Infernape (EUW)
: Well GLHF. At least they're big enough to admit their mistakes.
They did, and they apologized more than once, and were very friendly about it, and understood my anger.
Funoros (EUNE)
: I got wrongfully banned for 14 days.
Update guys : i got unbanned, yaay :D. https://gyazo.com/f5bc861edfe289c58b8c5061c5fa46ce
: > [{quoted}](name=Funoros,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7scyRKsA,comment-id=000b00000000000100000001,timestamp=2017-01-19T02:08:22.219+0000) > > You're using the fact that i'm a flamer to help your point when the ban was clearly for intentionally feeding, so even if i did flame (which i didn't, i already said that all what i've said this game was "%%%%, wrong runes" and you probably did read that i said that) The ban was still for intentionally feeding. > > The reason why i replied to you in such an offensive manner is because i'm innocent and you're making me take the guilt for something i haven't done, you're calling me a liar which is very offensive to me since i'm not lying, and i'd like someone who works at riot to look at this. > > "he states that you should never give up, now why would the support do that unless it is applicable in this case?" > > You know that the support was just generally giving me advice on how to play, because any intentional feeder is someone who probably gave up, therefore, he told me not to give up, thinking that i did intentionally feed when i obviously didn't, i can clearly tell that you're someone who would easily understand that and i'm not sure what you were thinking when you made this point. > > "''Listen, i got banned for intentionally feeding, and by looking at the video, anyone with a proper functioning brain can tell that i obviously didn't intentionally feed, end of the story.'' > > ^ I didn't call you brainless, i don't know what you're thinking, i just said that anyone with a functioning brain (which could be you) will be able to tell that i obviously didn't directly intentionally feed the enemy team on purpose, i didn't necessarily insult you / anybody with this sentence, furthermore, the reason why i said "i got banned for intentionally feeding" is because you're claiming that i'm toxic (i'm not) , and you're claiming that i got banned because of toxicity (which isn't true) when the ban is obviously for feeding, so even if i was toxic, the ban is still not for toxicity, so your point is invalid. > > "in his video it's shown that he have never left toplane" > > If you were in my situation, what would you do? > > 1) try to kill the lux who one shot you earlier > > 2) the ridiculously fed botlane > > 3) the minions (which is the only thing you literally can kill right now) > > ?? Look at the moment it's your word against mine because we will never see the chat logs, so we just can't be sure if you flamed or not. 1. Don't 2. 1/4/5 121 Thats not really a 'ridiculously fed' vayne is it now? I'd say if you worked together with Yi you would at least be able to kill their botlane and if you play it right even the lux, if the whole team worked together you would be able to kill lee. If I were to look at the timeline in your match history I'd say you were intentionally feeding. First death: Little before 4 minutes Second death: little before 6 minutes, Third death: little after 6 minutes Fourth death: little before 8 minutes Fifth and sixth death: Little before 10 minutes. Your whole team died 4 times before 10 minutes, you died 6 times. You have to admit that looks suspicious. Plus after I pointed out that you were being toxic you are trying to sweet-talk your way out of it. And after this I'm done with this thread.
Oh boy it looks so suspicious that it got me unbanned. https://gyazo.com/f5bc861edfe289c58b8c5061c5fa46ce
: > [{quoted}](name=DJ Buki,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7scyRKsA,comment-id=000b000000000001,timestamp=2017-01-18T08:07:25.676+0000) > > Why are you so skeptic, just watch the goddamn video, and try to compare it to any single person that was ever intentionally feeding. Score is not a good way to find an int. A couple of games ago on my smurf, an enemy Ashe was 4/12/4, she had 4/4/4, but was mad and went on to int. The system didn't ban her (as she is still playing so I know), but she sure was inting and ruining the game, for one game, and was not banned for it. > > Have you never had a game like this? Where you just go in trying to save something that cannot be saved? Or are you challenger? You know why I am being skeptic? Because I am being neutral in the beginning and only form my opinion after reading everything, from what I saw on the boards provided by the banned player and his screenshots and video I get a strong feeling he was intentionally feeding or flaming, he kept picking fights when he shouldn't and I don't care that he is silver 2, he has a lot of decent/okay games meaning he knows what to do. What I do care about is how he blames his team when for example he dies or asked why he didn't group up, in his video he is never shown to have left toplane. Then as Hansiman has said, the chat is not shown to us, but by the way this guy responds on the boards with quite heavy toxicity I feel like he could have been flaming quite a lot especially when you take into consideration that I've been mostly speculating and never said anything offensive towards him whilst he responds with quite some toxicity, for example when someone brings in a valid argument he just replies with ''Listen, i got banned for intentionally feeding, and by looking at the video, anyone with a proper functioning brain can tell that i obviously didn't intentionally feed, end of the story.'' (He actually replied that to me after I said ''You apparently don't know to what lengths banned people will go to try and get unbanned, we will never know if you are lying or not, how much you can tell us that you aren't we just can't know because people will try lying to get their accounts back.''). If we take a look at the supports reply you can see that he isn't talking about just intentionally feeding, https://gyazo.com/03bf4c63aa5481f8b8a67c4a9cc55106 He states that you should never give up, now why would the support do that unless it is applicable in this case? From the video I personally thought he gave up quite early on, that is also report-able and ban-able, so I feel like he may have been banned for not just intentionally feeding but also giving up and flaming. And it is quite easy to disguise intentionally feeding as just 'playing bad', you just pick fights you shouldn't and if you die then you have succeeded, intentionally feeding is just not the stereotype running down a lane under enemy turret and dying. It can take on many forms. ''Have you never had a game like this? Where you just go in trying to save something that cannot be saved? Or are you challenger?'' Yes I have had bad games, I don't quite understand what you mean with that, and no I am of course not a challenger.
You're using the fact that i'm a flamer to help your point when the ban was clearly for intentionally feeding, so even if i did flame (which i didn't, i already said that all what i've said this game was "%%%%, wrong runes" and you probably did read that i said that) The ban was still for intentionally feeding. The reason why i replied to you in such an offensive manner is because i'm innocent and you're making me take the guilt for something i haven't done, you're calling me a liar which is very offensive to me since i'm not lying, and i'd like someone who works at riot to look at this. "he states that you should never give up, now why would the support do that unless it is applicable in this case?" You know that the support was just generally giving me advice on how to play, because any intentional feeder is someone who probably gave up, therefore, he told me not to give up, thinking that i did intentionally feed when i obviously didn't, i can clearly tell that you're someone who would easily understand that and i'm not sure what you were thinking when you made this point. "''Listen, i got banned for intentionally feeding, and by looking at the video, anyone with a proper functioning brain can tell that i obviously didn't intentionally feed, end of the story.'' ^ I didn't call you brainless, i don't know what you're thinking, i just said that anyone with a functioning brain (which could be you) will be able to tell that i obviously didn't directly intentionally feed the enemy team on purpose, i didn't necessarily insult you / anybody with this sentence, furthermore, the reason why i said "i got banned for intentionally feeding" is because you're claiming that i'm toxic (i'm not) , and you're claiming that i got banned because of toxicity (which isn't true) when the ban is obviously for feeding, so even if i was toxic, the ban is still not for toxicity, so your point is invalid. "in his video it's shown that he have never left toplane" If you were in my situation, what would you do? 1) try to kill the lux who one shot you earlier 2) the ridiculously fed botlane 3) the minions (which is the only thing you literally can kill right now) ??
: Still better than meteos and he never got banned
: you had the most cs... I hardly call that intentional. that's like a singed proxy farming, not getting any kills but dying a lot due to getting rushed by the enemies. It is even evident in your build path that you weren't intent on trolling. this would be the part where I question riot for this, but I know one of them would come to {{summoner:11}} me, plus the report/banning system is automated.
thanks for supporting my case, i got called a liar alot today ;l.
: Alright. You will get one upvote from me. Just keep sending tickets and hope for someone to investigate the case.
: as a fellow {{champion:157}} player i should´ve been 2week / permabanned long time ago myself , i had a 1/12/xx game and did the exact same thing OP did , trying to make a play be tilted and get some gold to no avail. so according to the video doctors and people that play badly , one superbad game counts now as intentionally feeding? so if a person doesn´t realise they can in no way in hell win a trade (and he did have 2-3 windows of opportunity to kill lee but he misused his wall) then the person should be banned? also i saw his jungler once in the lane and never again , the jungler should be banned too then for intentionally not trying to help a teammate? what is this community coming to. playing badly and being tilted gets your account locked now? if you only knew how many TERRIBLE games i´ve which can look like intentional feeding but none of them are , you´d ban me too? all i see in this video as someone who reached diamons as highest elo since 2010 when caring about ranked deeply , is that OP didn´t understand the fact he cannot overpower lee without help but tried his damn best to get a kill or minions somehow. lee captivated on this fact overpowered him repeatedly and yas never received help and every other lane probably lost too. it strikes me indeed as a quite unjust ban , but you don´t get ever banned for anything over 1 game. there mustve been previous offences and i´ve been unjustly banned in path of exile myself for talking about RMT 5 years down the drain bunch of legacy items probably gone , guess how im feeling about it ? And still talking to their support but they´re judge and jury no way for me to defend myself. time will tell and just try to avoid "playing bad" i guess in the future at least youre not permad but 14day banned "only".
i know right, i'm simply being blamed for every single mistake of the game, and people are analysing the %%%% out of the game just because it got accidently picked up by the system.
Trick2G69 (EUNE)
: you didnt realy int but you probably got in an argument with your team saying something like "now im gonna int" or something like "now i will troll" and the bot picked it up.
i never chatted, literally all i said was "%%%%, wrong runes" then when i started losing lane i muted everyone because i was tilted.
Taquion (EUW)
: Well we only know your part and what about chat? what about team opinion? You can play bad sometimes like this match but they'll never ban you 14 days directly and only for that. I need more information to say something about your ban. That's it. And about all your death... man if u are lvl 7 don't try to kill alone a lvl 11 with full HP...
Well believe it, i only got banned for this one game, and i didn't say anything toxic / flame anyone in chat.
Lauralf (EUW)
: I watched the little replay montage you did and I have to say it DOES look like you're simply having a bad game. The only thing speaking against you from what I can see is the death count, that is extremely high for a 23 minute game. I am unsure as to why Riot considers this a clear case of "inting", could it be that you said something in chat indicating that you wern't playing to win?
I'll let you know that all i've said in the chat from the beginning of the game was : "%%%%, wrong runes" , That's it, and if a rioter sees this post, i'm sure he can prove that i did flame no body.
Goperod (EUW)
: but only you who died more then 5 times.
Okay based on this very sentence you just said i can clearly tell you didn't even read the post
: Cute but pointless "comeback"
i have no idea why i'm wasting my time talking to you.
: hey man! Just saw the replay. You are definitely NOT intentionally feeding. You just played pathetic. I know because I do it too sometimes, all of us have bad games. (ESPECIALLY WITH YASUO) I see a lot of people saying you deserve a ban for playing shitty, but you don't really. I hope you get your account back, and please ignore anyone trying to bait you, some idiots are gonna say stuff like " you deserve a ban for playing bad", just ignore them.
It's extremely frustrating for me, i'm being taken guilty for something i never intended to do.
: i think this is a case of " iam tilted so ia mgonna feed but ill try to make it so that i dont get banned " gets banned WHAT I WAS BEING SO CLEVER , LETS GO TO THE FORUM AND TRY TO MAKE THIS BE UNDONE #Lol Good riddance hahahaha OH AND YOU ARE A YASOU PLAYER I LOVE THIS !!!
Given the way how you type, there's no way in hell you're above 14
: I just watched the video of your deaths. To be honest, if this were diamond-challenger(my elo) then this would definitely look like intentionally feeding or just "I don't care about the game anymore" attitude(but I will still play). Since you are silver and it does look like you are actually still playing and trying(even though you are still dying quite a lot, but that has happened to everyone that has accidently overfed the enemy to the point of no return). Other than your actual KDA your others stats looks fine to me. I have witnesses plenty of real intentionally feeders(that sells all their items and just goes straight into the enemy to feed). In your case it is much more difficult for us "spectators" to say anything(because we lack chat logs and the longer version of the game). We also don't know your punishment history. Personally, I think getting a straight 14 days ban for this one particular game is harsh(even if you DID really intentionally feed). Did you have any other punishment prior to this? If you did not then you definitely don't deserve a 14 day ban for one game(legit int or not). In short, we don't have enough information to tell if this is a worthy ban or not(KDA alone is not a good enough indicator). Riot will obviously not share any information so you need to tell us more. Did you get any warnings/chat restriction/bans in the past?(if yes for what reason?). If you truly are innocent and did not intentionally feed, then keep sending them tickets. They have messed up many times in the past and their support is not known for being very responsive or helpful.
i was never punished for inting ever, nor was i ever chat suspended, my account history is really clean, all i get banned for is leaverbuster sometimes.
: he did call you kanye. thats hilarious. oh god riots support is a straight 10/10 comedy about 10/10 times.
LuLippy (EUW)
: ....Seems harsh to ban a silver player up against a gold 1 smurf account in normal games? Especially In the current stompy game state and when mid and bot also lost and Yi is counter jungling and also giving up stupid kills.
i would've understood if it was a ranked game but it's a %%%%ing normal game ;l.
: Why downvoted when i said that this guy gave so many deaths without reason and refused to group with the others?From his video i was proved right.I can also pick Yasuo,feed enemy's top the way he did, play 24/7 top farming and even fight a Malphite while taking hits from his tower. Even if YOU didn't feed intentionally(which i never said) your TACTIC did.You died several times top solo yet you refused to change your tactic and continued playing the same way.No objectives,no cooperation,no strategy but pushing top again and again and again.Split pushing while refusing to cooperate and communicate is reportable.Of course you got more gold than your team as you were mainly farming during the whole game. Your whole team gave up?Bad plays?I consider Master Yi a bad player,because despite his mistakes he really tried to win.He had 2 multi-kills after all.The rest of your team grouped at least 2-3 times.What about you? You can always downvote mine or other players' posts but the video shows everything. P.s. No,you can't do what you want.Not without limits.
Let me repeat again, The only teamfight we had was near our inhibator which we lost in like 5 seconds and surrendered. You telling me that i refuse to cooperate when there's no one to cooperate with is ridiculous, also, if i choose to stay top and not go anywhere, that's my choice, as long as i'm not dying intentionally, that's my strategy, i can't be banned for having a strategy, i don't break any rules, i'm just farming because i needed gold, you convicing yourself that i should've cooperated with my midlander against the even more fed lux who one shot me earlier instead of farming to get gold when you wouldn't have done that yourself (unless you're ignorant) isn't going to help your situation.
Snowman Arc (EUNE)
: I don't have the time to go through your entire post and screenies, or watch the replays as the commenters below, but I will give you examples of what "Intentional Feeding" is. So, you probably think that Inting, and the reason you get reported for it, is when you run down mid and just die to the tower constantly, or when you sit in the middle of the lane dancing and letting the enemy kill you. It's not just that. There are so many other options. Let's say you got ganked and you are 0/3 in lane and there was absolutely nothing you could have done. That's alright. Even if there was like a flash you could use, and you didn't because you didn't react fast enough, that's also fine. Not everyone is a good player,otherwise everyone would be in challenger. But what is bad is when you are 0/3 and you still somehow try to engage and fight the enemy for whatever reason and die. And then, you come back and die again trying to fight them. That is Inting. You don't do that intentionally, like just go into the tower and die, you really want to kill the enemy and not die, but the thing is, you already know that you are behind and you probably won't kill the enemy. Therefore you are going into a fight that the most probable outcome is with you dying, and you still go for it. That's assisting the enemy team getting more gold, xp and lane freedom. YOU are INTENTIONALLY picking a fight you CANNOT win and YOU KNOW THAT and you die and feed your enemy. That's inting and people will report you for that and you might be penalized. Also, you can be penalized by doing whatever the hell you want on the map, when the team is repeatedly calling otherwise, and the thing you do actually ends up being bad for the team, especially if it's happened before in the same game. For example. you are splitpushing top lane and you are 1/10 and the enemy top laner (or whoever is gonna come to defend) is some carry champion with let's say a KDA of 10/2/8, has more CS than you etc. The guy, barring some massive misplay, is gonna kill you, which is bad for the team. So, when the team says "don't splitpush and come with us to teamfight" after you died like 3 times doing that exact thing, even if you take one enemy tower, you are still Inting. You feed the enemy and not communicate with the team, when they already called for something different that you kept doing. "Insanity is the state of mind when you keep doing the same exact thing under the same circumstances and expect a different outcome." Insanity is a reason to be penalized. When you do X thing the entire game, and it ALWAYS turns bad for you and for the team, then keeping on doing it is just quite the same as Inting. That's it. If what the commenters below say are true and what I described above is actually happening in your games, then the penalty you received is 100% fair. It's one thing to be bad at the game and not have the mechanics to hit skillshots, do the fancy outplays or have the reflexes to flash-dodge, but that's alright, after all, that's why there are divisions like Bronze, Silver etc. But, when you do something that is LOGICALLY STUPID, even if you do want the best out of it for your team, especially if your team is strongly against it and calling it in the chat, then that's a problem with your brain. So, if you are not mentally %%%%%%ed (real use of the meaning) or generally incapable of understanding basic concepts of the game and the teamplay, then you are either naive, or you do it intentionally.
Go watch the video, i was winning the lane first but then i died, then when lee returned i died again, then he died me, then i did something really stupid, then he just kept hiding and diving me.. So if anything, i only did one mistake.
: > [{quoted}](name=Funoros,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7scyRKsA,comment-id=000b0000,timestamp=2017-01-17T18:59:50.020+0000) > > Yes, exactly, i stood still to let him land his Q, then i processed to waste my flash trying to escape, but hey, THAT DOESN'T MATTER! I'M OBVIOUSLY FLASHING TO INTENTIONALLY FEED HIM. You apparently don't know to what lengths banned people will go to try and get unbanned, we will never know if you are lying or not, how much you can tell us that you aren't we just can't know because people will try lying to get their accounts back.
Listen, i got banned for intentionally feeding, and by looking at the video, anyone with a proper functioning brain can tell that i obviously didn't intentionally feed, end of the story. go look up for intentionally feeding on youtube or something and then compare it to my video.
Purejoyce (EUNE)
: >If i did infact intentionally feed, why would i go as far as to make a video to prove that i'm innocent Oh that's an easy one! Because you don't want to have your account banned for 2 weeks. :D
Listen, you believe what you wan't, i'm tired of repeating my points over and over again, just go read the rest of the comments if you want to see me say anything else
: i think this is a case of " iam tilted so ia mgonna feed but ill try to make it so that i dont get banned " gets banned WHAT I WAS BEING SO CLEVER , LETS GO TO THE FORUM AND TRY TO MAKE THIS BE UNDONE #Lol Good riddance hahahaha OH AND YOU ARE A YASOU PLAYER I LOVE THIS !!!
iam ia mgonna yasou I might be brain dead, but good god i'm happy that i'm not you.
Goperod (EUW)
: If i was playing in your game i would have reported you. In my eyes your are int.feeding and griefing.
How am i griefing? You talk like i'm the only one who lost the lane? I wasn't the reason why they lost this, we were getting destroyed.
: Honestly, after watching the video if you were in my team I would have reported you as well but not for intentionally feeding... It just looked like you lost hope and couldn't be bothered.
i was still trying to play, he's just way better than me.
Goperod (EUW)
: i would have reported you for int.feeding and griefing.
You're not explaining yourself.
: Nope lee sin wasn't good.He was just fed. Watch on the video your first death.You were afk for a moment and took that easy Q on your face seconds before Yi appears to help you.For 2-3 seconds when you could take a kill with Yi together you stayed afk and took Lee sin's Q on the face and died from his ignite. Now,if i was that Yi i would be totally frustrated.Later you tried to fight a Lee with double buff and died again.
You would be frustrated for what? Master pinged he was coming so i thought i'd bait Lee Sin into engaging into me, But then i died in the process, it didn't matter since he died too and i got an assist. I played against the lee, and i said he's good, but hey, you didn't play against the lee so you obviously know better than someone who played against him, amirite?
: Lot of points already named and the ways you died is just suspicious, as stated before, you just took a lee Q to the face at your first death when standing still for several seconds, When lee had double buffs you tried to fight him, A lot of your deaths is just you trying to constantly fight him or push without any vision. I'd say you gave up so easily and most likely deserved that ban. ''we all knew how the game would end'' You are being quote toxic on the boards as well. ''If i did infact intentionally feed, why would i go as far as to make a video to prove that i'm innocent, and 3 support tickets?'' Short answer, yes a lot of banned people would go to quite some lengths to just get their account back because they feel like they did nothing wrong even if they did and use a wide variety of excuses.
Yes, exactly, i stood still to let him land his Q, then i processed to waste my flash trying to escape, but hey, THAT DOESN'T MATTER! I'M OBVIOUSLY FLASHING TO INTENTIONALLY FEED HIM.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Have you seen the video? No, you haven't Or you did and is extremely oblivious and ignorant.
: Yah given what little i can see it really is an unfair situation. Did you try to contact the support again? The video you made might actually be quite helpful. It's enough to argue that you weren't intentionally feeding at least which was the charge here.
I've sent it to them but they're yet to see it.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
If i did infact intentionally feed, why would i go as far as to make a video to prove that i'm innocent, and 3 support tickets?
: I needed a long time before i understood the game enough to avoid getting setup all the time too x)
This whole thing i got myself into is really frustrating for me, i got punished for trying to learn yasuo in a normal game..
Hansiman (EUNE)
: If you're still active later, and nobody has taken the time to give a more detailed explanation, I can do so tonight. However, I've run out of time right now as I'm getting ready for work. I'll check back in on the thread once I'm back.
I don't care, i'm not here to argue with people, and all what you're doing is making me feel bad, i can't take you all, you know this ban is unjust, you yourself must've had a game worse than this and you probably didn't get banned for it, Intentional feeding means giving people kills on purpose, it means basically running down mid and killing yourself, which is no where near what i've done, Not just because the game got accidently picked up by the system that means you should analyze the %%%% out of it and come out with every possible reason why what happened happened, using your common sense, i shouldn't have been banned, atleast not from 1 %%%%ing game of doing something i'm unaware that was against the ToS, i've never been warned before, i've never intentionally fed in my life, i do flame sometimes but that's about it.
House x33 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Hansiman,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7scyRKsA,comment-id=00060000000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-17T14:03:24.440+0000) > > So after watching through the video I can't really say I quite disagree with the punishment. I'm actually more surprised that the system picked this one up. > > The problem from what I can see is that it honestly doesn't look like you're trying. You're engaging on a person that is way stronger than you, and you should obviously know what is going to happen. And when trying to escape from death, you often run towards the enemy turret instead of your own. That alone does feel like you're just trying to give him more kills. > > Not a single death happened together with your team, and even if you say there was no point to group up; there was even less of a point to stay top alone giving kills to the enemy. > > The only evidence we sadly won't be able to see is the chat itself. That's only something Riot can see. http://m.memegen.com/ltnlfz.jpg
Can you go away please? if you had any idea what you are saying you could've made that point yourself earlier, but you're just ignorant.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Not directly intentionally feeding, but more in the lines of intentionally playing in such a manner that makes it more likely that your enemy is going to be allowed to kill you. It just looks like you've given up, and that you're not even trying to avoid dying. That's still assisting the enemy team.
i was trying to play, doing the best i can do in the situation, Lee sin was really good, 6 of my deaths was probably because i couldn't see him, i did give up, so did all of my team, but i still tried to play, i wasn't intentionally giving kills, we all knew how the game would end, but i didn't try to end it quicker, therefore i shouldn't be punished , i'm not the only one who gave up, and all what i was doing was farming, how is that a manner which allows my enemy to kill me? What was i supposed to do in the given situation?
Hansiman (EUNE)
: So after watching through the video I can't really say I quite disagree with the punishment. I'm actually more surprised that the system picked this one up. The problem from what I can see is that it honestly doesn't look like you're trying. You're engaging on a person that is way stronger than you, and you should obviously know what is going to happen. And when trying to escape from death, you often run towards the enemy turret instead of your own. That alone does feel like you're just trying to give him more kills. Not a single death happened together with your team, and even if you say there was no point to group up; there was even less of a point to stay top alone giving kills to the enemy. The only evidence we sadly won't be able to see is the chat itself. That's only something Riot can see.
So from the video it looks like i was intentionally feeding to you?
: > [{quoted}](name=Funoros,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7scyRKsA,comment-id=000500000000000000010000,timestamp=2017-01-17T13:12:36.309+0000) > > This case is not about winning or losing, We were getting devestated, Mid was losing, Bot was losing, Jungler wasn't helping any lane, Do you think the cooperation of a 0/4 Yasuo with no items would've done something to the game? This is about me breaking the ToS or not, as this is a guranteed lose, and by staying top and farming to try and get gold is by no means breaking the Tos. No hell you are always right.0/4 Yasuo with no items?That makes it more obvious you intentionally fed. Do not try to offend me.You are the one who got banned and not me.
Lmao, are you mentally exhausted? Since i have to specific with you since you're just basically laughing at yourself at this point, What i meant with no items was Not 1 full item, behind in items, few items, in another words, Low in gold, low in farm. Do you get it? Here's a video of my every death : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoC0wTJsy4E&feature=youtu.be
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Guessing it takes time. Still hasn't arrived. =/
i resent it but if it also didn't arrive this time, here's the video it included : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoC0wTJsy4E&feature=youtu.be
House x33 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Funoros,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7scyRKsA,comment-id=000700000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-17T13:39:36.725+0000) > > i didn't try to fight him, 80% of the time he was hiding, all i wanted to do was farm, right know you know you are in the wrong and it's okay to admit it, you know cooperation could've just caused me to have worse stats, possibly less gold because of how much farm i was going to miss, and the turret was going to go down way faster than it did which was already fast enough. 0:45,1:17,1:29 Last comment, you simply don't get it.
That was when i still had a chance to when the fight, when i only had 3 or 4 deaths, But then after that all i did was try to farm.
House x33 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Funoros,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7scyRKsA,comment-id=0007000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-17T13:36:20.621+0000) > > "Oh look, i have 10 farm and 4 deaths, i should probably go try to kill the fed botlane instead of killing the only thing i can kill right now which is minions" > > This, right there, is your logic. You tried to fight the lee you fed multiple times. Just stop now. But hey, let's keep on feeding instad of maybe getting a kill mid/bot. I am just stupid, right ? :)
Yes, try to get a kill against the 8/1 lux with zhonya who one shot my ass earlier, that's a good idea.
: Guy he played against is most likely a smurf, i looked him up and the fellow gets massively fed in damm near every game he plays in platinum. More often than not it's something like 10+ kills, under 3 deaths and +6 assists. He is clearly stomping plati like it's a joke and then he got matched against OP who is low gold. Most likely he controlled the minions for easy first blood and then just snowballed out of control right away. A low gold doesn't stand a chance against someone like that.
finally someone who understands my situation.
House x33 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Funoros,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7scyRKsA,comment-id=0007000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-17T13:36:20.621+0000) > > "Oh look, i have 10 farm and 4 deaths, i should probably go try to kill the fed botlane instead of killing the only thing i can kill right now which is minions" > > This, right there, is your logic. You tried to fight the lee you fed multiple times. Just stop now. But hey, let's keep on feeding instad of maybe getting a kill mid/bot. I am just stupid, right ? :)
i didn't try to fight him, 80% of the time he was hiding, all i wanted to do was farm, right know you know you are in the wrong and it's okay to admit it, you know cooperation could've just caused me to have worse stats, possibly less gold because of how much farm i was going to miss, and the turret was going to go down way faster than it did which was already fast enough.
House x33 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Funoros,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7scyRKsA,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2017-01-17T13:33:39.735+0000) > > I'm not going to repeat what i said before. Call me stupid how often you want, i don't mind.
"Oh look, i have 10 farm and 4 deaths, i should probably go try to kill the fed botlane instead of killing the only thing i can kill right now which is minions" This, right there, is your logic.
House x33 (EUW)
: Might not all be intentional but, yet again, if it wasn't for feeding,then it was for refusing to play with your team.
I'm not going to repeat what i said before.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Greetings. Are you using the beta client? If so, could you download the replay file and send it to me? You can send it to emissary@hansiman.net
Sent, check your email.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: The goal of the system that handles intentionally feeding is to catch this behaviour after a single game. Sure, it isn't always able to do that, but that is the ultimate goal of it.
I've sent you the video you wanted.
House x33 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Funoros,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7scyRKsA,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-01-17T11:33:13.986+0000) > > But i wasn't it was just a terrible game. Even the yasuo that was running down mid yesterday, managed to die less than you. There is no way that I believe you were not inting unless, you provide video proof.
Here's the video with my deaths : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoC0wTJsy4E&feature=youtu.be
: Hello just a somewhat random passerby here. On what basis do you call the guy toxic when he got banned for supposedly inting a single game? You come of as awfully judgmental assuming that riot don't make mistakes? And yes i am aware than many who are toxic and get banned go to the forums and complain but this fellow presented some "evidence" that he wasn't taken seriously and banned only for reasons of feeding a single game. No where was anything said or written about toxicity and his match history checks out therefore you look like an ass due to your last statement! So please do explain yourself a little?
i made a video of this with every death of mine : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoC0wTJsy4E&feature=youtu.be
House x33 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Thefrostyviking,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7scyRKsA,comment-id=0002000100000000,timestamp=2017-01-17T12:34:12.504+0000) > > Consider that OP is low gold, he knows that he needs gold. And so he wants to farm. But then he gets the shit kicked out of him by a guy that is way above him and he dies. But giving up is not an option. So he goes back and tries to farm again. But due to huge difference in skill the first thing repeats and so he tries to be careful. But the offender ( lee sin ) is way too good to let him go now that he is fed and knows just how big difference there is. And that's from where the issue's start. OP can't farm and if he tries lee sin kills him instantly. And then when they reach 6 (lee first naturally) He get's ultimate. Which is essentially a free kill whenever it goes off CD because that thing is oppressive as hell once lee sin gets fed. > > R-Q-Q and OP dies. Rinse and repeat and there we have it. 0,14,1 yasou who tried to hang on but got crapped on and shat on until lee sin finally lost his hard on and ended the game.... I had plenty of similar experiences when i first started playing league back in S3. I had just reached 30 was playing {{champion:131}} for the 4th or 5th time and i met a plati smurf playing {{champion:91}} ( He outright said it and wrote the name of his main acc ) . > > Before 20 minutes i was going something like 0,12,0 and it hadn't gotten worse only because i was too scared to even go anywhere near the guy so poor n00b me stacked mana and farmed with Q from max range. By 30 minutes i was 0,18,1 having accidentally gotten someone to flash after me only to run into my team....i still died but hey it wasn't too strange. > > And so i´d like to highlight it again, a normal player doesn't stand any form of a chance against a smurf, they can towerdive and roam at their leisure and there is nothing the lower guy can do due to the smurf having abused his hidden identity to gain a massive lead. > > What seemed like an equal fight was anything but equal kinda like 2 people going to fight one another with swords. Both are given a sword armor and shield and you could call it fair. But one of the two was given his equipment made with iron and the other from a mixture between bronze and tin! You can say that both were armed and equipped but by no means was it a equal or even fair fight! And then the guy with iron equipment gets to upgrade to steel because he won! And the other guy gets to keep his stuff that was hopelessly broken and smashed in the original fight. > > This is kinda exactly what happened in that game in a sense. By the end of that spiral the iron guy is sitting with modern weaponry and tactical nukes > while tin guy is learning how to use a crossbow... K, i get it, lee dominated him. That's what you're trying to tell me with that wall of text. http://i.epvpimg.com/sbH6g.png
You sound extremely ignorant, Ignoring everything you can't think of a reply for, and you like to hear yourself talk so much.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: If you're taking the stance that you were refusing to group with the team, then you're not playing as a team member. This is a team game, and when you say things like this it sounds like you were actively fighting your own team rather than the enemy team. This can go under assisting the enemy team, since refusing to play with your allies will help your opponents win.
Yes, i also said "%%%%, wrong runes" at the beginning of the game , and in this extreme sentence i insulted the rune page, And the rune page should have the right to ban me for life.
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