ShanksFX (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Cix,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=I2J2NKht,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-28T20:08:04.861+0000) > > Lies? Could you explain, cause I don't seem to get it. > > Anyways, that's your opinion, I respect it, but strongly disagree with it, because I didn't say that he is a toxic moron out of my anger, but because It's the truth, ok? You can't base your opinion on seeing one side of the medal, so what if I told you he said he wanted Me to die etc? > Who's being really toxic? No one cares about your opinion when facts say otherwise. If i call you a walking waste of oxygen because i think that is what you are, this is ok? C'mon you cant actually be this stupid to believe this reasining you gave to be right.... But IF you rly think you are right on this matter, let me set this straight: You are not. It doesnt matter what he said, if you insult someone, its an insult. There is no other side of the medal in this case, because all that counts is what you wrote. literally nothing else matters.
And the facts are? Saying that it doesn't matter what other players say really makes me laugh. How ignorant do you have to be to write such thing? Of course it does matter, because I didn't write those comments out of nowhere. Those comments as you can see, are a result of other players mssgs, which were way more offensve. And if I'm going to be banned for that, It surely **does **matter.
: I like when flamers suddenly realizes that this is game is not fun anymore, that maybe they invested way too much time in it, that it's time to look for a game with a better community and so on. Strangely enough they seems to realize that right when they are permabanned, how funny. But whatever, i'm sure that's just a coincidence. Goodbye anyway. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
You don't have the audacity to call me names, and label me as a flamer. Also, I didn't say the game is not fun. I did invest too much time in the game, and I realized it long time ago, but don't remember saying I regreted it. So, your comment doesn't make sense, and doesn't relate to the topic. Goobye
: >In many years of playing the game, I've gotten a pretty good idea about what 'toxic' is. lies >Cix: just rep this kid Cix: for toxic moron this is **just one** example of the toxicity you displayed
Lies? Could you explain, cause I don't seem to get it. Anyways, that's your opinion, I respect it, but strongly disagree with it, because I didn't say that he is a toxic moron out of my anger, but because It's the truth, ok? You can't base your opinion on seeing one side of the medal, so what if I told you he said he wanted Me to die etc? Who's being really toxic?
Get Juk3d (EUNE)
: make a new account at the stat of every game type : /mute all have fun
Hey, nice idea, haha. But really, there's absolutely no way I'm starting on level 1 without champions and skins I gave money for :) This is only a game, but I remember many nice moments I've had from it. I've even met some of my best friends through it, players from my city. Anyways, I'll probably just find another game to play, with a better community. Have fun playing tho, and thanks :)
: >So, they reported me, I think i got couple reports from my team, but enemy team agreed to report our jungle/supp. I was getting ready for another game, went in champ select, and BAAM, message, I was perma banned. What? Seriously? I thought this can't be cause I never offended anyone in game for years of playing show chat logs and when was the 2 week ban?
: > You might have been found to be causing a negative game experience. Punishments usually follow a basic path: > > *First Offense: 10 Game Chat Restriction. > *Second Offense: 25 Game Chat Restriction. > *Third Offense: Two Week Suspension. > *Fourth Offense: Permanent Suspension. > > However, it is possible to skip to a Two Week or Permanent suspension based on the severity of the behavior in the game. Excessive negative behavior can result in a Two-Week or Permanent suspension at any time without having a chat restriction on the account. > > If you wish so, you can appeal by [submitting a request](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/requests/new) to Player Support. You can contest it if you believe it was not deserved, just be aware that they may not agree and will not lift the ban tho.
I'm still thinking If I should, because League was taking too much of my time anyways, but I may submit a ticket later. Thanks :)
Shukr4n (EUW)
: Where s the chatlog? I dont read excuses
CoopA826 (EUW)
: I think your problems are that you don't know how the ban system works, that you think there are instances where flaming is justified, that you are unable to evaluate your own behaviour and that you're extremely underestimating how toxic your are. > because 4 premades reported me for writing 'outplayed'. This is a perfect example of everything I just said. Doesn't matter if there were 4 reports or just 1 in that game. The result would have been the same. Simply writing "outplayed" is obviously and demonstrably not enough to get a 14 day ban. You're either lying to us or intentionally ignoring the fact that you're toxic. Chat logs would have helped, but you're definitely not going to produce those for obvious reasons. > I thought this can't be cause I never offended anyone in game for years of playing Concidering that you've been banned twice, reported multiple times over a long period of time that is very hard to believe. > I need u to understand this, because some things they wrote me made me tilted. If you need us to understand this you should have posted the chat logs. > And not a single warning? When you were banned for 14 days they told you that you're on thin ice and that every further violation of the ToS will result in a warning. You had 3 chances to fix your behaviour (or just the 14 day ban if you were homophobic or racist) and you didn't. Now deal with the consequences
Hello, I've posted chat logs, so feel free to read them and comment again. The thing is, I know how the ban system works, and that's probably the reason I wasn't banned in the past. 14 day ban is still a mystery to me, but didn't really care, because I was away for the holidays anyway. This one I really don't understand either. I would understand chat ban or something, but this? Surely not. I never was homophobic or racist, never. The most offensive thing I say to player is that he's a moron. So, when someone says they wish I died and i tell them "shut up kid", I'm offensive? Hah.
Febos (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Cix,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=I2J2NKht,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-02-28T01:53:42.648+0000) > > Never was a flamer, the first ban I've got was 2 weeks ban in December 2017, because 4 premades reported me for writing 'outplayed'. 4 reports are the same as 1. Even if four premades gang up on you and report for whatever reason, as long as you didn't do anything wrong you won't be punished. I don't believe your story. No one is temporary banned for saying "outplayed". You most likely said few nasty things. If you still have those chat logs be sure to share them here. *** > [{quoted}](name=Cix,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=I2J2NKht,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-02-28T01:53:42.648+0000) > > My last game for example was on top. I was getting camped for the first 10 minutes of the game by 2 people, and jungler didn't even care. I asked him to come, to which he said he won't. I'll adress this first because it's a common misconception among low MMR players. If you are losing your lane, for whatever reason (you mentioned camping), then your jungler isn't supposed to be ganking you unless he, himself, is fed or your champion can snowball even from behind. A good jungler won't gank a losing lane. It's the opposite really. A good jungler will gank a winning lane. ######There are a few caveats but that's the general idea. During the early game all lanes should be neutral. That's when the jungler is pro-actively trying to tip the lane balance in his favour. Even burning a summoner spell is enough. This is when the "gank the winning lane" comes in. If the jungler already tiped the balance of the lane in your favour then he'll be incentivized to gank it again. A bad jungler will gank once, burn a summoner spell, or get a kill, and won't show up again until X minutes have passed (usually when SP are up again). Those usually try to gank every lane and fail miseraly because them, junglers, can't help everyone. A good jungler will mount a tent near your lane and eat marshmallows while he waits. *** Now going to talk about your specific game. I'm assuming you are talking about [this game](https://matchhistory.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/1919976719/24853270) since it's the last one in your match history and you are 0/6 (you mentioned 0/3 at some point). A few things to understand about this specific case: - You're playing Top. A jungler should stay way from a losing top laner. Top lane (usually) doesn't carry. - You're Fiora against GP. You didn't build a single armour item against a champion that builds strickly damage. - I'm not familiar with the GP vs Fiora matchup, but I'm willing to bet Fiora beats GP when she has Tiamat. You just need to play smart until then. - Your jungler is Evelynn. Evelynn can't gank effectively until she's level 6, especially not against GP because he can just "eat orange and be K" her W. - You didn't buy a single control ward the entire game. Also, 12 wards in 37 minutes isn't enough. That's 1 ward every 3 minutes. If you are being camped then you need wards. You can blame your jungler all you want, but it isn't his fault. If I was your jungler I would do the exact same thing. As Evelynn I won't gank a losing lane, especially if that lane is supposed to be winning. In your specific case not only were you losing, but GP isn't easy to gank with Evelynn pre-6. You don't bring anything useful for the gank (CC) so Evelynn would need to do all the work alone. He could most likely 1v2 you. *** > [{quoted}](name=Cix,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=I2J2NKht,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-02-28T01:53:42.648+0000) > > I just told him that he sucks as a jungler. > > So, they reported me, I think i got couple reports from my team, but enemy team agreed to report our jungle/supp. I was getting ready for another game, went in champ select, and BAAM, message, I was** perma banned**. Once again, I find it hard to believe the only thing you said is "you suck". That isn't enough to trigger a chat restriction. While on that topic, that's the other thing you need to understand. You were temporary banned in December. 2 months isn't enough to "clean your name". How long it takes varies, but at least 3 months is fair estimate (for your case). Any restriction in the meanwhile would lead to a permanent ban. But, like I said, what you said isn't enough to trigger one. If you have the chat logs be sure to share them. Maybe you don't know what is considered toxic. *** > [{quoted}](name=Cix,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=I2J2NKht,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-02-28T01:53:42.648+0000) > > The most offensive thing I've said to someone is that he's a f-in moron. I need u to understand this, because some things they wrote me made me tilted. Is this the reason to get perma banned? After all this time of playing? And not a single warning? What others do doesn't matter. What matters is your own behaviour. You're responsible for your own actions and are "judged" based solely on them. Playing for a long of time doesn't give you a free pass to be toxic/negative. It doesn't matter if you have 10k "clean" games and just 1 game where you tell someone to take their own life. That 1 game is enough to grant you a temporary suspension. With that in mind, you actually got a warning. The temporary ban was your first and final warning. *** > [{quoted}](name=Cix,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=I2J2NKht,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-02-28T01:53:42.648+0000) > > Do i need to send a ticket to Riot or something to look this up Feel free to do so here: [Riot Support](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new). Don't be hopeful. *** > [{quoted}](name=Cix,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=I2J2NKht,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-02-28T01:53:42.648+0000) > > By the way. when u get banned, they say something like : "Other players judged your comms to be offensive", and "everyone deserve respect on the rift". But where's my respect? How can my comments be judged by other players, that offended me way more? The "other players" are the majority of the community.
Hello, thank you for taking time to read my thread, and to actually review my game, I appreciate it. I agree with you on some statements but I'm going to reply on them separately. In many years of playing the game, I've gotten a pretty good idea about what 'toxic' is. So, 1. I did get a ban for simply saying 'outplayed', because It was one of maybe 3 messages I sent to all chat. The other two were something like: You should be in bed, It's late'. When I wrote 'outplayed', THEY started flaming ME, being very offensive, and wiriting 'OUTPLAYED NOOB' every time they got a kill, but I didn't report them because I took the whole thing as a joke. I don't have chat logs, you may or may not believe me, there's nothing I can do about that, but only I know the truth. 2. Again, thanks for reviewing my game, you are right about some things, but, even though she "shouldn't" gank, what do you think about this? Hecarim is top non-stop, I did ward the bushes, and he's there, then, their midlaner occasionaly comes my lane, they easily dive me under turret. Meanwhile, evelynn is doing top golems, without even thinking about stepping in the action. And that happened a couple of times. Maybe I was supposed to stay base? Or something? I don't know. The point is, the game itself doesn't matter, I did play badly let's say, **but**, what does matter is the reason I got perma banned. I probably didn't get it for going 0/6, or did I? 3. I'm going to post in the P.S the chat log from the game, please, do read it, and I'll be happy to comment with you again. I'm not trying to "clear my name" since I never was the flamer type, and I found it pretty hard to believe that I got perma ban. 4. This system is based on auto-banning players, I remember when Tribunal was active and players could actually vote If someone should get a penalty or not. Not anymore, as far as I know. So, half of my team flames me and says way too many offensive things to me, just because I played a bad game, but my responses were too mild to be punished, but I get a few reports for being negative etc. and get auto-banned. I mean, we do lack game knowledge in gold, and If I think that someone sucks as a player, I don't see the reason to get perma banned for saying this lol. For example, my jungler was offensive towards me, my bot, and mid, and the enemy jungler saying "BEST HECA EUNE", "ONLY GOLD 4 HAHA, NOOB", "THIS IS NOT MY MAIN ACC U STUPID KID", then if I say ur just jealous ur silver, it's offensive? No, It's the truth. Anyways, I'm posting the chat log as P.S Sincerely, Cix
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