Shozis (EUNE)
: Then you would just remove every comment that disagrees with you and any argument you can't counter. If you decide to participate in public discussion you should be prepared that some people will disagree, present strong points, prove you wrong.
I can see that you haven't read the board nor the comments and replies.
Wıck (EUW)
: It was sarcasm. These boards are public so there's gonna be trolls regardless, it's no use wasting your time 'moderating' these. I don't really know why you're still arguing with everyone here, it's clear you won't get the answer you want, but instead of accepting it and moving on to different topics you keep hammering on with the same repost. You do know the definition of insanity, right?
I am answering the replies -.-
GuznaNafta (EUNE)
: What question? What point? If anything you proved mine. See I don't really care about you or what you post. I came in to answer your question. You keep reposting and expect a different answer. You keep claiming how you don't care about downvotes yet you go on a spree when you don't agree ( downvotes are not meant for that at all btw ). You keep making up stuff to prove a point, and when you get proven wrong, you resort to ad hominem. Great job there boyo. You just shot yourself in the foot.
I re-posted Blue essence because i got nothing but pictures and gifs, hence why i made this post. Re-posting the Blue essence board was a really good thing because i immediately got an answer for one of my points in it, but it was satisfying enough for me. So if i get nothing but gifs and pictures on my first upload and then i get an answer on my second upload, how does that make me a joke ? If anyone here is a joke it would be you, You already commented on my first post then you come in here on my re-upload posting a gif, which was one of the reason to why i wanted to be able to delete comments on my own. Please stop wasting others time with nonsense.
GuznaNafta (EUNE)
: What question? What point? If anything you proved mine. See I don't really care about you or what you post. I came in to answer your question. You keep reposting and expect a different answer. You keep claiming how you don't care about downvotes yet you go on a spree when you don't agree ( downvotes are not meant for that at all btw ). You keep making up stuff to prove a point, and when you get proven wrong, you resort to ad hominem. Great job there boyo. You just shot yourself in the foot.
Do you even read what you write ? You say that you don't care about my post, then what are you doing here ? How am i making stuff up ? all i said is that i got pictures and gif on my post ( which i did ) ''You keep claiming how you don't care about downvotes yet you go on a spree when you don't agree ( downvotes are not meant for that at all btw ).'' This makes no sense at all since i only said that i don't care if a get down voted or not once. You know that engage in a conversation can help you see things from another perspective and also to learn different things ? you should try doing that every now and again it might help you. You say that you only came in here to help me, so why post a gif ? when it was the thing i didn't want on my posts and is the whole reason to why i made this post. Sure you might have given your opinion on why self modding shouldn't be a thing on my first post. So when you saw that i re-posted this, why didn't 1. give your opinion again or 2. ignore it ?. Please tell me how i am making things up to prove my point. No i did not shoot myself in the foot if anyone did it would have been you who did it.
GuznaNafta (EUNE)
: You keep reposting. People don't care anymore. You keep coming back with same questions that keep getting the same answers. People get sick of that really fast.
You couldn't even answer my question and you sit here and say that i have already gotten my question answered, Good job of proving my point.
GuznaNafta (EUNE)
: You got provided with a lot of answers. Even the mods engaged. You just didn't get the answer you were hoping for.
Alot of aswers there was not. I mean just look at this board and tell me how many answers you see here compared to how many are good answers and how many are not (not including replies obviously ) and even on the previous one.
GuznaNafta (EUNE)
: First of all. You have no reputation. We are all equal here besides moderators. >The fact that you left that out makes it looks like i only re-posted this because i got no support. There was nothing to leave out because there were only 2 posts. The posts where people shared their arguments were engaged in way more than those two memes. You can take my words however you want. The fact is you deleted your post because it got downvoted and you don't like it.
I don't give a f if my post gets down voted or not, all i care about is getting an answer to my questions, but i can see that it is not a thing here.
GuznaNafta (EUNE)
: I guess my wall of info about how the forums work is not extensive info. I'll write an essay next time. You are countering your own words. Was it two posts with pictures and GIFs or all of them? You deleted it because your idea was looked down upon. I was just one of the people that provided you with the answer. Don't hide behind imaginary excuses.
You do know that you can make more than one post right ? Just because one of my post had 1 or 2 pictures/gifs doesn't mean that i am only talking about that one. And again saying that they don't allow people to moderate their own boards because they might remove comments that are countering you or are disagreeing with you, just to make your point look good and wanted by the people, is not enough to be called extensive info. And no i didn't re-posted this because it was looked down upon, i re-posted it because people were reacting to the gif and picture and not contributing with anything. I am not hiding behind any imaginary excuses, you just said that there was a gif and a picture, which was one of my reason to why i re-posted this, also since you saw those you must have seen that people did react to those instead of putting their thoughts on why moderating should or shouldn't be a thing on this site. The fact that you left that out makes it looks like i only re-posted this because i got no support. Please stop trying to damage someones reputation because you don't agree with them.
GuznaNafta (EUNE)
: You had one picture and one GIF. And that was posted only after you disregarded every single counter argument. You didn't even acknowledge the facts of the arguments. You simply told everyone that they are wrong. We gave you extensive info on why your idea isn't implemented. All you had to say was "You're wrong and I need it." What were you expecting?
Extensive info ? Are you sure they were posted on my board ? All i saw was, They don't have it so you don't remove all the comments they don't agree with you to make your board look good. Yeah that is real extensive info right there. Sure it might have been just one pic and one gif but people reacted to that instead of commenting their opinion on the mater.
Èclair (EUNE)
: Oh no. Somebody posted a reaction in form of a picture. Better call the Internet police! Here's an idea - let moderators do their job. You're not even familiar with the boards layout and you want to moderate it? Slow down.
Let them do their job ? i reported those spam/ troll comments 5 days before i re-posted this, yeah i will wait a month before they might remove it.
GuznaNafta (EUNE)
: https://media.giphy.com/media/A3ljbqyIn8L8A/giphy.gif
It is a re-post because i got nothing but pictures and gifs. If i had been given an answer or some counter arguments, i wouldn't have re-posted it.
Èclair (EUNE)
: This is a public board. Any comment that is not breaching ToU is welcomed. If you don't like that, join or make a private forum.
Regardless if this is a public board or not people could still come in and give an answer to your question and not just post gifs/pictures.
Wıck (EUW)
: Then don't read them LOOOOOL 4Head
I won't know what the message is until i have seen it -.-' Usually when you ask a question you would expect and want an answer, so when you see that you have gotten a message you are going to look at what it says.
person (EUW)
: Hansiman
Ah ok, i got a little confused because i asked if you could moderate your own board or if they could change so that you could.
person (EUW)
: But if you consider that riot isnt able to moderate themselves, and this is HIS thread after all... well..
Did you say this to me or to Hansiman ?
: https://i.imgflip.com/2vc8oz.jpg
Because it is not helpful in any way.
Wıck (EUW)
: You need to make a good point for people to take you seriously, if you don't, of course they will troll. I think that's common sense but maybe it's just me.
It doesn't matter how good your points are, they will still post memes, icons and pictures that have really nothing to do with the board.
Hansiman (EUW)
: You've already been answered this question. Deleting your own threads and reposting them because you don't like the answer isn't going to change it. No, you can't moderate.
I reposted it because i didn't want memes on it and unserious comments on it. It did change things actually, i reposted another one and i got way more serious and more helpful comments on it.
Rioter Comments
Smerk (EUW)
: look carefully, not every 50th, but every 25th. And it's not that big of a difference between lowest point and highest
Yeah i see now that it is every 25th, i didn't zoom in. I see that it goes down a thousand and then the exp needed to level up raises up per level until you level up 25 more times. But the journey to 50 is long.
Shamose (EUW)
: Well If you want to speed things up buy RP.
Hahaha good joke :D
Smerk (EUW)
: > When you get to a higher level it takes longer to level up Well, not really. XP curve looks like this https://i.stack.imgur.com/rdVhu.png look at orange line. Level 49 to level 50 is the highest amount of XP you'll ever need to level up. > What bothers me with this is that i could play for hours just because i was saving up for a champion, but now i just get bored after like three games (unless the mission is on) and it really does suck for me because i don't have that many champs, i have like 5. So what happened to your old account? Why don't you use it instead?
The chart goes up and then down every 50th level, So how is fast ? Yeah sure after you have hit 50 then maybe for a bit but then it is slow again.
Rioter Comments
Chiimz (EUNE)
: My thought on the changes
I thing that was really good about earning ip after each game was if you were close to a champion you wanted you could just play a game or two too afford it but now you have to wait untill you level up wich would really suck if you just did.
: It was litterally just a pain to attempt to do so... nobody wants to grind just to have a fighting chance
Or they could just have removed runes entirely. Also why did they get rid of masteries ? Or is the new runes just a mix of the weaker old runes and some of the unesed masteries ? hmmm. It is more built like a mastery page and even some of the masteries but some are a mix of the old weak runes. Interesting.
: > First of all you didn't have to buy all the champions before you could buy runes, But you need 16 (now 20) to get into ranked... plus if you don’t buy the champions you need then your not going to be able to get anywhere in the game... if you like a 6300 champion that’s about a month or so that your not getting runes... most people simply can’t afford that much grinding just for something that might not give any benefit... hence why people just copy pros. > if you did decide to buy runes before champions you do not have an advantage since you now don't have any champions to play as. Except people do this... they work off free to play champions and get runes instead which gives them a massive advantage in game... I encountered plenty while pre 30 and it’s extremly unfair. > You can still be at a disadvantage since you have to be level 15 to have every runes ulocked so if you are under 15 and is up agains someone who is 15 or over you are at a disadvantage. But two people who are level 15 or higher should be on equal ground... suddenly they aren’t cause one has a full rune page and one doesn’t... that’s not fair. With the new runes while yes they have n advantage it’s one which you usually interact with in game, meaning that the advantage is limited... with the old runes you can’t do anything if the enemy laner just has outright better stats than you for no good reason. > The old runes were not in the background to the point of you not even knowing it is there, you will know. > If you start a game and have 0 ap and in another game you start with you have 10 ap you will see it and notice that on the field since now you will be dealing more dmg. If you have to go look at their stats just to figure out what kinds of advantages they have then that’s background power... something riot has been trying to get rid of and have been reworking champions to stop... And yes it’s something you don’t notice, you don’t go out of a game saying “I won that cause I had 10 ap”, because it’s so difficult to see its impact no matter how big it is... but with the new runes you can actually see their impact in the game.
It seems like i was the only one who noticed the difference and also bought them trough learning the champions and get to know what could help them.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
That's ok. If you like the changes that is fine i am not trying to make you dislike it i just wanted to tell my thoughts on the updates.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
You are absolutely right, it was weird that you had to grind and spend ip on something i didn't even knew just to play rank/ draft pick. I can't belive that i didn't see that earlier. Seriously If just told you that i didn't know that there was a requirement to play a certain gamemode how can you then sit there and say that i am trying to avoid admiting that Be is better then ip and that the old runes are worst then the new once ? I think you are avoiding something.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Ok we could talk about the curency. Now that you get more ( what you all says) is there really any problem to spend more on runes ? i mean i know that they don't exict any more but if they did. The whole grinding for champions and runes would have been easier now when you gett more. Right ?
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
How am i avoiding anything ? all i said was that i didn't know that there was any requirements
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
I might have had does when i played it so i didn't really know that there was any requirements
: Bro, for ur own sake, quit it. U really don't want to embarass urself any more than u already have.
I knew you would take it seriously, and no i havn't embarrassed myself.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Never really saw that there was a requirement to play rank in those categories
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
It didn't force you, you choose to do so. And seeing as how many people had such an escess of ip that they had to try to change that, getting runes wouldn't have been a huge problem, i know that not everyone had that and especially not in the begining. I know the struggle of grinding for ip but changing it so that you get it trhough levels and that you get more after level 30 the just doesn't seem to be that much better.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Naming no, but finding the one you wanted faster yes.
: To summarize, u have an inexplicable attachment to the old runes and are trying to fabricate excuses for why the new ones are bad. Alright. I can accept that. But pls stop trying to make this sound as though you had some kind of logical argument when all you're saying is "Me no like new runes, me like old runes better." PS: No, "speaking" is the proper word to use in that sentence. Don't try to out-grammar-nazi me kid, u'll only get hurt.
Let me just talk to my computer so that you can see this. Yes i do like the old runes better and if you like the new once better good for you, i am not trying to change that, i just said what i thought about it and alot of you wants to talk about it so i just replied. "Me no like new runes, me like old runes better." that is all i said about it huh ? did you not speak what i spoke in my previous voice mails ?
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
I never said that they were cheap and yes you did earn a verry small amount of ip in season 3.
: Except most people wherent allowed to do this... simple as that. You had to pay for runes... getting entire rune pages to ages to grind for, this meant that unless you have every champion and you have no more use for ip you wouldn’t be able to reliably do this... and even if you didn’t have another use for ip it took ages to actually get a new rune page set up. That’s why most people just went for the bog standard runes, why they just copied the pros... because they don’t have the time nor energy to spend so long trying to get enough ip together to attempt to experiment. Compare that to now, runes are completely free... meaning that everyone has the option to experiment without getting penalised for wasting ip on an experiment... this is a lot better way to do the rune system, as not only is it more experiment friendly but you can actually clearly see the impact your choices makes in game, rather than it being background and thus extremely easy to miss, It’s also getter for new players... they need to be using ip on getting their champions, but if someone decides to do their rune page first suddenly it becomes extremly unfair for their opponents as they now have a massive advantage that they have no counter play for. This way all new players get equal access to runes which prevents people from getting unfairly strong by buying champions with rp or just going off free week...
First of all you didn't have to buy all the champions before you could buy runes, and if you did decide to buy runes before champions you do not have an advantage since you now don't have any champions to play as. You can still be at a disadvantage since you have to be level 15 to have every runes ulocked so if you are under 15 and is up agains someone who is 15 or over you are at a disadvantage. The old runes were not in the background to the point of you not even knowing it is there, you will know. If you start a game and have 0 ap and in another game you start with you have 10 ap you will see it and notice that on the field since now you will be dealing more dmg.
: they should make runes free for everyone so you can pick what you like. that is a strategic. This new season is 1 big pre-season.
How is getting a free limitied runepage stratigick ?
: Except that’s not what the ip glitch did... wasn’t usually just one game... I had the glitch for over a month, that’s a hell of a lot more ip lost than just one capsule.
Well since it never happened to me nor did i see it, i would have no way of knowing that before writing this. And also it says my thoughts on the changes not ours. So i don't understand why so many approach this so aggressively
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
You could just name them and it would be so much easier
: You could never make a rune page with "only magic*k* re*c*ist*" (i can see why u seem to be unable to comprehend what I've been repeating over and over, since you obviously only just barely speak english) if you wanted to stay competitive, since only one glyphs gave u the full value for mr while mr seals were way less efficient and an opponent with a more diverse setup would outstat you straight up leading to u having a virtual gold disadvantage at min 0. And again, you never had a lot of options. Every champion had one or at most two optimal rune setups. Stray from that and you were immediately on the back foot. It wasn't exciting, it wasn't meaningful, it was boring as %%%% and expensive as hell. And of course having too much IP is different from having a hard time getting IP. I never said otherwise. I merely said that the two issues have nothing to do with each other. There are "poor" (newbs, who only just started playing or just started a new acc) and there are "rich" ppl (who played since the early seasons and just racked up IP by being around and playing for years) and 2 is meant to help the former, and 3 is meant to help the latter. That doesn't make them opposites, since these issues have little to do with each other.
First of all, yes you could make a runepage of only mr, i never said that you could fill one out. I know that there was a limit on how many of one rune you could have but you could still make a runepage with just mr. Secondly. It is reading not speaking please get that right. Thirdly. if someone is a higher level then you then they can have runes that gives them more defences meaning that you are at a gold disadvantage. See how that can be flipped ? fourthly. Just beacuse someone had more runes then you or better it didn't mean that you were at a disadvantage just beacuse they had a little bit more stats then you, it is how you play and yes runes can help assure you that you won't die as easily or help you get a kill easier, but you weren't invisible and you could still be killed trhough your actions.
: > Belive it or not but the capsule can acctually dissapear meaning that you don't get anything, whilst ip doesn't dissapear Your litterally having a descussion about which is better, you then brought up this bug, and also litterally said that capsules disappear while ip doesn’t. You are litterally saying that capsules disappearing is proof that ip was better...
What i meant with that is if you play a game and don't get your ip from that game it is not the end of the world, you could just play another one and recive some from that game. With capsule you can only get it from leveling up meaning if it dissapear you can't just play another game and get it , you will have to level up again.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
So you found like 2 runes that matched what i asked for, whoopide dooda, But with the old one you could make it more and without any restraint. See you can only change between 3 different on in a line, meaning that there is verry little customisations
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
I could just sit right now and read what they do and make up my mind in wich once i would take and never touch the other once. The argument about the old one can so easily be flipped to the new runes
: The entire strategy behind runes was literally googling what pros are doing... they didn’t allow for innovation as there was only one or two veriations that actually works... Plus once your in game you forget about runes as they are background... you loose any semblance of strategy if you just play the game the exact same every single time no matter what. New runes are less punishing for new players, they have more strategy, and they actually impact how you play the game.
First of all, not every one googled what the pros used nor wich once was the best, some acctually played the characters/ class long enough too know what they needed/what could help them. That is what i did, trial and error my friend, i also did mess around with it by only putting cooldown reduction on it and being able to spam some abbilities. I never forgot about them and i didn't use the same one all the time, you also had masteries too accompany you and your runes, one good thing is that you could have tank runes and ad masteries for your ad carry and getting a slight advantage. All you needed was some imaginations. You obviously tried to hard and didn't play the game for fun so you never got too excperience it.
: "I was never effected, so it doesn't matter." Others had the ip bug and never lost a capsule. If you want to talk about the amount you get, you should not integrate bugs, as they aren't meant to be.
All i said is that capsule can dissapear and then you are left with nothing, i never said that this is why ip is better.
: And personally I’ve never had a capsule disappear... but I did have it where I wasn’t getting any ip for over a month... 1 capsule going is nothing compared to the ip glitch, and you can’t use you getting one and not the other as proof that ip was better, both glitches are rare.
I never said that the glitch in where my capsule dissapeared was proof that ip was better, I don't know where people is getting that from
: > [{quoted}](name=Chiimz,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=yuT3r7EP,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-05-13T16:50:18.737+0000) > > Did you even read anything that i wrote ? Yep, did you?
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