: How is Yasuo's damage *early and late game* high? I cannot see the difference between any other fed champion would be. Like, if you're not complaining about his kit, but only his damage...well, if he goes toplane he has poor chances after level 6 (most toplaners wreck him with any combo + ultimate, {{champion:122}} {{champion:114}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:41}} {{champion:80}} {{champion:58}} ). If he's mid, you're 90% a strong mage that has strong CC ({{champion:63}} {{champion:69}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:61}} {{champion:134}} {{champion:8}} ) and you just farm him from the distance. I don't get the relevance of your post. You're just mad, probably recently lost a game to a fed Yasuo you fed yourself. edit: just check'd your op.gg profile anddddddd....i was right. You fed with Ahri in the midlane but you didn't notice you performed good vs a Yasuo as Fiora in one previous game. That is stupid. (How did you manage to feed Yasuo being Ahri?)
> [{quoted}](name=Trenitaliyah,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=gqyldHVP,comment-id=0000000200000001,timestamp=2017-04-22T11:02:24.210+0000) > > How is Yasuo's damage *early and late game* high? I cannot see the difference between any other fed champion would be. Like, if you're not complaining about his kit, but only his damage...well, if he goes toplane he has poor chances after level 6 (most toplaners wreck him with any combo + ultimate, {{champion:122}} {{champion:114}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:41}} {{champion:80}} {{champion:58}} ). If he's mid, you're 90% a strong mage that has strong CC ({{champion:63}} {{champion:69}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:61}} {{champion:134}} {{champion:8}} ) and you just farm him from the distance. I don't get the relevance of your post. > You're just mad, probably recently lost a game to a fed Yasuo you fed yourself. If a top laner vs a yasuo has 50% HP and yasuo all-ins him he can easily win the fight by deleting his HP because after all he is like a meele assassin.
ZeeDrakon (EUW)
: No, Your post is stupid because youre obviously tilted, you word yourself poorly and you give wrong reasoning for yasuo being too strong.
> [{quoted}](name=Alberto Rengifo,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=gqyldHVP,comment-id=0000000200000000,timestamp=2017-04-22T10:51:34.529+0000) > > No, Your post is stupid because youre obviously tilted, you word yourself poorly and you give wrong reasoning for yasuo being too strong. So basically, being auto-attacked to death by lvl 2 without being able to fight back is not strong huh? And please explain to me where is the "wrong-reasoning"?
: I share your opinion, but yasuo mains don't agree.
> [{quoted}](name=Snibedi Snab xDD,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=gqyldHVP,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-04-22T10:37:04.381+0000) > > I share your opinion, but yasuo mains don't agree. Yasuo is the most mained champion in LoL and it also pretty logical because yasuo can dominate the lane in almost every match up especially at mid where squishy assassins are playing there. He just hits lvl 2, dashes through the minions, reaches you and VOILA! If the laner doesnt get away from yasuo he is dead. DEAD.
ZeeDrakon (EUW)
: Thing is, OP's post is absolutely stupid because he appears to just be someone really salty who made a rant post. Howeve, yasuo has been sitting at top peformance ratings with a high playrate and an above average winrate for ages. He actually still is genuinely too strong.
> [{quoted}](name=Alberto Rengifo,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=gqyldHVP,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2017-04-22T09:41:10.375+0000) > > Thing is, OP's post is absolutely stupid because he appears to just be someone really salty who made a rant post. > > Howeve, yasuo has been sitting at top peformance ratings with a high playrate and an above average winrate for ages. He actually still is genuinely too strong. So my post is stupid because what I said is, in fact, true? The fact that yasuo's damage on early _and_ late game is too damn high is understandable by the LoL community and everyone sees this ridiculous shit that must be nerfed and end this madness.
: Ok I admit that he needs a nerf but hey! Riot never nerfs anyone who's op {{champion:86}} {{champion:122}} {{champion:11}} {{champion:105}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:55}} You just gotta learn how to deal with them
> [{quoted}](name=the ultamate,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=gqyldHVP,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2017-04-22T08:54:56.793+0000) > > Ok I admit that he needs a nerf but hey! Riot never nerfs anyone who's op > {{champion:86}} {{champion:122}} {{champion:11}} {{champion:105}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:55}} > You just gotta learn how to deal with them Why fizz, yi and garen are OP? Actually fizz is kinda nerfed because he can't destroy an off-tank with full combo anymore. And Garen is not what he was back in season 1-2 when he could 3 shot you in 3 seconds. And yi? If he is not fed at all he is useless in comparison with yasuo whose damage is way higher even without getting fed.
: Dude there's so many threads on OP Yasuo's -Ok, ok just shut him down early game and he's useless late game. -Try do dodge tordado thing -A brainless Yasuo will waste minions and mindlessly dash through them abuse this fact and when he finishes dashing through them he basically has no escape route and can't dodge -Time your attacks straight after a windwall since it's low CD -If you need help, ask for a gank -Get randuins omen or thornmail -Click on his character ingame to observe how much flow he has and make an attack to waste his sheild -Avoid him when his tornado thingy is up, walk away or farm under you turret, if he dives you can stun him Any champion is "OP" when fed
> [{quoted}](name=the ultamate,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=gqyldHVP,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-04-22T08:14:36.797+0000) > > Dude there's so many threads on OP Yasuo's > > -Ok, ok just shut him down early game and he's useless late game. > -Try do dodge tordado thing > -A brainless Yasuo will waste minions and mindlessly dash through them abuse this fact and when he finishes dashing through them he basically has no escape route and can't dodge > -Time your attacks straight after a windwall since it's low CD > -If you need help, ask for a gank > -Get randuins omen or thornmail > -Click on his character ingame to observe how much flow he has and make an attack to waste his sheild > -Avoid him when his tornado thingy is up, walk away or farm under you turret, if he dives you can stun him > > Any champion is "OP" when fed Well, I think you didn't read my last paragraph. I personally DON'T have any problem with yasuo and I know and practise all of the things u described here and beat him in lane every time. I wrote this thread because whenever a mid/top laner feeds a yasuo in my game and gives him 5/0 kills I have to endure it and when he gets fed af he is unstoppable. He needs a small nerf on his damage so badly.
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HAVENFELL (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=PROJECT RYZE,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=RFkryAEx,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-04-13T18:20:35.870+0000) > > they made it free, wtf we paid for skins but gotta pay again/more to continue play it if they agree your suggestion? also LoL is more like Dota not WoW /if i read correct/ and i think pure PvP strategy games like LoL wont do well if pay2play... > also we are the community, we have to change ourselves and enjoy this game much more :) check out master/challenger players -act like adults, know how to play, know how to do not play... That's the point fellow player. What if we could just achieve a higher level of joyness by making the community of LoL a better place for everyone? Because if LoL becomes P2P we would surely have a **complete** different community from what we have now. Think about all these young players today who will undoubtedly not be able to pay the monthly subscription. It is good for LoL to be P2P even if it is like 5 euros a month. With this way, we secure the community from kids that could make it worse.
> [{quoted}](name=HAVENFELL,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=RFkryAEx,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-04-13T18:28:24.077+0000) > > That's the point fellow player. What if we could just achieve a higher level of joyness y making the community of LoL a better place for everyone? Because if LoL becomes P2P we would surely have a **complete** different community from what we have now. Think about all these young players today who will undoubtedly not be able to pay the monthly subscription. It is good for LoL to be P2P even if it is like 5 euros a month. With this way, we secure the community from kids that could make it worse. What if we made EVERY tier in league mature and serious.
: they made it free, wtf we paid for skins but gotta pay again/more to continue play it if they agree your suggestion? also LoL is more like Dota not WoW /if i read correct/ and i think pure PvP strategy games like LoL wont do well if pay2play... also we are the community, we have to change ourselves and enjoy this game much more :) check out master/challenger players -act like adults, know how to play, know how to do not play...
> [{quoted}](name=PROJECT RYZE,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=RFkryAEx,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-04-13T18:20:35.870+0000) > > they made it free, wtf we paid for skins but gotta pay again/more to continue play it if they agree your suggestion? also LoL is more like Dota not WoW /if i read correct/ and i think pure PvP strategy games like LoL wont do well if pay2play... > also we are the community, we have to change ourselves and enjoy this game much more :) check out master/challenger players -act like adults, know how to play, know how to do not play... That's the point fellow player. What if we could just achieve a higher level of joyness by making the community of LoL a better place for everyone? Because if LoL becomes P2P we would surely have a **complete** different community from what we have now. Think about all these young players today who will undoubtedly not be able to pay the monthly subscription. It is good for LoL to be P2P even if it is like 5 euros a month. With this way, we secure the community from kids that could make it worse.
Shiwah (EUW)
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> [{quoted}](name=Shiwah,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=RFkryAEx,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-13T17:50:57.440+0000) > > Again, maturity has nothing to do with how we deal with emotions. > > Anger issues can affect both a 15 years old and a 60 years old. I recognise the fact that anger can affect all people but the level of affection is different especially when you are kid. So you are telling me that an eight year old kid has the same anger affection as a fifty year old man? It can happen if the latter lacks mature sense and behaves like a child who got insanely angry and started crying because his ice-cream fell off its cone. So, somehow, maturity has something to do with how we deal with emotions.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=Shiwah,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=RFkryAEx,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-13T17:01:29.607+0000) > > It still has nothing to do with age or maturity. Actually, if you want to argue age, I know English much better than my parents, who are twice as old as me. Well it must be admitted that LoL is a type of game that, in its nature, makes us rage regardless of our age because it involves winning or losing a 30-45 minute procedure (the game) in which as time passes we become more and more hardened. If we lose we feel, sometimes, enormously angry (as I mentioned in my conclusion) and if we win, spiritually satisfied. But a person aged 15 and a person aged 25 have a big difference in terms of behaviour. The latter one is more mature and as humpel said in the research he posted older players are more possible to send and receive positive feedback in interaction with other players.
: Having finished some college doesn't guarentee people to be good at english. There certainly is a correlation between educational degree and ability to express yourself in a foreign language, but that doesn't mean one should be able to speak english perfectly. I think there's a fair amount of people who attend(ed) university and don't have high english proficiency. Speaking of players that aren't able to express a single phrase, you are probably trying to confirm your view on that. There certainly are players who can't express a single phrase, but did you also count the people who were able to express themselves properly? You probably didn't, because they are nothing exceptional. This is caused by an effect called [confirmation bias](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias).
> [{quoted}](name=sander599,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=RFkryAEx,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-13T16:20:30.626+0000) > > Having finished some college doesn't guarentee people to be good at english. There certainly is a correlation between educational degree and ability to express yourself in a foreign language, but that doesn't mean one should be able to speak english perfectly. I think there's a fair amount of people who attend(ed) university and don't have high english proficiency. > > Speaking of players that aren't able to express a single phrase, you are probably trying to confirm your view on that. There certainly are players who can't express a single phrase, but did you also count the people who were able to express themselves properly? You probably didn't, because they are nothing exceptional. This is caused by an effect called [confirmation bias](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias). Well, look I didn't mean **every** player can't articulate a single phrase I just, based on **my** experience, have found that many of them can't communicate properly and they constantly make grammar mistakes that make them pretty impossible to make a conversation. I find a person who can speak near-perfectly english in about one out of 15 games. They are rare, at least in my case.
: The study Humpel shared only says something about a correlation between toxicity and age. That study doens't say anything about average age. I don't know a source where you can find the average age, but I suppose an infographic made by Riot saying that 85% of all players is aged between 16 and 30 is just as satifsfying. http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/d/dc/Lol_infographic.png/revision/latest?cb=20121012154552
> [{quoted}](name=sander599,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=RFkryAEx,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-13T15:51:44.275+0000) > > The study Humpel shared only says something about a correlation between toxicity and age. That study doens't say anything about average age. > > I don't know a source where you can find the average age, but I suppose an infographic made by Riot saying that 85% of all players is aged between 16 and 30 is just as satifsfying. > http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/d/dc/Lol_infographic.png/revision/latest?cb=20121012154552 This sounds ridiculous. Why would they be between the age of 16 and 30 when many of them can't even speak proper english? And by that, I mean that they can't write a single sentence. Ur graphic shows that 60% of the players are enrolled in or have completed some college while they can't articulate a single phrase. _Note: I am talking about the European servers based on my experience._
: > This is because the playerbase of LoL consists of kids aged 12-16 years old That's incorrect. 85% of the community are adults and the average age is above 20. You can't just make up statistics and base your arguments on it. You could at least have googled it, you would have found it. Anyway, your basic assumption is incorrect and, follwing logically, so is your conclusion. That's not even all of it. Even if the League community would be very young, your method would only help if young players would actually be the problem. This was researched and, surprise surprise, they are not. There is no meaningful correlation between age and toxicity and, maybe even more interesting, only a very weak correlation between age and skill. And this weak correlation actualy favours younger players, they are slightly better on average. And last but not least: Riot is certainly not going to change a business model that is not only the very essence of Riots "corporate spirit", but also happens to be extremely successful financially. If you are interested in the study about toxicity and age, here you go: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0747563215301655 PS: If you want to understand the article, read it entirely. The title is pretty misleading.
> [{quoted}](name=Humpelstilzche,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=RFkryAEx,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-04-13T14:43:33.289+0000) > > That's incorrect. 85% of the community are adults and the average age is above 20. > You can't just make up statistics and base your arguments on it. You could at least have googled it, you would have found it. Anyway, your basic assumption is incorrect and, follwing logically, so is your conclusion. > That's not even all of it. > Even if the League community would be very young, your method would only help if young players would actually be the problem. This was researched and, surprise surprise, they are not. There is no meaningful correlation between age and toxicity and, maybe even more interesting, only a very weak correlation between age and skill. And this weak correlation actualy favours younger players, they are slightly better on average. > > And last but not least: Riot is certainly not going to change a business model that is not only the very essence of Riots "corporate spirit", but also happens to be extremely successful financially. > > If you are interested in the study about toxicity and age, here you go: > http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0747563215301655 > > PS: If you want to understand the article, read it entirely. The title is pretty misleading. Actually, based on the 2.4 Age figure it is shown that the estimated age of the birth rates are between 1999 and 2000. Can you please indicate where it is said that the average age is above 20 years old?
Shiwah (EUW)
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> [{quoted}](name=Shiwah,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=RFkryAEx,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2017-04-13T15:11:01.891+0000) > > You use a slogan that a racist, right-winger etc president used in his election. > > Lineage 2 was actually rife with bots even in its p2p days, look at DiegoVargas being one of the biggest supporters of a certain scripting program AND NCoin buyer, never permanently banned since before Goddess of Destruction hit ^^ So what if it said by a goddamn politician? I asked you, It means that we should not use it? And hey, I never said that L2 never had bots, it was just different compared to how it is today.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=Shiwah,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=RFkryAEx,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-04-13T14:56:35.851+0000) > > P2P and B2P never discouraged people from being asses or cheating. I've personally witnessed hordes of bots in FFXIV, griefing and chat abuse in GW2 (rare, but still existing and the first banwave Arenanet did after the launch of the game was for extreme toxicity -- Holocaust jokes and racism all around...), and cheaters in Overwatch exist. > > In addition, you could start yourself by not supporting a racist, right-wing, bigoted snd sexist slogan. Just because a "slogan" has become a taboo means that we should not use it? I do not support any of these things you described and also I don't support any politically correct behaviour that says to me not to use something because it's a "taboo". And why shouldn't a player be discouraged when the threat of being banned for something you pay is pretty clear and possible. Never played FFXIV but WoW and the old P2P Lineage 2 were nothing like this.
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