Kinshira (EUNE)
: he never said there are other messages that i was offensive lol. Do you understand greek? Or did you just translate it on google translate.
this is all he provided me with when referring to "my fault " on this matter.
: Is it better for an innocent man to suffer or the guilty one to get away? The never-ending question.
For riot, both. The innocent to suffer and the guilty to get away. They are pretty straight about this.
QancerClown (EUNE)
: ***
they do not, i asked for people to report someone for flaming, the guy was wishing cancer to 4 people in the team, everyone other than himself while afk. I got banned for it. And in riotsupport they defended him, saying i am just as bad for asking people to report him. Eventhough what i said didnt have a single curse word or anything that could be considered flame in the whole game's chat. They are actually terrible at their job. A 7-year old multi hundred euro account got lost for this. Let that sink in.
Kinshira (EUNE)
: he never said there are other messages that i was offensive lol. Do you understand greek? Or did you just translate it on google translate.
I have shown you everything he had against me, and you are still in denial. Thanks for agreeing with me mate. You are so buffled that i got banned for what i said that you are trying to find something that is actually toxic, when none exists. You know you are too far gone in the rabbit hole when even the full support response is not enough. Even if Riot came here and said, welp yeh we f-ed up here, he shouldnt have got banned for this, i am thinking that you would still try to defend why i should get banned. It is sad really
Kinshira (EUNE)
: he never said there are other messages that i was offensive lol. Do you understand greek? Or did you just translate it on google translate.
this is what he gave me mate, i dont have anything else.
: because more than just your friend was in the chat reading it just because your friend is ok with that sort of speech, it doesn't mean that the other 3 or 8 people are also ok with it. or if they aren't that they should deal with it anyway.
but you just said "in layman's terms, you can say whatever you like when you are with your friends and they have no issues with how you express yourself. but when you take these words outside of your circle of friends, you should be ready for the consequences." so if it is not directed at them, i shouldnt get that chat ban. Based on what you are saying, which is correct.
Èclair (EUNE)
: > **Εκτός από την επίκληση αναφοράς, γίνεσαι προσβλητικός απέναντι στον συμπαίκτη σου**. κατανοώ ότι μια τέτοια κατάσταση δημιουργεί νεύρα, ωστόσο, η επιλογή μιας τέτοιας αντιμετώπισης, με βρισιές και απειλές αναφορών το μόνο που καταφέρνει, είναι να χειροτερεύσει ακόμη περισσότερο την κατάσταση. _Apart from the reference, you are offensive to your teammate. [...]_ He literally said that you were offensive in other messages on top of the report calling he quoted.
he never said there are other messages that i was offensive lol. Do you understand greek? Or did you just translate it on google translate.
: what you're ignoring is this: >It is similar to how certain black people say n i g g a to each other **to each other** is the main point in layman's terms, you can say whatever you like when you are with your friends and they have no issues with how you express yourself. but when you take these words outside of your circle of friends, you should be ready for the consequences. i'm sure you know just how fond black people are of saying the n word to each other and how unfond they are of being adressed as such by people of other colors it's the same thing
yeah, exactly.. so how did i get banned (chat) for 5 games for saying that to a friend? LMAO. i am just showing you how broken this system is.
Kinshira (EUNE)
: You are the one that likes making examples from real life. Let me do one as well, want to see your response to this. Guy "A" is in the street, he gets attacked by someone, so he runs and asks for help while running, saying he is trying to kill/rob him or whatever. A person comes to help, but "A" keeps shouting help, so more people come. Then finally comes a police officer.. what you are telling me is that now the police officer has to move both the criminal and "A" to jail, because "A" asked for help, after getting help.
Here is what he said: Γεια σου και πάλι. Θα σου αναλύσω μερικά σημεία της συνομιλίας σου ώστε να ξεκαθαρίσουμε τι λαμβάνεται υπόψιν ως αρνητική συμπεριφορά: [10:21] Kinshira (Lee Sin): i dont want to mute anybody [11:17] Kinshira (Lee Sin): can we report soraka? [15:38] Kinshira (Lee Sin): you are just talking [15:48] Kinshira (Lee Sin): stop being a douche [15:49] Kinshira (Lee Sin): and play [16:46] [All] Kinshira (Lee Sin): report soraka for flaming [16:53] [All] Kinshira (Lee Sin): if you dont believe me ask ahri vayne and rumble [16:57] [All] Kinshira (Lee Sin): just spamming all the time the chat [17:03] [All] Kinshira (Lee Sin): doing nothing but typing [17:08] [All] Kinshira (Lee Sin): and tilting everyone for no reason Εδώ απευθύνεσαι σε συμπαίκτη, σχολιάζοντας τη συμπεριφορά του. Εφόσον κάποιος είναι ενοχλητικός, χρησιμοποιείς την επιλογή της σίγασης. Το να μπεις σε διαδικασία φραστικής αντιπαράθεσης δεν οδηγεί πουθενά. Εκτός από την επίκληση αναφοράς, γίνεσαι προσβλητικός απέναντι στον συμπαίκτη σου. κατανοώ ότι μια τέτοια κατάσταση δημιουργεί νεύρα, ωστόσο, η επιλογή μιας τέτοιας αντιμετώπισης, με βρισιές και απειλές αναφορών το μόνο που καταφέρνει, είναι να χειροτερεύσει ακόμη περισσότερο την κατάσταση. If you can't read any of it, i can translate. But if i didnt copy paste it, you would literally tell me "i dont trust you, i have to see the original text"
Èclair (EUNE)
: So do it then.
Here is what he said: Γεια σου και πάλι. Θα σου αναλύσω μερικά σημεία της συνομιλίας σου ώστε να ξεκαθαρίσουμε τι λαμβάνεται υπόψιν ως αρνητική συμπεριφορά: [10:21] Kinshira (Lee Sin): i dont want to mute anybody [11:17] Kinshira (Lee Sin): can we report soraka? [15:38] Kinshira (Lee Sin): you are just talking [15:48] Kinshira (Lee Sin): stop being a douche [15:49] Kinshira (Lee Sin): and play [16:46] [All] Kinshira (Lee Sin): report soraka for flaming [16:53] [All] Kinshira (Lee Sin): if you dont believe me ask ahri vayne and rumble [16:57] [All] Kinshira (Lee Sin): just spamming all the time the chat [17:03] [All] Kinshira (Lee Sin): doing nothing but typing [17:08] [All] Kinshira (Lee Sin): and tilting everyone for no reason Εδώ απευθύνεσαι σε συμπαίκτη, σχολιάζοντας τη συμπεριφορά του. Εφόσον κάποιος είναι ενοχλητικός, χρησιμοποιείς την επιλογή της σίγασης. Το να μπεις σε διαδικασία φραστικής αντιπαράθεσης δεν οδηγεί πουθενά. Εκτός από την επίκληση αναφοράς, γίνεσαι προσβλητικός απέναντι στον συμπαίκτη σου. κατανοώ ότι μια τέτοια κατάσταση δημιουργεί νεύρα, ωστόσο, η επιλογή μιας τέτοιας αντιμετώπισης, με βρισιές και απειλές αναφορών το μόνο που καταφέρνει, είναι να χειροτερεύσει ακόμη περισσότερο την κατάσταση. If you can't read any of it, i can translate. But if i didnt copy paste it, you would literally tell me "i dont trust you, i have to see the original text"
: i used to have greeks in my college class a few years back they used "malaka" on the same level as "f**k you" would be so yes. it actually is flame also fun fact: if a word is censored in game, it is also censored on the boards:P notice how "malaka" isn't censored! {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
It means jerk-off but we use it as slang to each other. The first time i got a chat restriction i was speaking to my friend(duo in the game) and said something similar to this "re malaka pame top" hey malaka lets go top. It is similar to how certain black people say n i g g a to each other and not consider it bad, as they just do it among themselves. Eventhough it is such a terrible word in comparison to malaka. By the way, this isnt my opinion this is what it literally means, it is fact.
Èclair (EUNE)
: No, I don't know what he said. I secpulate that you either misinterpreted him or he's just wrong. System doesn't just trigger based on few of your sentence in chat logs, it evaluates the whole thing. Calling somebody a douche once and asking twice for reports wouldn't trigger suspension even if your account was already banned for two weeks. You had to display other negative behaviour, even if it was just few of snarky comments towards your teammate's KDA. Show us the entirety of your chat logs then we'll have better understanding of your case.
This is what he handpicked of what he as the "professional flame inspector" thought got me banned. I already told you, i can put the whole response out. Not just the chat log. His full detailed reply.
: because "report" is not on the same level as racism, homophoby and suicide suggestions, which are what the censorship is used for it's still toxic tho >Damn. That must hurt. yes your logical falacies hurt my brain every time i read them
and the word "malaka" is not flame. Yet riot made it in ***.
Kinshira (EUNE)
: You are the one that likes making examples from real life. Let me do one as well, want to see your response to this. Guy "A" is in the street, he gets attacked by someone, so he runs and asks for help while running, saying he is trying to kill/rob him or whatever. A person comes to help, but "A" keeps shouting help, so more people come. Then finally comes a police officer.. what you are telling me is that now the police officer has to move both the criminal and "A" to jail, because "A" asked for help, after getting help.
Why do you not respond to what i have said 3 times now, i said .. do you want me to post the full details he gave along with the chat log? You keep avoiding this
Èclair (EUNE)
: No, the person in Customer Support highlighted certain part of your chat logs to point out one particular problem with your beaviour. That doesn't mean rest of your chat logs were a-okay. If your logs are filled with negative attitude then you would have to point out 60% of it. It's just your behaviour as a whole that got you banned, not this selected part. This is how instant feedback system works.
So you know what he said, and i dont know what he said, even though he responded to me. Ok. If you want me to post what HE said along with this chat log.. which he said was THE REASON i got banned, i can do that.
: > Funny thing how it is not in asteriscs. the asterix censorship is reserved for slurs. but you don't need slurs to be toxic >Funny how riot loves actual flamers, if they did, you wouldn't be banned right now your logic is as flawless as it was yesterday when your first post happened
If saying report is flame, why does it not have **? Damn. That must hurt.
Kinshira (EUNE)
: You are the one that likes making examples from real life. Let me do one as well, want to see your response to this. Guy "A" is in the street, he gets attacked by someone, so he runs and asks for help while running, saying he is trying to kill/rob him or whatever. A person comes to help, but "A" keeps shouting help, so more people come. Then finally comes a police officer.. what you are telling me is that now the police officer has to move both the criminal and "A" to jail, because "A" asked for help, after getting help.
You are comparing me to a third-wave feminist that was triggered by a gay man being in her school. Right. I think we are done here
Izec (EUNE)
: %%% is "Kill your self". He said that like 4 times. I thought it is the most heavy word you can write in this game.
apparently the heaviest word you can write in this game is "report". Funny thing how it is not in asteriscs. As someone was wishing cancer on me, all i said was report him for flaming, and i got banned, he didnt. Funny how riot loves actual flamers, they make sure they protect whoever opposes them.
Kinshira (EUNE)
: You are the one that likes making examples from real life. Let me do one as well, want to see your response to this. Guy "A" is in the street, he gets attacked by someone, so he runs and asks for help while running, saying he is trying to kill/rob him or whatever. A person comes to help, but "A" keeps shouting help, so more people come. Then finally comes a police officer.. what you are telling me is that now the police officer has to move both the criminal and "A" to jail, because "A" asked for help, after getting help.
All i did was respond to him, and respond gracefully, i never flamed once etc. Also, i asked you if I put the rioter's response, is that okay? I can put here what he said along with the chat log he gave me.
: No one's defending the other persons actions. Every post here is critiquing yours. Literally, no ones mentioned it because it doesn't excuse you breaking the rules.
You are the one that likes making examples from real life. Let me do one as well, want to see your response to this. Guy "A" is in the street, he gets attacked by someone, so he runs and asks for help while running, saying he is trying to kill/rob him or whatever. A person comes to help, but "A" keeps shouting help, so more people come. Then finally comes a police officer.. what you are telling me is that now the police officer has to move both the criminal and "A" to jail, because "A" asked for help, after getting help.
Mcgalakar (EUNE)
: I will write what I wrote on your last topic: >Douche: The second stage of being a %%%% between asshole and jerk (Urban Dictionary). I think that this is in fact a toxic behaviour. Also nice, only 10 sentences and not even one of them was positive. After having a 14-days ban previously, this is enough to get banned. Why are you surprised? They stated that 14-days ban is your last chance.
Nice, you just defended a person who wishes people to die of a terrible disease. You must be proud of yourself!
JustClone (EUNE)
: > Who are they protecting by banning me? Short answer: ME and others like ME. > What did i do that would cause problems You were toxic. > who is this protecting? People that curse? Again: ME, others like ME. And yes, even people that curse. (People that are toxic are also protected, so if you flame toxic people, you will get punished as well) > That is where you fail to see my point. What point? That they should not ban you for being toxic?
Saying report to someone who wishes cancer.. is toxic.. right. At that point, if saying report is toxic, why not make it full ->>> ****** ? I will tell you why, because it is not toxic.
Kinshira (EUNE)
: it is toxic though, based on your logic. Because i am adressing a bad play he did, thus i am toxic towards him. Right? I am negative in the process
You should change your name to The Contradictory Reaper .. or The Dream of Double Standards Reaper. Seriously mate.
: >and i say this "Well that wasn't a good call" is this flame? no. because you aren't atacking anyone with that statement
it is toxic though, based on your logic. Because i am adressing a bad play he did, thus i am toxic towards him. Right? I am negative in the process
Kinshira (EUNE)
: I've openly said multiple times I don't agree with you because you're not providing the full information, and I'm not going to agree until I have the whole picture. so if this is the full details, you agree. That is what you are saying here. And it is the full details they gave me. So there is that. You might need to take some English lessons mate.
is it okay if i post what the rioter said? If it is okay to post it here i will. Just tell me if it is "acceptable" to show a private support.riot conversation here.
: no. what he is saying is that your story and the chatlog your provided clash violently with each other. You, my friend, have serious selective reading issues!
: What? Where the hell did you draw that conclusion? I've edited my first line for context adding the "I don't agree", however, that part should have been indicative in the following text. I've openly said multiple times I don't agree with you because you're not providing the full information, and I'm not going to agree until I have the whole picture. Literally. I've said that multiple times. For someone who's telling other people "they're not reading the full text" and "you're missing the point".... {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
I've openly said multiple times I don't agree with you because you're not providing the full information, and I'm not going to agree until I have the whole picture. so if this is the full details, you agree. That is what you are saying here. And it is the full details they gave me. So there is that. You might need to take some English lessons mate.
: it's a simple to follow rule of thumb: if you are atacking the person you are adressing then you are **flaming**. Toxicity can exist just fine without the use of slurs and/or...erm... colorful adjectives {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
Not really, if you do a bad play on the game and i say this "Well that wasn't a good call" is this flame? Flame is flame. reporting someone for wishing death to people isnt. Simply put, if he didnt wish me to die in the game, I would have never said report him for it, i found it right to make sure everyone knows this piece of shit loses his account. But riot has other plans apparently, lets keep that guy in the game and make sure the one that says report loses it.
: No I don't agree. Because what you are claiming is not likely what happened. At this stage I'm inclined to believe you did something to deserve the ban, but you're deliberately obscuring the whole picture, and asking me to make a judgement off the specific pieces you've picked out - which of course you wouldn't be including anything incriminating. That's the fun of posting edited logs.
So you do agree to me, your first line indicates that from what i TYPED if this is the 100% true chat log -riotsupport selected- text.. then i shouldnt get banned. Thnx . Because it really is the full chat he gave me.
: >Ofc this wasnt the full chat log, he just pointed the "flame" parts. This was what HE found as "the reason for the ban" it sounds to me like your issue with the judgement is that the rioter ignored the parts of the chat were you were decent. (if any) is this the case?
He found this to be the most flamey part of my text. He kept saying that this was the reason i got banned. While i did reply to him that if this is why i got banned, i shouldnt .. as this is not flame of any kind.
: Typically you receive an email at the time of ban as well, which indicates ALL the games, as well as when you log into the client. But the point is you painted a very different story to what the edited chat logs paint. You said you were banned for a specific line that doesn't even appear in the later ~~posted~~ edited logs. It makes the whole scenario very difficult to believe.
So you do agree that from what I AM SAYING, i shouldnt get banned. And there has to be more. Right?
: the thing about asking for reports is that, by itself, it is not serious enough for a punishment. however in your case, you've been previously warned that your behaviour is not ok and reached a point where asking for reports is a relevant offence >people are asking for reports in the masses what you are flatout ignoring is that not everyone has the same punishment history. some people have a clean slate and others just came out of a 2 week ban. while their offences are similar, their respective punishments won't be the same due to the different histories of wrong doings
How can any human being know that asking for someone who wishes cancer to people is considered flaming? Now if i said "hey motherf*cker catch this report, serves you right f*ckin dumbass*. I could see your point there, but when i am respectful saying "report him for flaming", with no actual cursing or flame, i fail to see what you are saying my friend.
: I trust them on the 15% notification yes, because it's usually reflected on when I keep tabs on the most abhorrent people I report and watch them not play games for an extended period of time. It's not me not trusting on what they find offensive, it's me distrusting you and not believing you're posting the full details. There's a distinct difference.
So, let me take get this straight. You agree to me that from what I've shown, i shouldnt get banned. Because you keep saying that i am not putting the full details, implying that with what you have it is unreasonable that i got banned, so there has to be more. Right?
JustClone (EUNE)
: Do NOT look what other people do, and make conclusions about what you should do. Those guys will most likely get banned soon (if not already). When you see such cases, just report after the game. If you find it too disturbing to play, use the mute option. (Different people have different tolerance and react differently ...) And, I have wrote this to you in your last thread but: DO NOT ASK FOR REPORTS. One report and Nine reports is EXACTLY the same thing.
Lets get back to the problem here, my point is : Who are they protecting by banning me? What did i do that would cause problems, other than banning someone who did this? Who , that shouldnt get banned, does .. with me saying this? If you ban someone for chat-related reasons then it is to protect people from flame etc.. who is this protecting? People that curse? That is where you fail to see my point.
: Because it's incredibly unlikely that was the sole reason you got the ban. Posting the FULL logs from all THREE games will help us point out as to why you received a ban, rather than posting edited logs from one game.
but this is what THEY did find offensive, you trust them on the 15% thing and you dont trust them on what THEY find offensive? They did say that this was literally the reason i got banned..
: No, they never leave any portion out with the logs. They post the whole thing, or there'd be no point in saying "this is why you got banned" if they don't show it. Look at the countless examples of other logs posted in other "I was banned" threads. Much worse things are said in those that you're claiming you did, yet Riot didn't remove that from their logs when it was sent to them.
I asked them "what did i say that got me banned", he said "this" *puts this chat log* then he went on to explain. Or at least try to. Ofc this wasnt the full chat log, he just pointed the "flame" parts. This was what HE found as "the reason for the ban"
: > [{quoted}](name=Kinshira,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=QKfbOOcn,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-20T07:55:59.999+0000) > > yes, that is because this was what they flagged. Might have been from all 3 games too, i just copy pasted it from the support.riot ticket. This was what they wrote, along with an explanation of why this is flaming and offensive. They probably left the cancer part out just so they dont look bad, no matter how many times i replied with it as being the reason for my "report" statement. So if you are gonna judge anyone about being picky, it is riot , as this was directly from them. So you say they banned you for "please report said person because he wishes cancer to people" only, even tho the support itself did not show you that in the chatlogs. Whatever.
They banned me for the report part, my reason for reporting was that he was wishing death to people (like from 5minutes on if i remember, while afk too). The support team said that him doing that makes him the same as you, because you said report. You are just as bad. How can you people think this is right? I am just as bad for "without flaming or cursing or responding with violence like he did" i simply said " report him for flaming" and i am just as bad? Really? Who am i hurting exactly? The one that should be banned anyway?
: It does. It's so people don't get spammed with notifications if you have a bad run of games. >This is just a way for them to protect their bad report system, yeah guys it is 15% of the time.. i call bs. It's posted in their player dev blogs. It's confirmed by Rioters. It's literally a widely known fact that people face restrictions without the reporter being notified. Hell I had someone add me 2 weeks after a game to flame me for "getting them banned" when I hadn't received a notification for it at the time that I recall (reported him again, good times xD). You're just putting your hands over your ears screaming "I don't agree so it can't be right", instead of looking at something that's literally already been confirmed as how it works. What's next? "fake news"?
You are missing the point, look my board topic again, read the full text.
: >This was what they wrote, along with an explanation of why this is flaming and offensive. so they explained why it was wrong and yet you still think they're wrong you have some serious issues....
the explanation was : you said report so you are at fault too. Now this hasnt aged as well in 2018, as i am playing a game and people are asking for reports in the masses, yet they dont get banned. If they did, they wouldnt have that acc to begin with. Because it really seems like they do it every game.
: It definitely is, I strongly doubt that those are the only words of text said throughout the whole game. There's no pre-game or post-game chat included either.
yes, that is because this was what they flagged. Might have been from all 3 games too, i just copy pasted it from the support.riot ticket. This was what they wrote, along with an explanation of why this is flaming and offensive. They probably left the cancer part out just so they dont look bad, no matter how many times i replied with it as being the reason for my "report" statement. So if you are gonna judge anyone about being picky, it is riot , as this was directly from them.
: >Now.. he never got banend because i never got a notification for it I've explained this to you multiple times already in your other thread. You only get notifications for this about 10-15% of the time at most. The vast majority of the time you won't receive a notification. You have no idea if they've received a punishment or not.
That doesnt make sense, then why give notifications at all? This is just a way for them to protect their bad report system, yeah guys it is 15% of the time.. i call bs.
: > [{quoted}](name=The Cream Reaper,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=QKfbOOcn,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-06-20T07:36:16.908+0000) > > OP claims this is all there was. it looks edited to me I hope it is, because where the hell is "please report said person because he wishes cancer to people"?
there were 3 games, this was 1 of them. Keep in mind this was like 1 year ago, also this wasnt my full chat, it is the chat log they found offensive.
Rioter Comments
: random chance
you all still refuse to comment on the chat log, even though you went crazy over me posting it.
: As previously explained to you, these notices only come up in 10-15% of cases at most. You won't get a notice most of the time.
And what judges if you get a notice or not?
: Because the full context is irrelevant. You either broke the rules or you didnt. We need to see _**your**_ logs to see if _**you**_ broke the rules or not. You get these when you receive a ban.
Whats up with you people, you were raving about the chat log, now you have it yet you are not responding.
Febos (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Kinshira,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=pK0i6Qmz,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-18T11:21:01.473+0000) > > I have been playing for 7 years and didnt get restricted once, i got restricted for hte first time late 2016 and then got banned very early 2017. Yeah, so? That just means your behaviour changed for the worst. The Tribunal has been replaced a long time ago. *** > [{quoted}](name=Kinshira,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=pK0i6Qmz,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-18T11:21:01.473+0000) > > They changed their shitty algorythm Technically speaking, this "algorythm" is an ever changing and improving system. It uses machine learning and it's always improving. So no, they didn't change their "algorythm". *** > [{quoted}](name=Kinshira,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=pK0i6Qmz,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-18T11:21:01.473+0000) > > and saying report is now considered flame Always has been. Asking for reports is considered unsportsmanlike behaviour. Besides, only 1 report is needed to trigger the system, so there's no point in asking everyone else to report your target. Your input is enough. *** > [{quoted}](name=Kinshira,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=pK0i6Qmz,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-18T11:21:01.473+0000) > > They will keep saying 1 report is enough but that is 100% false. Right... Are you the one that coded the system? I'd rather believe the dude responsible for the system we have now. If he says "1 report is enough" then 1 report is enough. He doesn't have a reason to lie about that. *** > [{quoted}](name=Kinshira,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=pK0i6Qmz,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-18T11:21:01.473+0000) > > i pressed the button myself, he was wishing people cancer and he never got punished for it. Explain that. How do you know he wasn't punished? Did you ask him?
I didnt get a notice saying it
: Context doesnt matter.
I released the chat log, check it out. go ahead.
: > [{quoted}](name=Kinshira,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=pK0i6Qmz,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-06-18T11:14:40.443+0000) > > Spreading negativity toward someone who is wishing cancer? If you call the police on a criminal is that considered negative? But you didn't call the "police". Instead you said to the "criminal" that you are going to call the "police", which in return might make the "criminal" even more aggressive and hostile towards you. So that doesn't sound like a good idea. Nevertheless copy and post your entire chatlogs if you want your case discussed in a meaningful way. Until then I assume that you've been negative, doesn't matter if you were a victim or not, and the ban is justified.
I did put it out, check the chat.
: Because the full context is irrelevant. You either broke the rules or you didnt. We need to see _**your**_ logs to see if _**you**_ broke the rules or not. You get these when you receive a ban.
You have my chatlog, tell me what you think.
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