: Why do you perma ban people for words then? This logic makes no sense. *You offer perma bans for words but no perma mutes*. Why? This is not understendable. I litterally want to perma mute me (since you have no option for this in the game) to avoid perma ban. But you wont perma mute me BUT WILL perma ban me the next time i say something. This is unbeliveable.
> You offer perma bans for words but no perma mutes. Riot did actually test out permanent chat restrictions, but found that they didn't do anything. Those that were issued this penalty simply found other ways to destroy the game when they got angry, such as intentionally feeding. The only thing that happened was that these players were allowed to ruin even more games before getting their deserved permaban. --- > Why do you perma ban people for words then? Because the majority of community actually does not wish to play with people that are abusive in the chat. Riot listens to the community, and issues punishments based on our desires.
LovePyjamas (EUNE)
: Please answer both questions.
You're making a claim that Riot has buffed Yasuo's R with 250% crit. However, I can't see that happening in patch 8.15, 8.16 or on the current PBE cycle. I can't answer if I don't know what you're referring too.
: Never tough of dragging chat out of screen. pretty smart. I have done this for sure now. less chances to type. tyvm for the idea. BUT ADMINS I BEG YOU PERMA MUTE ME, i dont want to be able to chat so that i cant get banned. TYVM just to be sure. PLS mute me. i will write a ticket if no admins read this. For people saying that typign is necesaary. its not actually. pings do it all. Typing is just for argue. EVERYBODY ARGUES IN THIS GAME. Typing is literally used 80% of the time for that. Everygame i see people beinig toxic. everygame i see people tilt, everygame, you know what everygame means? and its hard to keep your cool when a person on your team starts to int and troll and you are gaining 20lp and losing 19 lp per game? well i do not talk now, but pls mute me just to be sure. I really dont want to lose this acc because i have so much champs on. And the best way to prevent ever saying something back is to mute me :) solution is izy Idk why there is not in the options menu that can be dissabled only outside the rift.
> PLS mute me. i will write a ticket if no admins read this. Riot doesn't offer the ability to request permanent chat restriction.
LovePyjamas (EUNE)
: Riot?
There's no mention of Yasuo changes in the current patch notes. What are you referring too?
marris120 (EUW)
: garen
[Here's a video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDE__AAlBp8) about someone who took Garen to masters. Perhaps that may be of interest to you.
Metharius (EUW)
: why rework when you can release a new one ? make them both are happy. you can keep the game fresh and exiting in countless other way than reworking champs...
Because why can't they do both? New champions are still being released. Personally, I'd love to see less new champions, and more reworks. The game has enough champions right now as it is.
mate08812 (EUNE)
: low lvl games
> Every single low lvl game i played was full of smurfs and its %%%%ing stupid af It's full of smurfs, because you smurf. Matchmaking actually does try as best as possible to filter smurfs away from actual new players.
: Yeah. Opinions. I personally love the old Gangplank and haven't touched this new one ever. You can play what you love but i can't.
Reworks are part of the game, and keeps things fresh. I've lost an old main to a rework, but I just find a new one anyway.
: > [{quoted}](name=Hansiman,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=L7MuKfeM,comment-id=00030001000000010000,timestamp=2018-08-14T15:48:13.919+0000) > > We've had several re-reviews on moderation actions done after people have asked for a second opinion from moderators here on boards. In some cases, we've admitted that the penalty was wrong in that case, and reverted the action. Thats not how it works. Unfairly banning a person should result in an automatic demotion from mod status. Otherwise triggerhappy mods can just say "ah ye my bad it wont happen again" with zero consequences. If you moderate the forums accept responsibility dont evade it. Then again you people are appojnted by riot, a company that cant say "we were wrong" in 8 years so i somewhat understand why it is like it is.
> Unfairly banning a person should result in an automatic demotion from mod status. No, because it's perfectly human to make a mistake. Unfairly banning a person with intent, however, would result in a action taken against the moderator. But everyone can make a mistake. Nobody is perfect. We do actually audit bans at times. --- > If you moderate the forums accept responsibility dont evade it. Me being open and approachable, admitting that mistakes can happen, is the very opposite of evading responsibility.
: When Gangplank was actually fun to play and a fun champion
I personally love the current version of Gangplank.
BabyOliver (EUNE)
: Thanks for the answer, that explains it all. But isnt it pretty unfair to the players that didnt experience any problems? There must be a better solution that only affect the players that got negatively impacted,?
It's not possible to filter out who's experiencing the problem, and who isn't, in cases like this. Loss prevention impacts everyone currently ingame.
MrGerund (EUW)
: i can count riot, and this isn't right. (cant make ranked lobby)
: And how does that work if im 4 days banned for saying "I dont need another game i got Kat in skyrim :3", except via a support ticket?
You use multiple accounts on these boards. You could just open a thread with a different one and ask for another review. Or, send in a ticket to support, and they'll review it for you. You've got options, so I don't see the problem.
Master Scar (EUNE)
: Pizza or Spaghetti
I had spaghetti for dinner today. Sunday will be pizza.
BabyOliver (EUNE)
: But why did "loss prevented" happen?
Hard to say right now, but loss prevention is activated when there are widespread issues negatively impacting a large group of players over many games. Even if you did not personally experience any problems, enough players did for Riot to activate loss prevention. Once that happens, the losing side will not take any penalty for losing a game, and the ones marked as winners will get a 50% reduction to their normal gain.
: Excuse me fine sir. Only a support ticket helps. I know it may offend you the seniors, as its working behind your backs, but risking yourself of doing it on the forum is a bad idea. The guilty party always mages the flip the story to make the user the guilty one, while the support team cares little to not at all about the green names here so they can make sure justice is done with enough proof. :p
We've had several re-reviews on moderation actions done after people have asked for a second opinion from moderators here on boards. In some cases, we've admitted that the penalty was wrong in that case, and reverted the action. All moderation on boards is done by humans, so it's only natural that mistakes may happen. However, we're perfectly capable of admitting that, and correcting mistakes when they happen. Ofcourse, you're also free to send in a ticket if you so desire. That's totally up to you.
: > [{quoted}](name=Nightangael,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=L7MuKfeM,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-08-14T12:40:21.282+0000) > > For one, the greens are (over)zealous in their moderation of the boards, so you can rest assured nobody's precious will be hurt. Agreed, combine it with their power abuse and you basically get soviet russia on the forums.
If you have any problems with certain moderation actions, feel free to either send in a ticket to support, or open a thread here on boards. We're more than happy to discuss moderation guidelines.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Only the ones who also act as moderators. Being a volunteer doesn't automatically grant you that ability.
We actually represent the community towards Riot, more than we represent Riot towards the community. Riot can represent themselves. That's not our job.
Strigina (EUNE)
: The only power emissaries have is to suspend you from boards.
Only the ones who also act as moderators. Being a volunteer doesn't automatically grant you that ability.
Shädäm (EUNE)
: I only have once advice. Dont %%%%ing play this game. Dont listen to anyone who says anyone who says anything positive. There is nothing positive about this game. Even winning isnt fun, because its either a hard earned 1v9 carry that your team doesnt deserve, or its just you sucking %%%% lane while an overfed lane ends the game. Community, balance, feedback system. Everything sucks. Even the design is bad since they reworked this all. The good old enjoyable League you heard about is not this game
And despite how terrible everything about this game is: You still play it.
AAAlex 123 (EUNE)
: Sadly this voting doesn't work like real life. I thought that 60% would always be picked over 40% because this is the majority. But nope. Rito games doesn't care much about what the majority of players want. eh what can you do
It's like a lottery, not a democratic vote. Every player places their choice in a bowl, and a random selection is made based on that. The more people that select the same champion, the higher the chance of the champion be selected is, but it's not guaranteed. If 4 people select the same champion, and one person selects something else, then there's still a 20% chance that it will be the champion that the one person selected.
: Summoner name change
Greetings. Send in a ticket to support, and explain to them the situation. They should be able to help you out. Contact them [here](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new).
: After losing promos lp situation
If you were 93LP, there's only 7LP up to 100. You don't go above that.
: interesting. When i requested my account data i was told it's not possible.
That must be a long time ago, because it is possible. You can submit a data request ticket [here](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=38164).
CJXander (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Hansiman,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=9YkApEkt,comment-id=0000000300000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-13T10:28:01.771+0000) > > A flaw is precisely what it is: Your proposed system would require a vast amount of manpower, far larger than what is possible to commit. That's a flaw in design. But how do you know that? Do you have access to statistics ? Why are you so certain people won't participate or present interest ? Your attitude is rather like "there's nothing we can do so we shouldn't even try", disgusting. Also, a vast ammount of manpower are also a thing in CS:GO, for the overwatch system, just to let you know.
You should be able to discuss with people without resorting to insults. Just because I don't agree with you, there's no need for you to start calling my attitude "disgusting". Be civil if you wish to post on these boards.
CJXander (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Hansiman,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=9YkApEkt,comment-id=00000003000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-13T08:51:04.533+0000) > > When that's the tactic you use against people that are trying to debate with you, are you really expecting people to take you seriously? > > You propose a system, others point out flaws. Instead of looking at those flaws as possibilities to improve your system, you resort to mocking those that disagree with you. > > That's not an attitude you'll get far with. No, you didn't pointed any flaw, you just said "no it's not going to work because the ammount of reports are too much and not enough people", that's not an explanation, not constructive feedback, not even close to something that i call "trying to help", it was just biased bashing.
A flaw is precisely what it is: Your proposed system would require a vast amount of manpower, far larger than what is possible to commit. That's a flaw in design.
QopyRage (EUW)
: But im really need this chests, for new champions.
Leveling up is your main source of champions. You're not blocked from getting level rewards.
CJXander (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Gabresol,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=9YkApEkt,comment-id=000000030000,timestamp=2018-08-13T08:42:52.721+0000) > > Maybe. But if the community wasn't made up of idiots who report evey 1/5 in their games as "intentional feeding" the system could actually work "inting" is a buzzword that summarizes "any behaviour that doesn't comply with one's own vision of the world", just like "trolling". I've proposed multiple times to hybridize the reporting system, but the people are way too narrow minded to even conprehend the concept. (hurr durr, too many reports, that's why the tribunal was disolved, hurr durr).
> but the people are way too narrow minded to even conprehend the concept. (hurr durr, too many reports, that's why the tribunal was disolved, hurr durr). When that's the tactic you use against people that are trying to debate with you, are you really expecting people to take you seriously? You propose a system, others point out flaws. Instead of looking at those flaws as possibilities to improve your system, you resort to mocking those that disagree with you. That's not an attitude you'll get far with.
QopyRage (EUW)
: also, its my first acc, and I am just lvl 16 now, mb I should create new acc?
Personally I'd say stick with this one. A new account isn't really going to help you. If you treat accounts as objects that can be easily discarded and replaced, you won't really learn, nor improve.
QopyRage (EUW)
: Ok, but im new player and sometimes im playin 1-5 or 1-6 lmao, and I think some of my teammates can report me for inting (but im not inting im really play bad now) so system will think that I am a bad player and punish me again for reports?
If you're not breaking the rules, reports won't impact you. Only valid reports count.
CJXander (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Hansiman,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=TBX1ABcI,comment-id=000700000000,timestamp=2018-08-13T07:42:15.535+0000) > > You are grossly underestimating just how many volunteers would be required to go through this. We're talking tens of thousands of people spending hours every day handling reports. Streamlining such a large community is not possible. Well, if it comes to rewards (hextech chests, fragments, keys or even BE), i'm pretty sure a large portion would volunteer, maybe not enough to solve all the cases in one day, or even 50%. But my question is, why are you so biased? The tribunal couldn't handle the ammount of reports because it was completely manual, a hybrid would work better ( Automatic system handles verbal abuse and AFK and the volunteers handle Trolling, intentional feeding and Griefing). If you have a better proposal or if you can elaborate WHY this would not work, aside from "big ammounts of reports", i'm all ears.
> Well, if it comes to rewards (hextech chests, fragments, keys or even BE), i'm pretty sure a large portion would volunteer, maybe not enough to solve all the cases in one day, or even 50%. And you'd end up with people only participating for rewards, and not actually in order to handle cases correctly. The old Tribunal system had for a short while a small IP reward for those who participated, but that was removed due to the problems it caused. --- > The tribunal couldn't handle the ammount of reports because it was completely manual The old systems main problem was that it was incredibly slow. From a case being created, until solved, weeks could pass. This wasn't good on player reformation. Automated systems handle cases within minutes. Manual labour can't compete. --- > If you have a better proposal or if you can elaborate WHY this would not work, aside from "big ammounts of reports", i'm all ears. But you're simply ignoring the biggest problem with your proposal: The amount of time required to handle this is so large, that you need tens of thousands of people handling it. It's not just something you can ignore because you don't like the argument, it's very very important part of the argument. You simply can't gather up such a large amount of people, and have them always follow the same standards. It's a recipe for disaster.
QopyRage (EUW)
: I read it on google, but I asked how realy long it takes, RIOT dosent say anything about it. If I will be a good boy, dont say bad words, dont say any words in chat, tryharding in games, how long it takes? Week?Month? 10 games?
There's no given time limit, so Riot can't specify it. Behave well, and it can be unlocked in a matter of weeks. Don't behave, and you may be stuck for months with the honor locked.
CJXander (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=BlueStr,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=TBX1ABcI,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-08-12T21:19:18.550+0000) > > Considering the volume of games played, a manual check by players would be so slow and ineffective it beats the purpose. I understand that you people want to make sure others get punished, but that is between riot and the accused. Its none of your business whether or not someone got punished and how. > > If you want to have the anti troll and anti int systems effective how about addressing the real issue; people overfeeding the system with false reports? The automatic system doesn't do anything about those 3 issues anyway, why not let volunteers take care of it? And people overfeeding with false reports? Not to worry , if someone is doing that, their report value decreases over time already lol. It's like with the kid that yelled "The wolf is coming" too many times. But here's the thing, many fear the judgement of a human, and that's why a lot of people are fine just with the automatic system, it makes them feel safe in case they snap one day and do something stupid. Well, don't really know, keep the confort of trolling someday yourself, but also keep the frustration when someone else is doing it, knowing the chances for him to get punished are really low, considering the fact the automatic system cannot judge gameplay behaviour, as stated before.
> why not let volunteers take care of it? You are grossly underestimating just how many volunteers would be required to go through this. We're talking tens of thousands of people spending hours every day handling reports. Streamlining such a large community is not possible.
QopyRage (EUW)
: My honor was blocked
When your honor is locked, you won't be able to gain chests/keys, or progress in honor rankings. In order to unlock your honor, it's just a matter of behaving well. How long it takes is up to you, since it's all a matter of personal behaviour.
: If I go borderless the lower tab (Idk what is it called in english, where folders and all these icon are placed) it is visible.
Hmm, that sounds more like a settings in Windows though that's forcing the taskbar to remain visible. I'd have to look into it a bit.
: i already alt tab fast out of the game i want to get in faster
That's what borderless is for. It's how Windows handle 3d applications when you alt-tab out of it. You'll still see it as fullscreen, without any difference, when ingame. It's mainly just Windows handling it differently.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: > Game 2 was not harassing, insulting nor blaming my allies. Then I'm not sure if we're reading the same logs: > SeeYourHalo: MASTER IY SeeYourHalo: PAY ATTENTION SeeYourHalo: you just lost us a kill SeeYourHalo: %%%%head SeeYourHalo: dude SeeYourHalo: stfu SeeYourHalo: and playh SeeYourHalo: you need to pay attention SeeYourHalo: to your goddamn map SeeYourHalo: I've seen 0 ss's from you SeeYourHalo: this mf SeeYourHalo: is trash SeeYourHalo: my god SeeYourHalo: DONT SeeYourHalo: TAKE SeeYourHalo: MY SeeYourHalo: FARM SeeYourHalo: too many feeders SeeYourHalo: you fed quinn hard SeeYourHalo: you lost us the game SeeYourHalo: it did SeeYourHalo: WHY SeeYourHalo: IN THE WORLD SeeYourHalo: ARE YOU GOING BACK IN THE FOUNTAIN SeeYourHalo: report toplane Because from what I see, you spend a lot of time being disruptive towards your team.
You're still expected to be able to control your anger. Everyone experiences the same emotions you do, but that doesn't mean we take it out on others.
: Then they can add a date to the skin art to show what year the orb is from then. I don't see what the issue is other than your pride.
Victorious Skins also represent a champion that were in some way important in that specific season. Enabling you to select which skin you want would remove that entire concept.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: > Game 2 was not harassing, insulting nor blaming my allies. Then I'm not sure if we're reading the same logs: > SeeYourHalo: MASTER IY SeeYourHalo: PAY ATTENTION SeeYourHalo: you just lost us a kill SeeYourHalo: %%%%head SeeYourHalo: dude SeeYourHalo: stfu SeeYourHalo: and playh SeeYourHalo: you need to pay attention SeeYourHalo: to your goddamn map SeeYourHalo: I've seen 0 ss's from you SeeYourHalo: this mf SeeYourHalo: is trash SeeYourHalo: my god SeeYourHalo: DONT SeeYourHalo: TAKE SeeYourHalo: MY SeeYourHalo: FARM SeeYourHalo: too many feeders SeeYourHalo: you fed quinn hard SeeYourHalo: you lost us the game SeeYourHalo: it did SeeYourHalo: WHY SeeYourHalo: IN THE WORLD SeeYourHalo: ARE YOU GOING BACK IN THE FOUNTAIN SeeYourHalo: report toplane Because from what I see, you spend a lot of time being disruptive towards your team.
Calling someone "trash" is still an insult. You're saying it in order to berate their ingame abilities, which is insulting. Instead, focus on the game, and play. You'd win more if you spent your energy defeating your opponents, rather than defeating your allies. --- > And this was a long game Length of game matters not. You're supposed to behave, regardless of time spent.
: Game 2 was not harassing, insulting nor blaming my allies. Game 3 was a normal game no insults and no harassment, I only blamed my adc who stood still in a team fight when I was in my promo's and lost us the game (we lost the game after that fight). If I can't even tell them that they don't belong in ranked than this is some dictator shit here.
> Game 2 was not harassing, insulting nor blaming my allies. Then I'm not sure if we're reading the same logs: > SeeYourHalo: MASTER IY SeeYourHalo: PAY ATTENTION SeeYourHalo: you just lost us a kill SeeYourHalo: %%%%head SeeYourHalo: dude SeeYourHalo: stfu SeeYourHalo: and playh SeeYourHalo: you need to pay attention SeeYourHalo: to your goddamn map SeeYourHalo: I've seen 0 ss's from you SeeYourHalo: this mf SeeYourHalo: is trash SeeYourHalo: my god SeeYourHalo: DONT SeeYourHalo: TAKE SeeYourHalo: MY SeeYourHalo: FARM SeeYourHalo: too many feeders SeeYourHalo: you fed quinn hard SeeYourHalo: you lost us the game SeeYourHalo: it did SeeYourHalo: WHY SeeYourHalo: IN THE WORLD SeeYourHalo: ARE YOU GOING BACK IN THE FOUNTAIN SeeYourHalo: report toplane Because from what I see, you spend a lot of time being disruptive towards your team.
: If I report someone for their behaviour, I get a notifaction if they have been banned.
Very rarely. That notification is intentionally set to only pop up under very specific conditions. Most people that you report, that end up punished, will not trigger that notification.
: and fyi, I just want to know what was toxic about game 2. And game 3 until the last few sentences.
In both game 2 and 3 you're insulting, harassing, and blaming allies. It's unwanted behaviour here.
: And maybe if they just gave me a chat restriction and told me that I was too toxic instead of giving me a 2 week ban I would've realised it sooner than I had.
If a 14 day ban doesn't tell you that your behaviour isn't acceptable, a milder chat restriction won't either.
: The 14 day ban was a warning for homophobic behaviour, If rito would've looked at the chatlogs not just from me but from every person in that game, they would've banned every single one of them. Because they all were being sexist, racist and homophobic. Yet only I got the ban.
You don't know of potential action taken towards other accounts, since that's a privacy matter. A ban is between the offending player, and Riot. As long as you actually reported their behaviour, it will be looked into. Your case, however, is about you, and you alone. It doesn't matter how others behave, because you're judged based on your actions.
: How can I call someone ugly and a c*nt but I can't call them f*ggot without getting a ban. That's just a flaw in the system, they shouldn't ban people just for homophobic behaviour but for all kind of behaviours. I would've stopped ages ago If I got a warning about my behaviour earlier.
> How can I call someone ugly and a cnt but I can't call them fggot without getting a ban. Neither is acceptable behaviour, and it will all get you punished in the end. There's just a much stricter policy in place for hate speech such as homophobia and racism. --- > I would've stopped ages ago If I got a warning about my behaviour earlier. But you were issued a warning, and yet you didn't stop. The 14 day ban was a warning that your behaviour isn't acceptable. You didn't heed that warning, but kept up with your attitude. I don't see why an extra warning would change that.
: First of all, that's has never been told to me, nor have other people I've faced who said these words have received bans. And second of all, I still believe my toxicity in 1 game is enough for a perma ban.
You shouldn't be needed to be told to behave civil. Understanding the rules is your responsibility. Ignorance isn't an excuse.
: My 2 week ban was already a bs in my eyes, since I got banned for saying F*ggot. And then I get a perma ban for not even being that toxic at all and supposedly "inting"
Homophobic slurs have always been escalated to direct 14 day bans with final warnings. That too, is a correct penalty. --- > And then I get a perma ban for not even being that toxic at all and supposedly "inting" Your ban is not for "inting". It's for the behaviour you displayed in the chat. If you were banned for inting, you wouldn't be provided with a chat log, but rather an explanation and a link to the game you were caught intentionally feeding in.
: Yes I'm toxic, but I don't think this deserves a perma ban. Only game 1 is after my 2 week ban I think.
Your 2 week ban was a **final** warning. Any further violations from your part would result in a permaban, which happened here. You're expected to behave, something you did not do. A permaban is perfectly legitimate in these cases.
: Unable to queue up for solo q
What happens if you relog?
: He just wrote that he has been honored in every game... {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
Honors from premades are worth less than honors from strangers. That way, you can't just group up with a friend and grind honor levels.
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