VIT Laati (EUNE)
: HI LM ZOE, will you marry me?
Too bad this reverse psychology doesn't work on me, have your downvote ;D
Smerk (EUW)
: Millions of players, do you really think it can be done fast?
> [{quoted}](name=Smerk,realm=EUW,application-id=yTagKVTg,discussion-id=VQNqh3o2,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-13T22:53:42.240+0000) > > Millions of players, do you really think it can be done fast? It is an automated system, all the rewards can be basically given at the press of a button.
Daymjo (EUW)
: Given enough games, you'll reach the 50-50 mark. Or 51-49 if you're the consistently improving type who hasn't hit his ceiling yet. Even the highest rated pros rarely have over 55% winrate. That means that 45% of the time they get outplayed. Probably not as hard as your ahri but yeah. And again, I am not advocating for flaming at all. I'm just pointing out that there's a difference between being outplayed and losing the lane. You're going to get outplayed, often, and then it falls on your teammates to help you win the lane. I'm advocating for taking responsibility for being outplayed but not having to take full responsibility for losing the lane. There are other factors at play than the 1v1. Whether or not this applies to your singular game is unknown to me.
> [{quoted}](name=Daymjo,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=tW98gyRg,comment-id=00040000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-15T19:30:37.745+0000) > > Given enough games, you'll reach the 50-50 mark. Or 51-49 if you're the consistently improving type who hasn't hit his ceiling yet. Even the highest rated pros rarely have over 55% winrate. That means that 45% of the time they get outplayed. Probably not as hard as your ahri but yeah. > > And again, I am not advocating for flaming at all. I'm just pointing out that there's a difference between being outplayed and losing the lane. You're going to get outplayed, often, and then it falls on your teammates to help you win the lane. I'm advocating for taking responsibility for being outplayed but not having to take full responsibility for losing the lane. There are other factors at play than the 1v1. Whether or not this applies to your singular game is unknown to me. In a fair numeriacal sittuation, one is completely responsible for winning/losing the lane. However, losing or winning the game is not defined by individual responsability, but as a team.
Daymjo (EUW)
: > In that case YOU DON'T FLAME, if your enemy is stronger than yourself, it is not for anyone to be blamed except yourself! If your post was about not flaming, then I agree. However, from what I understand, the jist of it was that 'if you lose your lane it's all your fault' , which is where I disagree. > Once again, that's no reason to flame no matter who's responsible for what. The blame is distributed equally throughout the team for the OVERALL team performance. However! You cannot blame your jungler for losing 1 vs 1 (if you're bad enough to get outplayed, then the jungler should focus on a lane with carry potential). You cannot blame your support for being 5/0/0 if you're basically drooling while rightclicking for CS, and he's doing all the job. You simply cannot use ALL chat to flame anyone that ganks you and say "fkin' camper". Again, I'm not advocating for flaming, I don't know where you got that from. If your point was 'don't flame' for any reason, I agree. But you're missing the fact that you don't have to be 'bad enough' to get outplayed, you're GOING to get outplayed literally half of the time if you are at your respective MMR, because literally half of the enemies you meet are better than you. Therefore, once it becomes clear that you are being outplayed, the rest of the team should react to balance it out. Yes, it's common sense to focus on the lane with carry potential, but that doesn't mean letting your mid rot away for 12 minutes. Even on a losing lane, I'm pretty sure you can find SOME kill potential at least once or twice in 12 minutes. > What are you even talking about? What's to be rotated when she died 3 times in under 8 minutes? When she was 0-3 she was flaming as %%%% the jungler, we all told her to calm down! And when the minute 12 arrived, we proposed to swap lanes, as our opponents were tilted. She said "i go afk" and disconnected from the game. > If you have a better approach of dealing with a mentally unstable person other than trying to be nice, let me know about it. There's a lot of factors that can be at play here. Did she ask for a gank in those 8 minutes? Probably, otherwise she wouldn't flame the jungler so hard. Well then, actually ganking her lane might have helped. You, as the support, helping pressure mid instead of going back after a kill might have helped as well. Also, really? You told a tilted guy in LoL to 'calm down' and he didn't calm down? Has your girlfriend ever raged at you and you told her to calm down? How did that go for you? Did you also call her mentally unstable because she didn't calm down when you told her to? Again, I'm not defending her actions, just arguing with your conclusion that her losing the lane was entirely her fault. You're gonna lose your lane 50% of the time and that's statistically factual. It's no one's FAULT, it's just life. Most of the times you lose a game of ping-pong, it's not because it was YOUR FAULT, your opponent was simply better, and that's normal. In those cases, it's up to your teammates to help you turn the tides in your favor. > I'm a support OTP as well, but the difference between us is that you finished Gold 5, and i've finished Diamond 5. And that's due my judgement calls and the ability to deal with players like Ahri, otherwise i would rot in low elo with my account on the verge of getting banned, I'd say I did pretty well for my first ranked season, and I'm still climbing, it's okay. But you're right, I'm sorry, I'll stop having an opinion until I reach Diamond. Meanwhile I'll stand idly by, waiting for a master's to chime in, I'm sure you'll consider your opinions to be as inferior to his as mine are to yours, because he's higher rated...
> [{quoted}](name=Daymjo,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=tW98gyRg,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2018-11-15T18:51:43.660+0000) >waiting for a master's to chime in, I'm sure you'll consider your opinions to be as inferior to his as mine are to yours, because he's higher rated... Umm, i don't think it's elo related to agree on the fact that if you're doing bad you should take responsability for it and not flame. Any elo would agree with that, if it has a slightly bit of common sense. > Did she ask for a gank in those 8 minutes? I wouldn't count a "come f#####g gank mid" as a request, but a demand, i don't deal with demands. >Well then, actually ganking her lane might have helped. You, as the support, helping pressure mid instead of going back after a kill For every action there is a reaction. If i would've left the lane as Leona, to gank a losing 1vs1 mid, then the time would've been wasted, zed has a solid escape, and counting on someone that is 3/0... well, you keep doing that, i say no thanks. The chain reaction would've been to get myself flamed by the adc for leaving the lane :), if you catch my drift. >her losing the lane was entirely her fault BUT IT WAS, she lost 1 vs 1, nobody told her ANYTHING to upset her, by contrary, we offered solutions, and she left after flaming. Do you have a blindfold attached or something, just curious xD, seems like you've read through 10% of the main post, and seem to have the "it must be something else" mentality type lulz. >Has your girlfriend ever raged at you and you told her to calm down? How did that go for you? Did you also call her mentally unstable because she didn't calm down when you told her to? I never gave any of my girlfriends a reason to rage me at, lulz. However, i've dumped a lot of mentally unstable females, for obsessive behaviour n' stuff, but that's a topic for another day. >you're GOING to get outplayed literally half of the time if you are at your respective MMR, because literally half of the enemies you meet are better than you No, you won't, if you're stuck on a 50/50 winrate then you won't climb. Wanna get satisfactory facts? Check my op.gg see how many games people are doing better than me, but that's not the point. The point is: You suck? Then swallow it, don't blame it on others, espcially when they are friendly and offer solutions.
mez007 (EUW)
: this game is dying
> [{quoted}](name=mez007,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=K9iNkgAI,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-15T18:22:19.650+0000) > > this game is dying If by dying you mean toxic players leaving, then i accept this death. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
Breakhz (EUNE)
: Well ofc its your fault too..No 1 is perfect and sometimes you play bad yourself. But you cant always blame yourself for the mistakes your team do. I got many games like this getting someone like jgl and sayng "my team bad they dont help me river" Then the guy start afk farm all game and blame his team.There is no 1 fault you got caught or something so i cant blame myself cuz you rage quit.. In the end its team game.
> [{quoted}](name=Breakhz,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=tW98gyRg,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-11-15T17:04:25.465+0000) > > Well ofc its your fault too..No 1 is perfect and sometimes you play bad yourself. > > But you cant always blame yourself for the mistakes your team do. > > I got many games like this getting someone like jgl and sayng "my team bad they dont help me river" > > Then the guy start afk farm all game and blame his team.There is no 1 fault you got caught or something so i cant blame myself cuz you rage quit.. > > In the end its team game. I do have bad days, but those days i'm definitely not 0/15/0, i'm not blaming anyone on the chat and i don't ragequit games. I'm just punching walls.
Daymjo (EUW)
: 'Conclusion: I tend to see more and more people thinking the team is the issue, when in reality, they're the only reason the team is doing bad. If you're unable to win your lane in a fair sittuation, which is 1 vs 1, then it's only yourself to be blamed if you cannot win, not the jungler, not the support, not anyone else. Sometimes the team is better off without you.' It is in human nature to assume that you're right and everyone else messed up. However, even though most of mid gameplay is 1v1, the responsibility for the outcome of the mid lane is equally shared between 3 players. (numbers out of my a$$ incoming) 50% to the mid, 30% to the jgl, 20% to the support. Let's take your game and suppose ahri is losing her mid lane, not because she got counter picked or because she got camped, but because the enemy mid is simply better than her. Not only does it happen, in fact, it happens roughly 50% of the time. From hereon out, the responsibility for the outcome of the lane falls into the jungler's hands. A single intervention, even if it only results in a good trade and not in a kill, can turn the tide and allow your mid to progress into the later stages of the game. The natural result, in a relatively balanced matchup, is that the enemy jungler will try to counter-gank to even things out, and from thereon out, the responsibility for the outcome of the lane falls onto the support, who, in that case, should be roaming in order to help his mid succeed. I'm a support OTP so my experience in your scenario is limited, but what happens to me, for example, is that we'll lose bot from time to time, or sometimes even win it but rotate a bit, and end up in a situation where we're in danger of losing the first turret bot, because we died, or we weren't there, or we're simply getting outclassed. More often than not, the turret will simply fall, and if our teammates are particularly toxic, they will start to rage at us or flame us. The reality, however, is that once it was clear that the turret will be heavily pressured, the responsibility for defending it, like in your case, is passed onto the jungler primarily, and secondarily to the mid. Consequently, if the turret falls, the blame is distributed equally. I can concede that we, the bot lane, got rekt, but that doesn't explain why we lost the objective. If we lose 2v2, the rest of the team should rotate in such a way to balance it out. And as a support, I try to do this consistently, though my adc's (in gold) rarely understand. I always keep mid in mind, and have my eyes on the minimap, and my thoughts on how the river is warded by the enemy and when I can roam to assist. Furthermore, another aspect is managing your team's psychological welfare, an aspect very underrated in general. If you went 5-0 in bot it doesn't necessarily warrant your ahri going 0-3 in mid. Maybe it would have been better if you only went 1-0 in bot, but then you rotated mid much more often, resulting in Ahri going 1-1 instead. Strategically speaking, it's better for your bot to snowball even at the cost of your mid. However, if the strategy leads to your mid tilting and afk-ing or inting, or even just being super mad and playing really poorly the rest of the game, it might simply not be worth it. This being said, yeah, often times people who underperform tend to blame others. Then again, people who perform well blame others too. It's just human nature.
> [{quoted}](name=Daymjo,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=tW98gyRg,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-11-15T16:32:35.898+0000) > >Let's take your game and suppose ahri is losing her mid lane, not because she got counter picked or because she got camped, but because the enemy mid is simply better than her. Not only does it happen, in fact, it happens roughly 50% of the time. From hereon out, the responsibility for the outcome of the lane falls into the jungler's hands. A single intervention, even if it only results in a good trade and not in a kill, can turn the tide and allow your mid to progress into the later stages of the game. The natural result, in a relatively balanced matchup, is that the enemy jungler will try to counter-gank to even things out, and from thereon out, the responsibility for the outcome of the lane falls onto the support, who, in that case, should be roaming in order to help his mid succeed. In that case YOU DON'T FLAME, if your enemy is stronger than yourself, it is not for anyone to be blamed except yourself! >I'm a support OTP so my experience in your scenario is limited, but what happens to me, for example, is that we'll lose bot from time to time, or sometimes even win it but rotate a bit, and end up in a situation where we're in danger of losing the first turret bot, because we died, or we weren't there, or we're simply getting outclassed. More often than not, the turret will simply fall, and if our teammates are particularly toxic, they will start to rage at us or flame us. The reality, however, is that once it was clear that the turret will be heavily pressured, the responsibility for defending it, like in your case, is passed onto the jungler primarily, and secondarily to the mid. Consequently, if the turret falls, the blame is distributed equally. I can concede that we, the bot lane, got rekt, but that doesn't explain why we lost the objective. If we lose 2v2, the rest of the team should rotate in such a way to balance it out. Once again, that's no reason to flame no matter who's responsible for what. The blame is distributed equally throughout the team for the OVERALL team performance. However! You cannot blame your jungler for losing 1 vs 1 (if you're bad enough to get outplayed, then the jungler should focus on a lane with carry potential). You cannot blame your support for being 5/0/0 if you're basically drooling while rightclicking for CS, and he's doing all the job. You simply cannot use ALL chat to flame anyone that ganks you and say "fkin' camper". You seem to miss the essence of this post. >Furthermore, another aspect is managing your team's psychological welfare, an aspect very underrated in general. If you went 5-0 in bot it doesn't necessarily warrant your ahri going 0-3 in mid. Maybe it would have been better if you only went 1-0 in bot, but then you rotated mid much more often, resulting in Ahri going 1-1 instead. Strategically speaking, it's better for your bot to snowball even at the cost of your mid. However, if the strategy leads to your mid tilting and afk-ing or inting, or even just being super mad and playing really poorly the rest of the game, it might simply not be worth it. What are you even talking about? What's to be rotated when she died 3 times in under 8 minutes? When she was 0-3 she was flaming as %%%% the jungler, we all told her to calm down! And when the minute 12 arrived, we proposed to swap lanes, as our opponents were tilted. She said "i go afk" and disconnected from the game. If you have a better approach of dealing with a mentally unstable person other than trying to be nice, let me know about it. >I'm a support OTP I'm a support OTP as well, but the difference between us is that you finished Gold 5, and i've finished Diamond 5. And that's due my judgement calls and the ability to deal with players like Ahri, otherwise i would rot in low elo with my account on the verge of getting banned,
DarkG0d (EUNE)
: Look ,you need to understand something . they do not matter. why do you care if you get flamed by some random guy/gal over a game? once the game is over he will forget about you. why do you still remember them and ruin your game? mute or not just stop caring abotu what they say it does not define your personality or skill. Enjoy your game. let them flame and do whatever. have your fun let them rage.
> [{quoted}](name=DarkG0d,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=0EhwzET5,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-15T15:51:32.082+0000) > > Look ,you need to understand something . they do not matter. why do you care if you get flamed by some random guy/gal over a game? > once the game is over he will forget about you. why do you still remember them and ruin your game? mute or not just stop caring abotu what they say > it does not define your personality or skill. Enjoy your game. let them flame and do whatever. have your fun let them rage. I couldn't say it better myself!
mez007 (EUW)
: if you have in your team 1 afk & 1 troller & 1 noob & 1 feeder . WHAT DO YOU DO ? the only thing youre doing is remove the game :D
> [{quoted}](name=mez007,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=tW98gyRg,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-11-15T14:20:17.997+0000) > > if you have in your team 1 afk & 1 troller & 1 noob & 1 feeder . WHAT DO YOU DO ? > the only thing youre doing is remove the game :D "troller" ok, i can't even take you seriously right now, sorry :] .
jakoep (EUW)
: Show Bard some LOVE <3
What about my green buddy Ivern :'( he hasn't got a single skin since it's release.
JenShen (EUNE)
: I don't know why this fuzz about normal games, they are way easy. People that cry about normal games are usually ultra bad. it is not so hard to win 4vs5 in normals, because usually normal games are for people that want to try champs, build and so on and most of the time they wont do 100% of their skill because in normal games you basically lose nothing. you are all chill and stuff cuz it is normal and most of the people do not give a damn about normal games, but in ranked the situation is different. i just hope the boards do not fill with how people are chilled in normal and aram games and how every thing is " it is your fault" I do not really see the purpose of this post, it is something like "hey guys, i am chill in normal games and we won 4vs5" it is not something new or innovative, people can flame and still win 4vs5 games.
> [{quoted}](name=JenShen,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=tW98gyRg,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-11-15T12:54:01.522+0000) > > I don&#x27;t know why this fuzz about normal games, they are way easy. People that cry about normal games are usually ultra bad. > > it is not so hard to win 4vs5 in normals, because usually normal games are for people that want to try champs, build and so on and most of the time they wont do 100% of their skill because in normal games you basically lose nothing. > > you are all chill and stuff cuz it is normal and most of the people do not give a damn about normal games, but in ranked the situation is different. > > i just hope the boards do not fill with how people are chilled in normal and aram games and how every thing is &quot; it is your fault&quot; > > I do not really see the purpose of this post, it is something like &quot;hey guys, i am chill in normal games and we won 4vs5&quot; it is not something new or innovative, people can flame and still win 4vs5 games. From my point of view, normal games are way more toxic than ranked ones, at least in my elo range. I don't know what to believe about your comment tho, you seem to contradict yourself, and by that i mean you're claiming people don't care about normals, yet they flame harder than ranked ( if one doesn't care then why bother flaming or tilting?). And just to be clear, if i wasn't chill in ranked as well, i wouldn't be here to talk about it (i would be permanently banned). The point of this post is that one shouldn't tilt, flip the table or start flaming when stuff isn't going as he likes, whether is Ranked, ARAM or Normals. :) mostly because he's not right about any shit, it's just self frustration due failure to self validate.
: I never said that my account was banned nor honor being about carry. But if you carry, you get more honors. I only stated that because I was saying my friend doesn't get that many honors Furthermore, yes I said I am toxic, but not that type of "F*** Y**" or anything really offensive. The worst thing I recall saying is something about my jungler be a bronze player (I'm not that much better omegalul) because he was taking red with J4 at 40 minutes and not letting me get it as a sivir or saying something like "stop talking and play kid". I don't get how something like that, in like 1 out of 5 games, **if that much**, could stop me from getting higher Honor level when I often see Honor 4/5 players saying really offensive slurs and yeah, high Honor still with them. (I'm talking about my friend xd)
> [{quoted}](name=ProbGonnaCarry,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=8Exmbplf,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-11-15T11:12:36.814+0000) > > I never said that my account was banned nor honor being about carry. > But if you carry, you get more honors. > I only stated that because I was saying my friend doesn&#x27;t get that many honors > Furthermore, yes I said I am toxic, but not that type of &quot;F*** Y**&quot; or anything really offensive. > The worst thing I recall saying is something about my jungler be a bronze player (I&#x27;m not that much better omegalul) because he was taking red with J4 at 40 minutes and not letting me get it as a sivir or saying something like &quot;stop talking and play kid&quot;. > I don&#x27;t get how something like that, in like 1 out of 5 games, **if that much**, could stop me from getting higher Honor level when I often see Honor 4/5 players saying really offensive slurs and yeah, high Honor still with them. (I&#x27;m talking about my friend xd) That's a false assumption, i am a support main, i barely carry and i have honor 5, both this season and the last. People tend to Honor the most silent player in the team :) , or those who use the chat for constructive sentences. I am generally honoring the team mate with the right mindset, i don't really care how much you carry if you're a flaming keg on that chat or if you make bad macro calls.
: My behavior
Honor doesn't reflect your potential to carry, but the potential to be tiltproof when the game is not going according to the plan. And... being toxic in 1 out of 5 games is pretty often! There's people around that are not toxic even once in 3000 games. So many of you choose to be toxic over a player that you'll never see again, at the cost of getting your account banned. It doesn't make much sense. {{sticker:sg-poppy}}
DarkG0d (EUNE)
: I am going off topic but its refreshing to see a positive post for once in this places. have a good day man. keep up your tilt proof attitude
> [{quoted}](name=DarkG0d,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=tW98gyRg,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-15T09:54:29.116+0000) > > I am going off topic but its refreshing to see a positive post for once in this places. > have a good day man. keep up your tilt proof attitude {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
Rioter Comments
: Milk the cow *while you can*
Ah, another individual that thinks the game is dead without him. Luv it! {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
NivelDios (EUNE)
: TUTORIAL should be Improved !
Good stuff, as long as this won't prevent you from playing normal games, i see no harm.
Derulo (EUNE)
: No, no, just log on and you get everything {{summoner:31}}
> [{quoted}](name=Derulo,realm=EUNE,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=g85GrjiE,comment-id=0008000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-14T20:48:28.841+0000) > > No, no, just log on and you get everything {{summoner:31}} Cheers big fella!
Derulo (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=CJXander,realm=EUNE,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=g85GrjiE,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2018-11-14T20:01:38.012+0000) > > A mission will appear as soon as your account has been granted the rewards. > And what is the mission about? Logging into your account. > > Hold on a sec? So we won&#x27;t get the stuff automatically into our accounts? Do we have to complete quests in order to receive the rewards we&#x27;ve already earned? What if by any chance i won&#x27;t be able to play for 6 months, does that mean i won&#x27;t get my season rewards? > > Or do you plan to make the timer infinite? Otherwise i can only see this as a huge issue, if not for myself then for the huge masses. > > {{sticker:sg-lux-2}} You quoted the mission. You just have to log on. It literally says that.
> [{quoted}](name=Derulo,realm=EUNE,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=g85GrjiE,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2018-11-14T20:40:07.730+0000) > > You quoted the mission. You just have to log on. It literally says that. I thought it meat log on to see the mission, not logging in as being the mission. It's confusing.
: My guess is mmr boosting.
> [{quoted}](name=Sidney Crosby,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=8QXP2JN0,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-11-14T19:49:16.530+0000) > > My guess is mmr boosting. Exactly my thought. After checking her profile, confirmed.
: [Helpdesk] Ranked Rewards 2018 & Ranked System 2019
>It’s going to be a little different this year. How you ask? Missions! A mission will appear as soon as your account has been granted the rewards. And what is the mission about? Logging into your account. Hold on a sec? So we won't get the stuff automatically into our accounts? Do we have to complete quests in order to receive the rewards we've already earned? What if by any chance i won't be able to play for 6 months, does that mean i won't get my season rewards? Or do you plan to make the timer infinite? Otherwise i can only see this as a huge issue, if not for myself then for the huge masses. {{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
: Considering that the guy he's playing with has been plat and dold consistently, and he himself has been plat for 3 seasons in a row as well, it's not illegal for them to play together.
> [{quoted}](name=Player3Th0mas,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=ctb6EHEw,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-11-14T18:35:19.012+0000) > > Considering that the guy he&#x27;s playing with has been plat and dold consistently, and he himself has been plat for 3 seasons in a row as well, it&#x27;s not illegal for them to play together. Never said it is illegal to duo lol, but i'm 100% sure this ban was issued for account sharing.
: Banned unfairly due to MMR Boosting?!
Seems like boosting for myself: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/7wgxfax8lkso1ey/chrome_2018-11-14_20-20-05.png Only from that alone (Gold duo with 46% winrate on ranked), but together you have 83% winrate. That smelly smell.
Vilkiss (EUNE)
: Well, it's obvious, in some cases, they just share between friends, not actually "boosting" , i mean, what's wrong in that,some people just tend to do so... and it's rather stupid to take that right from them... BUT then, boosting a player then leaving him in high elo so he can ruin the quality of future matches, when he has no actual experience whatsoever is again, a bad thing.
> [{quoted}](name=Vilkiss,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=ZJbHdF5f,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-14T17:35:54.487+0000) > > Well, it&#x27;s obvious, in some cases, they just share between friends, not actually &quot;boosting&quot; , i mean, what&#x27;s wrong in that,some people just tend to do so... and it&#x27;s rather stupid to take that right from them... BUT then, boosting a player then leaving him in high elo so he can ruin the quality of future matches, when he has no actual experience whatsoever is again, a bad thing. But that's exactly what she does! She's a silver/gold player. And she's ruining Plat/Diamond games. And no, no matter your reason, it is against the Terms to share account even with your blood siblings.
: Let's make a little wager, shall we. I just sent a VERY detailed ticket about your situation to the Riot support. If you are unpunished in 96 hours, and still active on OP.GG, I will personally write an apology here, on this thread, in response to your main post. If however, you stop being active in max 96 hours - you create a new thread, and publicly apologise for getting boosted. Deal ?
> [{quoted}](name=The Lane Police,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=ZJbHdF5f,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-11-14T17:10:35.525+0000) > > Let&#x27;s make a little wager, shall we. > > I just sent a VERY detailed ticket about your situation to the Riot support. If you are unpunished in 96 hours, and still active on OP.GG, I will personally write an apology here, on this thread, in response to your main post. > > If however, you stop being active in max 96 hours - you create a new thread, and publicly apologise for getting boosted. > > Deal ? Eh... the support center doesn't do witch hunting. I know a streamer from my country that has been sharing her account with all of her high elo friends list, she's still playing, and even more funny, she has 2 accounts that are playing together at the time and game. I wrote an email to the support center, but nothing actually happen. Was hoping for her to get banned into this wave. I've actually included Twitch footage with account sharing and her telling "ok, i'll wait you to log into my account and we play in a bit". It either takes 1 year for actions to be taken or they don't want to proceed with a punishment.
: Please perma ban this guy
Nobody from boards will ban that player. This place is ran by other players and volunteers. If you'd like to report someone, use the in-game fuction or submit a ticket via support center. Also, naming and shaming is against the forum rules. Better edit that out. {{sticker:fiora-cool}}
Vilkiss (EUNE)
: How can i even try
What about the other 3 games you won in a row, you won't complain about those? Why don't you tell Rito "hey guys, im sick of playing against bad players, give me better enemies, a 3 winstreak means no balance". https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/6hez0l1gb3tw9hu/chrome_2018-11-14_18-40-14.png
Oscaimiri (EUW)
: The system make you lose, its so easy to see. Great way to make people addicted by losing.. Thats why league is so toxic. Btw im sick of their TOU - you cant even tell someone to stfu or telling them that they should play blind pick with new champs before entering ranked. I got 14 days ban one time for that hahaha. But AGAIN, they want u to get banned, so you can start all over again :D - just waiting for WoW classic, never looking back to this trash game again.. (only if they make it season 3;)
> [{quoted}](name=Oscaimiri,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=kGihTEEu,comment-id=00020002,timestamp=2018-11-14T16:24:23.472+0000) > > The system make you lose, its so easy to see. Great way to make people addicted by losing.. Thats why league is so toxic. > > Btw im sick of their TOU - you cant even tell someone to stfu or telling them that they should play blind pick with new champs before entering ranked. I got 14 days ban one time for that hahaha. But AGAIN, they want u to get banned, so you can start all over again :D > > - just waiting for WoW classic, never looking back to this trash game again.. (only if they make it season 3;) Good luck with your future endeavors https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/ota09uxhnrmd32n/496367680773685248.png
Oscaimiri (EUW)
: Its a shit system. If u have 100 more cs than enemy everygame and clearly better, the systems shouldnt force u to play with bad players on ur team, but just rank you up, until u meet the same players.
> [{quoted}](name=Oscaimiri,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=kGihTEEu,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-11-14T15:56:43.795+0000) > > Its a shit system. If u have 100 more cs than enemy everygame and clearly better, the systems shouldnt force u to play with bad players on ur team, but just rank you up, until u meet the same players. But the system should allow you to play vs BAD players, right? Ha! I think next season you should consider some tutorials regarding macro gameplay, decision making and obviously refrain yourself from flaming or trashtalking. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
: It cant be cause there are 2 totally different things.
> [{quoted}](name=I am Legendaddy,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=8xuj6ugx,comment-id=0000000100000001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-14T15:53:00.282+0000) > > It cant be cause there are 2 totally different things. How is it not? Tell me one real life or virtual life sittuation where you're forgiven at the first offense you're a total douchebag or break the rules? Will the police take away your driver license if you speed up with 200 kmph in a 50 area for the first time? YES Will you get fined/banned if you steal for the first time from a store? YES Will you make your computer burn in you spill water on the CPU while running for the first time? YES Will someone smack you in the face if you swear at him randomly in the public for the first time ? YES Why are you so convinced anyone will forgive you in any of these sittuations just because it's your first time? How are these different things since both involve the violation of a conduct? Are you really under the impression you can do w/e tf you want on the internet just because it is internet? When you press "Accept Terms" you basically agree with all of their terms and conditions, and even if you're a veteran player from BETA, wishing someone a disease or constantly calling him trash in game, won't save you "just because". A clear violation of the rules is violation, drill this into your head already, if you wanna be taken seriously from further on. Otherwise keep believeing what you do, and keep getting them banned accounts stacked. {{sticker:sg-ahri-1}}
Oscaimiri (EUW)
: MMR vs the new ranked system in season 9
Eh? How is 50% not fair? It's the number of a perfect balance. As long as there will be 2 teams playing vs eachother it is mathematically impossible to have have one half with 70% winrate and other half with 30% winrate, otherwise it shouldn't be called a half (which stands for 50%).
: The comparison you make cant stand. We are talking about a game, we are talking about behaviours. You cant compare these 2 things. You didnt kill someone. Someone got insulted in a VIDEO GAME. Stop comparing apples with UFO's. Come on.
> [{quoted}](name=I am Legendaddy,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=8xuj6ugx,comment-id=00000001000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-14T13:36:12.212+0000) > > The comparison you make cant stand. We are talking about a game, we are talking about behaviours. You cant compare these 2 things. You didnt kill someone. Someone got insulted in a VIDEO GAME. Stop comparing apples with UFO&#x27;s. Come on. Sorry, but it is the same principle, whether you like it or not, for every online game in this world.
: It's actually easy to find out, but if your stats are really bad in comparison to your 'smurf' friend and players in your current elo, then how is it not elo boosting?It goes to show that THAT person is getting carried aka eloboosting by MMR. I have sent multiple reports and banned out players that admitted to elo boost or are elo boosted in private chat. When 2 players Duo and both play decently ,meaning their stats are average or above average then that is valid DuoQ. But suddenly your stats are bad while your DuoQ is doing great, will flag you as getting boosted by DuoQ. It can't really go simpler than that. I agree that this is a sensitive grey area, but it's a RULE that can be bent according to their own suspicions.
> [{quoted}](name=inFamous Zion,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=1d44etvT,comment-id=00020001000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-14T14:01:40.409+0000) > > It&#x27;s actually easy to find out, but if your stats are really bad in comparison to your &#x27;smurf&#x27; friend and players in your current elo, then how is it not elo boosting?It goes to show that THAT person is getting carried aka eloboosting by MMR. I have sent multiple reports and banned out players that admitted to elo boost or are elo boosted in private chat. > > When 2 players Duo and both play decently ,meaning their stats are average or above average then that is valid DuoQ. But suddenly your stats are bad while your DuoQ is doing great, will flag you as getting boosted by DuoQ. It can&#x27;t really go simpler than that. > > I agree that this is a sensitive grey area, but it&#x27;s a RULE that can be bent according to their own suspicions. As far as i know, i haven't heard a single case where one egirl was banned for playing DuoQ with her challenger eboy. I know countless people that are doing this, even on twitch, as long as you DON'T PAY for boosting services, riot would never ban you if you've taken your girlfriend from silver to diamond VIA duo, no matter what the stats are. All this wave of banning occured 100% for account sharing (elo boosting), not for duoing with someone.
: It fit perfectly for us, we hope you don't mind ;).
> [{quoted}](name=A Snarky Cyclone,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=YgZZrTwK,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2018-11-14T13:53:28.718+0000) > > It fit perfectly for us, we hope you don&#x27;t mind ;). Not at all! {{sticker:sg-lux}}
: If it's by their rules it's not 'illegal' . A transaction cannot be proven since it is not part of their game, the transaction could have happened on paypal, they can't have a history of that. But all they can have is clues that were leading up to that. i said it in previous post regarding chat logs, post and pre game chat logs are recorded but Riot has your private chat records as well which they can only look under some suspicion after reporting. If they have enough clues, they can open your private chat logs to see what you wrote regarding specific situation.
> [{quoted}](name=inFamous Zion,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=1d44etvT,comment-id=000200010000,timestamp=2018-11-14T13:40:19.379+0000) > > If it&#x27;s by their rules it&#x27;s not &#x27;illegal&#x27; . A transaction cannot be proven since it is not part of their game, the transaction could have happened on paypal, they can&#x27;t have a history of that. But all they can have is clues that were leading up to that. > > i said it in previous post regarding chat logs, post and pre game chat logs are recorded but Riot has your private chat records as well which they can only look under some suspicion after reporting. If they have enough clues, they can open your private chat logs to see what you wrote regarding specific situation. Yep, but that's less likely to happen, and ultimately absolutely hard to prove someone's been boosted through DUO, i don't think Riot would go that far into checking personal PMs. Sounds like a witch hunt, yet again there's nothing in the ToS that's forbiding you to play duo with a smurf friend. But once again, that's a really sensitive and grey area not many get the chance to experience.
Coxis (EUW)
: Ranked rewards and You - What you need to know
Really nicely structured F.A.Q. and wooo... i really didn't expected my banner to be shown here. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-rainbows}}
: 1. As for the rewards, I think it shouldnt be so harsh for someone that gets a chat restriction once in 5 years. Its a char restriction, not a 2 week ban for something else. There should be a warning that you are going towards that punishment, so people could get a chance to avoid typing anything. Which in these days its true. Anyone can get insulted by anything, so the best way to avoid a chat restriction is by typing NOTHING. 2. For the matchmaking of flex, I consider it faulted because it can match up a botlane of premade BRONZE (solo Q higher rank) vs a platinum 2 (solo Q rank). He might be also bronze in FLEX but he still is a platinum player, which makes it too easy for him to snowball from botlane and just take the game. You disagree on this?
> [{quoted}](name=I am Legendaddy,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=8xuj6ugx,comment-id=000000010000000100000000,timestamp=2018-11-14T12:54:53.467+0000) > > 1. As for the rewards, I think it shouldnt be so harsh for someone that gets a chat restriction once in 5 years. Its a char restriction, not a 2 week ban for something else. There should be a warning that you are going towards that punishment, so people could get a chance to avoid typing anything. Which in these days its true. Anyone can get insulted by anything, so the best way to avoid a chat restriction is by typing NOTHING. > > 2. For the matchmaking of flex, I consider it faulted because it can match up a botlane of premade BRONZE (solo Q higher rank) vs a platinum 2 (solo Q rank). He might be also bronze in FLEX but he still is a platinum player, which makes it too easy for him to snowball from botlane and just take the game. You disagree on this? Do you think a Judge will go easy on me if i kill or beat the shit out of someone right now? Just because i have a 26 years of clean record? No that won't happen, i'll get exactly the same punishment i deserve. Same rules apply in a videogame, it's a virtual world, you've broken their rules, therefore you got punished. A clean record is the most stupid excuse for someone to go berserk once in 5 years.
: Two things could have happened. 1) you allowed someone to play on your account therefore they elo boosted you. 2) you played with someone that elo boosts meaning someone duoq with you to carry you/elo boost you/inflate your mmr
> [{quoted}](name=inFamous Zion,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=1d44etvT,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-11-14T13:14:04.945+0000) > > Two things could have happened. > > 1) you allowed someone to play on your account therefore they elo boosted you. > > 2) you played with someone that elo boosts meaning someone duoq with you to carry you/elo boost you/inflate your mmr Duo boosting is illegal to be banned afaik, since Riot cannot prove there was a transaction between parties.
: RioT can't deal efficently with trolls because, as this kind of threads demonstrate quite clearly, there's always at least one player reported for being a troll in every game, for the simple reason that someone got to lose that game and it's 100% guarantee that someone (probably even more than one) in the losing team will swear that someone else was trolling, he lost his team the game, and therefore he deserve to be reported and punished for that. And if RioT had to ban even only 1 player for every game, LoL will be very rapidly be left without players, and die. Is that simple.
> [{quoted}](name=Sarchiapon,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=TjaYE076,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-11-14T12:30:08.915+0000) > > RioT can&#x27;t deal efficently with trolls because, as this kind of threads demonstrate quite clearly, there&#x27;s always at least one player reported for being a troll in every game, for the simple reason that someone got to lose that game and it&#x27;s 100% guarantee that someone (probably even more than one) in the losing team will swear that someone else was trolling, he lost his team the game, and therefore he deserve to be reported and punished for that. > And if RioT had to ban even only 1 player for every game, LoL will be very rapidly be left without players, and die. > > Is that simple. Riot cannot deal efficiently with trolls because, this kind of threads obviously demonstrates that most of you have no idea what a troll means.
Peroroncino (EUNE)
: MMR Boosting ban.
No you cannot, each region is dealing with their own support center. I'm pretty sure you can make up a lot of nice stories, but in the end you know what you did and the ban is well deserved.
: > [{quoted}](name=CJXander,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=TjaYE076,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-11-14T12:10:17.640+0000) > > Ah, now that i&#x27;m looking better, i see his declaration. But oh well, you cannot blame and bash him for a game that you were not a part of? The game he played with you did nothing wrong as far as i can see. is totally fu1231ing normal to do 3 9 ezreal , to don't follow your jungler when he gank and the kills are secured , is also really normal to have 3 12 score as lucian and a game before this to have 14 3 lucian , is not that obvious he troll , if he kinda do it pasive and obvious same time !
> [{quoted}](name=TheLegendBoy,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=TjaYE076,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-14T12:12:03.180+0000) > > is totally fu1231ing normal to do 3 9 ezreal , to don&#x27;t follow your jungler when he gank and the kills are secured , is also really normal to have 3 12 score as lucian and a game before this to have 14 3 lucian , is not that obvious he troll , if he kinda do it pasive and obvious same time ! 3/9/5, meaning that he killed 3 people, assisted into other 5 and died 9 times during this process. Why do most of you tend to ignore the assists? For real! Even if it was 3/9/0, that's not a score of a "troll" or "intentional feeder", 0/9/0, 0/15/0 , 0/20/0 is a score that you should be concerned about. And during your past game you had way worse scores 2/11/3 Jax 4/13/5 Jax 2/7/7 Shaco 3/12/15 Jhin Does that mean you're a troll too? And you should be banned? Get a grip of common sense mate, you're not above the others.
: > [{quoted}](name=CJXander,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=TjaYE076,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-11-14T11:57:38.775+0000) > > I don&#x27;t see how anyone is trolling based on his screenshots. Funny how people categorize offmeta picks as &quot;trolling&quot;. he claimed into chat logs that he trolled in that game , you trying to hide someone behaviour ?
> [{quoted}](name=TheLegendBoy,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=TjaYE076,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-11-14T11:58:43.501+0000) > > he claimed into chat logs that he trolled in that game , you trying to hide someone behaviour ? Ah, now that i'm looking better, i see his declaration. But oh well, you cannot blame and bash him for a game that you were not a part of? The game he played with you did nothing wrong as far as i can see.
: This is a very strong message
I don't see how anyone is trolling based on his screenshots. Funny how people categorize offmeta picks as "trolling".
Tammyart (EUW)
: if we are talking about strong enemy and weak enemy where is the balence where is the equality in this its supposed to play against ppl have same mmr and close to your elo
> [{quoted}](name=Tammyart,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=3zTFqGM7,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2018-11-14T11:02:00.506+0000) > > if we are talking about strong enemy and weak enemy where is the balence where is the equality in this its supposed to play against ppl have same mmr and close to your elo Balance? You're joking right? Do you know a team has to lose, if both are equal, how is one supposed to win? The winning team is always the stronger one, it doesn't even make sense, you lack common sense, completely. If you put 2 teams with the exactly same ammount of mmr 2000 mmr vs 2000 mmr - mid 2000 mmr vs 2000 mmr - top 2000 mmr vs 2000 mmr - jungle 2000 mmr vs 2000 mmr - support 2000 mmr vs 2000 mmr - adc Do you realize one will lose, there can't be 2 winning teams, and there can't be 2 losing teams, One will drop in MMR and the other one will rise. And the team that lost maybe did it just because one individual didn't had his coffee that morning or the cate bit his toe. There are so many factors that can determine a lose, it's not even necessarely tied to the MMR, but surroundings and state of mind.
: How am I a minority? You think I am asking for something special there just for me? I think most of the people want a better system.
> [{quoted}](name=I am Legendaddy,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=8xuj6ugx,comment-id=0000000100000001,timestamp=2018-11-14T11:22:06.134+0000) > > How am I a minority? You think I am asking for something special there just for me? I think most of the people want a better system. Well, there's always place for BETTER, but you have to be more specific about it, like concepts that work, are better and would benefit everyone, not just yourself. It is really easy to say "I want better" without giving a constructive feedback or posting a concept, right? And while better for you means better for you, it doesn't necessarely mean better for myself.
Mada (EUW)
: whenever I see someone write "trollers" I assume he's just a troll
> [{quoted}](name=Mada,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=jUUpAPx3,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-11-14T06:40:17.764+0000) > > whenever I see someone write &quot;trollers&quot; I assume he&#x27;s just a troll Haha, ikr. But i think it's simple ignorance, the plural of troll is trolls. Same goes when someone is calling me a "tryharder" when in reality it is a "try-hard" xD. I'm always responding with "no, i'm a trylesser". {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=NotActuallyBlind,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=8xuj6ugx,comment-id=000d00000000,timestamp=2018-11-14T10:06:51.026+0000) > > No. I never said I was okay with them. I said that you are attacking them for no reason. > From my point of view, YOU are looking like a toxic player that takes everything literally. > Just MUTE them and your problem isn’t solved. If they aren’t i tings though, try to win, I won a ranked game 4v5 the over day. And if they really deserve a punishment, they will get one. Trust me. What are you even talking about. Your argument contradicts itself (attacking a toxic player for no reason), first of all, i do not attack anyone whether in-game or boards. This post is not about attacking or showing compassion, you've lost the thread. {{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
: > [{quoted}](name=CJXander,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=8xuj6ugx,comment-id=00170000,timestamp=2018-11-14T09:21:32.087+0000) > > I&#x27;d rather have a flamer that i can either mute or report than someone chat restricted following me everywhere with 6 tears in his inventory :) > > {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} There could also be ranked play restrictions. That can solve the problem.
> [{quoted}](name=Creepjacked,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=8xuj6ugx,comment-id=001700000000,timestamp=2018-11-14T09:37:25.382+0000) > > There could also be ranked play restrictions. That can solve the problem. It won't, i've encountered toxic players even in bot games. Doesn't matter what game mode you're playing, toxic people will be toxic people.
: I think that banning people for flaming is wrong. I also don't like flamers in my games but I think that giving those players extended mutes based on their toxicity or behavior in-game is a better option, I personally think that this will teach them to behave a lot better than issuing them perma bans. I personally think that perma bans should be only for players who hack or do something worse than flaming.
> [{quoted}](name=Creepjacked,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=8xuj6ugx,comment-id=0017,timestamp=2018-11-14T09:15:29.438+0000) > > I think that banning people for flaming is wrong. I also don&#x27;t like flamers in my games but I think that giving those players extended mutes based on their toxicity or behavior in-game is a better option, I personally think that this will teach them to behave a lot better than issuing them perma bans. I personally think that perma bans should be only for players who hack or do something worse than flaming. I'd rather have a flamer that i can either mute or report than someone chat restricted following me everywhere with 6 tears in his inventory :) {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
Breakhz (EUNE)
: really lel.??Because even streamers said s8 was the worst shit.And its truth..But im proud you had a better season. But i think i already said "a lot of people climbed with luck this season"so ye..you maybe 1 of them and you enjoyed the season.
> [{quoted}](name=Breakhz,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=8xuj6ugx,comment-id=001400000000,timestamp=2018-11-13T22:05:47.559+0000) > > really lel.??Because even streamers said s8 was the worst shit.And its truth..But im proud you had a better season. > > But i think i already said &quot;a lot of people climbed with luck this season&quot;so ye..you maybe 1 of them and you enjoyed the season. It wasn't luck, it was a massive grind, it took me around 600 ranked games to be where i am. It got really hard around plat 1, where's the point of conflict between boosters, boostees and smurfs.
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