: New pick system is not fit for purpose
This has an easy solution. The more support you play that day or 2 days or 5 games, the lesser should be the chance to get it again, even if you would be forced to wait longer. easy gg or just LEARN TO PLAY 3 ROLES maybe
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> [{quoted}](name=Daaddi,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=V6zieEfE,comment-id=0018,timestamp=2016-01-21T23:04:51.000+0000) > > Gonna get into bronze after my placements as well, however I can wait some weeks to have a chance of placing higher than bronze, but hell naw, challenge is the challenge 4Head It's no challenge when it doesn't depend on your performance. {{summoner:13}}
xExerionx (EUW)
: proof with screenshot or didnt happen.
> [{quoted}](name=xExerionx,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=V6zieEfE,comment-id=0019,timestamp=2016-01-21T23:09:01.720+0000) > > proof with screenshot or didnt happen. I already posted a screen, but not like I feel a need to prove anything, just saying.
I am silver (EUNE)
: 9-1 provisionals
So I'm playing against and with "the old gold" players, but am getting +27 for a win, now 13-3 and I'm at promo to Silver. When asked, they say they got to S2 or S3 after winning 4, 5 or 6 games in provisionals... And I am in Bronze after winning 9. I don't know. Next funny thing is that in one of those rankeds I got a still-unranked Leona to support me, she played well so I wanted to duo with her, but I couldn't even invite her because I was Bronze atm and she was Gold 2 in S5. So when I go solo and get to play with her, it's OK, but when I want to duo with the same person, I can't, because obviously I'm not at her level? Ridiculous.
: Idk why people are soooooooo whiny about SOFT reset. there's a reason its called SOFT RESET, It resets a.k.a puts you down, gives u fresh MMR, takes u lower and there you go, if you're worthy "X" elo you'll climb in no time anyway so Idk what's with all the "Q_Q I won 10/0 and Im not challanjur yet why rito". closer to points 1. yeah everyone got reset not just one person lol 2. Its kinda true tbh, you'll get where u belong once ladder is chilled a bit and people more or less go up and high. I got +97 LP today and im sure tomorrow will be the same 3. yeah winning is all people should care about right now 4. Its on average around first 1 month and a bit more tbh so I'd say just go and grind xD after I reach "X" divison Ill go on smurfs anyway and so will most of people so dont wait for any time 5. So far I either stomped games or had uncarriable team still im 7/3 after placements, and +97 if it goes like this I think Ill be in a good spot soon. Just keep grinding and that's it :b and dont duoQ it fuck mmr up lol
got from gold 4 to bronze 1 after wining 9/10 games how is this fair, tell me now i play against people that i played against before, meaning gold-plat but im in bronze so yeah really easy for me to climb back so where is the logic in that, please tell me and yes im mad because i tried so hard to win those games and all i got is a fuck you by the way why should i even climb back when i already got there 3 times, always from silver after wining only 5 or 6 games from 10, now i win 9 and get to bronze, is this the ultimate troll? first 2 games i played after provisionals i ended 15/4/13 and 21/4/15 but lost both of them. i lose 2 more and I will stay in bronze forever so yeah im kind of mad if there HAS TO BE SOME RESET why not reset everything to fucking unranked now people with 5/5 end up from gold 5 in s3 I after wining 9/10 end up in bronze 1 what the fuck
: Don't even worry about it. If you won 10/10 this means that you will easily be able to carry yourself out of Bronze. I started at Bronze V last season and ended in Plat V. The lower you start the more you can climb. You will get to Bronze IV and then probably skip a step or 2 and go to Bronze II or Bronze I directly. It does suck that you won 10 out of 10 and ended in Bronze V but the fact that you won last 10 mean that you are better then your ranking. Don't stress about it and start climbing. You will be out of there in no time.
> [{quoted}](name=Moritus Sorrowel,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=RGYvVhpk,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2016-01-21T16:14:49.495+0000) > > Don't even worry about it. If you won 10/10 this means that you will easily be able to carry yourself out of Bronze. I started at Bronze V last season and ended in Plat V. The lower you start the more you can climb. You will get to Bronze IV and then probably skip a step or 2 and go to Bronze II or Bronze I directly. It does suck that you won 10 out of 10 and ended in Bronze V but the fact that you won last 10 mean that you are better then your ranking. Don't stress about it and start climbing. You will be out of there in no time. well i was gold 4, won 9/10 and got to bronze 1 now I play in bronze with gold mmr against gold players having 15/5/13 and 21/4/20 score (2 games which i played after provisionals), ended up losing them because people are retards and here we go, I lose 3 more games and I will stay in Bronze forever... but playing against bronze and with bronze players start climbing, im gold and i get to bronze really am i supposed to climb every fucking season from sivler or bronze and get stuck in gold forever? why cant i just stay in gold if i play against and with gold players anyway? if there has to be some reset why isnt the reset COMPLETE like like we were UNRANKED
Cypherous (EUW)
: You're throwing numbers around that don't mean anything, we dont know that the default MMR is silver, that information is based off of data collected like 5 seasons back when there was a number linked to divisions, thats long since changed but people still assume it to be gospel, so without knowing what the default MMR is these days and without knowing what yhis exact MMR is we have no way to argue the case, historically speaking though unless you are very very low bronze you will not see an increase in your MMR with a soft reset and even then its not going to change massively There is nothing messed up with it and its the same formula they used for the last 5 resets, every year people always complain they are lower than they think they deserve to be :P
That's not true, because last 3 seasons I ended up in silver even tho I won only 6 or 5 games from 10. Now I won 9/10 and got Bronze. Like its reversed, lol, the more you win the lower you get. I dont give a shit about numbers but tell me why am I in Bronze if i play against gold 5-1 or plat players what is the reason in placing me to bronze? Is it supposed to encourage me? To climb where I was already? Well fuck it thats what I say. I really tried hard to win those games, but in the END IT DOESNT EVEN MATTER. Its like fuck you doesnt matter if you are good or bad, just fuck you, because we can.
Funny Ice (EUW)
: Bro i truly feel sorry for you, i hate RIOT for this shit promo system. All we can do is write on boards and complain in the hope that they hear us
Thank you, but I did not create this thread in hope to get my placement fixed, I just want to understand the logic behind this and if I was the only one.
Ulliete (EUW)
: Yea I think I got the message. Hope I'll be matched with "fake" bronze (aka ex gold / silver) in order to get out of there.
You will get matched against your elo players, meaning my opponents are now plat or gold even tho I am bronze 1. where is the freaking logic in that
I am silver (EUNE)
: 9-1 provisionals
So I played one game now, went 15/5/20 I think (ori which is my main) on the losing side for the whole time, rest of the team negative score and 12+ deaths. I asked about divisions of my opponents, Garen top told me he was plat 4 last season and he is in his provisionals now, so uhm, yeah, bronze 1. I know this doesnt prove that Im not bronze 1 level but why do I play with plat 4 players if im Bronze 1?
Ohr (EUW)
: Simple. Hidden elo. Everyones elo took a hit just like every new season. Most likely while in preseason you were sitting at Gold5 gaining very little LP for wins and losing 2-3 times more after a loss. Meaning you weren't kicked out of Gold 5, yet your hidden elo was probably somewhere around low Silver. This happened to me 2 seasons ago. No worries, just play and raise them divisions.
I was getting ~20 for a win. In the end of the preseason I played with my silver friend for a week but before that I played with D4-5 friend. So I think my mmr should be OK. I'm tired. I would be mad even if I got S3. I climbed from silver to gold like 3 or 4 seasons already. Bronze 1 is really a mockery.
coolbe (EUW)
: Bullshit. The reset pulls your mmr towards 1200 which is around silver 3. Formula: (mmr+1200)/2. You actually gain mmr provided you are low silver or bronze. If you were b5 (800 mmr i guess) you would end up at 1000mmr which should be high bronze. Winning 8 games from there would put you at least in mid silver since those placements give up to 50 rating. Ranked is just messed up atm because many get placed b5 with more than 5 wins.
So you say I'm lying? :D http://i.imgur.com/tPKOVWX.png
Smerk (EUW)
: I'm sorry to tell you this, but most, if not all, silvers were placed in bronze
Well I was not silver. Truth is I played with a silver friend just before the end of preseason, but when I played alone I played with players on my elo or higher. So I don't really think this should affect this that much that in the end I ended up in B1. Didn't play since that 10th game, but if I get like 40 LP for a win there was no point really in placing me into Bronze. Only thing that can happen is that I climb back where I was already OR I will get unlucky, lose like 4 games in a row because of AFKs or trolls (or my mistakes) and I will end up in Bronze for half a year, we all heard those stories. I don't really understand the logic behind this. I know that Riot is probably pushing me to play more or encourage me or something like that but what the hell, really, BRONZE? I played team rankeds on mid against diamond players with no problem. I'm in no way a bronze player. What is the chance that I win 90% of 10 games in rankeds? Not very high. If these were not provisionals but normal rankeds, I would already be in G3. Next thing is that in these provisionals players playing with me were really good, much better than guys from g5 I played with before. When I asked they said they were G3-G2 last season. Maybe luck. I was pretty sure I will get at least G5 if not better. {{item:3070}}
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