Semnex (EUW)
: Someone trying steal account
Just set a REALLY strong email password and your account is safe from being stolen. You should also set a really strong password on your account so he won't be able to brute force it.
CJXander (EUNE)
: Got rid of 50% of the toxicity
You actually removed 55.55555555% of the toxicity, not 50% :D
lelfgt1 (EUNE)
: Add a Balkan languages in league
Personally, i understand why you would want your own language added, but then again i don't. Games in my native language are usually akward. it's akward to say the names in my language and it just doesn't fit the style of video gaming. What's wrong with english?
Biophilic (EUW)
: All ADCs are useless without gold (items). This is the reason for flaming. Imagine Ashe who is not fed, she has no damage, no mobility, she cannot kill anyone but any1 in enemy's team can kill her.
Watch some pro games, you'd see that they don't get many kills at all. They mostly trade and focus on farm. Their adcs end up with 150-180 farm by minute 20. They focus on farming because killing is not always possible. Kills are not necessary to get gold.
Supz (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=JuiceBoxP,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=EMoI3JNt,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2018-09-30T14:36:35.120+0000) > > You just described every single mage support in the game. > Yes, mage supports don't focus on protecting the adc(although lux got her w, which i utilize very well for the protection of both of us). they focus on punching the enemies in the face. > > Mage supports are strong right now for a reason. > they provide the team with a lot of magic damage, while also doing everything a support needs to do, catch enemies with cc, set up vision and deny the vision for enemies. > > Another thing, you call those last few games my "stats" with lux. > Just the fact that i didn't have a negative KDA on all those games is amazing because on those games my teams were absolutely catastrophic. > At one of those games my entire team without exception had no less than 15 deaths to their name. > Maybe next time look into stats more than KDA, and some people have some bad games too. > The amount of games i carried into victory with mage supports are A lot. > > My last game i played brand, ended up 12/2/10 with 10k+ more damage than the entire team. > Guess what? i did not protect my adc one bit, but i still crushed bot lane alone, and yes, my adc was flaming me for taking > kills on the bot lane (despite the fact that when the adc was 1/4/2, i was 4/1/1, he has less assists than i have kills, thus he didn't even contribute to their death, but he still flamed me for it.) > , and yes i won the game almost alone. > > Edit - i just won another brand game, two in a row, both of them got my level 6 mastery shard with an S score. > Both me and my adc were extremely fed from the enemy bot laners and i did 90% of the damage on bot lane. my adc merely last shotted them. so yes, i don't need to protect them with mage supports, i need to harras my enemies Stay silver with that mentality and your lux support. Keep making these posts and find someone to blame for your games. I never saw anyone complain about stealing kills, but you probably encounter this way too often cause you play as mid lux instead of support lux. So please go mid if u want to play mid and stop ruining everyones game. "If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole."
Pardon me mr platinum, but i've been winning far more with mage supports than i've been winning with traditional supports in silver, because adcs in silver are straight up shite. If you got nothing to support, you're losing your entire purpose.
: You can take all of my kills but touch a single cs and I'm afk, no kappa.
: > [{quoted}](name=JuiceBoxP,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=EMoI3JNt,comment-id=00150000,timestamp=2018-10-01T13:21:53.688+0000) > > Explain to me, exactly, how am i denying you gold for a kill you wouldn't have ever gotten if you for example - died or let the enemy slip away? > And maybe get your facts right, that's 150 gold for assist and 300 for kill. > thus i "denied" you only 150. > basically i gave you 150 gold for doing nothing. > you can get your 700 gold by farming the waves i gave you for free because the enemies are dead. > see? everyone profits. 1.Then it wouldn't be a kill steal. 2. 300-150=150 I don't really get your point 3. doing nothing? When the adc gets someone down to 10% and you ks it with Lux E it's nothing? 4. 700 gold would be about 5 waves, yeah good job killing the enemies 3 times in a row in base The main point is that why would you complain about someone that you griefed? You deny them their position while not being reportable and you don't even realize it. When the ADC doesn't do damage and they have 7 assists instead of kills, how much of a gold difference would that make? Would it make the ADC a bad player because the support stole all the kills? Yes, since they get the blame from the entire team. You are basically trolling by playing a carry support without a premade ADC and then only caring about your KDA. Well, congrats for having a good KDA but it really didn't help your team.
> [{quoted}](name=Pharcon,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=EMoI3JNt,comment-id=001500000000,timestamp=2018-10-01T13:45:57.322+0000) > > 1.Then it wouldn't be a kill steal. thank you very much for agreeing with my, that's all i ever meant in this post. > 2. 300-150=150 I don't really get your point > 3. doing nothing? When the adc gets someone down to 10% and you ks it with Lux E it's nothing? Since when can a level 4-6 adc get someone down to 10% all by herself? she would be murdered before that happens. > The main point is that why would you complain about someone that you griefed? Griefed? you are really insulting me. And quite clearly haven't read the post. > You deny them their position while not being reportable and you don't even realize it. > When the ADC doesn't do damage and they have 7 assists instead of kills, how much of a gold difference reportable? You sound like some bronze adc main You know what, i'm just gonna sit back and let my adc do the afk farming, and killing all by herself so i won't "deny his position" he can use the free waves i'm giving him to farm and build items along with the assist i granted him. what does he need more than that? > would that make? Would it make the ADC a bad player because the support stole all the kills? Yes, since they get the >blame from the entire team. Again with the stole, get over it. it's a team game, we all need gold. > You are basically trolling by playing a carry support without a premade ADC and then only caring about your KDA. > Well, congrats for having a good KDA but it really didn't help your team. it helped my team alot. it gave them free gold for the kills i secured, AND, i can give my adc free farming time, AND I can build my core essentials items faster. You are literally the perfect example of those silver adc flamers who got "their" kill taken.
: You deny me 200g on first blood, then at least 250g on every other kill. It's not about you giving your ADC 450g, it's about denying them 700g (that's two longswords). You are not going to carry, I am. Might aswell complain about not being allowed to take CS next? Also Lux "support", why should you complain about denying carries their position, you're going to carry with all that gold, right?
Explain to me, exactly, how am i denying you gold for a kill you wouldn't have ever gotten if you for example - died or let the enemy slip away? And maybe get your facts right, that's 150 gold for assist and 300 for kill. thus i "denied" you only 150. basically i gave you 150 gold for doing nothing. you can get your 700 gold by farming the waves i gave you for free because the enemies are dead. see? everyone profits.
Smyrage (EUNE)
: If your 'supporting' hurts the ADC's farm and hinders his scaling up, then you ought to reconsider how you play. I play mostly ADC & Support. Many people don't feel comfortable with playing with mages like Lux or Brand on botlane, especially when the ADC lacks escape (Varus for example). Such picks can paralyze your ADC, because he won't be able to push. It can be quite annoying. The other problem with these mages that most people just can't do it right. If you keep hitting your ADCs farm, then you are already doing it wrong, because you are messing with his lane. With Brand it is close to impossible not to hit your ADC's farm and Lux requires really good positioning. I understand that taking kills as support is sometimes inevitable, but really if you see the enemy ADC or support really low then either try to leave them alone or finish them off if the ADC can't do it in time, but if you take the kill right from the nose of the ADC, then yeah, I can imagine they will flame you. :D And again: supports shouldn't make calls. If you are in a premade then sure, but in solo q it will be much healthy for both of you if you try to correct the mistakes of your ADC or follow his calls.
that adc should be able to last hit the minions whether i hit them a little too or not. if an adc can't do that then that's a whole different problem. it doesn't really matter if i'm pushing the lane a little. Even if i'm taking 6-10 farm from my adc it won't hurt him that much if he has 120-150. BTW, i don't know how many times you played with a person who actually knows how to utilize his skills for escape, but i find brand's/lux's abilities quite sufficient for escape. they both got stun/snare and a slow. Plus, with proper warding in bot lane you don't even need to escape because you will see the enemy jungler before he hits you. that's the magic of vision. And yes, supports call the shots because they're the active laner on bot. the adc should be farming sitting tightly for his support to flank and initiate a good all in.
: This is usually when you can tell a bad ADC and a Good ADC I am an aggressive Support and I like to go all in with my attacks as a Sona Main and I am not ashamed of that and I even let my ADC know that this is the way I will be playing. Now I have had the BAD ADC who will literally flame and throw a game all because I took ONE kill from their 10/0 or if I have taken more than 5 creeps by the time he/she has reached 100 and I know must players will agree that is indeed a Bad attitude. Meanwhile I have also played with ADC where they are 0/0/5 whilst I am 5/0/0 and never complained and when I do say "I am sorry Ive got all the kills so far" there response is typically "I have 4000 gold right now, My CS is double or even triple the opposing ADC and my Support has good items nice and early... this is EXACTLY what I hope for" and usually within 10 minutes they are tearing through the enemy team and will be 20/1/5 and thats all because they didnt see their support getting kills as a problem but as a wonderful blessing that means that they will be carried to the point that they can unleash their power nice and safely.
Literally this. summed up this whole thread.
: Then go on and carry it to the end. Oh, wait... but you've got no damage!
You seem to completely miss the point. I do my job as the support to set up kills for the adc. If my adc is not jumping on those setups and taking the kill, be it whatever reason i will ignite the enemy and take that kill just so he won't run away on 5% health you understand that if i don't kill the enemy, he will just slip away because the adc is too incompetent to kill him on his own? then yes, i will take kills where my adc is not competent enough or is not able to take. However, they are not happy with the 150 gold that would otherwise be 0. no. they are too greedy minded to think about the fact that they were not in a position to take it, and just flame.
Proppa (EUW)
: I don't mean any disrespect by this, but it seems the ones who genuinely think that APC "supports" are good, are silver and below? Looking at the op.gg stats. So whilst it probably is a solid strategy in low elo, maybe it's not as effective the more challenging the fights get? I'm not saying I'm better or anything like that, just wondering if people learn to counter it more?
I personally think adcs at higher elo are worth supporting, which makes supporting them with champions who are "supports" supports is worth it. Low elo adcs are not worth supporting because they're bad.
Proppa (EUW)
: Then why not play a lane where you can carry, without having a negative impact on the ADC's mentality? You can play Lux mid and snowball better as you can gain CS aswell as Kills. So you get a faster gold advantage. If you find your bot lane is terrible, atleast you can rely on yourself carrying. ADC's feel like they are in a horrible state this season, they can't dent bruisers, assassins destroy them, mages poke them down easily and tanks outdamage them. So without support/protection, it's a horrible lane to play. It's important to have synergy with the support, as you rely on them to protect you etc.
i am playing other lanes. i still see this happening even if i'm on mid or jg. support was securing a kill and the adc flamed him until the game has ended instead of taking that 150 gold and putting it to good use.
: Maybe the problem is that you arent playing support but an APC.
lux has an AOE shield, a double snare and a slow. Sounds like a perfectly fine support.
Yraco (EUW)
: I'm an adc main and never flame my support since I also have supp as my secondary so I know how hard it can be. Tbh this post sounds just as entitled as half the adcs crying "ks" with the way you're saying in caps you can take all the kills you want with you being the important member of the lane phase. Adcs shouldn't blame the people helping them get through the laning phase in the same way supports shouldn't act superior just because they usually make up the early strength.
by no means did i say the support is entitled to take all their kills at their own will, nor do i think this is beneficial, however you completely missed the point. agree or not, the support is responsible for making plays in the bot lane, for the reasons i stated above. if an adc will NOT land the killing blow, i will certainly not allow the kill to slip. so i will take it and i will not hesitate. 150 gold for assist is much better than no gold at all.
: Everything ok. Except this: > I AM the one who calls the shots on bot lane, not you. Lol no! You're the one with shield, CC and everything, and it is your responsibility to make everything easy for your ADC. Try to call all the shots — and the team will end up with a fed support and no ADC. Of course you can always flame ADC in this case... But if you want to win, start calling shots that actually support your ADC. Just "poke" and "bring down to 10%" is not enough.
Sorry, if the adc can't land 2 auto attacks on the enemy bot laner, i sure as hell will.
Proppa (EUW)
: It's alot down to the items you build aswell etc, I mean 10 to 30% attack speed with 5/20 on hit extra damage is quite a lot, when it can be applied constantly by supports like Nami/Lulu. They also give bonus movement speed Nami/Lulu, Nami can Heal substantialy, aswell as bonus magic damage from her E. There are also the runes, summon aery granting shield, Font of Life heals your allies when you impare the movement of an enemy or Revitalize granting stronger heals etc. Lux isn't a bad pick, but when you are used to playing with a support who builds item to support you, giving you increased damage etc, on champions like Twitch with my ult up, give me a nami boost and I'll do so much damage in team fights. Even without ult and runaan's stacking up. Lux is one of those champions who just wants to poke/kill and doesn't want to protect the ADC. It's insane the difference it can make if you protect the ADC/Carries. So many games, people just want to go all in and watch the ADC get one shot.
Maybe you are a good adc. Quite possibly infact. However, Building ardent censer and healing an adc with 60 farm at minute 20 who does close to no damage, is a joke. I often find myself even when playing nami leaving bot lane in favor of helping mid because my adc is so goddamn useless that even if i ult+bubble+exhaust the enemy and e on the adc he can't get a kill, then i've got nothing left to do. As i said, a good support is worth supporting, a bad one isn't
Luxienna (EUW)
: Looking for good/playable Support to learn and master. I will send my Lux to holidays...,
I'd recommend either nami or morgana. Their ultimates are just game changing. Brand is also viable, but it's more of an apc than a support. One nami ultimate can throw an entire team off and win a teamfight. Morgana's ult is just amazing aswell. Combined with zhonya. The combo: run in/ flash in > R > get focused >immediately activate zhonya > watch the entire enemy team get stunned / burn all their summoners and throw them extremely out of position > win OR don't get focused > keep chasing the enemies so the chains won't break > stun them all > win rinse and repeat. Also, morgana's laning phase is one of the strongest on bot lane, zoning out enemies is a breeze with her, simply walk infront of your minions and threaten them with your q. her black shield blocks all CC in every form and shape, which is extremely powerful! you can laugh at blitzcrank, pyke, thresh, lux and practically every champion with any form of cc. Morgana is literally the queen of zoning enemies out of cs and exp. Nami's laning phase is also very strong. her q can be thrown anywhere, doesn't matter how many minions are seperating between you and the enemy adc. she goes VERY WELL with any adc based on basic attacks(pretty much all of them) thanks to her E and counters draven extremely well thanks to her bubble. plus she got heals and amazing sustain. Nami has ridiculously good synergy with ardent censer(again complimenting basic attacks champions) If you like mage supportz like i do, i wouldn't recommend zyra, rather brand. He is meta right now and he does a ton of damage and excells in teamfights thanks to Aoe oriented kit. It has very strong single target damage if you land e q w too You can get 40k+ damage with him in a game. He got a slow on his ult a hard cc on his q, and he's such a freakingly strong lane bully it's ridiculous.
lispaton (EUW)
: there's only 6, or in a cannon minion wave 7, minions in a laning phase minion wave
errrr what i meant is there's sometimes two waves together and yet the adc farms so little. don't nitpick lol..
FleaLess (EUNE)
: i got flamed by a cait that i stole her kills with my pyke ULT!! rofl
That one's a classic :P Btw, does the ult give you 300 gold upright if you don't have space in your inventory? (meaning you don't have to activate it to take the 300 gold)
Proppa (EUW)
: So, into champs with extreme gap closing, Master Yi, Jax etc, you are saying that my positioning (other than at Nexus) will have a chance? I'm not saying I tell people how to play, but if you want to be a Carry, then go to the Mid/Top/AD Lane, save the support role for players who actually want to support their team. Team comp plays such a huge part in this game, if you have 5 people trying to be the carry building damage, someone with decent AE damage with a Tank to engage will more than likely destroy taht comp. If you are that good of a carry, you would be playing a role where you can roam an impact every lane etc IMO.
Lux has a double snare, an amazing AOE shield and a slow. I don't understand what is missing from the champ to be qualified as a support champ for you? A 3-5 man shield can win you a teamfight alone, which is not hard to pull off. lux is a supportive champion with mid laner damage, it's the best of both worlds. And the support is the perfect champ to roam and impact every lane. A lot of times i gank mid and help my jungle invade with lux. support is more than just heals and shields. support is vision control and peeling. lux is SUPRERIOR to every traditional support in the game in peeling. Even while building full ap i run around setting up vision for my team and denying the enemy's vision with control wards and the oracle lens. in games i take seriously you can easily see me run 100/hour vision score, which is highly important.
: idk. i get a lot of hate too when i play lux support.
Proppa (EUW)
: Not just assassins, Garen, Darius, Jax, Jarvan, basically any bruiser who can gap close onto the ADC. A Nami bubble/Ult/Heal can save the squishy, or Lulu Poly, into shield + ult if needed with Q to snare. Braum can block any projectiles, stacked with his Q snare and passive..... Leona can Ult/E/Q to save ADC. I can see a huge difference in games, where I have a "support" support and not someone who is only focus'd on kills. Whilst it does work, it just depends on the synergy if you don't feel like you are "carrying" the game, it makes you question why your in that role. Also, not being funny but people like that Tryndamere, questioning why he couldn't Ult, when you stunned him..... so you aren't really playing against people with a good understanding of the game or mechanics. Now, I'm only Gold and play with a lot of trolls to, you can see how mechanics improve and the AP carries fall off IMO.
> [{quoted}](name=Proppa,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=EMoI3JNt,comment-id=00060000000000000000,timestamp=2018-09-30T15:19:26.096+0000) > > Not just assassins, Garen, Darius, Jax, Jarvan, basically any bruiser who can gap close onto the ADC. A Nami bubble/Ult/Heal can save the squishy, or Lulu Poly, into shield + ult if needed with Q to snare. Braum can block any projectiles, stacked with his Q snare and passive..... Leona can Ult/E/Q to save ADC. > You are correct! thus i don't only play mage supports. i am also a main nami with over 100k mastery and level 7. I definitely agree with you, those supports are fantastic! However, they just don't cut it if your team is not strong enough. That's why i very much like APC supports for this low elo because they add A LOT to the team, where it fails usually. > I can see a huge difference in games, where I have a "support" support and not someone who is only focus'd on kills. > When i have a competent adc, i usually go for nami, who is a traditional support because i feel i can count on the adc to output enough damage. if i bubble them and no body is following up on it, it loses its point. > Whilst it does work, it just depends on the synergy if you don't feel like you are "carrying" the game, it makes you question why your in that role. > > Also, not being funny but people like that Tryndamere, questioning why he couldn't Ult, when you stunned him..... so you aren't really playing against people with a good understanding of the game or mechanics. > Lol, that actually made me laugh so bad and i wanted to respond but i wanted to end that game already.. > Now, I'm only Gold and play with a lot of trolls to, you can see how mechanics improve and the AP carries fall off IMO. A lot of people say that low elo adcs are not worth supporting. so i opt for the carry role in bot lane. And i think that is fair. however, adcs don't understand that without me, doing all the stunning, snaring and slowing they wouldn't have gotten gold at all, but instead of saying "nice" and gladly taking that 150 gold, they flame out of pure greed..
Proppa (EUW)
: Now like your current game, the Ashe is too scared to farm because they focus him knowing they can survive your burst if they just dodge your combo, seems you are having a hard time landing it. So your ashe is falling behind, as he knows 1 hook and he is dead. So whilst you are doing good damage, you aren't doing enough to pressure the lane hard enough with the threat of Thresh's hooks........
Well see, as i said, i can only do 90% of the damage. i cannot 100-0 them with thresh's shield and the ashe has to put some effot too, which she didn't. she shouldn't have been afraid because if she positioned herself properly behind minions thresh's hook would not have hit. Yeah, i had a bad start, i missed alot of shots, although i played better mid game. we eventually won.
Proppa (EUW)
: You forget to mention that the Lucian in that game was a troll, diving across your base wall, toying around your Nexus, asking Lee Sin to dance etc..... Whilst I'm no Pro, I'm just saying how it feels when I play. I would take a Nami/Leona/Braum/Lulu over a damage dealing mage (whose damage can fall off mid-game, if they dont secure the gold). It's just hard to play with a "support" who isn't focus'd on protecting the AD, with all of the champions who can gap close and destroy ADC's, without protection they die fast.
Well, he didn't start out as a troll. He started out as a normal player, then got utterly crushed and flamed by his team and started trolling, nonetheless, it is a valid tactic. maybe not in all elos, but it a viable tactic. Btw, almost nothing can prevet an assassin from killing a squishy. maybe lulu ult. if the squishy missposition it is dead.
: First of all, muting is always an option. After that, kills distribution means that the one with the most kills (the support in this case), is the one who should decide on where and when he/she should exert pressure on the map. So yes flaming isn't necessary just because the support takes the kills, but taking them means he/she should have higher critical thinking than the ADC. Maybe the ADC didn't only flame you for taking his/her kills but he/she could also had flamed you for making wrong decisions.
Perhaps i made wrong decision(i am only human), but quite clearly the adc was really flaming only because i took the kills. i mean he didn't even mention anything other than "idiot kser" so...
Proppa (EUW)
: It depends, I main ADC the more gold I get, the faster I scale up. If you take all of the kills, it takes longer for me to scale up. Also, most of the Lux's I play with never save their abilities to protect the ADC if the jungler engages etc, nor do they build any "support" items which bolster the ADC. The difference between playing with a Nami/Leona/Braum/Lulu, who build items to bolster me, like Knights Vow, Ardent Senser, Redemption, aswell as offering solid protection. Every single Lux I've played with, as always been to focus'd on kills and never about protecting the ADC, rather than use the Q to peel for ADC, they use it to try and secure their kill. It's my playstyle, I play MUCH better with supports who are their to boost me, not saying Lux supports don't work, but for me I find it harder to play with champions like Lux as I have to change my playstyle to focus on my own protection, opposed to knowing I have a support who can lockdown, or heal me up etc. So I can play far more aggresively as I don't have to fear the jungler *as* much. Just the way I see it..... Also, your stats on Lux kind of show that it doesnt work apart from 1 game where you go 9/4/22, the others are 2/4/3, 7/7/9, 7/7/7, 4/6/4, 3/3/3, 2/6/8 (this game you won). So you are just showing that you are far to focused on trying to get the kill and have no thoughts about protection, or using your CC etc for counter ganks.
You just described every single mage support in the game. Yes, mage supports don't focus on protecting the adc(although lux got her w, which i utilize very well for the protection of both of us). they focus on punching the enemies in the face. Mage supports are strong right now for a reason. they provide the team with a lot of magic damage, while also doing everything a support needs to do, catch enemies with cc, set up vision and deny the vision for enemies. Another thing, you call those last few games my "stats" with lux. Just the fact that i didn't have a negative KDA on all those games is amazing because on those games my teams were absolutely catastrophic. At one of those games my entire team without exception had no less than 15 deaths to their name. Maybe next time look into stats more than KDA, and some people have some bad games too. The amount of games i carried into victory with mage supports are A lot. My last game i played brand, ended up 12/2/10 with 10k+ more damage than the entire team. Guess what? i did not protect my adc one bit, but i still crushed bot lane alone, and yes, my adc was flaming me for taking kills on the bot lane (despite the fact that when the adc was 1/4/2, i was 4/1/1, he has less assists than i have kills, thus he didn't even contribute to their death, but he still flamed me for it.) , and yes i won the game almost alone. Edit - i just won another brand game, two in a row, both of them got my level 6 mastery shard with an S score. Both me and my adc were extremely fed from the enemy bot laners and i did 90% of the damage on bot lane. my adc merely last shotted them. so yes, i don't need to protect them with mage supports, i need to harras my enemies
VIT Laati (EUNE)
: Luxanna has an AA passive. Xerath has an AA passive. Vel'Koz can keep up his passive stacks with AAs. Viktor has an AA amplifier. Orianna has an AA passive. Ziggs has an AA passive. Zoe has an AA passive. So yeah, it isn't uncommon for a long range mage to have an AA-based ability or passive.
Well, true, but some of the champs you mentioned aren't artillery mages... nonetheless you are right..
Rioter Comments
VIT Laati (EUNE)
: I honestly think I am doing the lane a favor if I get the kills with Supportsticks. ADCs tend to scale slower than an AP Carry. If I get an early lead with Fiddle, I can snowball the lane just with raw damage output. Nothing is better for your ADC than to have her freefarm while the enemy bot is at their fountain.
The main problem is that the low elo adcs don't even farm too well, so you might kill the enemy bot but your adc will get 2/10 of the cs in the wave so they GOTTA get fed off kills. which is pathetic, imo.
: Stopped reading at Lux Support, lmao.
Well too bad for you then! :D What's wrong with lux support?
Yellowrsh (EUW)
: Lol, sounds familiar. These people don't deserve to win when they flame like that. And I guess they don't understand that people who are flamed will play worse, cause they just don't care anymore.
and still i did my best. it's just that the 22/2 irelia was too strong for me to deal with... Ended up with most damage on the team.
Rioter Comments
: Playing Support For Autofilled ADC's
As a support main i second this post. Usually however, i try to play an apc support, such has morgana/lux/brand to carry bot lane and feed my adc(or myself). only when i have a potent adc i will play some more traditional supports like braum, nami, leona, because even if you manage to catch the enemy with a stun, snare or slow, my adc will simply not follow up with anything leaving me at 1vs2 situation with nothing to do but die. with lux and brand i can pretty much 2vs1 botlane because their early game damage is amazing. with morgana i just usually zone them out of all farm and exp... she's actually quite potent with her black shield. needless to say i run ignite on all apc supports. level 2 kills with lux are common. i also use the domination/precision tree with electrocute. increases lux's 100-0 potential at levels 2-5 amazingly.
VIT Laati (EUNE)
: D or F for Flash?
F for FLASH
Athlas (EUNE)
: To the toxic people that try to add people after game to flame some more
RÆKko (EUW)
: THE JHIN W ROOT HIT BOX NEEDS A FIX FOR REAL!! THIS IS SERIOUS
Never experienced this. Not while playing jhin, nor against him. Bring some evidence.
Rioter Comments
: Hm... build magic penetration, maybe? You know. These items that reduce Magic Resist... {{item:3165}} {{item:3020}} {{item:3135}}
i built all three of those items. it did not help much
Kalvix (EUW)
: It might also just be Yorick has become one of those champions you won't beat if they get red like Yi. Sadly for some reason, Riot decided the game needs champion where even if you don't do well if you get to end-game you solo carry the game (unless there's 1 on the other team), and when those champions get a lot of kills or CS early it just makes the more godly. Or it could just be you had a full team of AP and he built a lot of MR and nobody had penetration...
https://matchhistory.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/2046176724/226613568?tab=overview We also had lee sin and jax.
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Gabresol (EUW)
: To make a rating system that uses all the different stats that show your performance, riot would need to create an avarage for each champion for each position. Then after every game they could compare your stats to the avarage and estimate a value f LP gain or loss.
This already exists, lol! They even have a whole tab called stats under your profile. It appears not a lot of people are aware of it, but it shows how you perform in every single aspect the game.
: Why would you lose less LP if your stat-focused behavior contributed to losing the game?
In my eyes stat focused behavior is damaging turrets, damaging objectives, setting up vision, having a high kpr etc... All of these things are behaviors which are good. It means you are objective oriented, you are trying to win the game. You would not have high stats if you spent 70% of the game dead or just roamed around doing nothing contributive. By pushing objectives and contributing to the cause of victory you will naturally recieve high stats across the entire stats spectrum. A player who didn't contribute to the cause of winning simply couldn't get high stats, because he did nothing productive. If he gets high stats it means he had been productive and thus was pushing towards winning the game.
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: What part of my response suggests i didn't read your post? Tell me.
"Doing nothing of importance to maintain a nice looking kda" I literally said and i quote "KDA, kill participation, objective control, vision control, kill conversion, economy efficiency etc etc." Somehow you think i said the only important thing is kda. Objective control is not important? Vision control?... Literally a whole list of stuff and you totally ignored that entire list. Those are all things that good players do naturally in their gameplay as they reflect their actions in the match.
Arnoter (EUW)
: I never down- or upvote anything. --- You want to make the whole Ranked game based on KDA, do you really think thats a good thing? Its way too easy to get a lot of Kills with Assassins, its too easy to get a lot of Assists with Supports and you dont have to be in Fights, so you dont get any Deaths. And you get LP for that, even if you lose the Game? Thats way worse then ignoring a Problem, thats simply splitting People up to "I get all kills or I will flame"
> [{quoted}](name=Arnoter,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=FxV2Xecn,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-09-25T12:47:23.974+0000) > > You want to make the whole Ranked game based on KDA, do you really think thats a good thing? > That sentence just proved you did not read half my post by saying that the stats are solely based on KDA. Stats have 3 categories with like 6 subcategories each. literally one subcategory out of 24 is KDA, how does that make it based on KDA solely? You need to emphasis on every aspect of the game. simpy getting 20 kills in lane without doing anything else will not get you an S+, no way in hell. Also, i never said if you go 0/0/60 as a support and you lose you will gain LP. you will simply lose less.
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: Current score system decides only a few things, whatever you get a chest and for the mastery rank. So it doesn't really matter if it feels off, but people still complain if it is off. If the system was to decide you LP gains it would have to be near perfect and it's far from it. > And if this motivates people to start focusing on stuff that will improve their stats, that's great, because it has raw influence on the game. No, that's not great, it means doing nothing of importance to maintain a nice looking KDA, becoming a KDA warrior. Padding your stats doesn't win games, destroying enemy nexus is what does.
> [{quoted}](name=Enjutsu,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=FxV2Xecn,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-09-25T12:49:18.755+0000) > it means doing nothing of importance to maintain a nice looking KDA, becoming a KDA warrior. > Did you literally not read my entire post? Stats have 3 categories with like 6 subcategories each. literally one subcategory out of 24 is KDA, how does that make you a KDA warrior exactly? You need to emphasis on every aspect of the game. simpy getting 20 kills in lane without doing anything else will not get you an S+, no way in hell. What about objective control, kill conversion? provides nothing to win the game?
Arnoter (EUW)
: Just play Meta Champs until Gold if you are "The ONE Player" that loses because of the 4 Others, if you cant carry them. Dont play Katarina, she needs too much skill and is kinda dependent on Teamfights which often dont happen properly in LowElo. Stick to the easy Champs, like Lux, Ahri, Xerath, Brand, Viktor, Annie and this kind of Champs. When you reached Gold, stay there until next Year and hope that they make the Ranked System better.
I don't get why do you downvote my thread. ignoring the problem won't solve it. not for me and not for anyone else playing this game. this thread is exactly to make the ranked system better.
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: So it's about performance-based matchmaking. It's really hard to create a reliable performance-based matchmaking, league is a very complicated game and it's hard to understand what stats show skill. There are also other risks like forcing players to hunt for stats instead of thinking how to win the game.
Why is it difficult? you already got a ranking each final game ranging from D- to S+ even if someone tries really hard to all the kills, if he didn't do anything else than get a good KDA he wouldn't get a good score. And if this motivates people to start focusing on stuff that will improve their stats, that's great, because it has raw influence on the game. I've had games where i went 15/0 and got a+ because i did not ward enough nor did any objectives or took and turrets, it's just that simple. there is no way to trick that system, it's really good. you got 3 categories with a bunch of sub-categories of raw stats. you do an average of them, and you got your score. you can't buff your score too much even if you get S+ in one and then C on the other two, it'll be a bad average. You don't get anything if you hunt for stats and lose the game. you just lose lp all the same.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=JuiceBoxP,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=3da1kG79,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-09-24T21:32:03.886+0000) > > What am i supposed to do as katarina against vayne? E gunblade W R > w doesn't even land yet, vayne is out of the ult range hitting you with the stun throwing you out of Q range, auto attacking you repeatedly while stunned and laughs at your face for trying. where is the outplay to that? > > Assassins are very squishy and bursting them is very easy. especially when you got hard cc in your kit and an invisibility. Katarina is a foremost a team fight assassin, let's not forget that. And sure, if Vayne has her whole kit ready you can't just walk up on her. I also wouldn't pick Kata against a Vayne because she can interrupt your ult with a simple click. Doesn't mean you can't play against her because you still have your teammates that (ideally) set up the fight for you.
That is in theory, great. I just had a game, waited for the fight to start, people used their cooldowns, jumped in, instantaneously vayne disappeared, and no one found her, i kept on with my combo 4vs5, 3 seconds later she popped back infront of me, knocked me back from my daggers i was killed instantly. i looked at the replay to understand what the hell happened there, from the second i jumped in she tumbled away and run at full speed away so far, so fast that she left our vision range into fog of war and then popped back doing the same technique. it's just too much. Katarina's full combo takes like 5 seconds to execute. far too much to kill such mobile champions.
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