Encrux (EUW)
: "Report this guy!", "Report him 9x", "Report him for feeding pls!"
> With Riot's automated report system, that analyses language automatically, it shouldn't even be a problem to display a popup after the game, telling you that what they said was wrong. The way system is explained to me suggests that it doesnt do this during the game, but after it.
: Second year of trying to get unbanned
You broke the rules so you lost your account. It's time to move on, you're wasting your time with trying to get that account back.
: solo carry still possible?
> can someone pls tell me if its still possible to solo carry games in this season Yes. > if so what champions are the easiest to solo carry with Your best, the ones you have most sucess with.
: > [{quoted}](name=Enjutsu,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=pX2hLhih,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-08-17T05:54:34.875+0000) > > They way you make this thread is pretty bad, it's unnecesserily long, are you trying to hide something? or confuse the reader with the long text? Why would long text mean anything like that? Writing complex issue with reasoning and explanations require long text. Are you so impatient and ADHD you cannot read long text? Why are you against long texts? > I think you're trying here to go for the old excuse that consequences matter, like someone else started this or that it was self defence(awnsering the flamer, but from outside perspective this is jsut spreading the toxicity. Im gonna say it like that reasons for toxicity doesnt matter. Also punishments here do start with mild ones too, unless the toxicity was quite severe. Ignoring consequences makes system vengeance system. Your only counter is "this is not real world, thus we should not do things properly!". I am sorry, but internet is subset of real world. The game players are in real world. The discussion is in real world even if the game is not. The fact more toxic person gets away with it and less toxic trying to stop him gets punished, proves that *consequences does matter and ignoring them does let really toxic but manipulative people get away with it*. > You're repeating yourself for some reason you're bringing back assassins and the fact that victims have to defend themself, stay on topic. Also the toxic player is not the vitim, he's rule breaker, the guilty. Toxic player can be victim, if someone more toxic attacks him until he breaks. Words are not just words. Words does massive damage. IT is totally insane to think bullies does no harm to their victims if they do not cause physical harm. But you are saying that toxicity should be punished, but only if it is reported. > this isnt real world, there's no need for a full on trial. I am sorry, but this argument is insane proving you are totally ignorant of human psychology. You are sitting in real world when you play. You are in real world even if you watch into fantasy game environment. If you think you are not, you are insane. > If player gives too many false reports he loses report value. And only false report is report which is not investigated by AI. > one violation (unless it's quite sever) won't get you punished, it takes multiple games, also it's NOT judged based games per day, but simply games in total. One violation is not enough? Then why I am argued that one violation is enough? And Riot games support told me after I asked of my punishment it does not matter how many games I am not reported. Give me *proof that this has changed*. Support told me it does not matter how many games you behave well. IT does not matter how many games you get reported. > there are 4 punishment stages, 2 chat restrictions, 14day ban and finally permament ban, if toxicity was sever you skip firt 2. If you don't fix your behavior after first punishment your next one is more sever. And those stages are permanent. > Well you would be right, if players didnt come to boards themself to try and defend themself, but only to prove that system works. I am sorry, but saying that system which is blatantly flawed is not flawed is like saying *emperor has clothes* and then beat the kid into pulp saying *emperor does not have clothes*. YOu are doing latter. You beat everybody daring to challenge the Riot policy. I would be glad if I could prove system works. If I would not be called troll and get attacked by adcs for "stealing his kills or minions" when I do have relic shield and I only try to last hit when I have stacks. YOu have not proved system works, but argued that system works, and anybody saying opposite is lying. System would work if those people saying to me "kill yourself" get banned. System would work if players admitting they are high elo player "helping a friend" would get banned. Op.gg - our only reliable source as Riot refuse to give it direclty - tell opposite. We have thousands of cases toxic people get away with it. > Your view is way too idealistic, this isnt real world this is a video game and we have millions of games played evry day, what you're requesting is way too slow and what we're punishing is toxic loudmouth players, not murderers or thiefs. > Lastly you simply lack some knowledge how the system works in general. You are really thinking mental attack is not severe, as it does not cause physical harm. I can assure you that there is not a single psychiatrist agreeing with you. Words does permanent harm. That harm is actually more severe than physical harm, as *you cannot prove it easily*. Your only call is "this is network game, and people should be let being totally toxic, if they can get away with it". I am sorry to tell you, but network exists in real world. It is part of real world. The things would be different for turn based game, or fiction. Fiction does not require participants actively immerse into it. I have whole time argued that AI system should handle all chat, not just reported chat, if it would be as good as Riot tell us, it should do it. There would be no false positives. But I have been told people that it would create false positives. Then how does it not cause false positives among reported people? The fact MMO community is totally toxic, bigot, and hatred speech filled, is fact. I usually spent time only on subset which is not like that. Most MMORPG are not safe for this. Worst is Counter Strike. The community teach kids that forced sex threats is normal.
Since this long text is geting out of hand, im gonna shorten this. Long text in itself is not bad, but evrything has to be on topic and for a reason in your case it's not, you really love talking about unrelated stuff. So you're finally showing your true colors. I suspected you were banned, because this thread looked awefully like a fancy way of saying that some people might have reasons for flaming and can be excused for it. This is ussually what people who got banned do. If you want to try and prove your innocence and how system doesnt work, then show us your chat logs, do the public thing you're requesting in your thread. Lead by example.
: Riot Can You Stop Sharing API? It makes me get camped
What evryone's trying to say is that API is not the reason you're geting ganked as much. If you want to continue climbing you're gonna have to play with jungler in mind, learn to track him and ward at correct time.
: The current Tribunal is Vengeance, not Justice tool
They way you make this thread is pretty bad, it's unnecesserily long, are you trying to hide something? or confuse the reader with the long text? > Justice system does understand consequences, and blames initial violator of laws and rules. It does give mild punishment to those who react to violation of rules, but scales it according to the violation. Equal power is allowed. This is essential for justice system. The right to defend yourself. I think you're trying here to go for the old excuse that consequences matter, like someone else started this or that it was self defence(awnsering the flamer, but from outside perspective this is jsut spreading the toxicity. Im gonna say it like that reasons for toxicity doesnt matter. Also punishments here do start with mild ones too, unless the toxicity was quite severe. > Justice system is transparent: you can check all cases. You can check whether some case was punished or not. You can check reasons why the punishment occur. This is very important aspect of justice system. Vengeance system is not transparent. **It refuses to give reason of punishment,** but instead just bestow the punishment harshly on behalf of wronged party. Assassins and hired killers are perfect example of vengeance system. Victim has no right to defend. All matters how victims feel, not what really happened. Checking all cases is important in real life law, but not here. Because most cases are pretty much exactly the same. Still we used to have tribunal where we could judge whatever to ban that player or not and Riot did suggest we could get that back. Reason for a ban is ALWAYS GIVEN. You're repeating yourself for some reason you're bringing back assassins and the fact that victims have to defend themself, stay on topic. Also the toxic player is not the vitim, he's rule breaker, the guilty. > How we could alter the system to more positive? First, and foremost, start giving victims fair trial. If you are accused, instead of just passing the punishment, give all data to the accused party, and allow them to have chat with developers. Riot should have this all data - which should include the game events. this isnt real world, there's no need for a full on trial. > You cannot rely players on giving fair reports. Especially when community has twisted into toxic horror it is present. That is why person doing report should be investigated too. If it appears he is breaking rules worse than accused, he should be punished for it swiftly. If player gives too many false reports he loses report value. > One violation is enough is totally wrong way to go for justice. It is perfect for vengeance. All it needs you get person tilt regardless how blatantly you violate rules. This is bad. RIot also have to start count frequency as per game not per day. And check all non-reported games to see how positive player was in them. This is very important, as it would also judge positiveness not just negativeness. one violation (unless it's quite sever) won't get you punished, it takes multiple games, also it's NOT judged based games per day, but simply games in total. > The current punishment system is also bad, as there is really only one punishment - ban. The lesser steps which are permanent, and thus breaking rules bad enough mean you have nothing to lose. You lose your account anyway, thus you can go all-out violation of rules. there are 4 punishment stages, 2 chat restrictions, 14day ban and finally permament ban, if toxicity was sever you skip firt 2. If you don't fix your behavior after first punishment your next one is more sever. > The reason for public punishment is simple: it tell people justice is done. It give us information how well system works. Well you would be right, if players didnt come to boards themself to try and defend themself, but only to prove that system works. Your view is way too idealistic, this isnt real world this is a video game and we have millions of games played evry day, what you're requesting is way too slow and what we're punishing is toxic loudmouth players, not murderers or thiefs. Lastly you simply lack some knowledge how the system works in general.
blissbomb (EUW)
: CONCERNING SUPPORT PLAYERS
I don't think alistar is even what people would consider a Top tier support pick. I mean he's fine, but still. Alsitar just makes your whole argument weird.
: ye i know and its ok that i got banned i mean i deserved it ofc i was toxic but ye as u said those didnt get banned for inting
What do you mean by inting?
PixelzGr (EUNE)
: The people who say 'RIOT i dont deserve the ban'
To be fair, feeder buster can %%%% up sometimes. Other systems seem to be fairly reliable.
: Im about to quit League, this is unacceptable!
There isnt really any rule who gets this skin line. It's just that this skin line is based on magical girl genre so i guess most people expect it to be given only to girls, but what people don't know is that recently there were few "magical boys" anime, so Ez geting a skin is not that unrealistic.
ThePikol (EUNE)
: Should I try to climb further or stay on this Gold V to get reward?
: Why are there so many bad players in Gold Elo?
The difference between gold and silver is not that big. There are no hard lines between leagues, just because you suddenly hit gold 5 doesnt mean evrything is gonna suddenly change. Leagues are fake, they're only for our own satisfaction, for us to have some tangible goals.
DjToodles (EUW)
: New players experience, leveling/runes/masteries/champs/blindpick and why it sucks
Others have talked about a bunch of other poitns so i'll add one more thing that no one mentioned or probably don't know. I think it happened around the begining of this season where Riot removed draft pick from EUNE and other servers, then there was a huge outcry form the community and we got it back at peak hours. At the time when we got it Riot also mentioned that they intend to change blind pick, give it some midle version between blind and draft pick.
: So one half of the community is convinced we have a tank meta, the other half is convinced we havea lethality/assassin meta.
They kinda go hand in hand, if assassin are strong, tanks are the best option to deal with them.
: Why does riot constantly want assassins to be dominant?
They just want to make them viable, well to be more precise make assassin items viable, because after the first buffs evrything settled down players stopped using assassin items.
: Kayle and yi boost
> so I wanted to know how boosters do it and don't say boosters are just better Boosters are better, i mean they are bossters.
: 14 days ban/Perma
You can get instant 14 day ban for excessive flaming.
: This is so bs
Your next ban is permament, i'd suggest to think this throuth.
: The quests arent support friendly
For me as support main it is a bit of an issue, but i don't realy care about rewards so for me it's notthat bad.
: Please add a option to...
I don't think this will happen, it would increase Queue times.
: Why ARURF is flawed, and default URF is a better option.
The issue with URF is that you'll be seeing the same champions evry game even with 10 bans, those 10 bans would just replace current top picks with other top picks.
FeefaAll (EUW)
: Lack of knowledge in low elos and how the **** can we improve that
I don't think it's really for Riot to improve community skill level it's for players themself, still Riot did give us practice tool. also: > Support main here, still silver because I dont play that much, **can't invest as much time as I wish, but that's not the issue.** it is an issue, the amount of ranked games you've played is really small, previous season it was only about 50 games and this season it looks like you've managed to get in only around 20 games(most of them were quite recent). At least you have a main role, but you still play alot of different supports
Primo88 (EUW)
: Adjust Morellonomicon,create one ap path item which will apply grievous wounds?
But you don't buy morello for GW, it's just an extra.
: One game in ARURF and...
I don't like this mode, people tend to take it seriously and because im rather high ranked, people expect some sort of magic from me with random champions. Also this mode is increadibly snowbally, i don't understand how can people love it so much, you play it at the expense one side geting uterly deswtroyed.
: Can we focus for a second and ban the right people?
> [{quoted}](name=What did i zed,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=J2L37tdN,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-08-09T20:35:54.402+0000) > > First of all, I didn't get banned,never have, neither did i play with a player like this recently, this has been in my mind for a while and i thought of making a post about it. I bet this guy got banned, at least sometime in the past or recently played with someone toxic.
: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa , man, play just garen in every role you will get intro challenger 800 lp
Sorry, my bad you're right, how could i have been so foolish. GAREN IN ALL ROLES.
: I really don't know what to say...
Kayn came out weak, Xayah came a bit on a strong side, but nothing too special Rakan is also only okay Camile is the only on release in a long time that came out broken OP, but right now after many nerfs, she's okay.
: Bump.
She got changes on PBE, basiclly Riot intends to force her to use her W more. > Howling Gale (Q) cooldown increased to from 14/13/12/11/10 to 17/16/15/14/13. > > Zephyr (W): > Damage lowered from 60/115/170/225/280 to 60/105/150/195/240. > Mana cost lowered from 40/50/60/70/80 to 0 at all ranks. > [New Effect] "Damaging a champion with Zephyr restores mana and reduces Janna's cooldowns" > Mana Restore: 40/50/60/70/80 mana > Cooldown reduction: 2 seconds > > > Eye of the Storm (E) > Mana cost increased from 70/80/90/100/110 to 90/100/110/120/130 > Cooldown increased from 10 seconds to 13 seconds.
: No, play one role , just one role and one champion in every lane, Garen top garen supp garen mid garen jng garen adc
There's no need to go to such extremes, play one champions in it's supposed role when you can, but have an alternative pick when you have to play it something else(autofill) or one-trick support and don't bother with autofill. Also to OP, besides what ChiTenshi said, another problem you have is that you don't play enough ranked games, you barely have any ranked games played, previous season it looks like you barely had 50 games played and this one looks like only, i don't know 10? We're already geting close to end of season and you've barely played.
Barrosy (EUW)
: How to deal with team comps of which some players (might) be new?
Don't bother explaining anything, geting better at the game isnt something you can do during the game, maybe your explanation will help, but it will probably kick in for him in the next games, just think what YOU can/should do.
IvanBrony (EUNE)
: I DID IT GUYS
2 years, that's alot. *checks op.gg* hmm, it's probably because you didnt play that much and even the small amount of experience you've had was spread out among many different champions and roles. either way, congrats.
: I understand that they can't ban every single bot, especially when you can create as many accounts as you want in less than 5 minutes without needing a legit e-mail, but these bots are level 20, not level 5 or 10. This means they've dodged the system quite a lot.
They ban them in waves, not when they detect them. It's to prevent them from figuring out how they got detected and they wanna be sure those they gonna bann are bots.
Gasburger (EUW)
: Is Riot's balance team actually serious about this buff?
You missed one important detail: > Her Q is being slightly reworked, too. The bonus damage will no longer be able to crit, taking away a large portion of her ability to two-shot squishy targets, which is a nerf against squishier targets. Riot is going even further on her identity as tank shredder and making her even weaker against squishys.
: TBH, I no longer give a goddam f about the champions backstories ever since they started re-writing them basically whenever it suits them. I take great pleasure in game universes which manage to tell a CONSISTENT story and DEVELOP characters over time. League stopped delivering that a long time ago, because rewriting is not consistency, and random change is not development.
It's not whenever it suits them, they just dropped the whole powerfull champions controlled by weak summoners and evryone has to have some contrived reason to join league. That limited Riots story teling abilitys. So any champion that in his lore still has one of those things is gonna have his lore changed.
: Do I deserve to get banned?
: why katas E have delay?
Because counterplay
Fathands (EUW)
: Riot has admitted wrongfully banning Ascension team.
If this starts geting posted multiple times again, like those stupid videos.
HiTMaNNNN (EUW)
: so youre questioning my credibilty because i wrote 15 instead of 14???? wow they were banned for "feeding" how about singed as a champion? he usually feeds his asss off to win. those guys did exactly the same in order to win and they WON here are the link in the yt comment section https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/195463568089546752/344561181446635520/nR_XukOdToq4C3EfFxsgPQ.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/195463568089546752/344561188484415488/buV739O9QsWdRDVSeTOBkQ.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/195463568089546752/344561190053216256/YbNmr3AQRYKBuSIdv15dSA.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/195463568089546752/344561193203007498/neMXpxrRSt2-fWukX3E8Nw.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/195463568089546752/344561199028895744/v5b0ffzlRo_Z64It4cbYLA.png
World is a big place and people tend to make very bold claims or stupid claims.
: How can it be one-sided? When the only people who can ban someone are from riot. When someone does a decision, of course they will represent riot. Their mistake = riots mistake. That's how this industry works.
From what i've gathered they were cought by an automated system, it was not a decission, it was not manual, also not all of them were punished. They werent banned because of this specific strategy. Also you instantly assume it was Riots mistake, don't consider any other possiblitys, isnt this pretty one sided?
: The SG skin line is based of off Sailor Moon. Most of the characters are female IIRC.
Actually recently there was a male version "magical girl" anime(by recently i mean like this year or something like that).
: Inting. They got banned for inting. At least that's what the popup on their accounts stated.
Then that means they got cought by feeder buster, not because of this specific strategy.
: WHY BUFF FIZZ EARLY GAME WTF
Heh heh heh, almost as OP as zed? Then you won't like what im about to say: Riot is planning a small buff next patch for Zed too. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
: "I paid money on this game, so Riot should give me back my Perma banned account"
Pro tip: If you paid money and stil got banned that means it wasnt enough, so for the next account spend even more. It's only the question of how much you've spent Trust me.
: 5 players were 14-day banned for "abusing" a strat in Ascension
it's a 5-man premade strategy so only enemy team can report it(or they reported themself, but that would be stupid). And even if enemy team did report them then for what? which system cought them and if it was a manual report, judging based on few other cases it ussually takes quite alot of time for Riot to notice stuff like that and punish, also stuff that does get manually punished by Riot is ussually a toxic strategy for your own team, because it sabotages your own chances of victory, but this strategy seems to be about winning and it's working. My question, do we know for what exactly they were banned, are we sure it's not for toxicity? Because im guessing they would sure use chat alot while doing it.
: Riot, BLAME THE GAME MODE, NOT THE PLAYERS! - Feedback on Ascension incident.
Your claim is really one-sided, you're instantly blaming Riot. the way you're describing it sounds like it's a 5-man premade strategy so only enemy team can report it(or they reported themself, but that would be stupid). And even if enemy team did report them then for what? which system cought them and if it was a manual report, judging based on few other cases it ussually takes quite alot of time for Riot to notice stuff like that and punish also stuff that does get manually punished by Riot is ussually a toxic strategy for your own team, because it sabotages your own chances of victory, but this strategy seems to be about winning and it's working. I don't see a reason why would Riot ban them for this way of playing.
HiTMaNNNN (EUW)
: Unconventional strategies in league: why some things are allowed and others aren't?
Your claims sound fishy. 15 day suspension doesnt exist, it's 14 day suspension, unless you misscklicked the number key or something like that. Singed support was banned because he wasnt working with the team, it wasnt really a strategy that worked and teammates didnt like it also his punishment was executed manually by Riot after tons of reports. The strategy you're describining sounds like it's executed as 5-man premade, so there isnt really for anyone to report, except for the enemy team. Next as you described it sounds like this strategy works, except for being annoying to deal with for the enemy team. So it doesnt sound like this is punishable. Lastly the Febos mentioned that not all of them were punished so im guessing they were banned because they were toxic and not because of this strategy.
Borieko (EUW)
: Oxygen-Esports Looking For Coaches and Analysts!
AbL1R (EUW)
: Roles Filling must not exist!
Idealy it shoudn exist, too bad things arent ideal.
: Actually, URF has already been released. In NA. Like a week ago.
That's impossible, patches come out globally. Sure some specific experimental stuff gets released only on some specific servers, but urf isnt one of those. Im guessing your source for that is NA youtubers, but they probably forgot to mention that theyr footage is from PBE or at least expected you to notice it yourself. Like a week ago URF PBE cycle began too.
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