: that was before the tencent nation attacked...
Too late, Graves got his cigar back.
Rioter Comments
Snook888 (EUW)
: [Skin Idea] Bartender Singed
Neat. Mix, mix swiiiiirl, mix, mix swiiiiiirl. {{champion:27}} {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
TrustEdY (EUNE)
: Officer Leona Skin
The W for this officer skin might be a sound wave when she blows a police whistle. Btw, can you make Sun Goddess Leona too? We have sun goddess Karma (ugly skin skin, but still...) and Moon goddess Diana.
Nedooo (EUW)
: [Suggestion] New ping System ?
I'm still waiting for the other 4 ping time. It would be nice as a supp main.
Scrinnid (EUNE)
: You can keep healing in combat as healers and lifestealers. You cant do that with warmog.
Half of the regen continues in combat and healing costs mana. This is also a stuff you can get for mere gold on any champion. Garen, Tham, Mundo...etc already has such mechanics and mostly become unkillable after getting a warmog and a spirit visage. They have half of the regen in combat, which still feels like getting heal for no mana. The biggest problem that some champions scale with HP in damage so they can kill while they are safe.
Rioter Comments
: Why Akali Getting Nerfed on a Assassins Rework?! Riot pls Answer...
It was impossible to survive or run away from Akali already. The R change is great.
Rioter Comments
Zillis (EUW)
: Is Brand support troll?
Well, if you play it on ranked it's a little bit troll, but if you play it on normal it's fine.
Fajerk (EUW)
: Better than if they try to convince you to be support main http://imgur.com/mttdjct
"How to get flamed for no reason" starting pack. {{sticker:zombie-nunu-tears}}
House x33 (EUW)
: http://i.epvpimg.com/oAD0f.png I was hoping for a proper janna skin... Oh well
It still has some special effect changes, but go for star guardian or Forecast if you can.
xZabaksx (EUW)
: got complete crap! 30% El Tigre Braum {{champion:201}} {{summoner:31}} 20% Haunted Zyra {{champion:143}} {{item:3139}} 40% Frostqueen Janna {{champion:40}} {{item:3092}} 70% Eternum Rek'Sai {{champion:421}} {{item:3634}} 50% Spirit Fire Brand {{champion:63}} {{item:3113}} 70% Boom Boom Blitzcrank{{champion:53}} {{item:3025}} {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
Eternum and Boom Boom is pretty good. I only got one 70% deal.
Vailikki (EUNE)
: I think Riot is trying to sell me some project skins
I got Leona, so I approve. But they know what you wan't because they give me support deals every time and thats my main role. Only if I would get some on Janna.... I still appreciate it. I'm facing some really hard choices here: - I have Pool party Leona with pink chroma, I don't main her, but the deal is really good for 405 RP - I main Nami, but already have her Koi skin with violet-gold chroma and I think the side fins look weird. - I have program Soraka, but throwing bananas......LITERALLY, is hard to resist. - I already have Dj and Silent night Sona. - I have Starguardian lux, but Steel legion Lux has smaller animations than hitbox so gives advantage. - I'm sure I'm gonna buy Little devil Teemo instead of the offer so atleast that one is 100% out. http://imgur.com/a/kQX2S
: > You click on the champion or watch the enemy teams items. Jesus, what's so frikin' hard about that. Invisible means you can't see it. You can also see if a champion has it by the aura mark around them. THIS WAS A BAD TRY!! just no, no, no.....You see auras pretty easily. Every last one of them has a visual effect. EVEN THE FRINKIN' SONA BUFFS!!! Not like that... invisible as you couldn't feel them. In a teamfight someone wouldn't come out saying "we won that because of agis aura" it was unnoticeable in its effect on the game because there was no interaction with it which ment that there was no real way to play around it as you couldn't tell how effective it actually was being... same with all the other stat boosting auras. > Assassin damages were buffed, cds and areas got slightly nerfed in some cases (for example Katarina, Rengar). They changed the CD's and the areas, but you kill one target easier. You can still kill a target faster if in one rotation, you just have to wait more between 2 . Nope... they are the same if not greater damage but it's over a longer duration which means you have more time to react to it... which means it will be easier for a support to do its job. > 90 - 345 (based on level), It wasn't mentioned anywhere it gets buffed. On the pbe it's currently 70-665 (based on level), duration increased to 2.5 seconds and the shield decays over the duration. The promo page isn't gonna have every change the nitty gritty stuff was just put on the pbe so you need to look on sites like surrender@20 or the wiki for them > Not if you don't waste them at the same time. Plus QSS is still there to save them. The maximum amount of low priority spells is usually 1. But they are either escapes, like MF's slow or damage like twitch's poison. The new spellshield will be an activated 1.5 channel and it works with QSS at the same time. You go into the bush and come out with spellshield. It will last for 10 seconds on a 30s cd. OP af. No... damage interrupts the channel so anything from a Sun fire cape to an auto attack will stop it... So unless you let them get their spell shield by not touching them they won't be able to get it,and if they do get it you've messed up horribly and now deserve to be punished. > It will have a long 10 sec duration and a low 30 sec cd, the channel is only 1,5 seconds. (can be used in a bush hide) Qss will work with it without going through all the hassle. This + Qss+ Morgana E still busted and you can have the timing and planing of a cardboard 7 player, you still won't get CC-ed for a while. (If your Morgana and you are not both plants and use both when the channeled spellshield is still on you) But all it takes is running into a bush and popping it up. Again damage will interrupt the channel so if you try to do it while having a morg shield on you your still gonna get interrupted by getting punched in the face.
> Not like that... invisible as you couldn't feel them. In a teamfight someone wouldn't come out saying "we won that because of agis aura" it was unnoticeable in its effect on the game because there was no interaction with it which ment that there was no real way to play around it as you couldn't tell how effective it actually was being... same with all the other stat boosting auras. > Nobody says this and all support items can be busted this way. So sir, you can't play against MR. Thats' all. > > > > On the pbe it's currently 70-665 (based on level), duration increased to 2.5 seconds and the shield decays over the duration. The promo page isn't gonna have every change the nitty gritty stuff was just put on the pbe so you need to look on sites like surrender@20 or the wiki for them > Decays over time. That already sucks. You wait 1 sec and it's already weaker than the original. It was buffed only by 0,5 sec. it doesn't replace the nerfs it got. Decaying over time is an other nerf. > Again damage will interrupt the channel so if you try to do it while having a morg shield on you your still gonna get interrupted by getting punched in the face. > L2 position or don't play assassins. Still works with Qss so still can initiate with it and get over 2 CC. THAN get a morgana shield, a Mikael's active and you are free of the 3rd and 4th CC. There are already a plenty of ways to avoid CC. WE DON'T NEED MORE! It's toxic.
: > There are a ton off other unhealthy things in the game. Like a Diana or Elise one-shot, Brand damage. That's why you buy aegis, so you can save your carries while giving them freedom to build more offensive. Aegis is needed..... Unhealthy in a different way... the aura was invisible so you couldn't interact with it or anything... So nobody in the game could notice if it was actually doing anything... it's something called invisible power where a 0 interact thing gives a powerful buff which you won't notice at all but it affects the game... zekes, sona, taric and agis where the main offenders of the aura side of things, all of them have now lost it. > Tank supports were in the least amount of danger from assassins. They are never alone, they are more like a walking wall than 2 Cho'gath glued to each other and most of them have 2 basic spell CC or 1 CC + shield, heal (exception: Malphite, Amumu and unadvised tank supports) . Squishy supports gonna suck more dick now than ever before. Firstly when your against an assassin you don't wonder off, they are masters of making picks so it doesn't matter if your soraka or alistar you go with at least a partner. Secondly why on earth would an assassin bother targeting you... assassins have a small window of power to assassinate and only really have one chance per fight, that change is to kill a carry not a support. So if an assassin is killing you that's actually good, you've neutralized the adc's primary threat. > Now they build both and get 2. Doesn't work like that. Spell shields have a weird interaction that they don't take turns in proccing so if you've got two spell shields and you block an ability that spell will break both shields. That's why if your playing nocturn or sivir with banshes you have to be very careful about activating your spell shield as if the first is already up you will lose both. The new assassin item has to be channelled to get the spell shield and that can be interrupted by damage so you have to use it at the start of the fight, banshes will be active at the start of the fight as well so if you buy both you are guaranteed to waste one. > Supports barely have any have low priority spells because most of their spells are CC, saving spell, or positioning tool. ADC's have few spells that can burn a spellshield and has low CD. Usually 1/champion. Maybe Ezreal can spam to get rid of 2 spellshield, but than he will lose a lot of damage Almost all adcs have some kind of low priority spell they can use... only draven and vayne don't have some kind of low priority spell... and like I said before one spell is enough to break both. > Don't think they won't build Bansee's veil. There are a lot sadistic, assassin main twats out there who build a little bit tanky to watch the world burn. It's the same shit like Yasuo, build tanky and become useful in 0/13. Oh I'm hoping they do... build a tanky item which they won't get any use out of because it conflicts with another item... makes it easier for me to defend my adc. > They said everything will be fine when they released Rengar and Kha'zix, but they slaughtered everyone and had to get beaten by the nerf hammer several in the same week. Everything is fine always, because the will probably throw in some new assassin skins before they nerf all this shit back. Actually across the board assassins take longer to kill someone... it's the same damage but over a much longer period of time so it will be easier to stop them. Also just use locket... 600 health shield for your entire team is more than enough to shut an assassin down.
> the aura was invisible so you couldn't interact with it or anything... So nobody in the game could notice if it was actually doing anything > > You click on the champion or watch the enemy teams items. Jesus, what's so frikin' hard about that. Invisible means you can't see it. You can also see if a champion has it by the aura mark around them. THIS WAS A BAD TRY!! just no, no, no.....You see auras pretty easily. Every last one of them has a visual effect. EVEN THE FRINKIN' SONA BUFFS!!! > > Actually across the board assassins take longer to kill someone... it's the same damage but over a much longer period of time so it will be easier to stop them > Assassin damages were buffed, cds and areas got slightly nerfed in some cases (for example Katarina, Rengar). They changed the CD's and the areas, but you kill one target easier. You can still kill a target faster if in one rotation, you just have to wait more between 2 . > Oh I'm hoping they do... build a tanky item which they won't get any use out of because it conflicts with another item... makes it easier for me to defend my adc. > > Even ADC's build banshee's veil. Everyone builds it if they face champions with game changing spells like Amumu, Blitz or Morgana. It doesn't conflict with any item. But if you like dying under 1 CC just don't build it. You do you Bubu. > Also just use locket... 600 health shield for your entire team is more than enough to shut an assassin down. > > > 90 - 345 (based on level), It wasn't mentioned anywhere it gets buffed. > Almost all adcs have some kind of low priority spell they can use... only draven and vayne don't have some kind of low priority spell... and like I said before one spell is enough to break both. > Not if you don't waste them at the same time. Plus QSS is still there to save them. The maximum amount of low priority spells is usually 1. But they are either escapes, like MF's slow or damage like twitch's poison. The new spellshield will be an activated 1.5 channel and it works with QSS at the same time. You go into the bush and come out with spellshield. It will last for 10 seconds on a 30s cd. OP af. > > Doesn't work like that. Spell shields have a weird interaction that they don't take turns in proccing so if you've got two spell shields and you block an ability that spell will break both shields. That's why if your playing nocturn or sivir with banshes you have to be very careful about activating your spell shield as if the first is already up you will lose both. > The new assassin item has to be channelled to get the spell shield and that can be interrupted by damage so you have to use it at the start of the fight, banshes will be active at the start of the fight as well so if you buy both you are guaranteed to waste one.> > > > It will have a long 10 sec duration and a low 30 sec cd, the channel is only 1,5 seconds. (can be used in a bush hide) Qss will work with it without going through all the hassle. This + Qss+ Morgana E still busted and you can have the timing and planing of a cardboard 7 player, you still won't get CC-ed for a while. (If your Morgana and you are not both plants and use both when the channeled spellshield is still on you) But all it takes is running into a bush and popping it up.
: I find your lack of faith in the nerf hammer...disturbing. http://www.maniacworld.com/images/i-find-your-lack-of-faith-disturbing-2.jpg
Well, the disturbing fact that only my faith in the mighty ban hammer can save me from suffering and torment in Teemo's domain if I wan't to play my favorite champions in the future. (mostly squishy, immobile supports; mages and trolls....*cough*..... I mean Bard; Karthus; Ivern)
: Frost queens is useless for melee tanks... not every support item needs to be able to be used by every class, tank supports need just as many unique itemization options as any other class. The second might be situational but most support items are, you build it if your dying a lot at beginnings of fights or if you have a lot of lock down. And yes the point of agis was the aura... but stat boosting auras aren't healthy and is something riot has been trying to get rid of for a while (hence their sona and taric reworks...), it's amazing they let agis survive as long as they did. And while it's lost its old niche it's gained a new one by giving support access to mixed defences and building into two items which are still good. > Still, if you can't CC assassins and your vision is hindered you are good as dead. Well ccing assassins now is the same as when they build banshes veil, somebody just has to throw a low priority spell first to break it then you cc. And control wards aren't invisible and if one of your team's wards is getting suppressed you still get vision of the control ward so it's not like it's hard to clear out the anti vision... Plus if one of your wards go dark that's enough information as is to know someone is over there... you just have to react accordingly and clear that control ward out later.
> And yes the point of agis was the aura... but stat boosting auras aren't healthy > There are a ton off other unhealthy things in the game. Like a Diana or Elise one-shot, Brand damage. That's why you buy aegis, so you can save your carries while giving them freedom to build more offensive. Aegis is needed..... > Frost queens is useless for melee tanks... not every support item needs to be able to be used by every class, tank supports need just as many unique itemization options as any other class. > Tank supports were in the least amount of danger from assassins. They are never alone, they are more like a walking wall than 2 Cho'gath glued to each other and most of them have 2 basic spell CC or 1 CC + shield, heal (exception: Malphite, Amumu and unadvised tank supports) . Squishy supports gonna suck more dick now than ever before. > Well ccing assassins now is the same as when they build banshes veil, somebody just has to throw a low priority spell first to break it then you cc. > Now they build both and get 2. Supports barely have any have low priority spells because most of their spells are CC, saving spell, or positioning tool. ADC's have few spells that can burn a spellshield and has low CD. Usually 1/champion. Maybe Ezreal can spam to get rid of 2 spellshield, but than he will lose a lot of damage. Don't think they won't build Bansee's veil. There are a lot sadistic, assassin main twats out there who build a little bit tanky to watch the world burn. It's the same shit like Yasuo, build tanky and become useful in 0/13. They said everything will be fine when they released Rengar and Kha'zix, but they slaughtered everyone and had to get beaten by the nerf hammer several in the same week. Everything is fine always, because the will probably throw in some new assassin skins before they nerf all this shit back.
: Not really... they added a bond item which gives 40 armour and movement speed when moving towards something, and a new item which gives you the ability to heal or deal damage even when dead (and a lot of damage, if you land it it's 10% max health as true damage). They also haven't removed agis... it's still in the game but without the aura and has armour instead of health. Locket is also in the game still and late game the shield value has doubled... ardent censor now gives an on hit drain to the people you heal/sheild. Plus straight up buffs to chalice, athenes, banner, eye of oasis, face of the mountain, crucible, talisman, and zekes. Plenty of buffs to supports during this preseason.
The tank zeke is pretty useless if you are not a tank support. The 2nd is situational, and the whole point of aegis was the frikin' aura. Still, if you can't CC assassins and your vision is hindered you are good as dead.
: I'd love a skin that makes him look like a Tidal Najarala from Monster Hunter. I also think a water theme could fit him pretty well. https://zarnaguamore.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/monster-hunter-4-ultimate-beasts-tidal-najarala-render.jpg
Yea, Warcraft 3 Nagas had winged serpents as flying units.
Saldone (EUNE)
: WARNING: ASSASSIN UPDATE
Talon is funny as heck, I like how faceroller Katarina mains rage about her rework while she got damage buffs and extra resets in the cost of getting more predictable and I feel sorry about Leblanc because she got completely gutted. Lb now has her mark on her passive, but she only has 1 jump, 3 damaging ability, only one aou that can mark multiple targets to place multiple marks and her Q is still single target, point-and-click. Her W has a jump back time gap and her passive takes time to charge, giving the enemy time to react, run around the rift naked or beat LB to death with a rubber chicken. Twitch presence can be detected by the flashing explanation mark. I don't think he was OP and I don't main him or anything. Fizz, Kha'zix and Zed are already fine as they are now. Akali still has disgusting chasing potential and her invisibility problem is not solved at all because we are not retards to forget about red trinkets. Aside from the Fizz, Kha'zix Akali and Zed buff, the gutting of LB, the nerf of Twitch I agree with the champion reworks. The vision item changes came straight from an assassin main, but the only reason I don't say it's from the flaming depths of hell because Teemo doesn't benefit from it. #kappa It evenn hurts him a tiny bit. Who thought it's a good idea to make invisible assassins able to go anywhere they want and give them shiny new stuff for every situation? Invisibility+spellshield= Talon-Morgana lovechild Invisibility+guaranteed dodge= How to get away from an angry Braum or Tham after you murder their ADC. Btw, if Zed calls himself a better "support" because he takes out 1 single ward with his Duskblade I'll give him a prostate massage with my Frost Queen's Claim. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
Anxiel (EUW)
: I love how they made katarina even worse and more predictable she is bassicaly unplayble now this taken year to come up for her damn you rito......{{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
She is predictable so she is counterable, but if she is used well, she can get resets without killing anyone and deal damage. Plus she can jump on her own daggers now. Predictable ? Yes. Worse? Not at all.
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: ummm, close, but still not enough, control wards do the pink ward job of showing camouflage. It's just that stealth mechanic was changed. TL.DR.: control wards are simply upgraded vision wards. It's pointless of riot to change the name, looks like it just confuses people.
Well, Sadly camouflage champions are the least powerfull ones from stealth champions so we can wipes our bottoms with that effect. I though they keep the nerfed one and add control wards separetly, but meh. Control wards just going to serve assassins more than anyone else because as a "pikaboo" ANAL-yzer you want the lack of enemy vision while laners want to boost their defense with their own vision. The only thing you get it from this as a laner is more ganks if your assassin teammate is not a selfish jerk. (ohohohoooo, sweet dreams) {{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}}
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: Update hasnt even come out yet, it's barely been half a day since it came to pbe, it's too early to talk what assasins are really like. > If pinks get removed No, pinks don't get removed, they just get renamed into control wards and get added that neat complete vision denial effect to what they already do.
> Now that Rengar and Twitch are in the Camouflage camp, we're able to give power back to stealth champions. So, Vision Wards have been updated into a more focused anti-vision tool: Control Wards. Control Wards still grant their own vision, but also provide strong vision denial—they reveal and disable nearby enemy wards and traps—but they don't reveal Invisible champs. > They no longer have the invisibility reveal against champions so they are no longer pink wards. Just a permanent wards with ability denial.
Hipercsiga (EUNE)
: 6.21 or how to make support mains quit
Wow, 7 "none of them" votes. Happy assassin mains....*sigh*
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: Teemo's special, according to Riot description it's neither camouflage nor invisibility, but the way it will work it's gonan be like invisibility.
Well, yea. Riot said they won't remove pinks which confused me because they did eventually removed them. ....talking about keeping their promises.... Control wards will replace them but they don't reveal any kind of stealth. Twitch is still nerfed though thanks to the flashing explanation mark. {{sticker:zombie-nunu-tears}}
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: > Control ward will be introduced which will be an invisible vision denying ward. First clarification from my point, i called it vision ward for simplicity because it still looks the same and does almost the same and now the main point i think you missread something or missunderstood something about it, vision ward and control ward does exactly the same except control ward does it better and more so there's no reason for both of them to exist also this is exactly wha was said from the link you gave: > Vision Wards have been updated into a more focused anti-vision tool: Control Wards doesnt sound like a new type of ward, just an update for the current one(with a new name) > Everyone who had a little bit of common sense and faced them in a match bought them. then it looks like hardly anyone has common sense > Yes, they do, but Sweeping lens (the basic red trinket) is used more often only because it makes you able to sneak through wards undetected eventually evryone who bought sweeping lens upgrades it to oracles because later game becomes less about ganks and more about vision control. these assasin updates werent aboutmaking assassins weaker, but only healthier to play against, which was mainly was about increasing the amount of time it takes for assassin to kill anyone.
> [{quoted}](name=Enjutsu,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=NY9O21sv,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-10-19T09:54:25.686+0000) > > First clarification from my point, i called it vision ward for simplicity because it still looks the same and does almost the same and now the main point i think you missread something or missunderstood something about it, vision ward and control ward does exactly the same except control ward does it better and more so there&#x27;s no reason for both of them to exist also this is exactly wha was said from the link you gave: > > doesnt sound like a new type of ward, just an update for the current one(with a new name) > > then it looks like hardly anyone has common sense > > eventually evryone who bought sweeping lens upgrades it to oracles because later game becomes less about ganks and more about vision control. > > these assasin updates werent aboutmaking assassins weaker, but only healthier to play against, which was mainly was about increasing the amount of time it takes for assassin to kill anyone. > > > these assasin updates werent aboutmaking assassins weaker, but only healthier to play against, which was mainly was about increasing the amount of time it takes for assassin to kill anyone.< > They did the opposite. In late game they can kill tanks easier than before. They have more options to ambush, and less counter against them when there are less towers on the map. Most of them got buffed except Lb and twitch, but twitch is more like an adc than assassin. If pinks get removed there will be no defense against any stealth champion aside from trinkets and towers. Twitch still gets nerfed though, because an explanation mark will appear if he gets too close. Poor twitch. Riot stated the won't remove pink, but they still did it. That confused me and I think this is a next level backstabbing move. > > but they don't reveal Invisible champs. > Well, they remove pinks because they turn them into control wards. If they don't do what they function was before they are basicly replacing it with a completely different item.
: I hope twitch ambush will nto be countered by pink wards, twitch cannot go invisible in middle of fight, and he should be awarded for surviving few secs without aking hit to go into invisibility, Vayne and khazix should be revealed by ward.
> [{quoted}](name=TheDebowyMocny,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=NY9O21sv,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-10-19T08:39:06.343+0000) > > I hope twitch ambush will nto be countered by pink wards, twitch cannot go invisible in middle of fight, and he should be awarded for surviving few secs without aking hit to go into invisibility, > > > Vayne and khazix should be revealed by ward. It will be the opposite. Twitch has only camouflage while Vayne and Kha'zix have invisibility. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/preseason-2017/assassins#stealth Twitch, Teemo, Rengar, Evelynn has camouflage. Also, invisible traps will be revealed by pink ward aswell. Everything else falls into the invisibility category and can only be revealed by red trinkets, towers or special champion abilities like TF's ult. To further push this, twitch's camouflage will alarm enemy champions if he gets too close with an explanation mark flashing above their head just like it did for evelynn before.
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: Not 6.21 but 6.22, 6.21 is the current patch with no significant changes, 6.22 is where all those changes wil come. This is a very one sided look at changes, you should have a look at support changes too, also while pink ward did lose ability to detect invisibility it got buffed by the way of completly negating vision. And pink ward wasnt nerfed, i call bullshit on anyone who claims they actually bought pink wards to counter invisibility, i think i saw this happen only very few times during the time i played this game. Pink ward got a very big buff. There is one thing not mentioned about invisibility in these notes, but i saw it in posts from pbe(surrender@20). There will be a visual after effect(some gold particles) if you hit a skillshot or deal some damage while they're invisible(im not too sure on how exactly now, but there's something) and i think oracle lens will will still give that afterimage ,which is still rarely used for that pupose, but a alot more than pink wards. Also because because invisibility became more reliable, those champions should get nerfs for that, but they may also get nothing because as i said hardly anyone bothered to counter it it just existed as possibility as well as the fact that most of those champions got other big significant changes. Overall Riot just won't have to bother balancing those champions around the possibility that someone could completly counter theyr invisibility with a pink ward.
"also while pink ward did lose ability to detect invisibility it got buffed by the way of completly negating vision." It will be a completely new ward type called control ward, totally independent from pink ward. "Pink ward got a very big buff" It didn't gain any buff. Control ward will be introduced which will be an invisible vision denying ward. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/preseason-2017/assassins#stealth "hardly anyone bothered to counter it" Everyone who had a little bit of common sense and faced them in a match bought them. "oracle lens will will still give that afterimage ,which is still rarely used for that pupose, but a alot more than pink wards" Yes, they do, but Sweeping lens (the basic red trinket) is used more often only because it makes you able to sneak through wards undetected, mostly. It disables the ward for 6 seconds, stays in places even when you move and can be used in range. The only thing that the enemy can notice that the area turns "unwarded" for 6 seconds which is hard to notice. It can also disable teemo mushrooms for the period. skip to 2:52 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_Fr_ZO_qUg Against teemo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAotx9V6Bx8 The only champion who probably becomes much weaker is Leblanc. Even Katarina will get higher damage and extra resets if she uses her new mechanics right. So far there are no other nerfs mentioned.
: Also look at the new support items as well... there are some pretty good things happening for supports as well so don't count them out yet.
They added 2 support items and removed aegis of legion. One of them is just Zeke's harbinger for tank supports. WOOOWOWOWOWOW {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
Rioter Comments
: Looking carefully on Vladimir , he looks like an blood elf ( a mage one? ).
> [{quoted}](name=HighQualityRider,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=x9a1EhvX,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-18T20:33:36.510+0000) > > Looking carefully on Vladimir , he looks like an blood elf ( a mage one? ). That's Karthus not Vladimir.
: the only one of these people will actually buy is bard bard rest are hextect failures.
I think {{champion:30}} looks sexy for the first time in his afterlife.
Emil2g (EUNE)
: WHY?
Don't play ranked. You only get broken equipment, gray hair and stroke from it unless you are Korean which I assume you are not.
DELDE115 (EUW)
: First of all, that I know. But inspiration doesnt have to do with looks. http://aztecs.mrdonn.org/aztecs_snake.gif Look, that is a google pic for Aztec Snake. Dragons, from a biological stand point are snakes with wings, or giant Lizzards (depending on what type of dragon a person refers too).
This is just a snake, not a winged serpent ( Quetzalcoatl or the Mayan god, Kukulcan ). Please, go away with your mere snakes. "from a biological stand point " Dragons were inspired by dinosaurs bones found by primitive man. Dinosaurs are closer to lizards, not snakes. So a Quetzalcoatl or Kukulcan skin would not just change his color scheme, but also his model greatly. His legs would disappear or turn into under-belly wings he would also have wings on his back, jeweled plate all over his forehead and nose bridge, feathers all over his neck and spine and scales on his body. Plus his tail wouldn't be translucent. Your Aztec snake depiction has nothing to do with a winged serpent. One of them is an animal, the other is a frikin' mythological creature. Different model, different color scheme, different type of mythological category. Are you trying to tell me this looks like {{champion:136}} ? http://pre12.deviantart.net/90ac/th/pre/f/2012/064/b/0/quetzalcoatl_by_magichissi-d4rrro3.png https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTXP4Ic2Ac23JT8KjH77pTIlIISeh8anBlNVo2PgUAjldubvkzJ
DELDE115 (EUW)
: In my opinion, Aurelion Sol fits the Aztec theme with his classic skin already. I think it has to do with his dreadlocks, but who knows.
Aurelion is celestial and blue, not green, red and yellow. He was inspired by roman and Chinese mythology. He has no wings, feather crest, scales, fangs and he has no jewelry aside from his bounding crown unlike Quetzalqoatl. http://orig04.deviantart.net/de73/f/2009/205/1/3/quetzalcoatl_2_0_by_el_grimlock.jpg
Çhaòs (EUW)
: How to play Taliyah.
Actually, she has sick ratios and moves. People just tend to miss her spells, stand on worked ground and use her Q, lock out their teammates and die alone, flip Darius on themselves....stuff like that.
DELDE115 (EUW)
: NEW SKINS!!!! Nautilus, Trundle, Hecarim, AND Nasus
There is a Mayan jaguar god and a winged serpent god (they are also present in Aztec culture though) and they would fit Rengar{{champion:107}} and Aurelion sol{{champion:136}} as skin inspiration.
Wex0r (EUW)
: but to one target, everyone in 800 yards could be used to provide huge advantages.
800 yards is roughly 1 lane wide. He only gives bonus XP after slain units and instead of accumulating it he gives it to the people around him. Zilean gains XP after seconds, not kills and he can target the person he wants to boost with a level. Zilean doubles the given amount (himself and his target) and can cause surprise with it by casting it before a fight, giving a Darius or an MF a sudden lvl 6 over the lvl 5 enemy while Anonymus would give it in an expectable rate so the enemy would know when they will hit an extra lvl. Also freezing lanes or missing the CS would make his passive useless. Lane freezing is abused a lot in higher (elos gold-challenger). Also Alistar would counter him because he can deny CS by healing allied minions before they die, so they will die to enemy minions instead. Teemo, Graves, Quinn can blind enemies or shorten their range causing them miss some of their farm.
Wex0r (EUW)
: i like the idea but his abilities need work and that passive would be hard to balance. So yes to a priest from damacia( could be some great Lore options) But no to your abilities and passive. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}} A for effort.
Zilean has a similar ability, but he can give hundreds of XP to one champion and himself instead. His passive generates 2 / 3.5 / 5 / 6 / 12 XP every 5 seconds. So his passive is a little bit more powerful.
Wex0r (EUW)
: like have the massive pole on his back or it magically appears ?
Or It's just telescopic maybe.
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Wex0r (EUW)
: yep but i dunno how they gonna make the animation
Instead of throwing the hook he would reach out with the pole.
Wex0r (EUW)
: I think it would matter, no one wants two similar looking abilities, We just need to think a little harder for a LIfeguard related Hook thing, Maybe it could a long stick with a hook on like they use to drag stuff out of the pool with. ( not sure stick will work though animation wise )
like [this](http://www.aqua-pool-warehouse.com/Catalogs/catCleaningMaintenanceEquipment/R221026.asp)? This is a swimming pool safety hook. It's used to pull objects or people out of the pool without requiring the lifeguard to jump in. http://imgur.com/a/exBZu
Wex0r (EUW)
: but he already using the lifebelt for latern which would be a better representive
It doesn't really matter I think. And lifebelts have lashings on them so he just turns it around and uses it as a lasso.
Wex0r (EUW)
: i dunno none of them sound pool party or Life guardy ,, the second two sound Piratey which would be a different skin entirely but would fit with the upcoming lore.
Well, he can throw the lifebelt over the target and pull him that way.
Wex0r (EUW)
: Nice concept i would say this would end up as Pool Party thresh ( life guard Thresh) for his Ult he could blow his whistle and the surrounding barrier could be made of water. If his latern will be the life saver what would he use as his hook ?
Toilet pump, anchor, lashing (shipping rope)...idk. take your pick. :D
LordGabon (EUW)
: Found a funny louncher bug lol
yay, equal chances on aram. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-rainbows}}
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OnkeI Tom (EUW)
: The personality sounds a lot like how Reno Jackson from hearthstone is portrayed: https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/hearthstone.gamepedia.com/thumb/c/c5/Reno_Jackson_full.jpg/350px-Reno_Jackson_full.jpg?version=d55ab7b130a3043bea8c99dfc109ee49 He is an archeologist who seems to be more interested in the material value than historical one (Heck, his quote when you play him is "We're gonna be rich!"), but is kept in check by his friends.
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