a shorter range. Overal I don't like the idea of having a champion in the game that you don't like to play yourself but you are forced to learn him just so you can play the game. Ones you known what he does he's relative easy to handle but why the %%%% do I need to play games with him just so I can play my champions against him. Their is litterly not a single other champion in the game that require you todo this. The closest thing we beside him is maybe some tricksters likeLeblanc, Shaco or Zed.
Also he uses a very little mana, at least its first adc that I could farm and poke enemy and still have full mana all the time :P
: nerf aphelios pls
Let me introduce you to League's shop :D First - release a champion that is really OP so even if your enemies already know the skills it's still hard to lose with it. Next - wait for people to buy it. Next - nerf the hell out of him so everyone will be mad because he will slowly become useless. Next - buff it a little bit so people think you can still play it. Next - release another champion so people will forget about it and buy another champ.
its më (EUW)
: All champs unlocked in practise tool
No because Riot wants us to spend money on new champs so we can play them as fast as possible. ;)
: It includes the border which is 600 RP if I remember correctly. So it's probably 250 x 2 for the Icons + 600 for the Border = 1100.
Still it's a bit sad :D You spent 3000+ RP on skins and didn't get icon. Also, I was talking about this "promotion" from 1100RP to 1101RP. xD Whole 37%
Rioter Comments
: This is why quit league
That's why I dont play much rankeds anymore. Only ARAM and events at most. Sometimes normals. I really enjoyed playing toplane few years ago but with every year my tanks were killed faster and faster and I did less and less. I don't like to play assasins but I see they are the only thing in this game that really counts.
: Greetings. This change is needed because as you've probably heard, League of Legends accounts are now "Riot accounts". Previously, login credentials were strictly seperated by Region. You could have the login name: _"example123"_ on EUW, and_ "example123"_ on EUNE with exactly the same password. And they would be seperate accounts. Since Riot is launching more games, seperating them all by EUW/EUNE/NA etc. doesn't make sense anymore. Think about games like TFT or Legends of Runeterra. --- This is why there is now only one pool of accounts globally. And two accounts cannot have the same login name. --- Try to remember if you have any smurfs or alternative accounts on ANY other servers (including) PBE. Someone is already using your login name, and it might be you yourself! I myself had to hunt down like 5 old accounts that used the same login as my main. ^^ Was quite some trouble but I found 'em all. ---- You can of course read more about this in the [official FAQ](https://support-leagueoflegends.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/360037264394). GLHF {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}}
ok nvm, I read the FAQ. This is BS. This is how u make people hate Riot even more. After 8 years you want me to change something I remember and use all the time to something new. I have no idea who uses the same username because it is pretty different and I never saw anyone using something similar. And I'm also sure that it's the only account I used it. And after so many years I think I should have a right to stay with it. I don't understand why people with the oldest accounts can't stay with their usernames. You should have think about it before. If I wont be able to log in after January, well so be it.
: Greetings. This change is needed because as you've probably heard, League of Legends accounts are now "Riot accounts". Previously, login credentials were strictly seperated by Region. You could have the login name: _"example123"_ on EUW, and_ "example123"_ on EUNE with exactly the same password. And they would be seperate accounts. Since Riot is launching more games, seperating them all by EUW/EUNE/NA etc. doesn't make sense anymore. Think about games like TFT or Legends of Runeterra. --- This is why there is now only one pool of accounts globally. And two accounts cannot have the same login name. --- Try to remember if you have any smurfs or alternative accounts on ANY other servers (including) PBE. Someone is already using your login name, and it might be you yourself! I myself had to hunt down like 5 old accounts that used the same login as my main. ^^ Was quite some trouble but I found 'em all. ---- You can of course read more about this in the [official FAQ](https://support-leagueoflegends.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/360037264394). GLHF {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}}
No i didn't use my username anywhere else. And why should it be me who has to change the username? What happens if I wont?
Rioter Comments
: If you are near gold / plat we can try playing a few games, I am never negative! EVURH!
: dunno for you but when i submit i always get pop up message in client. You have to give them strong statements
Hmm how can you call a statement of, for example, Blitzcrank who admitted few times on the chat that he is trolling and he doesn't care about the game? Flashing without a reason, afking, intentionally feeding etc. Well for Riot it was not a good enough reason to ban him. So I don't know what a "good reason" is anymore.
in10city (EUNE)
: Hello guys
Well few weeks ago there was a guy here who claimed that he got ban for picking an off meta champion on a role and he was really bad with it. I think it was Kalista on support. So I'm not sure how it will be with your Soraka. As for someone who plays her a lot - I don't see her on the jungle. Sure her passive can be good on ganks and ultimate can help a lot but her dmg is not as good as most of the junglers and while I had fun with ad Soraka - she still, in my opinion, is much better with ap.
: Double lp loss for afk/quit
I don't know why it's still not a thing yet...
in10city (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Alchemiczka,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=AuEXsnFd,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-02-16T12:53:35.539+0000) > > The only think that Annie really needs is either better range or mobility. I like playing her but with all that new champs she is too damn slow... Years ago I could stun someone when needed, now I need to wait for them to come close but it's still 50% chance that I will get it right (because of shields, walls, ultimates, inivisibility etc.). Also she needs to come very close to hit with her skill which is so hard looking at the range of other midlaners. c_c I still think that anyone of mages cannot kill annie 1v1 in close gap
Well it depends on their range. If I have flash and ignite it's practically easy to kill enemy mage but without flash I'm often helpless. When I want to get closer - their skills are poking me hard. Ahri, Syndra, Brand, Kayle, Azir, Vel'koz... lots of them have much better range to poke me to death while I need to wait for flash.
Torkl (EUW)
: EUW is probably worse :P 7/10 games its a must mute on atleast 3 ppl
I play on EUW too and I receive lots of instant feedback for reports. On EUNE I got only a few in last whole year....
RayleighTT (EUNE)
: About what's not okey in league of legends..
The only think that Annie really needs is either better range or mobility. I like playing her but with all that new champs she is too damn slow... Years ago I could stun someone when needed, now I need to wait for them to come close but it's still 50% chance that I will get it right (because of shields, walls, ultimates, inivisibility etc.). Also she needs to come very close to hit with her skill which is so hard looking at the range of other midlaners. c_c
Rioter Comments
: Submit a ticket to riot support next time with screenshot. it helps :)
No, it wont help. I am submitting such things and all I receive back is "ohhh boo we are so sorry but you can just report them after the game there is no need to send us ticket" EVERY. TIME. And right now I had a game with 3 people who were flaming each other (and me) and ignoring whole game, flame and writing was more important than playing while my top 0/7/0 went afk. And I can bet for 100$ that no one of them will got ban.
Mártir (EUW)
: Im not given Support, despite putting it as first role... What has the world come to? XD
Well then I just had a guy who was autofilled support and he trolled our whole game because he didn't like it. And I'm 100% sure that Riot will do nothing about it. Again.
lionne80 (EUW)
: just stop to ranked play aram you see things gonna be better
oooh believe me, I play aram for years and people can be as toxic as on ranked, or even worse. Every time me or my friend want to try something different and pick champ we can't play we are flamed so hard for our score that I need to take a break from this game for a while too...
: I assume the match you are talking about in your post is this match here: https://matchhistory.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/2117579338/202859568?tab=overview I have a question for you. Did you see what happened in the bot lane? Or did you do like most ignorant players do and just look at the score and blame the person with the most deaths on the team? I can see from your match history that you play bot lane quite a bit, as both support and adc, so you should know better than to judge purely on a person's k/d/a. I've played matches where I've ended up dieing a bunch of times due to my lane partner's mistakes, and had matches where my lane partner died because of my mistakes. Anyway, I've reviewed that match with the Jhin and although he did put himself in bad positions a lot allowing Pyke to hook him in, Nami didn't really do too much to help him. The first 3 of Jhin's deaths Nami completely missed her bubble every time. The third death was especially sad to watch because if Nami had hit her bubble they would have killed Kaisa before she killed Jhin and then Pyke would have died too, completely turning the lane around and giving Jhin a huge advantage over Kaisa. But the bubble was missed and Jhin died first. I'd also like to point out that Jhin never pushed the waves. Every time he got back to lane the lane was already pushing away from him. After that, Jhin's 4th death and Nami's first death happened exactly the same way. They were alone in lane and underestimated Pyke's range and misplayed their flash to escape. Jhin's 5th death was again Nami missing her bubble on Pyke who jumped in 1v2. If Nami hit that bubble Pyke would have died. I stopped watching after that, but you get the point. Aside from 1 death when Jhin was in the lane alone, every single of his deaths in lane could have been prevented by Nami hitting her bubble. To be honest both Jhin and Nami played badly, but neither of them were trolling and despite falling behind they kept playing. "our support was good"....Bullshit. If he was good he would have hit those bubbles and turned the lane around. Please don't talk shit about people when you know nothing about what happened in their lane. Do I sound angry? I am, because I'm sick of ignorant fools like you who claim their teammates trolled them when they haven't even bothered to look to see what happened.
Well I saw this game and I looked at botlane. He was so cocky and sure of himself. Nami pinged him to stop pushing or something and he didn't. He kept feeding and he was laughing about it. So whatever u created in your mind is simply wrong.
: New lvl of reporting trolls/inters/griefers
We don't need new reporting system, we need people on support who actually cares. And game that cares about it. On EUW I got a lot of feedback for my reports. I really saw that it makes sense to report someone after game. On EUNE I didn't get any feedback for months. And there were much worse and obvious examples than the ones I reported on EUW... Including wishing death etc. I even wrote to support with some reports but it did nothing. They just don't care about it I guess. They ban some of us from time to time for being tilted on trolls or really toxic people just to show that they are doing something but to punish actually the ones who deserve it? Nah, better just ignore it.
11wildy (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Alchemiczka,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=BBifKPkt,comment-id=00050001,timestamp=2019-01-27T19:51:59.565+0000) > > "same is on the other side" > > sure it is, but it's not about losing game or something, it's about atmosphere. Personally I'm exhausted with all that double stress because people flame and blame you without a reason. > And I'm exhausted in trying hard to win while my team just don't care. Even if I'm winning such game I'm so exhausted that I want to take a long brake from LoL. Which Im doing right now. Ugh, I feel exactly the same right now. I just get shit on every game, while I reached gold 5 in all 3 queues last season without much issue. It makes no sense, why is matchmaking so terrible now?
I had very good games in placements... Good stats and everything. Got lots of honors from strangers and sometimes more dmg than my adcs. And for what? I started from Silver IV and after 8 won games I'm in Silver II. This is what Riot call "fast climbing in placements"???
Lari (EUNE)
: You play a game to get better to get better game quality but in League you can not get that i reached plat for a reason last season. Why am i being placed in gold just because i am being trolled 23/7 makes no sense
As someone who was in Diamond on first acc, I find it less and less motivating to climb because toxic and troll people are everywhere. Maybe it was less stresfull in D 5 but Plat was all the same as Gold and Silver. Maybe even worse because people were trying so hard to climb that frustration was on a very high level. I just want to have gold and just turn soloQ off, nothing else. Free skin and all. But I was throwed to Silver IV after game where I won as support: 2/0/17. I was in Gold IV. I won 3 another games with a great stats and the climb was not as amazing as they claimed it do be. All I know is I dont f* deserve Silver. I know I'm good. Every time I play with random ADC is always the same. People on this level can't play ADC. They have no idea how to position, they can't farm, they can't think. They are so easly tilted that they start to troll after one failed action. It's really damn stresfull to support them...
: True, and I lost 6 year of experience and 3,200+ hours of gameplay because I got mad at people who intentionally lost my games and time(soft inting/trolling etc.) I messaged Riot, told them what happened and they didn't give a single %%%% about the situation
yeah because the mistakes of others doesn't give excuse to blah blah blah... I want to know how clean is language of Riot workers in real life, if they seriously don't say anything at least slightly toxic to other people...
: Play a game, someone flames, play another game, someone flames than ints, play another game, someone is afk, play 3 more games, now the same stuff happens on the other side. Get 50% winrate, all games are decided by which team has more assholes. Same as every season
"same is on the other side" sure it is, but it's not about losing game or something, it's about atmosphere. Personally I'm exhausted with all that double stress because people flame and blame you without a reason. And I'm exhausted in trying hard to win while my team just don't care. Even if I'm winning such game I'm so exhausted that I want to take a long brake from LoL. Which Im doing right now.
Lari (EUNE)
: My season 9 so far :)
I was G4, won 8, lost 2 placements and ended in Silver 2... Now I have horrible teams, with lots of toxic, troll and negativity. I was just called names in lobby because I banned Sylas. I think maybe Silver 2 will be enough for this season.. because Im done.
Blakex13x (EUW)
: its ok for trolls to ruin my lp is riot?.
I won 6 games out of 7 right now. And I have to say that I'm almost 100% happy with my play in those games. What makes me sad is that enemy mostly was very bad and we were lucky because some people in my teams were bad too... I was in Gold, but I played with people who were silver/bronze last season. Winning against some people felt really weird because I was not even trying hard - they were so bad that I was amazed that it is ranked game. Today I had Jhin who was really bad. He was 0/5/0, feeding good enemy adc. Our support was good but he was so frustrated, he flamed Jhin because he was trying to keep him alive and that guy just kept dying ignoring our warnings and pings. I asked him to play under tower because he was pushing - nah, he was not even putting wards, just pushing and dying. Thank god enemy was not as good as I thought and we won this game, carrying Jhin with us. He didn't try at all. He got free LP, and EVERYONE in my team was mad at him. If we had a choice we would vote to delete all LP gained by him because he didn't deserve it. But what Riot will probably do? Either punish support for flame or just ignore everything. I'm really sick of people ruining ranked games. It doesn't matter if they are in my team or in enemy team. I report all trolls because I don't want to meet them in the future. A while ago one guy wrote that he was banned for 14 days for "trolling", he uploaded his game and he was playing normally. And lots, looooots of people I played with and reported them for real trolling still play. I don't know who the hell decides about it but this situation is out of control for a very long time. I'm glad that right now I don't have much problems with rankeds but I feel it under my skin that it's going to change soon...
: Darius splash arts.
Still better than Spectacular Sivir :D But I agree 100%. I think the reason is just the artist's style.
JesRect (EUW)
: I just accepted my ban after some time but like why am I getting punished when i'm flaming players that are flaming me first im being toxic in a toxic environment fine being toxic is bad and against the rule i get ban but the people in response to who i was toxic they just get nothing that unfairness led me to make this post thanx for ur supp :) mind if i friend u ?
I "accepted" my ban too, at least as much as I can because I still don't understand why they banned it in a first place... I still don't like to think about it tho, because I spent lots of time to get better rank there and they just destroyed it without any proper answer. And about toxicness... I think that some kind of toxic should be punished, if it's extreme flame like wishing someone death, death threats and racist/homofobic ones. Because in a real life you can be punished for it too. And hurting people like this is not good at all. But light toxicness like a bit of bad words or just talking bs because of frustration is normal, we experience it in normal life too when someone annoy us or we are just in a very bad mood... Riot is not our parents or teacher to punish us for this. You can't "clean up" the chat like that, I bet that at least 4/5 of Rioters also have bad days and flame in games or in real life. Because we are human, we have our emotions. And for stuff like that they shouldn't give us more than a chat restr. Hmm u can add me but Im on EUNE. :)
JesRect (EUW)
: I don't really understand the banning system?
I lost one of my oldest accounts because I was _using 3rd party program_. They didn't want to tell me which program they think I used and since I never ever used in my life cheats on any game (I think it spoils all fun in the game) I felt like they just banned be for nothing. So yeah, they can ban anyone and they just say "yeah we can see the reason but it doesn't matter". At least you had a choice. I had no information, no warning - acc was clean, no bans or chat rest. If I knew something is going on I would ask them to tell me what's wrong and how to prove them I'm innocent. Nahhh better just perma ban and ignore players... I know that we all agree with their rules before playing and in those rules are also informatios that they can ban you anytime and they don't need to prove that you are guilty... So basically they can ban everyone of us any second and the chance that they will unban you is pretty small...
Smerk (EUW)
: yes, you can pick your level border instead. Just go to icon selection screen
: moving a country over a videogame the company doesnt care to properly optimize is the top of my "idiot things to say" list
well this guy obviously never had ping, lag or dc ;) And if he had he probably moved to other country, bought 3 new laptops (just in case) and had a toiled next to his sit - also just in case.
Èclair (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Alchemiczka,realm=EUNE,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=REaLM7iV,comment-id=000b00010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-28T01:25:32.200+0000) > > No I didn't edit anything in our discussion. Funny. > There is no need to be mean, I know my profession and you don't need to mock it by making quote marks. I don't mock your profession. I mock you for going with most vague term when making an argument to authority. > Of course, but we are talking specifically about Riot's copyrights. And maybe you should read what they have to say about it before correcting and mocking me. :) Read what? The vague "Riot website" you're referencing but can't seem to link it? Okay. Did you mean the [Fan Art License](https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/fan-art-license-agreement)? Because there is no mention on commercial usage of your fan art. Maybe you mean look how Riot threats commissions? Because just from one employee, I can see the endorsement for [LoLettering](https://twitter.com/lolettering/status/1077447150202540032) who sells fancy handwritten quotes from League, [Monori Rogue](https://twitter.com/MonoriRogue/status/1070259109339885570) who uses Patreon service to monetize his artwork, Nixri even got a retweet too for his Katarina commission, [this was made by an official League partner who's really close friend to the Rioter](https://twitter.com/RinTheYordle/status/1075578255523012610), [some merch made by multiple artists](https://twitter.com/KateyAnthony/status/1065075109822484480). All of that taken from [RiotKateyKhaos](https://twitter.com/kateyanthony), a Senior dev on QA team. For a company that is allegedly strict about usage of monetized fan art, they sure do promote awful lot of it. > Well again, you obviously never saw their statement because what you are saying is totally wrong. Oh, The Statement from Riot Website says I'm wrong? Quite convenient. > Excuse me, it's you who started to tell me that I'm wrong while you didn't even bother to check the facts. I hope you will feel stupid when you read the informations about copyrights made by Riot, because you should. No, I actually don't. I think the one who feels stupid is, at least judging from your actions. But you do give good advices. Practice what you preach. > Lesson number 1 - never argue with someone until you know what they are talking about. Or you know, wait till somebody explains something to you in easily digestive manner and then alter your stances to look like you were right from the beginning. This is also a good strategy. > And since I really don't want to continue this pointless discussion (since one participant decided to be ignorant) I will just add one more thing: Then don't be ignorant. It's that easy, really. >Lots of them doesn't even have legal business. They have no deal with companies, including Riot, and no written permission to do it. And these companies do nothing about it making people like you think that they are ok with it. Glad somebody is here to virtue signal against practice copyright holder is more than comfortable with. > But there are kids that are watching it and learning what is good and what is bad. _Won't somebody please think of the children?_ > BECAUSE OTHERS DO IT. Because companies support them. Because they are sharing their official art on public boards and people, also mods, like it and support it. And these kids will have serious problems in the future when one company will say "no, that's enough" and sue them. So in your eyes making monetized fan art of IP you know the copyright holder has no ill will against is wrong because somebody somewhere at some point might take it as granted? Do you know how does it sound? Hope you at least took something from this discussion. So long.
I don't care if u believe me or not, I didn't edit anything, if you think differently then stay in your little Eden and think that you are the smartest person alive, lol. And... No, I'm talking about the one actualized in August 2018: https://www.riotgames.com/en/legal And I also hope that you can force yourself to still be open minded and learn something too, with respect to others and some culture. Bye
WarlockBN (EUNE)
: by the way .... if you still use usb or wifi to play this game .. they are right ... you are a noob ... you need to use cable ... cuz that 1 is better so you don't dc .... 2 faster .. all good players know that :D
actually I have cable, fast internet and no problem anywhere else but still got DC in LoL sometimes. So, nope, I don't think that it's only wifi problem.
: ^this. people need to realise howmuch responsible they are for things themselves in life and especially in league. YOU chose to play ranked with crappy internet, YOU chose to for example pick top and suck and now you blame your jungler gues what its YOUR lane, YOUR responsibility. a jungler coming to gank is a privlidge. all these people blaming and flaming yet are doing sh!t themselves gosh i hate it.
> YOU chose to play ranked with crappy internet Excuse me? :D My internet is fine, thank you. Ping 20-30 at most. Like I said, never had any problem in other games. Maybe take your head out of... your back, and think that you are not Alfa and Omega just like some people are not responsible for some problems. > a jungler coming to gank is a privlidge. ahah wow man, you went places. You really must have some issues, go calm down before commenting.
: could easily be some buggy thing with your laptop, good chance that if you buy a new pc or reinstall windows its sorted. in short it is something you have influence on.
> if you buy a new pc or reinstall windows its sorted old laptop - same problem, new gaming laptop - same problem, windows was reinstalled - same problem About year ago lots people who had Internet in Orange had same issues. Now it's something different. Both things were not players fault. There are also issues in game itself and even Riot informs about it.
Silisa (EUNE)
: That just means people need to use their pings better. And if someone ignores 5 of my "Danger" pings, they only have themselves to blame.
Yes I agree, they should. But they don't. Sadly. I'm also muting people but sometimes it just feels bad. I'm unmuting them later hoping they calmed down. Sometimes they do, sometimes the start to flame someone else...
Gebba (EUW)
: The problem is that this is your own personal issue and it ruins it for other people. I can't sympathise with you because i don't have these types of problems, but that one time it does happen to me, i DO expect to be reported. I don't expect anything to happen though because it happens far too rarely for me. If it happened every 10 games i would expect a punishment.
Lol, well let's start with the fact that my disconnections are usually pretty short - 5-10 seconds and never made a bigger impact. And no it's not "personal issue" when everything should work fine but it's not. I never have beed disconnected in Smite, HOTS or other multiplayer game. But in LoL it's almost "normal" to got DC once per day at least. So how is that "personal issue" if the problem is only with one game? It's Riot's job to make it playable. Yeah I hate AFKers, yes they are ruining the game and I agree that they should be punished. But DC is not something unusual and lots of times it's not player's fault that it's happening.
: well i kinda agree with this but i have to say those who play ranked with a potato that disconnects every few minutes deserves a special place in hell :)
what if I told you that it doesn't matter if your computer is great or old? I have new gaming laptop and it disconnects too sometimes, even when my internet connection is fine.
Silisa (EUNE)
: I will never understand why people don't use the mute option.
I think people use it but before they mute everyone they hope that someone will stop at the first sentence and focus on playing. But usually they don't stop... Also, it's a bit uncomfortable to play as a team when the communication is closed - pings don't tell u everything (for example people ping "enemy ward is here" but they meant that enemy is here... and you go there to destroy ward but 2 enemies sits there and kills you).
Mcgalakar (EUNE)
: You know that the game is toxic, when you praise your jungler for great gank, and he goes defensive because he thinks that I'm flaming him by being sarcastic. :-)
Haha yesterday I said "gj" to someone who took double when ganked but died after it. He flamed me that I should "stfu" and do better if I can. And I'm like woohaa.. chill out I said "gj" not "report". Lol...
Èclair (EUNE)
: This is your previous statement I was referring to: > _[They can sue you at any time whether your fan art was made for profit or not as any fan art is considered copyright infringement.]_ Nope. You can make fanart if you make no money from it. Which is simply untrue. Did you edit your posts after I posted my response to them? Because that line about Nintendo and the latter part of your argument were not there when I made my reply. > Sadly, people make money on fanarts too. Against companies wills. But again - SADLY - companies do nothing about it and everyone thinks that it's ok to do it. And it's pretty annoying for anyone who can be fair. What _"other companies"_? Why did you bring that up? Other companies are other companies. Riot is Riot. And Riot has no problem with people doing commissions with their copyrighted characters. They even hire freelancers that are known for doing commissions with League content. They are fully aware of this and by not taking any actions, they are consenting to it. At this point you aren't acting fair. You're acting pretentious.
> Which is wrong on so many levels considering this comes from a "professional" I'm actually glad you corrected yourself. Did you by any chance edit your previous posts? No I didn't edit anything in our discussion. There is no need to be mean, I know my profession and you don't need to mock it by making quote marks. And my statement is the same as it was when I started this comment - I don't see your point. > But from the legal standpoint they have every right to act on whenever you're using their property for profit or not. Of course, but we are talking specifically about Riot's copyrights. And maybe you should read what they have to say about it before correcting and mocking me. :) > I don't know why you made the shift towards "if you're given permission". A permission can be revoked at any given moment whenever the copyright holder comes to the conclusion that your usage of their IP is inappropriate or not to their liking. Again - yes. If they decide that they don't want fans to make fan arts and they don't give permission to do it then your duty is to delete any fan art in your portfolio. > But from empirical evidence, Riot does agree on incorporating their copyrighted characters into monetized artwork. And by this and the fact that they aren't acting on their rights to their IP, they are giving you consent. Again, read please the official statement of Riot about copyrights because this discussion if pointless if you don't know the actual facts. It is very clear that they agree to make fanart but it should be usable for anyone (people can copy your fanart, use it in any way and you have 0 rights to it). And it's also very clear that they don't agree to sell fanarts and gadgets with them. And here we are - going back to my very first comment. It would be very nice if Riot finally decided. Because it's obviously very hard for them to decide whatever people can sell LoL art or not. If they don't agree then they should make moves to punish people who do it. Or at least say it clear and loud that they don't agree. And don't support people who do that and at the same time write that we can't do it - WTF? > Riot has no problem with people doing commissions with their copyrighted characters. You jumped to the conclusion without even knowing topic at hand and accused somebody of wrongdoing. Well again, you obviously never saw their statement because what you are saying is totally wrong. > You are offended on Riot's behalf because you want to think that somebody wronged Riot, when in reality Riot is pretty okay with this practice. AGAIN - WRONG. > Not only that, many freelance artists who worked for Riot had already made plenty of commissions with their characters. Or even better, they got offered a job because some commissions they did. If you work for a company and they are giving you special rights to sell comissions then of course you can do it. I also have such permissions from companies I worked for. But if, for example, my friend wanted to do it too and she would sell art with their characters they would sue her for 100%. > You aren't acting fair, you're acting pretentious. Excuse me, it's you who started to tell me that I'm wrong while you didn't even bother to check the facts. I hope you will feel stupid when you read the informations about copyrights made by Riot, because you should. Lesson number 1 - never argue with someone until you know what they are talking about. And since I really don't want to continue this pointless discussion (since one participant decided to be ignorant) I will just add one more thing: It's not about telling others what to do. It's about clear informations that are very, very important for people who take art and rights seriously. I met this year a lot of great artists on festivals, none of them were making fanarts. Obviously you can't make it for money whenever you want - it's obvious for everyone in art industry. But there are artists who are living only from making fanarts, also from LoL. Lots of them doesn't even have legal business. They have no deal with companies, including Riot, and no written permission to do it. And these companies do nothing about it making people like you think that they are ok with it. But there are kids that are watching it and learning what is good and what is bad. These kids are also starting to make fanarts and sell them and they are 100% sure they can do it freely. BECAUSE OTHERS DO IT. Because companies support them. Because they are sharing their official art on public boards and people, also mods, like it and support it. And these kids will have serious problems in the future when one company will say "no, that's enough" and sue them. It's not a fairy tale because such things happens, especially when you touch sensitive japanese companies. You don't want to be on the bad side.
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