archerno1 (EUNE)
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: i agree with you on a "human" level but i'm afraid the ToU agreement is there exactly for this reason. if you think about it, people would easly abuse any kind of unlimited refund on skins, even if it was as simple as "get X% of the skin value as orange essence" because they could just do it with rerolled skins that are worth NOTHING to Riot and get enough OE to get a legendary for free.
Yeah, it certainly couldn't be effortless. Some human entity would have to be involved to take a peek whether is the request appropriate or not.
sirDarts (EUW)
: I don't know a single game with microtransactions that just refunds you when you "no longer like the content". Especially after you were able to use it for years. That's just not reasonable. Then you could just get everything refunded when you "no longer like the game".
what would in-game currency refund solve in case you don't like the game anymore? As for the games I may name you a few Guild Wars 2, World of Warcraft, Lineage 2, Battlerite, Dota..
Hansiman (EUNE)
: > I agreed to the terms, perhaps. At some point, maybe years ago? Or any time you log in after a new patch is out, since you have to confirm that you still agree. --- > Also currently there are no limits what can be written within digital ToA so they are hardly justified or legally enforceable at this point in time. Yes, they are. --- > Was it even me who accepted the terms? Who knows If that's the case, you'll risk getting permabanned since you don't actually own the account you're using.
Well, then I agreed I guess? No, they are not. Sorry to break your disillusion. Read something about it. Am I? Who's to prove me if I did indeed click it? Perhaps it was cat walking atop of my keyboard, that is the exact reasoning why it is not legally enforceable..
sirDarts (EUW)
: That's your subjective problem. Riot doesn't offer any guarantee that they won't change any content. Actually, on the contrary, they clearly state that they can change any content of the game as they see fit without any right for refund. This is just how it works, in every single online game that offers microtransactions, once unlocked, you have no right for a refund of any kind. Riot actually went out of their way to offer at least some refund options with refund tokens, most games don't do that. Feel free to never purchase anything with RL money in LoL again, that's your choice, and your right. But there is no reason for you to get a refund.
I agree with your first point, there is no guarantee of refund, that is why I asked. No, it's totally not how it works. Every single game that offered me microtransactions so far did refund me stuff when it seemed reasonable. I will feel free to never purchase anything in League with real money again, exactly correct. On the other hand common sense says I might have right to refund and it is clearly company dependent.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: It's as valid as your argument. You've agreed to the terms that you do not own virtual items you purchase, and that Riot has the rights to change them at any point. You've even agreed to this multiple times. So coming now claiming you don't agree with this makes me wonder why you agreed in the first place.
Content changed, I did not purchase what I currently have available. His argument about me not loosing anything is hardly true. Can I build any kind of defense on that? No,.. I agreed to the terms, perhaps. At some point, maybe years ago? Was it during purchase or account creation? Also currently there are no limits what can be written within digital ToA so they are hardly justified or legally enforceable at this point in time. Was it even me who accepted the terms? Who knows,.. I am not claiming that I don't agree, I was asking simple question regarding certain services. What I am claiming is that content is simply not there and I lost something I considered to have purchased which is fact. Do I find them unjust? Maybe, that is different kind of question.
sirDarts (EUW)
: You have lost nothing. You still have access to all those skins. The fact that you don't like the champion anymore is not reason enough for a refund.
How about the fact I don't like the skins? Would I purchase them in case I considered them ugly? Your argument is not really valid sir. Not the mention the content was simply removed from the game and that is a fact.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: You should keep that mindset regarding any game, because you have absolutely no ownership of virtual items. It's still the property of the company that makes the game. This isn't unique to Riot. Don't think of it as purchasing items, but rather as a temporary rental that remains active for as long as the account is available to you.
Different companies, different policies :) This is not the first game I've chosen to invest my time and money into but it sure is the first one to decline me a refund of something I "purchased" and was removed from the game's content. Would I consider it as a rental, then the item I used to rent is no longer viable to me. Does this mean my rental ended already? Well maybe add some time queue so I can have an idea how long will it work in the future :)
Hansiman (EUNE)
: That's totally up to you. It's always been part of the ToU that they may alter things at any point in the future.
Well, that logic unfortunately renders anything bought this way useless as I have no claim to them if anything else. Never mind! Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. I'll be more careful with the content I am about to pay for next time. Especially when it comes to League.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Greetings. I'm afraid Riot doesn't offer refunds in cases like this. You're only left with the refund tokens your account was given, but they can only be used within a limited time.
Well, let this be a lesson to me, not to purchase any digital "goods" in the future :)
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Wen294 (EUW)
: difference between jax e and irelia is that jax's is predictable AF and easy to dodge. Irelia can just point and click q + e with some auto attacks here and there and demolish squishies with it. There just isn't much counterplay to it. And no, taking damage is not counterplay. Irelia as a whole imo is a bit too much of a generalist.
Really? Have you for example ever tried playing jayce/kennen or vlad and simply not stay near low health minions? You will soon find out that she is predictable as every other character ;) And about her taking damage. Simply take if from different perspective. he is either all in gain or loss and you have to know when you can go in.
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