: From your experience is teamwork more common in Ranked compared to Blind/Draft pick?
I don't know, i barely play normal draft, they're too casual for me and too boring. it's jsut not the same when games don't have any weight.
: There is nothing to improve because it is a %%%%ing 4vs5... I am climbing when the teams are even. So i don't need to improve Jesus christ. I am complaining about how player in diamond 5 are %%%%ing trolls because most of them want to stay hard stuck D5 and don't care about the out come of the game or their team m8's. You really can't read can you?
hmm, sounds like you will be stuck in D5 forever then.
Mreeshai (EUW)
: I watched his stream video, linked in above post, and I don't think he's raging like this in the game.
It's not about raging. It's about how you see the ranked. He wants to climb, but is blaming his team for the loss. By blaming the team you don't get anything out of it. "It was teams fault so there's no reason for me to improve" There's also the fact that ranked is not a sprint it's a marathon, what matters is what you do in the long run, not specific games.
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: Because changing yourself is the only thing you can change. Better question is why you don't like the idea of changing yourself? Also im not troliing,. im genuienly trying to help, even if you don't like hearing what im saying.
> [{quoted}](name=MaIzahard,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=OEoxHz0v,comment-id=00020000000000000000000100010000000000000000000000000005,timestamp=2018-02-21T16:20:50.605+0000) > > I have feelings like my games with plat and diax ppl are xxx times easier than these with silvers on my second account. Just ppl know what to do. I help them early, we will do super early pressure and we got it. In silver, it doesnt matter if I kill the most dangerous enemy targets (and the fed ones), because my team dont know how to get lead properly. So dont tell me that I can carry 1v5 games, because turrets, ihibs, barons, drakes, etc wont be taken by themself, we need to get them as the whole team. So if u are gonna win or lose a game - its total loterry. Sometimes yes - u can 1v5, because enemies are so bad, but its not regular. Everything depends on what u and ur enemies get to their team. What are you talking about? what discussion are you continuing here?
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: Because changing yourself is the only thing you can change. Better question is why you don't like the idea of changing yourself? Also im not troliing,. im genuienly trying to help, even if you don't like hearing what im saying.
I mean in general. Talking about specific games is pointles and stupid, it's all jsut the luck of a draw. You're the one who keeps steering away the conversation.
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: Because changing yourself is the only thing you can change. Better question is why you don't like the idea of changing yourself? Also im not troliing,. im genuienly trying to help, even if you don't like hearing what im saying.
I didnt ask you why would you want to play, i don't care. You said you're losing games because of an afk teammate, but there should also be afk players in enemy team too
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: Because changing yourself is the only thing you can change. Better question is why you don't like the idea of changing yourself? Also im not troliing,. im genuienly trying to help, even if you don't like hearing what im saying.
What about salty enemy diamond players who rage quit after 1 death and destroy games?
: Man why are you even still talking about change my self? Have you not been reading what has been posted? or you not good at English? Why because sometimes you have to try for change, even if you know it might not happen. Go troll somewhere else you're getting annoying at this point.
Because changing yourself is the only thing you can change. Better question is why you don't like the idea of changing yourself? Also im not troliing,. im genuienly trying to help, even if you don't like hearing what im saying.
: Ranked game's are not hard when you have people that know what they're doing. You can judge a game by what champs have been picked. If you've played the game long enough you will relise how long a game should last before your team start to fall of and lose, or how long it needs to win. Then comes how well you perform in the game. You should try to listen more instead of talking.
You can't change or decide your teammates and what they will do,the only thing you can change is you yourself. > You should try to listen more instead of talking. Sorry, but then why did you even come to boards? to whine about bad teammates which you can't do anything about? It's not gonna change anything.
MaIzahard (EUNE)
: Dude, will **u** ever realize that every one or two games **u** get to **ur** team better or worse players and not every game is so easy to win? For example, once time ur botlane wins, once time feds hard and anyone can face enemy botlane then. I brought an example with botlane because there are TWO players that need to win by teamwork, if one of them does mistakes, the second one is going to be injured by that person, plus whole team. I also noticed how desperated about** ur **arguments **u** **ar** that to proof the truth of ur words u started to rebuke my mistakes that I did ON PURPOSE if u didnt see that yet. Typical haters from internet always do that so u need to do that too, haha. And at the end I will answer to these words: "yes, those games do exist, but they're a minority, but if they are a majority for you then it means you're currently not good enough to climb further." I play lol for 2 years, and its my first MOBA game. First my season was gold 5, second diax 5. Seriously, If i couldnt be so objective like Im for 2 years to now, i have never wouldnt hit diax so fast. In my eyes all my games looks like: I need to abuse every opportunity to win game, but If enemies are too organized with each other and my team cant really help me instead of feeding or "afk-playing" and giving our all objectives to the enemies, all I can do is /ff. Better games are when at least 2 lanes are won, then we can easily make "ff15" for enemies by making early pressure at objecties and snowballing. Only late game can change that if the game will reach it. Anyway, good luck with hitting diax5 again!
> Dude, will u ever realize that every one or two games u get to ur team better or worse players and **not every game is so easy to win?** Where did you get an idea that evry game is supposed to be easy to win? Ranked is hard, evry ranked game is hard and the higher you climb the harder it becomes, easy wins are rare(well at least as long as you're "climbing"). > I also noticed how desperated about ur arguments u ar that to proof the truth of ur words u started to rebuke my mistakes that I did ON PURPOSE if u didnt see that yet. Typical haters from internet always do that so u need to do that too, haha. I wasnt talking about it from a gramatical point of view, i felt more insulted from the fact that you assumed that i still am hardstuck in plat, how did you check my op.gg account to come to that conclusion? After a huge jump in rank from previous season, i did get stuck in plat , but i overcame it and it seems like the same thing is happening to you too(at least geting stuck in plat part).
: No every one gets trolls/afk's but what are the odds first 2 games of diamond are lost due no fault of my own. I just played a game and every one tried and had fun. Amazing what 24h does.
Are you suggesting that Riot is intentionally looking for bad players to put into your team? Don't they have something better to do?
MaIzahard (EUNE)
: Enjutsu, It doesnt matter how u want to 1v5, u just cant win a team game alone. U ar hardstack platinum for many seasons. U should know that there are sometimes situations where at least one player cut wings of the rest team down and doesnt let them to carry him. U cant live with those stereotypes created by youtubers where they are supposed to 1v9 from bronze to diax. Its illusion.
> Enjutsu, It doesnt matter how u want to 1v5, u just cant win a team game alone. sure, which is why you have 4 other teammates > U ar hardstack platinum for many seasons. what do you mean "ar"?i guess you mean are, but still. I WAS stuck in plat, but i ended last season in D4 and im already halfway throuth plat 1. > U should know that there are sometimes situations where at least one player cut wings of the rest team down and doesnt let them to carry him. yes, those games do exist, but they're a minority, but if they are a majority for you then it means you're currently not good enough to climb further. > U cant live with those stereotypes created by youtubers where they are supposed to 1v9 from bronze to diax. Its illusion. Sorry, i don't watch those, it's a waste of time, there's nothing to learn from those, maybe you should stop watching them.
: You just keep talking crap, there is no chance in hell that i am winning a diamond game, when my team is A. trolling or B. AFK. Those are impossible situation. No matter how skillful i am at my own lane. Its has nothing to do with my mentality.
What about enemy team trolls and afk players? or are you going to suggest that they apear only on your team?
Vespaj (EUNE)
: Well, In my opinion blue side is waaay easier to gank, because if minions are in middle of lane, its just easier and less time to react, assuming there is no ward ofc
I would say it's easier to gank from red side because of the tri-bush
Wise Alien (EUNE)
: The good, The bad and The league of legends!
I guess you just realised your limits
: I got to diamond on my own skill and determination nothing else. This is a post about afk/trolls not bad games. So unless you have something meaning full to say. Have a good day
But then where's "your own skill" in this talk about others? > So unless you have something meaning full to say. Don't you mean agree with you?
: What mentaility, the mentaility to win games where my team doesn’t afk or throw a fit because they where just losing the Laning phase. Sorry for asking for people to just play the game.My mentality is perfect that’s why I hit diamond with 58% win rate. Unless you have something helpful to add no need to comment. Happy day to you sir
Yes, this one. You're looking too much at others, instead of yourself. Likely forgot what or how got you into diamond.
: Diamond 5 +
You're gonna be stuck D5 forever. Or at least as long as you have this mentality.
: What is wrong with professional players that they actually practice 10-14 hours a day?
Is it really that extreme? If it is a i would atribute that to people understimating the fact that it's a video game and esport scene is pretty new.
Pyrosen (EUW)
: Who do you think is broken?
{{champion:117}}
: Bland and uninspired. Do we really need another generic Marry Sue in the game?
I don't think this story telling term really works in a video game, especially one like this.
Vespaj (EUNE)
: No %%%%ing title
Take notice where jungler started and if he started bot, ward up at 3 min mark. Also i would say top is more favorable for blue side than red side.
: When are you ready for Ranked games??
When you get bored of the casual normals and really want to test your skill.
Darkade (EUW)
: If cassiopiea cannot buy boots...
Well since you're asking, guess im gonna have to awnser this: The reason Cassiopiea doesnt buy boots is because she's a snake lady without any legs, so she doesnt need boots. If you use logic and evrything becomes clear.
Pyrosen (EUW)
: Casual solo queue players look up to the professionals, that's why we're the casuals and they're where they are lol Pro-scene play influences the meta changes because it highlights who's strong, the only change to solo queue again was Katarina so I don't see why we shouldn't be looking at it in a proscene perspective because we aren't pros ourselves, seems stupid
I don't really fallow what's currently going on in pro-scene, but i don't believe that it's only katarina there that was nerfed only because of soloq. I mean:{{champion:11}} {{champion:23}} , do you think Riot buffed them in hopes to finally see them in pro-scene? > I don't see why we shouldn't be looking at it in a proscene perspective because we aren't pros ourselves, seems stupid because it's an organized play, the way plays are executed there and in soloQ are diffent and game is played very differently in an organized enviroment compared to soloQ. Even LS himself said that. FlexQ and soloQ are already a bit different too. Some of the changes in the patch notes happened not because of soloQ but only because of pro-scene, Ryze being the prime example of that. Im just saying that while alot of changes tend to affect pro-play too and alot of what is strong in soloQ tends to be strong in LCS, but game is still balanced more around soloQ and not pro-play.
Pyrosen (EUW)
: The only change in this list that addressed anything outside of high elo / pro play is Katarina because people were abusing her to climb the ladder, everything else is just balance issues according to pro play and high elo as you said So what invalidates a high elo korean players opinion because it's proscene/high elo centric?
The fact that his opinnion is more pro-scene based, it's not as relevant for a casual soloq player. Also as i originally mentioned he also doesnt know the reasons behind the changes either.
Pyrosen (EUW)
: Why would that be an issue? Meta is based around pro-play...
Meta is based aroung high-elo, but not necesserily around pro play. Riot does adress stuff that is too popular or too strong in pro-play, but there arent that many pro-play related balance issues. Well except for worlds patch, that one is ussually heavily pro-play centric.
: How low can you fall just to win a video game
I can fall so low that even if i think my team is a bunch of of idiots with not hands im still not gonna say anything. Also what you're describing isnt exactly what iwould calling falling low for a win. It's falling low just to satisfy your ego.
Pyrosen (EUW)
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_M42wMvP1U get some idea of what you're talking about
He also tends to not know the actuall reasons behind buffs and nerfs, i think he also takes patch notes reasons as "serious". Also the issue with his rundown is that most of the time it's very high elo or just straight up pro scene centric.
BlueFoxNL (EUW)
: Theres no such thing as elo hell...
> .if u play that way u should climb.... where did you get this idea? this isnt a single player game. Still, if you want to climb that's the least you should be doing.
HGHam (EUW)
: Does Rito ban people for intentional feeding? If not, why even have it as a report option?
Riot does ban people for intentional feeding, but the term is heavily missused. People tend to call intentional feeding simply geting killed.
Alex Gunboy (EUNE)
: Horrible losing steak
Well then, there's your problem, you depend too much on luck, decrease that and increase your skill.
: It's actually very obvious why this happens, just look at Dota 2: killing is an essential part of gameplay, why? Because you can deny the farm gold by killing the enemy, in league you don't lose much for dying other than some xp and creeps, it's the enemy that wins some extra, so why bother? Just keep farming and wait for a mistake from the enemy! Riot is trying to further themselves from Dota 2 by refusing to punish player for dying, but in reality this is killing their viewer base...
Death in this game is already quite punishing, you don't lose gold directly, but you still lose quite alot from a death. Enemy gets stronger from the kill he got, that kill will obviously gonna be fallowed up by a push to the turret, which will make you lose some minnions, which means losing gold and experience, you also lose gold and experience from the fact that you're dead and not in lane too. In pro scene players are really good and they can easily abuse this kind of advantage to snowball out of control.
DasIstNyul (EUNE)
: Speculating and commenting the champion buffs and nerfs (a.k.a. the logic behind) (personal opinion)
I would suggest to kinda ignore reasons given in the patch notes. If you want to find actuall reasons for buffs and nerfs you can try here: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner or here: http://www.surrenderat20.net/ Ussually actuall reasons for buffs or nerfs are simply that champion is too strong or too weak and Riot has to change **SOMETHING** to place them in a better place and then they give some made up explanation in the patch notes. With actuall reasons patch notes would be pretty short and boring.
: they have been putting much more effort into it especially with the Noxus lore changes but what i want is more. Reading the Noxus page was highly entertaining and doing that for the other regions and champions will give players a little more to do in the game. Surely others must agree
You miss the main point. Riot has been constantly releasing and craeting more and new lore and they're taking this really seriously so it takes time.
: Ah hell, I go coin and am still an opressive laner. Maxing Q is enough. Base damage is pretty good.
If you play early agressivly then going spellthief will double down on your agressivness.
Mattie010 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Enjutsu,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=tTG1Eb1I,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-02-15T05:03:38.365+0000) > > Track enemy jungler, always know where he is. Yes, but how? :) That's the thing i struggle with. Same for enemy midlaner tbh
As support main myself, here's how to track from support percpective: Watch where jungler started, if enemy bot is late to lane that meeans he started blue. it takes about 1 minute to get to the other side of the map so keep in mind that he is lgoing to the top side, so at 3 min mark look at the minimap to find a confirmation for that if he's there and what happens there. If he does show up assume that he will be bot in another minute. ward up at half a minute if he didnt show up top side again. If he didnt show up top side then keep your ward. Etc. In general try to think 1 minute and half a minute intervals because it ussually takes about half a minute to get from one quadrant of the map to another. Try to get evry bit of information where jungler is as well as the situation of his camps to predict where he is and will be. Don't just mindlessly ward whenever you have a ward, wards are a recourse and you have to manage them correctly, if jungler showed up top side that means he won't be bot for about a minute bot so warding now would be a waste of a ward.
Atreides52 (EUNE)
: Eu_East to Eu_West
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: It's strange to find Soraka weak. Her biggest weakness right now is that she became very item depended and that hurts in a grievious wounds meta that probally will continue with the itematization changes. This said tho, Soraka isn't that bad right now. She still have above the 50% winrate, is still rated high in soloQ and is still above the average support picks. It's funny to say it's the first time we see Soraka that low on the list. But is that really a bad thing. Soraka players are getting spoiled to be honnest. I do agrea she will need buffs after the AP changes, than picking a mage into her that scales with the new morrello's like {{champion:43}} {{champion:143}} {{champion:63}} {{champion:161}} {{champion:25}} {{champion:90}} {{champion:26}} will have a field day against her. It's really scary to buff a pick like Soraka since she's doing the snowball for her, or the enemy team. Buffing her base healing and nerfing healing item will be a big problem as well since it would just promote her to go for the {{item:3083}} build. It's harder to get now but it's still managable arround level 12.
Whenever i play soraka she also feels fine to me, so it is also weird for me to see people claim she's weak. Regarding new morello, personally i kinda imagined it will replace current liandrys because the reason people got was because of penetration and Ap and new morello semeed to gfill the same role and now more. But looking at some posts regarding it there was an intresting complain that people found building it feeling it not too good, cost being a bit too high or something like that.
: Any Soraka buffs in the future hinted yet?
From what i've seen Riot is aware that soraka is on a weak side. Sometime in the future Riot intends to have a better look at enchanters: > [{quoted}](name=Meddler,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=ypmoIfEc,comment-id=00290002,timestamp=2018-02-14T18:42:20.025+0000) > >We'll likely look at enchanter items in particular at some point moderately soon. Things like amount of shield/heal scaling, how items contribute to enchanter power curves at present etc. This was something riot wanted to do some time ago, but scrapped that because enchanters were on a weak side back then. Personally i find that soraka players tend to play her wrong, they go coin instead spellthief and just play a heal bot. Soraka can be quite an oppressive laner.
: EUW is the realm of salt EUNE is the realm of ego and NA is a combination of the two it's a *pick your poison* situation {{sticker:leblanc-funny}}
where's the eune ego? Evryone just loves talking how shit eune is and how evrything's so wonderfull in euw and how euw is so much better than eune. I mean just look at the comment below.
Mattie010 (EUW)
: How to avoid or turn around ganks?
Track enemy jungler, always know where he is.
Pyrosen (EUW)
: I thought it was globally established that EUNE Diamond is EUW Gold?
You EUW players sure have big egos.
xDarconesQx (EUNE)
: Lose Streak
God damn it, don't abandon your main once things get rough. You're plat 3 shaco main, you're definetly not plat 3 level on other roles and champions.
: Why riot?
Hmm, so you'rea Tryndamere one-trick, but in your latest gmes i don't see any tryndramere at all, mostly a bunch of random stuff. You made a pretty common mistake one-tricks tend to make. You abandoned your main, i bet you climbed a bunch and hit a wall, stoped winning as much as you did before, arent performing as well and you assumed that your champion is just not good enough to continue climbing. Listen, you got your rank as tryndamere one-trick, switching to other champions now means throwing away evrything you learned as tryndamere and starting from scratch, which means losing rank. When you hit a wall you have to persevere and find something to improve to climb further, not give up on evrything that helped you get there. Sorry, but you made this decission and you can't blame anyone else but yourself.
: > If you're unable to do that, perhaps you're not as good as you think. I'm well aware I am not better than the ones I play with. i don't see how this relates to my question at all.
Well that's what makes players climb, the better you are than evryone else, the faster you will climb.
: You may be an exception but I think we've all seen enough toxic players from EUNE over here.
Well EUW players love coming to EUNE and brag about how theyr server is superior, after failing miserably.
DarkFudge (EUW)
: Ranked.
Remmant is a rather questionable item there, while you did say you get it for the vision, but you still don't manage to get significantly more wards than your teammates. There's also the fact that you get {{item:3363}} intsead of {{item:3364}} I know spellthief was bought before the changes to support items, but i find it questionable now. Gunblade is also a bit questionable choice there too, i'd imagine ekko preffers lichbane instead. Other than that to say more i would have to see you play in game.
: no point starting to get good at leauge other how played for 10 years longer then you
You're only level 21, you just started this game you shoudn really worry about ranked yet.
: Latenight EUNE solo/duo ranked que
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