Zanador (EUNE)
: @Riot Flex fix and Normal Draft idea
Not to mention, people would just throw away promo games, so that they could stay in their current division because they want to be able to play with friends and family.
Zanador (EUNE)
: @Riot Flex fix and Normal Draft idea
Celebloth (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=JakiStow,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ELaNJLsb,comment-id=000300000000000000020008000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2016-11-16T15:54:59.149+0000) > > You can have an opinion, that's alright. Voicing it when it doesn't matter is being negative. > > If you're gonna stop playing, go quietly, since your opinion won't matter anymore. So we should never voice our opinion, because you think it doesn't matter? And we are being negative? I think it is pretty pessimistic to think, that our opinion doesn't matter. I still hope, that it actually does. I know you don't think that way, but that is your business. As for the stop playing, when you leave a game or a server, you generally do it quietly. But that is another issue.
> [{quoted}](name=JakiStow,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ELaNJLsb,comment-id=00030000000000000002000800000000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-11-16T17:14:45.395+0000) > > Complaining about pointless stuff is just whining. Go complain about real important things, that's what I said. Complaining and whining are not the same, just like stating an opinion. There is a difference between those words and their meanings. Also says the guy from EUW. Who has the Draft Pick as an option to play. This is pointless though, and is no longer on the topic, so for me this meaningless discussion with you is over.
JakiStow (EUW)
: You can have an opinion, that's alright. Voicing it when it doesn't matter is being negative. If you're gonna stop playing, go quietly, since your opinion won't matter anymore.
> [{quoted}](name=JakiStow,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ELaNJLsb,comment-id=000300000000000000020008000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2016-11-16T15:54:59.149+0000) > > You can have an opinion, that's alright. Voicing it when it doesn't matter is being negative. > > If you're gonna stop playing, go quietly, since your opinion won't matter anymore. So we should never voice our opinion, because you think it doesn't matter? And we are being negative? I think it is pretty pessimistic to think, that our opinion doesn't matter. I still hope, that it actually does. I know you don't think that way, but that is your business. As for the stop playing, when you leave a game or a server, you generally do it quietly. But that is another issue.
: > [{quoted}](name=Celebloth,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ELaNJLsb,comment-id=000300000000000000050000000000000000,timestamp=2016-11-15T08:55:54.882+0000) > > The problem is with this, that we wish to ban, and see the enemy team's set up. That is the reason why so many of us don't play blind pick. What you suggest is not solving that issue. It could be improving Blind Pick. But it can definetly not replace Draft Pick. I totally agree Normal Draft would be nice to have and Riot removing it was a mistake. They have indicated they want a low time untill play queue. The reason most people hate blind pick is not because you pick blindly, it are the instalockers and toxic behavour people exert when not getting their roles. We need a place where you can play champions that are usually banned. Let's protest what they removed and try to improve what we are left with. Even when we get Normal Draft back I would love to see a improved blindpick queue alongside it.
> [{quoted}](name=ZyrannosaurusJax,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ELaNJLsb,comment-id=0003000000000000000500000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-11-15T15:16:10.196+0000) > > I totally agree Normal Draft would be nice to have and Riot removing it was a mistake. They have indicated they want a low time untill play queue. The reason most people hate blind pick is not because you pick blindly, it are the instalockers and toxic behavour people exert when not getting their roles. We need a place where you can play champions that are usually banned. > Let's protest what they removed and try to improve what we are left with. Even when we get Normal Draft back I would love to see a improved blindpick queue alongside it. It is not really a blind pick anyway, you know that you will have an OP assassin against you xD Well, if I were to play with 4 total random guys, I need time to discuss the roles, and what we can play, or how that fits against the enemy team. Sadly, that 90 seconds you have in Blind Pick is not enough for any sort of discussion. It's about who loads in quicker and can spam the role he/she wants to play, and then claim he/she was the first to write it, hence it's his/hers. What I liked about Team Builder, was that you could discuss the roles and all. Though we didn't play it much, because we were always 5, and that was never a problem for us. I also liked that about the new Draft Pick, that you could select your main roles, and then had the chance to talk to the others- which was also irrelevant for me, for I always go with a full team, but still, the idea was great. But improving Blind Pick would be good as well as bringing Draft Pick back.
: Maybe you understood me wrong, remove blindpick and replace it with a draft style pick where you still can have 2 of the same champs on either team but can indicate the role you pref to play. The time to start a game is lowered since there is no ban phase and everyone has a select time to pick a champ. because there is no ban phase you do not need 16 champions but the free pool as it is now is enough. This allowes you to actually play champions that are usually banned so you can train them, mirror matchups are the "tradeoff" to this. since you do not see other team comp there is no counterpick which seems to be something blindpick people pref. you take the best things of blind pick ( play anything and quick into games) and remove the instalocking and not getting lanes you want from draft.
> [{quoted}](name=ZyrannosaurusJax,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ELaNJLsb,comment-id=00030000000000000005000000000000,timestamp=2016-11-14T23:13:00.203+0000) > > Maybe you understood me wrong, remove blindpick and replace it with a draft style pick where you still can have 2 of the same champs on either team but can indicate the role you pref to play. > The time to start a game is lowered since there is no ban phase and everyone has a select time to pick a champ. > because there is no ban phase you do not need 16 champions but the free pool as it is now is enough. > This allowes you to actually play champions that are usually banned so you can train them, mirror matchups are the "tradeoff" to this. > since you do not see other team comp there is no counterpick which seems to be something blindpick people pref. > > you take the best things of blind pick ( play anything and quick into games) and remove the instalocking and not getting lanes you want from draft. The problem is with this, that we wish to ban, and see the enemy team's set up. That is the reason why so many of us don't play blind pick. What you suggest is not solving that issue. It could be improving Blind Pick. But it can definetly not replace Draft Pick.
Almighty (EUNE)
: "We want the fewest number of queues that give unique experiences so we can keep queues healthy"
@KURNUBEGO For me blind pick is not an option, at the begining I've played it a lot, like every beginer people, but when I gained some experience and could play with my bro and friends, who had been playing it for 2 years already, since the begining, we played draft pick. It was new, and got to like it. I don't mind playing ranked (if that will be the only option left), but still comes the problem that there cannot be more than one division between the players. But I doubt that they would remove that, because they don't want people to be pulled into certain leagues, which I understand. My problem with FlexQ is, that eventually my friends, family and I will drift apart in rank (be it due to the fact, that some of us can play more games than the others and you will eventually climb higher if you play more. Thus we will no longer be able to play together anymore because of the one division difference limit. I really dislike playing alone, because I don't have much good experience in SoloQ. Anyway, I don't want to get into the whys. So for us, this move had made it impossible, to enjoy the game, and play together as we used to. Not everyone has the time to make a smurf and have all the stuff he/she has on the main account to practice for ranked. How would it hurt the people in any way, to leave the draft pick? How would that change their gaming experience if they want to play FlexQ or any other game mode?
Almighty (EUNE)
: "We want the fewest number of queues that give unique experiences so we can keep queues healthy"
This topic has gotten a bit de-railed. People giving out ideas on how to change Blind Pick as an alternative on removing Draft Pick. But that was not the issue here. Many of us have already said, that we don't want the Blind Pick removed or changed. We just want to have the Draft Pick back, because for many of us, that was/is the only option in the game. > [{quoted}](name=LuLippy,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ELaNJLsb,comment-id=0024,timestamp=2016-11-13T20:40:06.583+0000) > > Riot, why do you think ' how quick you can get a game' is this important? > > Give people the choice of : waiting 10 minutes for a decent 40 minute game Or wait 1 minute for ff20 or 40 minutes of boring/hell game. > > What do you think _the players_ pick?... If I remember correctly (and I can't find those videos of Lyte on this topic), they have implemented the Team Builder, to enhance the game experience, by letting us talk to the others, and give us time, much more than there was in Blind Pick and Draft Pick back then. Then they changed Draft Pick, now you had all the time you wanted to discuss things before the champ select. Yes, the numbers might have shown, that fewer people are playing Draft Pick than Blind Pick. But the "who" are playing each queue got completely ingored, from what I see. The server transfer is down, so You must have realised, that the people were moving to the West server, as an alternative. Do something really quickly, before it is going to be too late and once the transfer is back, the EUNE will be completely empty, and you will have to work lot harder to get the people back to this server. (But I have already listed these problem in my first post.)
: I understand, but they're obviously not bringing it back, so I guess this is kind of a okayish solution until we figure out what's gonna happen.
That would just be an upgrade to blind pick, and sadly it is not a solution to the current problem of not having the draft pick. And I don't think changing a queue like that is that easy. They might bring it back, if we are loud enough.
: Riot, how about you make blind pick with the new champ select? you choose two roles but in champ select you can't see what the enemy is picking, same as blind pick but it would solve toxicity and trolls.
> [{quoted}](name=League 0f Draven,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ELaNJLsb,comment-id=0022,timestamp=2016-11-13T16:49:14.142+0000) > > Riot, how about you make blind pick with the new champ select? you choose two roles but in champ select you can't see what the enemy is picking, same as blind pick but it would solve toxicity and trolls. The main problem with blind pick, is that you have no idea whatsoever what the enemy team is bringing, thus you can't counter them. I want to see what the enemy team is bringing, I want to ban out champoins I don't want to play against. Blind Pick is good to a certain extent. But as said before, it is not in any way a warm up for ranks. There is no need to adjust or make changes to Blind Pick to have something like Draft Pick, when we already had one. Just bring it back.
Almighty (EUNE)
: "We want the fewest number of queues that give unique experiences so we can keep queues healthy"
Last night we've been talking with my brother, what our possibilites in this could be from now on. There is no more team rank. So that is not an option. ARAM is good enough for some fun plays, but that is not the game mode we enjoy the most. We actually like to play with champs we can actually play. I have no idea, how long we haven't played Blind Pick (before you guys had actually taken it away). We like to ban certain OP champs we have absolutely no desire to play against. Naturally we could discuss the roles among us, but still, there are champions you ban. End of story. The problem with any of the ranked modes, is that they are ranked. I play this game with family and friends, and not everyone of us have the same amount of time to play this game. Every time someone played alone, will going to climb higher and higher in the ladder to a point when we will have a division between us, and won't be able to play together anymore. And this is not what we want, we want to play together, that is the fun for us, that is why we play this game. But, if they were to play these new queues, we are going to be left behind, or they will be forced to stop playing and wait till we catch up. It is not fair for anyone of us. The other option we've been talking about is to move to the West server. Which brings up several problems: -First: The ping on that server is higher, doesn't matter if I am actually sitting on the server (with 20 pings right now), it would make the game experience bad. Who wants to play with high ping and on a server, that has many problems. -Second: If the people all moved from the East to the West it will be all crowded, higher pings and all, and You guys are back at where you started, when you had made the 2 servers. Because if years ago 1 server couldn't handle the player base, how would it be able to hande now, when the population have risen so much. So you guys will have to split the region again. Which absolutely makes no sense. -Third: We don't want to create new accounts on west ( I have one, but that's not the point). I have my champs, my skins, my runes and everything on here. Would be time consuming to build it all up again. And as I have mentioned earlier, I do not have that time anymore. I am sorry, but you guys have cleary have not thought this out properly. As they've asked before, why did you not consult with the people? Why did you bother making the new draft mode then, when it is not available to everyone anymore? This game should be the same in all regions. West is over populated, and you guys are just making this situation worse. As for now, we are waiting and see what happens. Hopefully you guys will put the draft mode back once again. ps.: And make this site ergonomic please, my eyes are burning out ever since it came out.
: > [{quoted}](name=Celebloth,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=x5AnFh1R,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2015-03-10T06:53:33.257+0000) > > There is a huge difference when a friend tells that you did something wrong and a complete stranger. Whats that supposed to mean? Ill give you an example of what happened to me yesterday: Bot lane Caitlyn (me) and braum support with the enemy lane been graves and morgana. At the 5th minute braum just gets the idea to use his w to jump on a minion in between morgana and graves. Gets binded and raises his shield. I move as fast as I can cause I was out of range to try to help him. By the time I took 2-3 shots at graves braum was dead. First blood. He responds: "Well, that was not good on our part". Me: It certainly wasnt, dont try to be too agressive, just stay behind. Graves with FB and morgana is dangerous. He: Caitlyn muted for abuse. Are you kidding me? Just because I pointed out your stupid mistake and I asked you to be more carefull I suddenly am abusive? I dont care if you are softspined son but: a) Advising someone on a friendly manner IS NOT FREAKING ABUSE b)If you dont want 'strangers' to try to give you advise dont make stupid mistakes c)If you dont want 'strangers' to try to speak to you about what you are doing wrong in a CONSTRUCTIVE and FRIENDLY manner then team based games are not for you and you should withold from them. d)you egoistically put yourself above the team by acting high and not accepting correct critisism that might win you the game.
> [{quoted}](name=Immolatorgr,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=x5AnFh1R,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2015-03-11T01:29:32.353+0000) > > Whats that supposed to mean? Ill give you an example of what happened to me yesterday: > > Bot lane Caitlyn (me) and braum support with the enemy lane been graves and morgana. > At the 5th minute braum just gets the idea to use his w to jump on a minion in between morgana and graves. > Gets binded and raises his shield. I move as fast as I can cause I was out of range to try to help him. By the time I took 2-3 shots at graves braum was dead. First blood. > > He responds: "Well, that was not good on our part". > Me: It certainly wasnt, dont try to be too agressive, just stay behind. Graves with FB and morgana is dangerous. > He: Caitlyn muted for abuse. > > Are you kidding me? Just because I pointed out your stupid mistake and I asked you to be more carefull I suddenly am abusive? I dont care if you are softspined son but: > > a) Advising someone on a friendly manner IS NOT FREAKING ABUSE > b)If you dont want 'strangers' to try to give you advise dont make stupid mistakes > c)If you dont want 'strangers' to try to speak to you about what you are doing wrong in a CONSTRUCTIVE and FRIENDLY manner then team based games are not for you and you should withold from them. > d)you egoistically put yourself above the team by acting high and not accepting correct critisism that might win you the game. What I meant was that a friend might tolerate his head to be shouted off a little, then everyone cools down and goes back to playing normal. I am playing with friends, almost all the time. We are not calling eachother names, that is given, but often say that was stupid and other stuffs. After the game we usually discuss what we have done good and wrong. Sometimes I tell them to shut up and fucus on the game and we discuss this later because we have no time now. With a stranger, you can't really discuss it later, because he probable leaves right after the game. You grabbed out a line from my post, I have also said there is a difference how you say things to a complete stranger. You grabbed it totally out of context... If I were that Braum, I would have played as defensively as possible, that is a failing match up in my opinion, and I would rather play the Morgana... I don't think what you have said was abusive at all, he is just simply butt hurt. If he reports you nothing happens, and his report will not worth as much. It might not worth a lot at this point either. And I would not like to repeat myself, just read the posts above.
: If you feed, dont flame.
"omg ur the best player evar" This can be taken as a synical comment xD The context matters and hence it can be abusive... Riot has never punished anyone for refusing to communicate with the team, so that point is invalid... You are on the to edges, either flame or say nothing, but just like you said it is not black and white, there are tonns of things in-between. Did I say I ask them to be emotionless? I am also getting frustrated in games, I am getting upset just like anyone here, the difference is that I am not taking it out on them and make the situation worse. Still there is a huge difference how you let them know what they have been doing, and how is that wrong. For you it is O.K. to flame, while Riot says it is not. You keep repeating yourself, negative reinforcement is not working on everyone, and I think there are really really few people on whom it works, but that is an other story. Riot is trying to make the people behave, and show what is acceptable and what is not. What you are saying here is going completely against their work. What they want to achieve is to reform players, but being harsh to the other person is not the way. What do you want to achieve by flaming someone else? You are definetly not going to win the game, usually those games are lost in which one team has fallen apart because of a flame war. No one is ignoring the problem, as I have said earlier, you can point out mistakes without being rude. No one said you have to ignore feeders, but once again how you say matters. You can give a constructive critisism without being rude, using unacceptable words. The problem here is that people tend to use not so nice words to try to get their idea through. That is the problem.
: If you feed, dont flame.
No one said you should lie to yourself that you enjoy yourself when you are not. Yes you have to tell someone if he/she made a mistake, but there are ways which will be beneficial, flaming them, or being harsh on them is certainly not the way. When you are in the game you don't have time to give someone long explanation how things should be done. You cant discuss massive tactical decisions in the game. You have to be short and on the point. In which you can you can be polite or rude/harsh. You only have time to say such thing like: you need more MR or health, you need this item to be more effective, that bush is always warded so be aware, fall back and so on. You can ask that person to remain in the chat after the game and then you have all the time you want to explain and help that certain person, regarding tactics and builds, and give answer to the questions being raised. I think if you are harsh with someone, it is not going to be that effective as being polite. What if someone is already feeling bad about the situation, and you by telling him not in the nicest way, is just going to make the situation worse. Also there is a difference in spoiling people, being just, and being rude. When someone keeps telling you how bad you are, how wrong your build is and so on that will make that person to shut in, and not to do anything anymore. This is not the correct way of teaching. When you want to teach, you have to be consistent, have your rules and stick to them. You also have to respect the other person, and that means you should not walk all over him. You have to explain when you are being asked, but being condescending and rude is not the way, and definetly not going to get where you wanted to. As for being the leader of the random people on your team. Pray tell me how do you want to lead the team if you have harshly told the 5th person what he should and should not be doing? Why do you think they would follow you? Why you out of all of them? You have to put down something on the table to prove your worth so they will follow your lead. And by being too harsh with someone is definetly not the way.
Bazzo (EUW)
: My main problem when playing league
Also a tip, do not start playing ranked right after you reached lvl 30. You will need experience runes and all :) Try to find some nice guys whom you could play with, from real life or from ingame, and start to play together. Also, if you play now normal games you will be matched with people who have approximately the same experience as you do. When I started to play the game I was just like you, and my brother kept telling me to go play normals because they were easier than the bots because we were around the same level. If you have any questions feel free to ask :)
: If you feed, dont flame.
There is a huge difference when a friend tells that you did something wrong and a complete stranger. Yes, there might be some thruth in it, but when you are trying your really best, and you get flamed regardless, that is going to frustrate you. It is not like I can't controll myself generally. I never flame ingame, I try to be positive in all circumstances. But when starts to blame and flame me because things do not turn out the way he expected is frustrating. For example, I go for a normal game to practice ADC, naturally I would not go ranked, that would be absolutely stupid, bot game gives no experience against players, so I have only one choice. I am trying to last hit, be agressive or passive depending on the situation, warding. I am trying my best there, and someone starts to flame me. That won't help me at all, when I am already not confident in myself. It will just make it worse. When I play something I am good with, when someone says such things, I am not going to freak out this much, still don't like when someone flames, but will not have so much effect on me. But you can't completely disregard all of your emotions... What if that person is already aware of his mistakes and works on it, and when you point it out you are just making everything worse, because he is already working on it. You obviously don't know the other person, you can't know how he will react to what you are to say to him. As for the mute, I only mute when it is a lost case, plus I always have a friend with me who can keep me up to date on what that person is writing. For the ending, you can always tell someone without flaming what you think. It is only up to you how you chose your words in the end. There is no need to be rude with the other person. Nothing justifies one to behave unacceptably.
: Leaving in Ranked solo/duo champion select.
What Riot has to consider are the effects of the things they want to implement. And seeing how this thread is going, one has an idea, others join in, add some stuff and then comes someone who points out what is the flaw with the idea and the brain storming starts again. They really have to be cautious with anything they do. Please do not bring any nationality blame to this thread, actually to any other if that's possible. 2 dodgable games a day could be too much. When I play ranked, I play max 3 or 4 games a day and you do not need to dodge that often in champ select.
Approved (EUNE)
: For how long you had any of the honor ribbons?
I have never had any ribbons, I have points though, never got removed or anything, but I guess it has never reached a certain level to get it. Also, I am mostly playing in full team, so that really makes it impossible to get. Every game mode should matter, not only ranked or draft pick. You can get helpful in a bot game too, when you help the other by explaining some things he did not know. These honours are there to show the appreciation to the other person regardless the game mode.
Adrenalotr (EUNE)
: Dude, that's a terrible idea. It's a free dodge for when you get counterpicked or you're 4th/5th pick and don't get the position you wanted. It's easily abusable. And what's worse, it would be so annoying for the other team. They would counterpick and suddenly champ select resets. Not only have they lost the ability to counterpick, but they've also swapped pick order around, and the previous first pick might now insist on having the same role despite that he's now last pick. And once they've sorted out those problems, someone else dodges. With 10 players with potential dodges, that would delay games so much more. Allowing more dodges is not a good solution. If anything, Riot should just punish problems in champ select more prominently so players know to not misbehave there. One of its biggest problems is that players believe it's not logged. A big sweeping action to get rid of a lot of troublesome players _and_ show that Riot does indeed punish players based on their champ select behavior would reduce trouble in champ select a lot.
> [{quoted}](name=Adrenalotr,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=946dFGie,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2015-03-09T01:27:51.675+0000) > > Dude, that's a terrible idea. It's a free dodge for when you get counterpicked or you're 4th/5th pick and don't get the position you wanted. It's easily abusable. Sorry, I kinda forgot about the counter pick part and about the consequences you wrote, happens >__< Just don't mind my post.
: Leaving in Ranked solo/duo champion select.
I like this idea to collect points like you do in aram. Max 2 could be good as well and with this you will have to play to charge the bar up without leaving and dodging. So that could work. As for the veto, I don't think that is the way to go. What will you do if the majority disagrees with you and you would still want to dodge?
Ilthuelle (EUW)
: [Spiritguard Player Behavior Initiative][WIP]
Hi, I have read through all the pages and completely missed out if you have ever mentioned how would the players get those skins? They should be modelled first. But you can't implement it unless Riot does itself. How can you implement such system? How would you get the reports and the chat logs? I don't think Riot would give out such data... For me those champion skins mean nothing, I don't really like playing with them, so this incentive is irrelevant for me. But still, how would you hand them out is still a huge mistery for me. I liked Riot's mistery gift for being nice.
Grasutu (EUNE)
: Unfair Ban
@Adrena: they are taking ranked leaves harsher, so one leave might be enough. > Note: Leaving ranked games is considered more severe than leaving normal games. ( https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752714-LeaverBuster-FAQ ) @OP: what would you seriously want to achieve with such post? Do you think anyone would bother from Riot to answer when you are addressing them like that? But as Adrena said, you left your team 4v5, they lost too. So, swallow it, and move on.
Cyent (EUW)
: Report summoners comments on for example news articles
Isn't the report button on the posts functioning yet?
: Is swearing in nickname allowed?
That is the problem. We should care, and we should not allow such thing go unnoticed and not taken care of. And it totally doesn't matter what language they use.
: [Question] Will You Pay Good Money? For A Separate Moba Server With Strict Server Rules?
That is why Riot doesn't want to ban people, because they know this is not the answer to the question. That is why Riot wants to reform the players, to guide them to be better. There are 2 videos you should watch, Lyte is talking in them (one is from 2013 and the other from 2014) he is explaining many things there regarding how they want to shape the player's behaviour. I know they are "older" stuff, but still shows what they intend to do at Player's Behavioral Team. Search for these 2: GDC Vault - The Science Behind Shaping Player Behavior GDC Vault - Enhancing Sportsmanship in Online Games
: Is swearing in nickname allowed?
It is not funny, it is not apropriate, it is obscene. No one should be allowed to run around with such names.
: [Question] Will You Pay Good Money? For A Separate Moba Server With Strict Server Rules?
You forget one thing, not everyone who is behaving properly can afford it. Secondly, many who could afford it won't bother, account ban?-> I will make another one, because I don't care, I have the money, just to troll.
: Is swearing in nickname allowed?
Nop it is not allowed that's why you can report them for inaproriate name. If you want you can inculde the translation.
PreZu (EUW)
: I am sorry, I didnt wanna make it complicated for you :) . I did copy paste: But I didnt wanna be rude and post it without your permission and I didnt link it because it was "double post" dont know why it created to posts, since I pressed "edit" and changed the screen when I realized there is violation of rules :) But thank you for rewriting and I value your comment! And I agree with Jinx, but why should I be punished for it, I mean that she gets punished, I dont mind she broke the rules but how I can get report for feeding enemy and have feeder on lane when she runs in hulahop in :D I mean... Really people give so less love to supports - if they do well its of course, if the adc does bad its supports fault.
> [{quoted}](name=PreZu,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=RrgsVZlQ,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2015-02-23T17:46:05.379+0000) > Really people give so less love to supports - if they do well its of course, if the adc does bad its supports fault. There is another topic about this. I have a friend, he loves ADC, so I always bring my adc with if I go to soloQ :) Try to get some friends to play it, or make friends and play together, it is much more fun. Then you can take your time after the game to analyze what you did good, and what bad. And in the next game trying to be better :p I forgot to mention it, thanks for removing the names, good job :)
PreZu (EUW)
: Ribbons, silvers and unicorns!
No probs :) You can remove my post from yours, it will make people dizzy xDD As far as I can see, I managed to write almost the same anyway :) We seriously need some chat function on the boards, or at least some message option :)
PreZu (EUW)
: Ribbons, silvers and unicorns!
Wow, you made it a bit difficult for me, since I usually write the my replies in notepad, but this one not. You could have copy pasted and quoted before doing something with the thread xD So, think think think. About the ribbons, I haven't seen anyone for ages who had ribbons, you need to get honoured constantly, by strangers to keep that up, otherwise it won't show up. I have only seen ribbons at the very begining, when they were introduced. Then about that Jinx. There are 2 options: 1. he really did use his friend's account. Which leads to several consequences to the owner of that account. Firstly, he should have not let his friend try the game out in a ranked game -> risking his account to be chat restricted or other type of punishment and loses LP. Letting your friend try the game on a ranked is just plainly stupid- you have bot games for that. 2. it was his own account and by saying that he wanted his team mates to feel less angry towards him, and evade the flame. I have often had the adc flame me in all chat, and in reply the enemy bot lane defended me, and said I was carrying him so he should just stay silent. Good luck finding people you can play with! ps: I hope I did not miss anything out... :)
Dagreatking (EUNE)
: Riot Lyte Speaks up, The new automated punishing systems works as intended
This should be pinned or something. Thanks for posting it :)
Dzyrt (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Celebloth,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=6624M2v6,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2015-02-23T15:09:47.055+0000) > > I replied to the guy above me, I forgot to quite him, it was not aimed at you. than sry me too
> [{quoted}](name=Dzyrt,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=6624M2v6,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2015-02-23T15:17:44.033+0000) > > than sry me too No probs. What I meant, though reading it back (my first comment), it was not really self-explanatory, was that try to be more positive. Yes there are annoying games like that. But the Leaver Buster System will catch that guy. Yes I know it had ruined your game already, so the harm is done, but you will have to move on. Try to find a friend with whom you could duoQ. And someone posted this not long ago, read it: http://boards.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/ypKzoTy1-riot-lyte-speaks-up-the-new-automated-punishing-systems-works-as-intended
Dzyrt (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Celebloth,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=6624M2v6,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2015-02-23T14:27:23.062+0000) > > If you are not having fun, then why don't you look for something that is fun for you? Seriously, there is no need for your negativity here. > > As for how will I feel about the game is my business not yours, and I don't need any sort of prediction from you. I play something till it is fun for me, but I don't come and complain about it-like you do, just move on. > > And once more change your mindset, this is not going to get you anywhere, not just ingame. change your mindset tell me some negative guy who don't even understand why i post this
> [{quoted}](name=Dzyrt,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=6624M2v6,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2015-02-23T15:06:08.622+0000) > > change your mindset tell me some negative guy who don't even understand why i post this I replied to the guy above me, I forgot to quite him, it was not aimed at you.
Dzyrt (EUNE)
: RIOT why you make frustrated me?
Riot wants to reform players and use the bans as the last case scenario. And if those guy are consitently trolling or AFK then they are going to be cought.
Dzyrt (EUNE)
: RIOT why you make frustrated me?
If you are not having fun, then why don't you look for something that is fun for you? Seriously, there is no need for your negativity here. As for how will I feel about the game is my business not yours, and I don't need any sort of prediction from you. I play something till it is fun for me, but I don't come and complain about it-like you do, just move on. And once more change your mindset, this is not going to get you anywhere, not just ingame.
Hick3y1 (EUW)
: Provoked to report :/
Seriously how would you know that no one was ever banned for that? None of us knows. But that doesn't mean it never happened.
Dzyrt (EUNE)
: RIOT why you make frustrated me?
That doesn't make any sense, considering Riot has implemented a Leaver Buster System to catch the AFK player, those who rage quit, and those who fool around the fountain. Change your mindset, instead of trying to blame someone else, focus on yourself a bit more and see where you could improve. And once you are not trying to blame someone, you will find that you have more time to yourself.
: Schebdibaebueb. Thank you.
Now this was surprising in a positive way! Thank you for bringing something positive to this section of the forums! ps: as JackyAce said, you could add him :)
Samaritan (EUW)
: I do not understand this punishment system...
> I just disconnected from two games! Am I going to get banned? > No, your account will not be banned. However, it is possible to be punished for leaving just 1-2 games. Players who leave games will be placed in a low priority queue and will be required to play 5 matchmade games without leaving before exiting low priority queue. > > Note: Leaving ranked games is considered more severe than leaving normal games. from here: https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752714-LeaverBuster-FAQ
xHaTeDx (EUW)
: Leavers AFK rage quit etc
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Leaver_Buster https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752714-LeaverBuster-FAQ
Hick3y1 (EUW)
: Provoked to report :/
Riot has access to all chats, pre-game, in-game and after game chat. So this, say what ever you want, well you can, but you will have to face the consequences. Why would you fall to their level? Turn off all chat, and have a more peacefull game to yourself.
Dextix LT (EUNE)
: The botlane discussion.
Just like the support has his responsibilities, the adc has his as well. It is not solely the support's job to win the lane for the 2 of them. It is a duo lane, hence it should be the cooperative work of the support and the adc to do things together. Things are not so black and white as you say. Yes there are supports who are camping the bush and do nothing, but also there are supports who do everything in their power to help and save their adc, and still get flamed. Also there are adc who know their own limit, and won't sucide completely disregarding whether the support can help them or save them. Also, you get people who would flame their support/adc, and those who are trying to be nice, and ask them to play a bit safer or be a bit more active and help the other. How about when you are just there and keep on farming, and you outfarm your opponent and have not died once? Yes it is ideal if the champion composition on your side is good to harass, and then get a kill or 2 eventually. But not dying and repelling ganks, having all 3 on low HP, and they have to port home, and you stay there and keep on farming. As for the roaming part, I did not actually meant early game, but, for example, your bot tower is lost, your adc can farm safely, maybe your team could do something with your help and wards while your adc is safe and sound. The supports are not magicians to win the early game for the adc under any kind of circumstances, you need the combined power of the 2.
: Show Humility in Victory, and Grace in Defeat
I would rather say, people should not read the rules, because they should be evident. Maybe they think that it is normal- when it is absolutely not though- because that's what they see people around them saying. This is what should be changed by Riot, and by those players who know how to behave properly, we should show them what is acceptable behaviour and what is not. And maybe if they see that the majority is not flaming, not using abusive words, they might stop using them themselves.
Dextix LT (EUNE)
: The botlane discussion.
The problem with botlane is that it is the only lane with 2 person playing on it ( I know I said something pretty obvious xD ) Anyhow, the problem resides here. 2 random person on one lane, who are playing together for the very first time, and we expect that to turn out good. Sadly in most cases is not happening, since I don't know how my adc would react and he would not know how I would to certain things, initiation is a problem too. I go in, but he doesn't just keeps farming, or the other way around. It is really rare to have a bit of synergy on bottom lane, it is not impossible, I have had some positive surprises, but the most common is that I am blamed for everything, I am saving him, dying to it, so he could run to safety, and then he laughs, how lame I am that I have died. What I would suggest you, is to get a friend, who is playing ADC as a main, and duo with him. I have been playing almost for a year with a friend on bot lane, it is cool. I know this is not solving the case of the random ADC's mentality, but could help you. What I like in the LCS now, is that the supports often leave their adc alone, sometimes he has to fight 2, but naturally he is not complaining for being left alone. This might change something, I hope.. Edit: got another idea in the mean time, when I go with random ADCs I usually bring a support that has shields and heals and long range initiations. This way I won't get in the middle of the enemy bot lane, and expecting to be followed. Still this is not neutralizing the chances of having a Vayne that is suiciding, and you are trying all you can with a Janna, but still, gives a bit more chance.
Ange361 (EUNE)
: Why we have to do it like that?
Nop, noob is a rude word, and completely different to the newb/newbie- this is the beginner. So please do not mix them up. It is pretty though to understand what do you mean. And that has nothing to do with how good ones english is. (His is better, just saying,) Grammar is pretty useful, when you want to make sentences which you want to be understood. So he is trying to help you in his own way, suggesting maybe you could try to get help from your native language forum. Please do not play the victim here, you have absolutely no right to. No one has been rude to you. If you do not agree what they suggest, doesn't mean they are being rude. Keep on imrpoving then.
Ange361 (EUNE)
: Why we have to do it like that?
I can't watch more than 10, because I can only check in the client, for you are 28 and the match history on the net is just showing single games. Did I ever say you should build Voli as Kata? No, I said build against your lane opponent, against the team in general. And that is changing every single game. Thus the same build won't be working for every single game. You are not understanding me. And no you did not build what it was needed on Voli, because you went against a heavy AP and you build defense, aka you did not build what was needed for him. Side note, the recomended items are just guide lines, you can make different ones if the situation calls for it. Usually it does. Go through the items, go through your masteries, and have your runes in a bit of order.
Ange361 (EUNE)
: Why we have to do it like that?
I have checked your last 10 games, actually 9. You are always buying the same items on Volibear, completely disregarding who your enemy was. This is what you still have to learn. You do not build the same items if the enemy is AP heavy or AD heavy. There was a game where you were against a Gragas on top, Morgana on mid, Nunu in the jungle and a Blitzcrank. And your first item was sunfire cape. That is a good item, but not as first against these champions. You only bought any magic resist item at the 46th minute, that is way too late against this set up. So what I am suggesting you, is that you go through the items, and write them down for yourself to see which are good for example against AP, against AD, and adjust your itemization ingame. Do not be too rigid with the builds, it is not going to be any good.
Ange361 (EUNE)
: Why we have to do it like that?
I read all of it, just because I said it was hard to read, that didn't mean I had not read it. But you still did it alone, it doesn't matter for whom you did it, you still did it alone. It is much safer to take down turrets if more of you are there, unless you are pretty much ahead, but with that many deaths, I doubt you were. Also, I don't think that is a great achievement to die 12 times for taking down a turret. I don't know the particulars about that game though. But with the 12 deaths you were not helping your team. Maybe you could have helped your team to victory by actually helping them on mid, win a teamfight and then push it to the inhim or nexus or whatever.
Ange361 (EUNE)
: Why we have to do it like that?
> [{quoted}](name=Ange361,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=QE6IczEq,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-02-21T11:35:11.708+0000) > > Victory or defeat we have to play as a team and try to help .. a much as we can.I will give u an example so that u may understand that they don`t know.. nothing about pvp some users." 4 of them go middle... i stay top with volibear but they don`t watch the map.3 of the enemy team..are on the middle they are 4 and allways atack..and rush the game, the bot is broken because they are middle and i have 10 deaths but finalay manage to brake top alone , deaths ecause they don`t watch the map to imediate give support when enemy comes..They prefer solo games. Ok first, you are stating that this game is about team play- that is correct, then you say yourself that you finally broke top lane "alone". This is a bit of contradiction. Try to sort that out for yourself. You also say 3 was on mid, why did you not go to mid when 3 was there, even if 4 of them were there? You obviously saw the map. They don't always can handle that 3, and you as Volibear, the tank, should have been there, and then it would have been 5v3. Also, it was pretty hard to read your texts, try to make some breaks in between, helps with reading.
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