AnimalGeti (EUNE)
: Ask riot i need more keys" only in american servers
Yeah, the nexus part of the site not being accessible to all regions is kind of annoying indeed. I'm still laughing over the way they decided to phrase "we need to make money, too, you know" x'D Also about the suggested key fragment gain rate, that would have the possibility to reward a player who wins 3 games a week more than a guy who wins 12 games in 3 weeks (depending on the good or bad luck of the latter guy). I think that this bad-luck failsafe that is mentioned in the article is just fine. Don't forget they ***do*** want to make summoners play more and reward them for that. So playing more should give you better chances. But they do give you better chances of earning more keys in the beggining of your reset timer as it's mentioned in #2 point of the answer there. Not 3 keys on first 3 wins per se, but better chances.
: This is just sad...
As Jesperr101 mentioned KDA is not the only factor in your grade. You have 60,8% KP. That is okay but not that good. Just above half. 14 KDA is crazy good though. I'm blaming the data I can't see which is damage dealt to enemy champions. NekroLynn got an S- because he was a support and supports got a reduced quota to meet to get higher grades so don't compare it to that
Declined (EUNE)
: Volunteer Harrowing 2016
Woah great post guys **RESPECT** for the work you put into this :D The design is crazy plus love the contests and games :)
Declined (EUNE)
: Volunteer Community Games! Day 5
Nοki (EUNE)
: LF a 5v5 ranked team. (EUNE)
Black Baron (EUNE)
: LF Ranked Team, EUNE 5 preferably
Rioter Comments
Infernape (EUW)
: Fiddlesticks. His Dark Wind will hit the entire enemy team no matter what. Varus is good because of his Q. Build a tear, some armour pen and it's gg.
Actually It's 1v1, about the fiddles
Rioter Comments
iRoKu01 (EUW)
: Champ select - being able to select 2 classes
As a marksman main I don't have a probelm with this since my role and class is pretty much the same with the exception of that time Mordekaiser was an adc xD But I can see how that can be a problem nontheless
WinterDog (EUW)
: Searching for Diamond + top and Jungle from Nordic Who are interested in Ragnorak :)
I bet that mistake could *actually* take down the Gods x'D It's **Ragnarok**, man. Good luck finding your teamates and best of luck in the tournament
Rioter Comments
TTekkers (EUW)
: Just blame the boosted bonobos. And those in the process of being boosted.
Yeah, could be. But how many of them it can't be that many... plus i've been called boosted many times but I ain't \o/
Rioter Comments
: I disagree. I think that every role has its own peculiarities, and thus requires a different playstyle to win your game. ADC's simply have to abide to their own ruleset, and have to respect what others do. I would however say that it is the hardest role to play correctly, and that carrying from it can be challenging, but once you have the basics and big things down you make make tons of mistakes and still get out relatively well. Getting a headstart is also not that important, although headstarts are more forgiving on the mistake department. Plat teams are garbage and I don't really see what that line even adds. Sure if you get focussed then it's gonna be a lot harder for you- but I've seen bronze teams focus certain champions more effectively than plat teams, and frequently at that. Individual skill doesn't factor in when a team achievement needs to be made. And well the communication? Mid needs to communicate with the jungler, supp needs to communicate with ADC and vice versa. It's just that you have to be open-minded enough to accept that other roles might crash into different/the same issues.
Thank you for the answer and the thorough explanation! What I don't understand though is > Individual skill doesn't factor in when a team achievement needs to be made. If above is true, how would you suggest one works around objectives who are mostly a team achievement to manage to climb the ladder?
: Master ADC AMA
First of all congratulations for making it to Master! :D Good luck to you, progressing even further, may I add :) ADC is a role that is rather hard to carry as, because if, despite efforts for communication, no opportunities are correctly used (since usually you need a support to help you get the play made to take the advantage) and you get no headstart, a proper Plat team will crash you to Oblivion in fights if you don't have a headstart. Therefore, ADC is a role that requires the summoner to make near to zero mistakes to "carry" a game due to individual skill, unlike other roles who are more forgiving. Do you agree with the above statement? Any comments on it?
XSALAMATX (EUNE)
: Get gud
**Learn:** -How to last hit -When a dragon is more worth it than chasing that 5th enemy who escaped -To always watch the map -The basic mechanics of this game (e. G. how casting time and cast anination are two different things and that one can be interrupted by Heavy CC and one can not) -How to have the correct mindset. -How to improve after EVERY GAME you play -How to find a way to pin the fault of the defeat ON YOU so that you can improve That's the best I can tell you as a Platinum summoner.
Brxwnie (EUW)
: it's possible to win 4v5 i've done it. it's impossible to win when you have two items are the enemy has four, simply because sona has fed them. Smart players won't let you stall for items they just force fights, and seige.
How often do you see such "smart players"? Because as a Platinum summoner I tell you that most summoners I get matchmade with, (both enemies *and* teamates) will go stalling and killing instead of getting a relatively early baron to finish the game. It is rare for me to see a team that pushes the advantage to finish the game early. That's why so many throws occure. That's why I feel that a Sona feed is nothing. Also, after 2-3 deaths she won't be even worth killing, 5 cs > Sona, she needs more time and resources to kill so a smart enemy farms instead. Just don't tilt. That's the worst thing about having a feeding teamate. Tilting, being negative and giving up. That's the stuff that will lose the game for you, not the current advantage the enemy gained from those kills.
: Always the bird! I do a lot of this, I win all my lane phases but then enemy comes ganking as 3-4 and I am dead. When I try to roam I lose my lane advantage. The conecpt of the jungler ruines the game. :(
What's your main? Sounds like mid. When you get a head buy a vision ward. Watch your map. If bot/top goes SS stay back and ping for your team to go for a turret push. Try to roam earlier but time it correctly. Enemy pushing, jungler appearing top-side or you know he went kruggs first so cleared red ~ 5.10 meaning he'll go again @ ~ 10.10 so you can roam bot. Can't roam bot but have a headstart? Work with your jungler! Push mid, force him to invade enemy jungle!
Brxwnie (EUW)
: So skill and knowlege will win the game 4v5 when my sona flash ults into a wall and builds three boots.
Yes. Even when that happens. I've been through Bronze V, I've seen this type of things. I'm not talking from a "safe distance" here. I have swam through the shit.
Die2Born (EUW)
: My thought about playing ranked
Yeah, quality of games doesn't necessarily change with skill of summoners. There's no difference in how much people tilt => flame, no difference in tilted/annoying people trolling/afking or generally being **douchebags**. The *only* thing that changes is individual skill. They know more about the game. That's it. From what I've heard and noticed, it's a lot better above D3. But reaching that is not a task for anyone. In my opinion, Diamond 3 is the breaking point, the step of the ladder that seperates people who are still learning the multiple *and complicated *aspects of the game. I'm not one of those people though, just sharing my opinion. I do **not** present the above as facts.
: Someone help me with ranked
* Watch some streams, see what they do. * Learn how to watch your minimap. * Use wards. * Improve your farm, keep in mind ~ 17 cs = 1 kill * Don't go just for kills. Objectives (*turrets and drag/baron*) are better than chasing that 1 enemy that survived thus your team didn't get the ace. * Learn a champion. See what pros build on said champion or a lot of champs. * Try to stay calm and positive. * Read the tooltip of every ability of every champion, every item. You should be fully aware of those stuff if you aren't already so that you can start predicting e.g. that Vayne's E when she moves around you. There's many many more things as this is a complicated strategic game with many many aspects. This is just a list I prepared in a matter of 2 mins. Best of luck, Nice summoner name. Bird or cage? ;)
Brxwnie (EUW)
: Ranking up in this game is a joke
It's difficult yet not impossible. In my opinion if someone can't rank up in the long-term it's none's fault but their own. Yes that game with the guy that got 3 boots or afked or trolled sucked. But usually (inlcuding some of these games) skill, knowledge and self-restrain can help you win the game. Generally, if you're (much) better than your enemies you ***will*** in fact win. Exceptions do apply of course since not every game is winnable and so many factors are at hand. But no, Elo Hell is ***not real*** and it's not the thing that's keeping you back from ranking up. It's mostly you think that it's Elo Hell that's keeping you back instead of trying to figure out more about the game and the mechanics. As many pro streamers have proved you can rank up from Bronze/Silver/Gold/Platinum if you're good enough. I've won a 3vs5 game in Silver 3 with my smurf. One of the 2 guys that were still in the game went for Tank Ezreal instead of ADC build. And we won ***that***. So yea. TL;DR Elo Hell is not real, improving one's skills strategy knowledge and attitude is the best way to rank up fast in the ladder. Best of luck ! :)
TCU Dushi (EUW)
: Hard to give feedback on how someone plays without actually seeing them play the game. Ever considered watching streams of top ADc's ? I mean, Lucian is played plenty times for you to be able n watch his gameplay by someone in challenger. Gosu and Sneaky are probably 2 ADc mains to watch.
Yeah, I have tried that but I can't quite get what I'm missing the spell rotation e.g. appears chaotic to me, the way Gosu does it at least. He just changes it depending on the situation. I was just wondering if there's a big thing I'm missing in the technics I explained. I **do** agree that it's hard to give feedback without visual info.
Rioter Comments
: It's a bug. It's one of Morde's many (over 25) known to Riot. As a Morde OTP, I get this quite often when fighting against a Jhin. I don't deliberately abuse this bug, but... I can't just not attack the ADC and use the ghost, right? :( This effect will happen on every occurrence. Just to clarify that this is likely unintentional, Graves unloads and reloads as normal.
Thanks for the feedback on this! Yeah, I once saw a post somewhere listing over 10 of those bugs. I guess my post isn't really helpful :\
: Not sure why you were downvoted, seems like a bug to me!
Maybe people prefer this is left as is? Maybe it's even intented to be as is. But I think it's just a bug as well
Rioter Comments
Kendox (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Black Baron,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=AFX1qblb,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-30T13:58:28.481+0000) > > Alright, yes sometimes you'll get people who will get offended and will start flaming/tilting even if you tell them something simple like an advice. > But that doesn't mean you shouldn't try, because some people **will** listen to you and that will lead to a win. > > Also, Lee Sin is one of the best, if not **THE** best early game champion for jungle. That's great for getting kills early but if you don't capitalize on that advantage you're fried. Most common problem is being unable to wrap up the game early enough, or mid-game. Because if game goes into late you'll make less and less of an impact as everyone gets items, so your gold lead doesn't matter anymore and your damage falls off. > > So best advice I can give you is try to lead your team. And always, **ALWAYS** try to find a way that you could have done better to win the game. There is something simple, one simple mistake, or just a decision that wasn't an actual mistake but if it were different the game would be different. > > If you can't find anything you're doing wrong, you're either extremely unlucky, like 0.001% chance of going so wrong unlucky, or you're missing some knowledge about the game. > If you can find something you could've done differently that would affect the game leading to a win, learn from it and try to improve! > > After all, pretty much everyone < D3 is still learning and improving at the game. So there must be something you're missing well ye im not perfect sometimes i do mistakes ofc.But i swear that even if i go top or mid bot jungler i dont fed even if i know i cant win.I always play safe and i know when to engage.Big problem is even if lee sin is good early if your team push too hard like always or they dont help you when you ping that youre coming its still useless.1 example i ganked top like 2 3 times and after that he still manage to lose dunno how its strange.. eh he got kills too...The point is this if i dont carry no one will and im very serious about it.But yes i always say my fault i couldnt carry and i repeat again and again and try to do better but even if i snowball hard the enemy and destroy them sometimes they start flame me and say report lee ganking top or babysit bot too hard.. LEL.Still sometimes i feel like i cant do nothing more and i lose my minds when i see that all my games have to carry and to try harder and harder then normal.Thats the big problem.
Hmm try to improve your attitude maybe. I don't know if it will make a difference almost everyone says it does. Personally I have a bad attitude and mindset, not a flaming one, a feeling worthless one. If you can't make yourself believe in teamwork do your best to believe in yourself and that you can carry the game and maybe it will become easier for you. That's all the advice I have in mind, mate. Climbing is hard but not impossible. You're not alone in this struggle
Unit01 (EUNE)
: the difference between low and high elo, is not individual plays mostly, if compare bronze/silver with plat/diamond of course there might be a lot of individual skill difference, but mostly what is making high elo players better, is **ability to recongnize goals of game**, what they have to do in that particular game, jungler knows which lane to gank and when, when he needs to invade and when to aware of invasion, players know when to teamfight and when to avoid it, when to split push or take fights, go for baron or inhibs... And a lot of other things like that makes Diamond players > lower divisions, although diamond player may lose in 1 v 1 match to gold player which can machanically outplay him. So what about Platinum elo players, that's the worst nightmare, in this elo, half of players understand the aspects which i mentioned above, and know what and when to do, so you can say that those players are good players and they are ready to go to diamond, and the other half just have no freaking clue what's going on, you might have nasus in your team which thinks that he just must stay in lane till he gets 1000 stacks, or you might ping to go for inhibs after ace, but 3 of your teammates will go for baron and **a lot and a lot** of stuff like that. Personally, every player that got to plat. is OK in personal skill, well he might struggle a bit on few champions that lets say he didn't played much, like me, i didn't played on like 75% of champions, even tho climbed to diamond 2 seasons in a row S4 and S5, but that doesn't mean i will not play on some new champ that i feel to play on. I might not use him on 100% of his power for sure, but still will be OK. So in laning phase all players are ok, but in plat as i mentioned, everything comes to teamfights and game goals, where people make mistakes, and that's why you loose. How to avoid that? No how. Keep playing till you get better team. Most of People climb to diamond even with <50% winrate so don't get tilted, losestreaks happen, and winstreaks happen. not a big deal
Wow what a nice answer. As a plat that struggled and tilted to eternity last season when trying to reach Diamond I feel better reading your answer. Climb to diamond even with lower than 50% win rate! Thank you for your motivational words man
Kendox (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Black Baron,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=AFX1qblb,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-03-30T12:44:32.247+0000) > > It's certainly not only luck or all these pro players wouldn't end up on high tiers every season. > > In my opinion there's a reason why every summoner you meet is at that tier and luck can only push someone a few divisions upwards. > > From what you've said in your post it looks like you only rely on killing enemies. Sure, if you're good at that and bravo to you. But that's only one part of this game. There are so many things to consider. > > For example it looks like you play mostly top since you didn't mention it or jungle. > > If you're top then you should gank other lanes and use your TP to get back in lane if you have to. > > If you get a head start it's your job to help your team or lose trying. Gank other lanes. > > Can't get a kill on enemy? Help the laner push the lane and get a turret. > > Ping your jungler to invade the enemy jungle. Even if you deny enemy jungler 1 camp is an advantage. > > Push your team to get a dragon or even a baron if you're so much ahead and you see enemy is bot. > > I'm a platinum player as well not the kind that wins the lane often like you, the kind that knows when there's a strategical advantage and pushes it if possible. > > TL:DR there's more to killing enemy team. Helping your team kill or destroy objectives. Yes, plat is the point where it gets harder to solo carry (even according to pro players) but no, you dont always need luck to do it. > > Best of luck to you, summoner. Hope you succeed where I failed :) well what you say its very truth and i try believe me.But i wanna know this: How i must suppose to help lanes or gank or kill enemy in tf if they hardly fed.Its not 1 kill in 5 mins but like 3 or 4 enemy go ahead with like 2 3 lvls and he can 1v2 easy.. maybe 1v3. because its too far ahead.Thats my point because when someone hardly fed its imp to change that even in tf but yes no 1 can win lanes so easy and if i tell them guys plz play safe dont fed just farm its not hard.. they will rage and flame me so i dont say nothing at all.I play most lee sin jungler cuz im pretty good and i gank very mutch but if in 3 mins the enemy got like 3 4 kills.. i dunno how to change that honestly and if i try to tell them plz do that that listen to me we win they wont listen.So i have no idea what to do to change that seriously.
Alright, yes sometimes you'll get people who will get offended and will start flaming/tilting even if you tell them something simple like an advice. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't try, because some people **will** listen to you and that will lead to a win. Also, Lee Sin is one of the best, if not **THE** best early game champion for jungle. That's great for getting kills early but if you don't capitalize on that advantage you're fried. Most common problem is being unable to wrap up the game early enough, or mid-game. Because if game goes into late you'll make less and less of an impact as everyone gets items, so your gold lead doesn't matter anymore and your damage falls off. So best advice I can give you is try to lead your team. And always, **ALWAYS** try to find a way that you could have done better to win the game. There is something simple, one simple mistake, or just a decision that wasn't an actual mistake but if it were different the game would be different. If you can't find anything you're doing wrong, you're either extremely unlucky, like 0.001% chance of going so wrong unlucky, or you're missing some knowledge about the game. If you can find something you could've done differently that would affect the game leading to a win, learn from it and try to improve! After all, pretty much everyone < D3 is still learning and improving at the game. So there must be something you're missing
Kendox (EUNE)
: Carry its impossible
It's certainly not only luck or all these pro players wouldn't end up on high tiers every season. In my opinion there's a reason why every summoner you meet is at that tier and luck can only push someone a few divisions upwards. From what you've said in your post it looks like you only rely on killing enemies. Sure, if you're good at that and bravo to you. But that's only one part of this game. There are so many things to consider. For example it looks like you play mostly top since you didn't mention it or jungle. If you're top then you should gank other lanes and use your TP to get back in lane if you have to. If you get a head start it's your job to help your team or lose trying. Gank other lanes. Can't get a kill on enemy? Help the laner push the lane and get a turret. Ping your jungler to invade the enemy jungle. Even if you deny enemy jungler 1 camp is an advantage. Push your team to get a dragon or even a baron if you're so much ahead and you see enemy is bot. I'm a platinum player as well not the kind that wins the lane often like you, the kind that knows when there's a strategical advantage and pushes it if possible. TL:DR there's more to killing enemy team. Helping your team kill or destroy objectives. Yes, plat is the point where it gets harder to solo carry (even according to pro players) but no, you dont always need luck to do it. Best of luck to you, summoner. Hope you succeed where I failed :)
: Loosing points with an afk
Yes this has long been a problem and it's difficult to address it because of people abusing a system in which team doesn't lose if 1 member is disconnected from the game for more than 5 minutes. How to abuse it? You see that you have an early team composition and you heavily lose even that early game and realise enemy team is gonna prevail in 5-10 mins when game transits to late game. You leave the game now, helping teamates by making them not lose LP. (Even if they make a system with the leaver losing LP). All your team has to do is hold teeth and nails for 5 minutes after you disconnect. We've all lost and won games with an afk in our or the enemy team. Riot is being more and more strict towards consistent leavers with low priority queues and bans as well taking them off some benefits (players that have recently receive a ban didn't get loot and crests). When you do have an afk that might be a result of bad connection or a problem with pc etc and that's just the X factor that can't be controlled.
TTekkers (EUW)
: They are completely seperate. Having a good KDA puts you in a better position to win the game, but that's about the only link between the two.
Ok so the relation is limited to that! Thank you for answering.
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: KDA has no relation to MMR. What your friend meant is the latter.
Okay then! Thank you very much for the answer
Smerk (EUW)
: You gain MMR for victories and lose MMR for defeats, amount lost/gained depends on average MMR in the match, there are no other factors that affect MMR
Got it. Thank you for taking time to read and answer!
3rd Age (EUW)
: go 0/16/0 if you must to win a game. makes no difference with MMR. the more wins you get in a row the higher your MMR multiplies. same for losses but downwards. Win/lose will only steady it. :)
Alright, gotcha loud and clear. Thank you for your answer
Rioter Comments
: How Much Does Ping Effect GamePlay And Climbing?
Here you go, EternalShred! http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/page/ping-winrate-and-vayne-probs According to this post ±50 ms makes roughly 0.1% difference in winning chance. This means you have better % chance of winning the game if you're Blue side rather than having 50ms while the rest have 100ms. (as the Blue side wins ~52% games) Personally I think EUNE would be better for you, it's a bit closer. And yes, it makes a difference despite both being EU. I used to play with 90-100ms, asked my Internet Service Provider (ISP) to forward "Fast Path" on my line, which means reducing your bandwidth (per se, speeds) to give you faster connections to servers (mostly gaming ones) that have this feature available. Riot calls it Riot Direct. My ms got to 60-70ms. I enjoy that extra 0.030 seconds to respond especially when it's flashing away which is immediate so 30milliseconds make a difference. As a general note though, no, ping does not affect gameplay that heavily. There's a guy I know playing with 120ms permanently, he is Master league. Reflexes and response time are an important part of League of Legends, but flashing away a grab is not necessary if you know how to position your self accordingly to vision or lack of it. Hope I helped, Best of luck fellow summoner! {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
: How Much Does Ping Effect GamePlay And Climbing?
Basically 130 ms means 130 milliseconds delay for your command to arrive to the server. That is 0.130 seconds. Not really that crazy of a delay The average skill shot arrives at the average max range at approximately 0.25-0.5 s so you have that as a time window. With your ms you have 0.12-0.37 s to react. Which means 120 to 370 milliseconds for your brain to comprehend what your eye is seeing and sending the corresponding response to your hands. That's not that bad. (Note don't know what the actual numbers are, I'm just guessing based on experience, real numbers may be quite off, also different from projectile to projectile due to different range and speed) There was a really interesting article Rito made about ping relevancy to League. I'll try to find it off my browser history.
Catchdown (EUW)
: May I suggest this guy on twitch. twitch.tv/valkrin/profile This guy has the most educational stream possible, and even as a challenger, I can still learn some stuff from time to time. It's by far the best stream if you want to learn and educate your thought process. Kudos! :D
Will check a stream of his asap. Thanks for the suggestion, really hope it'll help me out. If it helped a Challenger learn some new things, I am pretty sure it has a lot more to offer to me :D
kurnubego (EUNE)
: Avarage is around silver IV. Your fake humbleness can sound rather insulting to many ppl.
You seem to have missunderstood. I am sorry for the way I put it leading to that. I had it in my mind in a wrong way, meaning that there are 5 "big" divisions (apart from Master/Challenger) and Platinum is the 4th, putting it right after the middle tier. But the distribution of people per Tier is nothing close to that. It's not fake humbleness, it's an honest mistake. Don't rush to assume the worst about people. :\ I'm sorry for the mistake and thank you for bringing it to my attention, pointing out how it can disturb people :)
Catchdown (EUW)
: Stop right here. You are saying p3 is just above average? More like top 5% It's not bad at all. Go watch streams to improve further, it'll help, trust me :)
Well, actually I reached P3 100LP with a Support that flamed me since pulling Gromp for jungler (I main ADC), got frustrated and got back to P5 in less than 3 days. Stayed there with crappy MMR for ever. So P3 is just peak league, maybe I just got there by luck, I mostly stayed on P5. Still, you're right about it not being just above average, I just had it like that in my mind because Gold is the middle division, but the distribution in the ranks is not even. At all. So my bad on that. But I'm not considered top Summoner either. I actually watch streams and prefer educative streams like Krepo's or NIghtblue3's where they always give advice. Especially Krepo always explains his strategic decisions again and again even if he already did in an earlier game, letting you understand the way he thinks and acts. Still, I haven't had any great improvement doing that. Thank you for your time and your answer! :D
Saryn (EUW)
: A good advice is this(maybe the best) watch replays of your games, play less, watch replays more, try and figure what you could have done better in those games and learn from them.. Even tho its a boring process many people say the pay off is huge! Try it out.. Also checkout redmercy videos about how to improve and watch some videos.. My best friend have a similar problem to yours.. He was playing since season 2 and he was silver 5 when season 5 ended.. He sucks in most of the mmorpg games and he is a garbage in mobas.. But he is really good in shooter games.. But maybe you are also good in lol and you got a little problem the way you play and you cant see it, maybe you play way to aggressive or way to passive, its pretty hard to improve in league of legends tho nowdays.. Most important: Have fun
Thank you for your advice, I will try to watch some replays to help find some details that show what I do wrong and figure out how to improve. I record games anyway because sometimes I pull off some crazy plays on a good day and I've made 1-2 montages of it, but mostly it's just bad performance. So I already have the program and some footage to work with Again, thank you for your answer and your time :D I will do my best to have fun ^_^
Declined (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Black Baron,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=mr8E2Vxb,comment-id=0037,timestamp=2016-02-07T01:43:04.089+0000) > > I came here hoping there's something I might be missing, something that justifies how I can have 5k Normal Games and 1k Ranked Games and still be just Platinum... Turns out I just suck in some other way... > > Great thread, though, thank you for your time and effort to construct this. There are a lot of topics I didn't get into or elaborate on. For instance the better you become, your understanding of where the limit of your abilities lie as well. This difference in knowledge set you apart from golds and silvers, it also means you KNOW you can take objectives, rotate, gank, with a greatly improved decision making. Or to explain it with but a few simple words: Higher tiers act, lower tiers sit around before realizing what it means to close games. On top of that comes mind games, learn to read your opponents, so you can guard yourself from ganks, intimidate people from taking objectives, dodge skillshots before they even throw them, lure them into traps and so on. Example: I enjoy toying with Blitz players when I'm playing Zyra, when they telegraph their intent, I root them and make sure to plant seeds right as they get ready to grab, that way their grab will hit the plant. It may look simple but it is all about reading your opponent and timing it. You can try the psychological aspect, if you can convince your team mates to relax and cooperate you're improving their potential and your chances significantly, all you have to is be social in a friendly manner. There are a lot of these tricks you can apply, so worry about improving and understanding the finer details then you'll reach diamond in no time. You're on EUNE, add me sometime so I can spectate and figure out what goes on in your mind when you play.
Thanks for the additional info and tips. Actually, reading my opponents intention is something I've mastered as I used to play ADC with ~120 permaping, (didn't drop lower) the delay is signifigant in seeing the skillshot and reacting, so I learnt the CD of most usual enemies by heart predict-juking or even predict flashing in more risky situations a skillshot that would destroy the trade before the casting time even initiated. I think my problem lies in the way I interact with people and situations as I get really really stressed and do stupid mistakes. Explains why my performance fluctuates this much either carrying the game or having teamates think that I'm boosted. I added you, thank you for doing this, it means a lot to me :)
Declined (EUNE)
: A Guide to Understanding the Dynamics of Bot Lane.
I came here hoping there's something I might be missing, something that justifies how I can have 5k Normal Games and 1k Ranked Games and still be just Platinum... Turns out I just suck in some other way... Great thread, though, thank you for your time and effort to construct this.
Saryn (EUW)
: I dont wanna sound bad but League is not for everyone, maybe you are not so good in league and you are good in other games.. If you think you are bad and you are doing something wrong and wanna improve, change your tactics and the way you play the game, checkout some youtube videos and get some ideas..
I understand your thinking and I agree that maybe I can't get any better, I just don't have what it takes for this game. It's a logical assumption to make based on the facts. I watch LCS and some streams to follow advice and mimic tactics and mainly understand the thinking behind decisions. I got up to Gold into Season 3 playing my own way and improving. After that I started following mainstream tactics and builds and picks that got me up to Plat but that's all. Maybe I'm missing an important and necessary part of the way better people think, I don't know what the hell is wrong with me. I'm constantly trying to improve, like blame myself and see what I could have done that would shape a game differently and find a fault on me. So far it's just small improvements that don't help a lot. I got some good moments, where I do everything correct and pull off a good play on top of that. But when I do bad, I do reaaaally bad. I have fluctuating performance. Getting stressed or frustrated ruins everything. So ye I guess it's just that League is not for everyone, even if that one spent 5 years trying to become better and better...
Xevestos (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Black Baron,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=UAAAu2jj,comment-id=0003000100010000,timestamp=2016-02-05T15:04:02.418+0000) > > How do you mean "one part of the game"? like PvPing or Objective taking? Or a role, like knowing ADC or jungle? > > I thought about that to be honest, but I was worried it'd be a waste of money if I just can't improve, if I don't have what it takes... I'm gonna consider it. No like mechanical ot strategic skill. Till d3 u can only concentrste on one, I went for good timing with mechanical skill. If u master 1 or 2 parts of the game u can more easily learn the other parts cause u are instinctively using what you've mastered and don't have to think about it.
Interesting... I'll try that out, I think the hardest part for me will be finding and isolating one part to work on. Thank you so much for your valuable feedback, it helps a lot.
: Normal games mean nothing bro. Also, you being Platinum means you are way above the average player anyways. So don't worry. > [{quoted}](name=Black Baron,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=UAAAu2jj,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-02-04T22:15:19.248+0000) > > How is it possible for someone to have spent this many hours playing the game and still be just above average performance? Well it highly depends WHY you are playing this game: to have fun, or to improve. And let's be honest, we don't always play to improve ... sometimes we just want to have some fun _(Normals)._ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccU4y15XQ9Y
Hmm I've heard about that before, that it's about ranked games and not normal games. And the fun part is the only seaosn I tried playing more ranked than normal games is the only season I didn't make it to the next Tier. I *was* actively trying to improve, epsecially the past year. I agree with what n3ac3y is saying about players that need more quality improving gametime to climb the ladder. But I think based on the facts of the time I've spent on the game trying to become better that I'd propably just be the case he mentions at 3.30 if he met me ingame. Thanks for the help though :) I'll just try to remember that Platinum means way above the average player :)
: You know plat 3 is like top 5-10% easy. Being at the top 10% of the ladder is no joke, it means you're a really good player. Most MMOs with PVP systems use the top 10% of the ladder for the cut off point for the lower end of season rewards (top like 1% getting the higher end stuff) so really, you're doing better than most of us. If you want to consider yourself as "elite" you'd need to get to like diamond IV and over.
Well, that way of looking into it helps, but I just think it means I'm a really good player relatively to the average. Objectively, I do stupid mistakes and sometime feed even Silver people making my teamates doubt the way I got to my league. After a certain point, this kinda starts getting to you, even if you made it to the "top 10%" by your hard work and efforts. Thanks for pointing out the different way of looking at it though :) Also, one of my main concerns wasn't that I'm not good enough, but that I stopped progressing and improving while there's a hell lot of room to do so. Sure, taking a look at what I've achieved and where I'm standing is cool, but still I'm afraid this is my skill cap. Do you think skill cap is a thing? That everyone has a top tier they can get no matter how hard they try?
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