Rïvèn (EUW)
: ranked isnt pure luck, yes your botlane may feed, i now that feel trust me but if you are playing toplane and if you are stomping everygame you will climb. you are the only consistend factor in your ranked games. i dont know what elo you are but playing carry champs may make it easier. if you play like kennen toplane you can just oneshot the enemy adc if you say ur are stomping your lane, no matter how fed the enemy adc is. C A N T W I N E M ALL
> [{quoted}](name=Nice Kog She Zed,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=1EhmYorH,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-10-25T18:56:14.910+0000) > > ranked isnt pure luck, yes your botlane may feed, i now that feel trust me but if you are playing toplane and if you are stomping everygame you will climb. > you are the only consistend factor in your ranked games. > i dont know what elo you are but playing carry champs may make it easier. if you play like kennen toplane you can just oneshot the enemy adc if you say ur are stomping your lane, no matter how fed the enemy adc is. > > C A N T W I N E M ALL Ranked in EVERY TEAM GAME is ~~rigged~~ pure luck. In Dota, in CS:GO, in Overwatch. You are the only constant, yes and the only constant has only a 10% influence on the outcome of the match. Everything else is up to complete strangers who on average, are hellbent on fucking YOU over.
: sry that :33
> [{quoted}](name=GG Still King,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=k4EHE5nW,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-10-25T21:55:47.367+0000) > > sry that :33 {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
Rioter Comments
: is shaco rip in spaghetti with the new rework?
I sure fucking hope. Shaco is almost as toxic as Teemo.
LEΟN (EUNE)
: Is he sleeping or suffering to death? >:-D
> [{quoted}](name=Leonheart,realm=EUNE,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=vedxjAIb,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-10-25T18:03:48.725+0000) > > Is he sleeping or suffering to death? >:-D I hope he is choking on his own vomit, exactly what Teemo deserves.
Proppa (EUNE)
: 0/4/0 with ZZ'Rot ? 1/6/1 Yorick? Your results are far from perfect.....
> [{quoted}](name=Proppa,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=1EhmYorH,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-10-25T18:54:40.253+0000) > > 0/4/0 with ZZ'Rot ? > 1/6/1 Yorick? > > Your results are far from perfect..... I will say right now that a lot of my ranked games and a big part of the reason why I am Silver 4 is because I played on tilt and picked stupid shit. The games where I was actually trying and in a good mood I was usually playing Mantheon or Leona Support.
: This exactly is the reason why I climbed playing Botlane (ADC, Support) only. Botlane is too important to leave it in the hands of Randooms (Random players + Doom, cuz they are doom for your own team) as it involves 4 players and main roam plays are made around bot. Early perma-buffs can be gained by taking dragons and your main late-game damage source sits here. Win botlane and you basically win game.
> [{quoted}](name=Stahlvormund,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=1EhmYorH,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-10-25T18:49:16.640+0000) > > This exactly is the reason why I climbed playing Botlane (ADC, Support) only. > Botlane is too important to leave it in the hands of Randooms (Random players + Doom, cuz they are doom for your own team) as it involves 4 players and main roam plays are made around bot. Early perma-buffs can be gained by taking dragons and your main late-game damage sorce sits here. > Win botlane and you basically win game. Yeah, I noticed. I have the absolutely highest winrate playing support just because I can force the boosted animal that I get 50% of the time instead of an ADC to actually do work by the power of hard engage.
Father Tios (EUNE)
: Your bot will lose in about 50% of your games, unless you are somehow negatively affecting them. (Same for all the other roles you're not playing)
> [{quoted}](name=Father Tios,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=1EhmYorH,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-10-25T18:40:18.805+0000) > > Your bot will lose in about 50% of your games, unless you are somehow negatively affecting them. (Same for all the other roles you're not playing) Ranked is pure luck, I figured.
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
: Vayne has always been said to have a very weak lane phase although this season I think she's actually strong, mainly due to how strong some of the supports are in the game and the fact she seems to be dealing a huge amount more damage especially in the early game. Q - Shivv, sheen poke is crazy strong at the moment. Always late game with a build like this {{item:3087}} {{item:3078}} {{item:3031}} {{item:3006}} {{item:3046}} {{item:3153}} she can literally one shot the enemy carry with Q - Sheen Proc - Shivv - Crit.
> [{quoted}](name=Wayne Pooneyy,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=vkvYA9WT,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2016-10-20T23:24:21.323+0000) > > Vayne has always been said to have a very weak lane phase although this season I think she's actually strong, mainly due to how strong some of the supports are in the game and the fact she seems to be dealing a huge amount more damage especially in the early game. > > Q - Shivv, sheen poke is crazy strong at the moment. Always late game with a build like this {{item:3087}} {{item:3078}} {{item:3031}} {{item:3006}} {{item:3046}} {{item:3153}} she can literally one shot the enemy carry with Q - Sheen Proc - Shivv - Crit. I suppose this is not as much a Vayne issue as it is an issue with every late-game carry, Twitch is an absolute nightmare.
Enlight13 (EUW)
: #GOTREKT
> [{quoted}](name=Enlight13,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=vkvYA9WT,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2016-10-20T19:54:16.331+0000) > > #GOTREKT Not even close buddy, I play top.
: You're not the Sejuani I rekt a few games ago on vayne are you? lol
> [{quoted}](name=Chrissy Älskling,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=vkvYA9WT,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2016-10-20T16:35:13.629+0000) > > You're not the Sejuani I rekt a few games ago on vayne are you? lol I do not even have any games on sejuani.
D4RKEVA (EUW)
: Dota balanced? Haha there are characters there with 70% winrate sometimes ... OVER MONTHS Also there are some rly strong picks but there is no pick which is actually making the game itself hard af, its teamcombos that do that.
> [{quoted}](name=D4RKEVA,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=vkvYA9WT,comment-id=0000000000010000000000010000,timestamp=2016-10-20T15:26:19.657+0000) > > Dota balanced? Haha there are characters there with 70% winrate sometimes ... OVER MONTHS > > > Also there are some rly strong picks but there is no pick which is actually making the game itself hard af, its teamcombos that do that. Who might that be? Ursa? That is because people are retards and never buy scepter, or force staff, or sheepstick, and never kite. Riki? That is because people are retards and never buy blues and dust. Everything in dota has a REAL counter. Not the "counters" that riot makes, you can win dota matches just off picking the right hero and right items. There are heroes that counter entire classes of heroes. Dota is entirely focused on countering what the enemy does, instead of "Muh flashy lcs big plays". And it shows, the competitive is actually nuanced and entertaining to watch instead of farming for 20 minutes, one teamfight, and push to end.
D4RKEVA (EUW)
: high bronzies are still in the worst 30% of the game they still suck at gameknowledge all the time(sometimes they know a little stuff) and they suck at their champions too and lack basic mechanics such as stutter stepping and such And no plat back then was just "different" not actually worse... also stop ranting about the game and play dota if its so "perfectly balanced"
> [{quoted}](name=D4RKEVA,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=vkvYA9WT,comment-id=0000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-20T15:28:19.660+0000) > > high bronzies are still in the worst 30% of the game > > they still suck at gameknowledge all the time(sometimes they know a little stuff) and they suck at their champions too and lack basic mechanics such as stutter stepping and such > > > And no > > plat back then was just "different" not actually worse... > > > also stop ranting about the game and play dota if its so "perfectly balanced" I would if I could but the client hates my hardware. The moment I can play Dota with perfect performance I will harass the fuck out of riot support and get my account deleted so I can leave this piece of shit game behind.
kurnubego (EUNE)
: Still, you have more chances at winning the game when opponents have vayne, than Jinx, Jihn or MF. Maybe you just get annoyed because of "outplays" are more self evident when vayne does some nasty mechanics. But it's not the outplays which wins you games so it's not a big worry really. Anyhow smart ADC >>> high mechanical idiots. And playing vayne due to current meta is just not being smart. My point being, that you're complaining is created by cognitive bias. You just get annoyed by vayne more, but fail to recognize that it's not an impactful pick. You'll notice that one fail gank when she condemns or outplays someone 1v1, but fail to notice the lack of damage done in teamfight. Same way people see Zed, another weak, unimpactful pick through the course of the game despite a few shiny moments. We are talking about ranked here right? In normals you may end up with some high elo smurf who picks to stomp everyone. Because his pick high elo is not really viable.
> [{quoted}](name=kurnubego,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=vkvYA9WT,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2016-10-20T13:07:56.329+0000) > > Still, you have more chances at winning the game when opponents have vayne, than Jinx, Jihn or MF. Maybe you just get annoyed because of "outplays" are more self evident when vayne does some nasty mechanics. But it's not the outplays which wins you games so it's not a big worry really. > > Anyhow smart ADC >>> high mechanical idiots. And playing vayne due to current meta is just not being smart. > > My point being, that you're complaining is created by cognitive bias. You just get annoyed by vayne more, but fail to recognize that it's not an impactful pick. You'll notice that one fail gank when she condemns or outplays someone 1v1, but fail to notice the lack of damage done in teamfight. Same way people see Zed, another weak, unimpactful pick through the course of the game despite a few shiny moments. > > We are talking about ranked here right? In normals you may end up with some high elo smurf who picks to stomp everyone. Because his pick high elo is not really viable. Speaking of smurfs, they are one of the many reasons ranked is a joke right now. So many smurfs purposely losing games to derank or shitstomping that it might as well not count. The subhumans that smurf deserve to die in a fucking {{summoner:14}}.
kurnubego (EUNE)
: She's garbage in current meta, no matter the build. Due to team-fighting focus. Not to say that champion is underpowered, simply her kit has no uses due to currently common circumstances in each game. And overall statistics of champion.gg and similar sites should be taken with a big spoon of salt. Vayne is one of the champions who has a big crowd of one-tricks. Now you look at something like MF or Jinx (ADC's who are great at teamfights and haven't received any nerfs recently) the difference is huge. This might change after assassin re-work. If people will start playing assassins more and game shifts more towards pick oriented meta with bruisers / tanks to counter them. When we can hope to see Vayne to rise to power. But that's just me doing guesswork. Currently she's at very weak spot compared to other ADC's. Yes she's very strong at 1v1. But why would you ever want to fight her 1v1 to begin with? Vayne split pushes? Obliterate her team. And what she gonna do? Nothing.
> [{quoted}](name=kurnubego,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=vkvYA9WT,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-10-20T12:35:10.626+0000) > > She's garbage in current meta, no matter the build. Due to team-fighting focus. Not to say that champion is underpowered, simply her kit has no uses due to currently common circumstances in each game. > > And overall statistics of champion.gg and similar sites should be taken with a big spoon of salt. Vayne is one of the champions who has a big crowd of one-tricks. > > Now you look at something like MF or Jinx (ADC's who are great at teamfights and haven't received any nerfs recently) the difference is huge. > > This might change after assassin re-work. If people will start playing assassins more and game shifts more towards pick oriented meta with bruisers / tanks to counter them. When we can hope to see Vayne to rise to power. But that's just me doing guesswork. > > Currently she's at very weak spot compared to other ADC's. Yes she's very strong at 1v1. But why would you ever want to fight her 1v1 to begin with? Vayne split pushes? Obliterate her team. And what she gonna do? Nothing. I do not want to 1v1 her. The problem is that the four retards on my team do. EVERY. TIME.
D4RKEVA (EUW)
: Thing is the game is balanced around higher elos Also a usual gold/silver/bronze vayne sucks hardcore and all you need is some aoe dmg and pointclick cc and she is 100% useless also any good adc will buy pinks early game anyway and mid game if possible(and vs vayne always in mid game)
> [{quoted}](name=D4RKEVA,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=vkvYA9WT,comment-id=00000000000100000000,timestamp=2016-10-20T11:29:21.320+0000) > > Thing is the game is balanced around higher elos > > Also a usual gold/silver/bronze vayne sucks hardcore and all you need is some aoe dmg and pointclick cc and she is 100% useless > > > also any good adc will buy pinks early game anyway and mid game if possible(and vs vayne always in mid game) This is not an issue in itself. The issue is that the game is balanced so that there is a very specific subset of champions that dominate the game at any given point while the rest is varying degrees of inferior. Not to mention, there is an incredible number of champions which are either a pain to deal with or are so blatantly overtuned that you might as well just give up because playing against them rigs the game against you. Too many must bans, not enough bans. In a properly balanced game, there is no particular character that you want to ban more than any oth- Oh, sorry. I almost mentioned dota.
: Caitlyn lacks in utility? Ahahahaha. What a troll. She has a repositioning tool that combines utility, CC and burst dps into one skill. Her passive is her 'steroid' tool. Meanwhile Vayne gets MERCILESSLY bullied all lane phase, is countered by a 75 g -pink ward, and requires a HUGE AMOUNT of gold before bordering being as useful as the other ADCs who are in the meta. I have played against a diamond 1 Caitlyn main and it's disgusting to look at. Meanwhile, every Vayne player is absolutely useless on their without scripts or receiving A LOT of help from her team beforehand. And since soloQ is NOT A team -based game mode, Vayne is utterly miserable compared to other carries.
> [{quoted}](name=EasternBladeStar,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=vkvYA9WT,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2016-10-20T11:48:17.139+0000) > > Caitlyn lacks in utility? Ahahahaha. What a troll. She has a repositioning tool that combines utility, CC and burst dps into one skill. Her passive is her 'steroid' tool. > > Meanwhile Vayne gets MERCILESSLY bullied all lane phase, is countered by a 75 g -pink ward, and requires a HUGE AMOUNT of gold before bordering being as useful as the other ADCs who are in the meta. > > I have played against a diamond 1 Caitlyn main and it's disgusting to look at. Meanwhile, every Vayne player is absolutely useless on their without scripts or receiving A LOT of help from her team beforehand. And since soloQ is NOT A team -based game mode, Vayne is utterly miserable compared to other carries. Shit I forgot that her fucking web is bullshit. Have not played against a Cait in a while.
D4RKEVA (EUW)
: Thing is the game is balanced around higher elos Also a usual gold/silver/bronze vayne sucks hardcore and all you need is some aoe dmg and pointclick cc and she is 100% useless also any good adc will buy pinks early game anyway and mid game if possible(and vs vayne always in mid game)
> [{quoted}](name=D4RKEVA,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=vkvYA9WT,comment-id=00000000000100000000,timestamp=2016-10-20T11:29:21.320+0000) > > Thing is the game is balanced around higher elos > > Also a usual gold/silver/bronze vayne sucks hardcore and all you need is some aoe dmg and pointclick cc and she is 100% useless > > > also any good adc will buy pinks early game anyway and mid game if possible(and vs vayne always in mid game) ...Not really. In the low elos people often make stupid decisions and lack map awareness, but mechanics are something not even high bronzies have an issue with. You seem to forget that what is today Bronze would have been Platinum in season 2.
Y P (EUW)
: Adcs csnt buy pinks?
> [{quoted}](name=Spilling Wards,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=vkvYA9WT,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2016-10-20T11:02:49.359+0000) > > Adcs csnt buy pinks? Not the delusional tards that I get for ADCs.
: Vayne's so easy to lane against, and the only way she's getting fed is by stealing her allies' kills, honestly. Meanwhile Caitlyn zones you, pokes you, zones you some more and pushes to your tower while denying minions with her true damage -inducing traps. Oh, you tried to close the gap on her? E away and clock the enemy hit for 1/3 of their HP afterwards. You seriously complaining about VAYNE here?
> [{quoted}](name=EasternBladeStar,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=vkvYA9WT,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-10-20T10:41:06.657+0000) > > Vayne's so easy to lane against, and the only way she's getting fed is by stealing her allies' kills, honestly. > > Meanwhile Caitlyn zones you, pokes you, zones you some more and pushes to your tower while denying minions with her true damage -inducing traps. Oh, you tried to close the gap on her? E away and clock the enemy hit for 1/3 of their HP afterwards. > > You seriously complaining about VAYNE here? Caitlyn is allowed to do the damage she does because she lacks the utility or repositioning+stealth+attackspeed-based maxhp true damage. And yes, I am. I will never not complain about vayne until she gets ran into the pavement, and then I will complain that she can deal damage with her autoattacks.
: Given similar Skill, a {{champion:119}} will rape a Vayne in lane and with an item ahead, 2-shot her (thanks to {{item:2043}} ).
> [{quoted}](name=Stahlvormund,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=vkvYA9WT,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-10-20T10:35:08.548+0000) > > Given similar Skill, a {{champion:119}} will rape a Vayne in lane and with an item ahead, 2-shot her (thanks to {{item:2043}} ). That is implying the support is competent enough to buy a pink ward and the Draven has the mental capacity to juggle axes. Oh, and Draven inherently takes more mechanical skill than Vayne because of his axes so that exists too. At this point I just automatically dodge whenever I see a Vayne or a Twitch on the enemy team. Twitch is actually possible to shut down but at anything below Platinum the lategame is pretty much guaranteed.
Rioter Comments
Elstir (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=M4DN35S,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7igkOThJ,comment-id=000500010000,timestamp=2016-09-17T01:58:51.795+0000) > hyperboosted ass monkeys {{champion:202}}
> [{quoted}](name=Elstir,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7igkOThJ,comment-id=0005000100000003,timestamp=2016-09-17T15:28:41.988+0000) > > {{champion:202}} The sad part is that almost every time my ADC is Jhin he fails miserably even if I lock the enemy champion down for him to hit.
MorroWtje (EUW)
: Tips for climbing!
What if my entire team is a pile of rotting cabbages? What if the sole reason in every game we even have kills is the sheer hypertank power and CC that my Sion support lays down? What if I am literally hammering the kills into their thick craniums but they lose me the game even if I get a 4-man ult off?
: > [{quoted}](name=M4DN35S,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7igkOThJ,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2016-09-16T23:56:25.419+0000) > > How? > > Just... How? > > No matter what role or champion I play, every single SUBHUMAN-FILLED RIGGED-ASS PIECE OF SHIT MATCH SOMETHING GOES WRONG AND NO MATTER WHAT I FUCKING DO THERE'S A SMURF ON THE ENEMY TEAM, OR WE GET LEVEL 1 CHEESED BY FIZZ, OR THE TOPLANER IS A BOOSTED FUCK MONKEY AND FEEDS SEVEN KILLS BY FIVE MINUTES > > You know what? > > Fuck you. > > Fuck you for being so lucky as to not drop into Bronze 5 by the sole virtue of the ranked system being rigged to favor RP-buyers. Which is exactly why you are bronze 5. {{summoner:11}} {{summoner:11}} {{summoner:4}}
> [{quoted}](name=Santastic APR,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7igkOThJ,comment-id=00050001,timestamp=2016-09-17T01:15:08.977+0000) > > Which is exactly why you are bronze 5. > {{summoner:11}} {{summoner:11}} {{summoner:4}} I am Silver 4. Currently in the process of going into full montage mode and just getting cancerously good at Leona and manipulating the hyperboosted ass monkeys that I get instead of teams into actually playing well. Shot-calling, map awareness, morale manipulation, initiation, force-feeding my retarded adc the kills that he should have gotten by himself. If I post salty comments link me to this post as a reminder to **_~~STOP FUCKING PLAYING ON TILT YOU SPONGEY CUM SOCK~~_**
: I looked at shyvana, pantheon and swain games
> [{quoted}](name=Tosha,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=oBBGEuyP,comment-id=0000000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2016-09-15T15:27:55.242+0000) > > I looked at shyvana, pantheon and swain games I barely even played Shyvana and most of my games with her were extremely bad because of tilt, lack of experience, and shyvana being underpowered in general.
: > [{quoted}](name=M4DN35S,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=oBBGEuyP,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-15T14:26:40.274+0000) > > I consistently win my lane and get first blood. I have looked at five random (wins and losses) games in your match history, and in none of them did you take first blood (or had an assist on first blood). > > I gank lanes and MAKE them get kills. You consistently have the lowest kill participation of your entire team, often not even near 30%. So that's not happening either, not even as jungler. > > I often out-CS the ADC just by picking up jungle camps and pushing lanes. Nop, also consistently false > > come on, be real now. You can keep focusing on your allies mistakes, but as long as you have this glaring blind spot towards your own, you will not climb.
> [{quoted}](name=Tosha,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=oBBGEuyP,comment-id=00000000000000000001,timestamp=2016-09-15T15:05:05.820+0000) > > I have looked at five random (wins and losses) games in your match history, and in none of them did you take first blood (or had an assist on first blood). > > You consistently have the lowest kill participation of your entire team, often not even near 30%. So that's not happening either, not even as jungler. > > Nop, also consistently false > > come on, be real now. You can keep focusing on your allies mistakes, but as long as you have this glaring blind spot towards your own, you will not climb. Let me guess, you looked at the games I played with Shyvana where I was on tilt. I am talking about my Pantheon games where I was actually trying to play well.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=Shiwah,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=oBBGEuyP,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2016-09-15T14:31:21.718+0000) > > How does it do it? > > And I'm pretty sure that Riot themselves said that the blue side actually had less winning rate than the red side. Let me rephrase, Blue side USED TO have a roughly 60% win rate before matchmaking was made to put higher ELO players on the red side to try and balance it out. And be honest, do you really think Tencent are above rigging the ranked matchmaking so they please the paying customers?
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=Shiwah,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=oBBGEuyP,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-09-15T14:25:10.237+0000) > > I'm curious, how does Riot manipulate matchmaking? Matchmaking consistently places higher ELO players on the red side to create an illusion of balance due to the fact that the blue side used to have a 60% win rate.
: Yes you suck period. Accept it look at yourself and what you could do better instead of flaming others and blaming them for every mistake.
> [{quoted}](name=Flüssigsubstanz,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=oBBGEuyP,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-15T14:21:17.663+0000) > > Yes you suck period. Accept it look at yourself and what you could do better instead of flaming others and blaming them for every mistake. I consistently win my lane and get first blood. I gank lanes and MAKE them get kills. I often out-CS the ADC just by picking up jungle camps and pushing lanes. Is it MY fault that my botlane almost always pushes up to their tower and gets double killed? Is it MY fault that my midlaner does not stick a fucking ward in the side bush and tries to tower dive with a squishy champion?
Infernape (EUW)
: [Citation needed]
> [{quoted}](name=FurorDivinus27,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=oBBGEuyP,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-09-15T14:10:44.963+0000) > > [Citation needed] In every single ranked game since I left my placements, my team fed so hard that I could not pull them out of the loss. Now mind you I play Mantheon so it is literally my job to gank out the ass even when I am playing toplane, and I do that every game. Doesnt matter, if I gank mid and get him a kill, he feeds the enemy jungler a free kill three minutes later while I am busy trying to smash the free gold into my ADCs thick cranium. Out of 37 games, I have won 14, and 6 of those were my promos. I would know that I suck if I kept losing in normals, but I regularly play with golds in my normal games and they feel like actual balanced and competitive matches where both teams have a chance at victory. NOT IN RANKED, BUY RP OR GET SHITSTOMPED %%%GOT
: Illuminati is afer you, (all-seeing eye) system is after u oooh (creepy sounds)
> [{quoted}](name=Skylinez33,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=oBBGEuyP,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-09-15T13:59:53.949+0000) > > Illuminati is afer you, (all-seeing eye) system is after u oooh (creepy sounds) No, not after me. The system just lets people that consistently buy RP climb, and shits all over people that do not. It has been this way since Tencent bought Riot.
Rioter Comments
: I will probably get downvotes for this but Yasuo is in an okayish spot as assassin. The only thing we are dealing with what really is cancer is the same as Ekko. Tankyasuo+Ekko. While the last nerf on yasuo helped it was probably not enough but I doubt they will "rework" yasuo maybe doing some tweeks about the damage as a tank. And if you don't know the 4 BIG reworks that are coming with the assassin update will be Katarina Leblanc Talon Rengar (if i remember correctly).
> [{quoted}](name=Flüssigsubstanz,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=ZIayEVfe,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2016-09-14T19:13:18.250+0000) > > I will probably get downvotes for this but Yasuo is in an okayish spot as assassin. The only thing we are dealing with what really is cancer is the same as Ekko. Tankyasuo+Ekko. While the last nerf on yasuo helped it was probably not enough but I doubt they will "rework" yasuo maybe doing some tweeks about the damage as a tank. > > And if you don't know the 4 BIG reworks that are coming with the assassin update will be Katarina Leblanc Talon Rengar (if i remember correctly). They should make it so his crit passive makes his crits deal 160/165/170/175% crit damage increasing at levels 5, 9, and 13 respectively. At 160% his passive will just about make it more effective to build crit on him than other champions, by the 10% that is. Also remove the magic damage from his E, not everything has to deal damage. Make his W consume some of his flow so he has to think about using it.
: zed is nonn-toxic assassin? sorry what brb, Ulti on adc and Q him once then ulti back to safety and watch the adc pop like an apple pierced by a bullet... zed is one of the hardest assassins to counter as an adc... Adcs have got no protection ever since the QSS removal from zeds death mark.... even the relic shield from supports are fukng puny
> [{quoted}](name=Scrublord69,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=ZIayEVfe,comment-id=00030002,timestamp=2016-09-14T19:20:16.214+0000) > > zed is nonn-toxic assassin? sorry what > > brb, Ulti on adc and Q him once then ulti back to safety and watch the adc pop like an apple pierced by a bullet... > zed is one of the hardest assassins to counter as an adc... > Adcs have got no protection ever since the QSS removal from zeds death mark.... > even the relic shield from supports are fukng puny Uh... Yeah. Zed is extremely snowbally, and his laning phase is weak. You can just wait for him to try to poke and all-in him early on and he can not do anything because he blew his shadow. Take something stupid like Kled or Fizz and take your free first blood at level 2.
: Dont rework zed , please.
Zed's getting reworked, and there's nothing you can do to stop it. If not directly, Assassin items are getting reworked anyways. His kit is one of the few non-toxic assassins in the game right now, so it's more likely cancerous asswads like Kat and YasuOP will get reworked.
: So he really is a living tree... isn't that a bit close to Maokai? But anyway, would like to know what he is able to do. Seems like he has some kind of interaction with bushes. :D
> [{quoted}](name=SatomiKun,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=p9talh5n,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-09-14T18:00:53.996+0000) > > So he really is a living tree... isn't that a bit close to Maokai? > But anyway, would like to know what he is able to do. > Seems like he has some kind of interaction with bushes. :D I think that this treant is more like Treant Protector from dota.
: Don't f*ck up Kata
New Yorick is ridiculously strong, as is New Fiora. Stop being a crybaby and get used to the fact that league is changing.
: If everybody is OP, noone is. However, you have to enlighten me. I have heard about Vlad being OP in multiple threads now. How is this possible? It's pretty much the same as old Vlad, only with much, much, much more counterplay. I mean, if you see that shining yellow bar soon to be turned red, WHY do you not back for a second? If you see Vlad charging up that E, just stand behind the minions for a while longer. How is Vlad OP? O.o Or are we talking about Silvers and below?
> [{quoted}](name=Prugar Senpai,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=beKwGQlP,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-06-13T08:15:20.245+0000) > > If everybody is OP, noone is. > > However, you have to enlighten me. I have heard about Vlad being OP in multiple threads now. > How is this possible? > It's pretty much the same as old Vlad, only with much, much, much more counterplay. > > I mean, if you see that shining yellow bar soon to be turned red, WHY do you not back for a second? > If you see Vlad charging up that E, just stand behind the minions for a while longer. > > How is Vlad OP? O.o > > Or are we talking about Silvers and below? Old Vlad was OP too, but nobody played him. Also the tank items are fucking busted in season 6, and Vlad loves tank items.
Rioter Comments
Tamo Tua (EUW)
: Thank you Riot for Yasuo
Oh man, Mordekaiser deserves some buffs. Either make him a late game hypertank monster like the other juggernauts or buff his ap scalings and movement speed.
ThePikol (EUNE)
: What help do you want? Should I show you where the door is? Illaoi won't be removed from game and she's not that hard to play against.
> [{quoted}](name=ThePikol,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=LpR26Etk,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-09-13T05:49:44.516+0000) > > What help do you want? Should I show you where the door is? Illaoi won't be removed from game and she's not that hard to play against. All I want is what **hard** counters her. No, not fucking dodging the hitboxes so deceptively massive they might as well be a season 2 Blitz hook. I mean a champion that walks up into lane and makes her completely useless just by the sole virtue of being themselves. League has far too few hard counters.
: Oh....who? That girl with the kit designed to crush noobs but is absolutely worthless against people that know how to play? Damn, makes me wonder which one of those are you.
> [{quoted}](name=Prugar Senpai,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=KvRey4sb,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2016-07-06T17:42:00.942+0000) > > Oh....who? > > That girl with the kit designed to crush noobs but is absolutely worthless against people that know how to play? > > Damn, makes me wonder which one of those are you. Remember that time Zileas made a post about how they do not want to make champions that are anti-fun? Yeah. It does not matter how strong she is, her kit is designed about psychological warfare and making people feel powerless against her, and it does not matter how much you go on about her lack of CC, lack of mobility, or vulnerability to CC. CC counters about... Every single champion. It is not a valid answer to counter specific champions, especially one as cancerously tanky as this roided up nigress. In addition, the hitbox on her Q is as busted as a season 2 Blitz hook. Not in length, but in width. Almost like Riot wanted to make it impossible to dodge without buying boots and playing a champion with a base MS over 325. E is anti-fun by design. Q is too wide, and thus creates anti-fun due to the opponent being unable to dodge it sideways even if they obviously did. Her entire design philosophy is to force you under your tower and shit on you if you try to fight her.
Rioter Comments
: "League is no fun anymore"
Denying FotM-picking fuckwads their victory. Winning despite overwhelming odds. Having a lot of deaths and very few kills but getting an S-rank anyways because of how many objectives I took.
kurnubego (EUNE)
: Every fakin one who climbs gets "bad teams". Difference is they manage. Carrying your teammates who otherwise don't deserve to win, is how you climb for the most part. Yes, that includes games where riven gets 4 kills before 5 min mark. That also includes 4v5. Fak, I once had a game where my ENTIRE Team was afk, except me, what I did? I just played my lane. And you think you gonna tell me about "bad teams"? Ok sorry, I though you can be reasoned into a mindset which allows self improvement and higher rate. Whatever, stay where you are, keep blaming your teams. Your current performance with nearly all of your champions is below average within the elo you're playing. I didn't invent it, I just described it. If you chose to take offense at that it's your right to do so. Stay in denial, fuck I tried, I'm done.
Boo fucking hoo. Fuck that. I might as well just play normals to polish my overall play and get a premade team with voice chat on discord and shit on people in ranked like I did back in HotS.
kurnubego (EUNE)
: http://www.lolskill.net/summoner/EUNE/M4DN35S/champions Um, doesn't look very good. 90 cs per average with Jayce. You should have atleast 90 cs by 14min mark **each** game with every champion mid/top. Again, not to beat on the same thing, just these data are clear and contradict what you have written above. And you'll keep losing games if you won't fix this issue. And every champion will be overpowered. Katarina isn't strong pick currently. There are one pony tricks with that champion, some players are really decent. Smurfs from high elos like to lay waste at low elos with that champ. Whatever, lets put aside that game. The issues I was discussing are consistent. If you fail with cs you'll always end up with unimpactful and weak champion who can't carry his teammates. You can throw excuses, but at the end of the day, the only person hurting here is yourself. P.S some people who are more experienced on Jayce may correct me here, but ... I'm pretty sure you don't rush manamune as first item. You get tear, farm up, get ghostblade, when finish manamune. This might also indicate another weakness? Lack of knowledge, LoL is a game which has vast amounts of info for players to chew on, if they wanna be decent. I for once play Olaf now. Simple, straight forward champion. May play is pretty much based on knowledge, not fancy tricks or plays. And I'll do mistakes, because I lack knowledge, like I will have poor damage forsight in a teamfight. I won't be tracking which champions used what abilities and how much burst they have if they jump on me, sometimes I won't expect and I'll get flanked. Or I won't be tracking properly my own teammates resource bars or cooldowns before I go in. n stuff like that. I'm gold II... which I've reached with my main Shen (main since Silver II), who just got nerfed hard, bcs of LCS. Champion wasn't performing above 50w/r mark before the nerfs in regular servers, in my eyes now he's gutted. Since I'm not picking him up again, unless in very specific comps (with kog'maw for example, where peel is essential) I expect drop in rating. Probably I'm not Gold II player, I'm Gold II Shen. But .. I hope I can work on it. :) still have hopes that I'll reach plat until end of the season has been stedy climb ever since bronze IV.
> [{quoted}](name=kurnubego,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=41RMw1Mn,comment-id=00040000000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-09T23:30:21.407+0000) > > TL;DR: Being aware of your shortcomings is an excuse now, hurr go to bronze. Just fucking stop. I know exactly what are my shortcomings, and I know that if I am good enough, I will climb. That does not however change the fact that the matchmaking loves to give me a 3-4 game streak of normal matches and then throwing me on a team with autistic peruvians that give the enemy riven 4 kills by 5 minutes. I know I suck. Stop trying to be a smug %%%% about it.{{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
kurnubego (EUNE)
: Poor cs is not related to "overpowered" champions. And while I do understand your frustrations I'll try to unpack this a bit better. http://matchhistory.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/1510314368/216345628?tab=overview This is the game I just had. Notice Irelia's and my (Olaf) cs. Early game she had 4 kills. But fallen off in cs by 94 | 63 to me. I simply kept rotating between top / mid / drag bouncing waves. Lee Sin, who was a bit clueless kept constantly raging why I am "f***ing around in top". Every champions is OP when he has more gold. And CS is primary source of gold, which you turn into kills -> snowball. Especially in top lane, where how you play with waves is more important than mechanics how you trade PvP. That is to have a "overpowered" champion who can carry the game. That's why. Look at my items, look at Irelia's items. And you really need to start doing it too for starters. It's crucial. Another thing, you should stop dying. --> Fight to survive, not to kill, contest objectives <-- As now moving to 'overpowered' picks. Knowing what is strong because what reasons. And what you can use against your opponents is skill on it's own. To be able to 'abuse' multiple picks is quite demanding from a player, because he must switch champions with great efficiency. That's requires skill and good understanding of the game which goes beyond muscle memory and comfort picks. I don't have this ability. I'm somewhat ok only with few picks. But people who can play anything on demand are true masters of the game. Really, if you want to improve you have to just focus on yourself. Not others. And just admit to yourself that you might be wrong. That you're teams maybe don't suck as much as you think. And that you may in fact do something more about winning next game. Or could have done something in previous game to win, rather than lose. P.S. Jayce is strong pick, currently. This might be very helpful. Try to watch it with open mind. Guy played through all elos multiple time with his 100 games with champion x to diamond challanges. Also High diamond / master NA player. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8BtklaSWl0
> [{quoted}](name=kurnubego,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=41RMw1Mn,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2016-09-09T22:49:40.509+0000) > > snip I know all that. I watched that video. I know that CS is the most important thing. My last game was how I USUALLY play. I know what Katarina is capable of, so I stayed back, farmed, and harassed her with Power Slams. Even got a kill on her thanks to the our jungler. ...And then she proceeded to roam to bot and pick up one kill. One. Exactly one kill before getting killed herself. **she snowballed into a 10/2 moster** How is that fair? I will tell you how it is, it is not. Moving onto my play, I think I CSd pretty consistently in this particular match, and even got my Manamune before 10 minutes. Yes, I died like an idiot to katarina rolling her face on QWER and insta-deleting me with her giant throbbing ~~bellends~~ balance, while I was in hammer stance, and had GA+Hexdrinker. I also took towers. And **tried** to peel for my carry. And like, actually did my fucking job for once. Because the enemy team only had one bullshit champion that needs kills to unlock her bullshit, which I prevented in lane. My last few games, notably the ones after the 5 Yorick matches, were on tilt. This latest one was not because I relaxed and whatnot. You do not have to explain to me how to play. I know how to play League. I know how important CSing is. I know that objectives=god. I have played mobas before, I have over 400 hours in DotA 2. Me placing in Silver 3 is not a coincidence, and if it is an unlucky one because I went full retard and played four of my placement matches while on a massive losing streak.
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