: although adc is in a bit of a shake-up bruisers/mages bot, some adc's survived like draven/lucian/ezreal/mf/jhin but allot of em scale to late or arnt as impactfull as say a cassio or a darius or yasuo. So you are half right
Man I have been draven main for some time now had 70% win rate on him with like 30 games and now my games are going downhill with him getting poked all the time beacuse of my axes its kinda bad so I ve been playing lux and zoe lol until they fix something and they really do need to fix it before season 9 Also Draven is getting banned in like 70% of matches so...
Rioter Comments
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Well you said it was their way telling me to GTFO clearly its not
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Well I got perma banned and riot didn't say gtfo to me no they said that I can make a new accout :) buy skins more RP :)))))
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Perma ban is not a good solution solves nothing its just a system to milk more money off players *FACT*
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
WHAT? In that game I was the carry and he provoked me first so I flamed him
Hansiman (EUW)
: Chat restrictions are the standard first penalty for verbal toxicity. You first specified that the person was simply "feeding", which is not a violation. You have games where you've fed as well, so should you get banned?
I got banned man all I am saying if there weren't people like that guy I probably wouldn't
Hansiman (EUW)
: And how did you manage to check if they had a chat restriction?
chat restriction for int and flame in a ranked game ?okkkkkk
Vertinhol (EUW)
: Why restrict chat for a toxic player, the main problem is his mind and if he can't chat then his team will have a weakness. It's like a football player that insults the referee, he gets a red card and the next match he will play but with something in his mouth to prevent him to speak.
Why not restrict chat ? Restrict the chat if the person starts trolling and inting perma ban him
Hansiman (EUW)
: Retaliation is nothing but toxicity though. All it does is ensure that two people are breaking the rules, and deserve a punishment, rather than one. --- > you can't trashtalk me and expect that I do nothing because I am like that Actions hold consequences. If you decide that being toxic is how you want to react, expect consequences. --- > you are the types of person to whom people can say anything to your face and you would reply with thank you I'd just report the person and move on. I don't need to sink to their level.
Well the other guy didn't get punished I checked it out and btw I think 5 people from that game quit play or even more. Toxicity is not a big problem like you think it is.
Hansiman (EUW)
: While stating a game is "easy" is unsportsmanlike, and just used to mock others; nobody gets banned for that alone. Most people simply want to play, and enjoy, a game without having to encounter toxic people that want to ruin their fun. If you can't be civil towards other people, multiplayer games are not really for you.
The game I was banned for: Ranked game I was adc vayne 20/7 flamed a feeder and a trashtalker we lost the game I was carrying and he was saying shit to me I have to step up for myself when I am giving 100 % you can't trashtalk me and expect that I do nothing because I am like that and you guys cleary are not you are the types of person to whom people can say anything to your face and you would reply with thank you
: both you quitting or playing on a new account without flaming is equal to -1 toxic player. Worked
yeah you forgot the part that really matters to riot -money
Hansiman (EUW)
: They know that because the permanent chat restriction thing you suggest was tested out, and didn't work. Why bring it back then?
: So perma ban worked. Why change it?
perma worked for who ? I am about to quit this game and I don't really care riot will lose the juicy euros Just keep perma banning people 70 % of my friends quit playing and no one new is joining and how could new people play when they get toxic smurfs all the time
Hansiman (EUW)
: Care to provide evidence to suggest "tons of players" are getting wrongfully banned? If you believe there's nothing wrong with toxicity, you're bound to think that any chat log will show nothing wrong. However, you'll find that the majority of the community disagrees with you.
I don't have any data just look up on boards and see well majority of this community gets triggered by the word "ez" lol you are just pleasing kids and snowflakes
Zanador (EUNE)
: But first they will troll matches or go afk. I don't think that anyone would vote for more trolls and afks.
How do you know that ? I got perma banned and I am playing on a new account had some bad games but didn't troll once or flamed
PH45 (EUNE)
: > Should they only people to get perma ban be either hackers,trollers,cheaters and people who constantly troll their games ? Permaban should be for those who show consistent negative behavior, just like in the current system. > And for the toxic people to get perma chat restriction ? Perma chat restriction has been tested, and it didn't prove to solve any issues.
current system is kinda bad man tbh lots of people are getting banned even tho they said nothing wrong plus flaming can just be muted
: Nope, just ban them as well. No need to chat restrict them first to turn them into trolls when they can't flame anymore. Same with afks
I don't think people should get perma for flaming only perma chat restriction if they turn into trolls as you say then perma ban them
: PERMA BAN FOR ONLY HACKERS Sounds about right. Afterall, it is just a game. I think you can ban Trundle yourself so that takes care of the trolls :)
Rioter Comments
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Take a look at the boards people complain all the time about stupid bans
ZereFbg (EUNE)
: The moment you said ''People get offended easily nowadays'' someone INSTANTLY downvoted your comment LOL. This says a lot about the our current situation...
Yeah lol there are people like that I saw a post on boards saying that if you type "ez" in game you should be banned it was downvoted tho thank God lol
Tarolock (EUNE)
: >losing an entire account over words is just stupid you are right about this, but its NOT riots fault that you cant shut your mouth over a video game
I can't shut my mouth when I'm giving my 100% to win a ranked game when I am carrying and someone comes in and trashtalks me for no reason or feeds
Rynor (EUW)
: Sad thing is, millions of players spending money on this game and a lot of getting ban for no good reasons and their money stolen.
Yeah that's true but as I said I ain't spending 1 euro on this game only if they unban my account which is unlikely but who knows
Aezander (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Beatenbynoob,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=dtAVy66c,comment-id=000b0001,timestamp=2018-12-25T14:38:29.024+0000) > > Any result is a good result if people reform its possible you can't have everyone to reform I really care about this game and if you guys put me in this experiment I would prove to you :) but considering my luck I wont be in experiment. *Any result is a good result* ... That ... couldn't be further from the truth ... If the experiment has the same yield as the first time they did it (iirc it was circa 5%), then that is not a good result. Even if that means that some people have reformed. > Your whole system for perma banning is bad why ban people for words no game does it this way yet LoL is one of the most toxic games out there only people that should get perma are people that hack cheat feed on purpose or expose private information that can't be stopped yet bad language can be stopped by pressing mute button experiment should spread beyond NA to give people the same chance why only NA idk but we love the game as much as they do even more people play on EU servers than NA. The assumption here is that people that hack don't get severely punished, which is not the case. But that is understandable because you are ignoring the fact that finding them is far more difficult than shifting through a Chat Log. Same thing with Trolls/Intentional-Feeders. The perma banning system is not wrong at this point, just very inefficient in some areas. As for why ban people for words ? ... Because in a game that requires of you to cooperate with your team to reach a goal, words can be detrimental to the outcome just as an inter "running it down mid". Not to mention that insulting someone by being a racist jerk, or wishing him death is not a behaviour someone should exhibit *over a game*. Add to that the simple fact that one doesn't know the mental state of the target of one's words and what they can trigger (e.g. suicide), and you could possibly understand that "*the pen is mightier than the sword*". And before we go to the usual, "*but if he can't handle the internet he shouldn't be here*" logic, let me remind you that even the guy that flames shouldn't be here, because he can't handle himself **in a game**. > Thank you for this information I lost all my hope when the riot support sent me the ticket you game me some hope on this day. It makes me wonder what the Support told you to crash your hopes. > Good luck with the experiment and Merry Christmas Merry Christmas
Yes any result is a good result if its 5% then they can work their way up there you cant expect it to be 100 % efficient I am just saying they should take more time to deal with hackers or their servers than perma banning people for toxicity its really not that big of a problem the thing is community is filled with kids and snowflakes. people dont cooperate in LoL atleast not in 70% of games in low elo they don't either you get a smurf who mutes all and rages on new players for dying or the other team gets one
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Yes we all know that but the thing is RIOT reversed the ban and they clearly state they don't so there are exceptions
ZereFbg (EUNE)
: I am fine with punishments as long as they don't lead to perma ban. Even if its 1 whole season of REAL chat restriction I would be fine with it.
same lol and i would still buy skins :)
ZereFbg (EUNE)
: When talking about chat restrictions we should talk about A REAL CHAT RESTRICTION. Not the cheap ones they they give. Which even they are made to provoke the negative outcome.
after 14 day ban give perma chat restriction(or just 1000 games) since you can talk you can still int and feed if that happens perma ban the account
Brokenhz (EUW)
: Still..they unbanned tyler1 that we all know he was toxic as hell.I believe evryone deserve a second chance. No?{{sticker:sg-kiko}}
Yes they gave him a second chance because he earns them money League is losing players and they couldn't afford someone like T1 to be banned and not stream their game
: > [{quoted}](name=Beatenbynoob,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=dtAVy66c,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-12-24T14:16:11.898+0000) > > Hello for anyone who is wondering about the NA unban experiment it failed lol like the one before and will not be expanded into EU or any other region I got this info from riot support :( Hey, just to quickly jump on this. There was a miscommunication coming from my colleague in the ticket with you. We have not yet determined if the experiment we ran in NA was successful or not. We are in a process of collecting data, interpreting them and assessing how it went. When we have solid result which is backed by the data we can talk about success or failure :). As if this comes to EU, that is also unsure for now (depends a lot on the results once we find them out). For now its not a no but it is not a yes either :). I am sorry for the slight confusion there. Lets call it a bad influence from Grinch :P. Merry Christmas to all of you!
Any result is a good result if people reform its possible you can't have everyone to reform I really care about this game and if you guys put me in this experiment I would prove to you :) but considering my luck I wont be in experiment. Your whole system for perma banning is bad why ban people for words no game does it this way yet LoL is one of the most toxic games out there only people that should get perma are people that hack cheat feed on purpose or expose private information that can't be stopped yet bad language can be stopped by pressing mute button experiment should spread beyond NA to give people the same chance why only NA idk but we love the game as much as they do even more people play on EU servers than NA. Thank you for this information I lost all my hope when the riot support sent me the ticket you game me some hope on this day. Good luck with the experiment and Merry Christmas
Èclair (EUNE)
: I can't find any official info on that. Can you link your sources? Many thanks.
Look at the comments I posted the screenshot but it turns out admin trolled me lol
Rynor (EUW)
: Yes, most games' company doesn't ban you for simple words unless it serious threats. Riot Games want people accounts to get ban so that they can spend money on skins again.
Well I got perma banned and I aint speding a euro at this game anymore
Gabresol (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=ZereFbg,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=dtAVy66c,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-24T19:51:02.648+0000) > > To the 2 people that disagreed with me , explain me why. Explain me how good are permabans for removing the ''toxic'' players from the game... Tell me how exactly does it fix the issue . First off the WHY chat-behavoir can rightfully end in bans: The chat, as well as pings are a very useful toll to help coordinating the team, especially for taking objectives, setting up teamfights and helping your teammates making decisions. An example for the last one would be telling your mate that the enemy jungler is not really leaving top and therefore your bot can push harder without worrying about the jungler. If I am forced to mute someone from chat or/and this players pings, because this players abuse of chat and pings to release once rage are distracting (or frustrating me when I am already tilting), I potencinally loose an important source of informative input, putting the team at a disatvantage against the enemy team that has all communication lins open. --> Summary: Negative chat or ping behavoir can effectivly decrease your win chances, so it can be argued to be griefing even if that is not the actual intention behind it. (Bonus: Some people even die while ranting in the chat) Now: How are permabans removing toxic players from the game: Simple. You cannot be toxic if you cannot play the game. Sure. You can make a new account, but you have to level it up first, so at least ranked will be save from these players for some time. And not having these players in ranked for some time is still better than having them in ranked all the time.
PERMA BANNING PEOPLE FOR TOXICITY DOESN'T SOLVE ANYTHING Perma chat restriciton tho could solve it
: Just curious, source? Would like reading into details.
https://imgur.com/a/QrBdTcJ
Smerk (EUW)
: Well, I won't be surprised if that's true, but still I'd like to see a source
https://imgur.com/a/QrBdTcJ
  Rioter Comments
: I've just been banned for asking my team to surrender a 4v5 without the use of any profain language?
Atlas (EUNE)
: Why is this happening to me?
Happend to me too man I lost 9 ranked games in a row had a feeling riot was putting me in with some weir people lol funny thing is when i wrote it in chat I wrote "riot is putting me with noobs" next ranked game I won lol so just luck probably but who knows
Rioter Comments
ShacoOrTaco (EUNE)
: And u consider this toxic?
Fact is when you say "ky s" to someone there is 90% chance he will kill himself but with riot taking action perma banning anyone who says this word suicide rate dropped by 50% in just 2 years
Cynamit3 (EUNE)
: What happend to permaban remove experiment that was on NA?
I want to know more aswell but sadly they didn't give any info about it yet.Hopefully they implement it in EU as well but I doubt it considering the last experiment failed
: poits sytem broken????
Yeah its broken I have the same problem it really annoys me especially with all the trolls and feeders around but I think they will fix it soon enough
Killmore (EUNE)
: getting an S
: Cant buy RP
make a ticket

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