: Adc role feels kinda dead
well basically for bot lane is the best support wins you the lane , as ADC main I feel it's the most nerf abused , especially when they kept nerfing Sivir <\3 , I don't think they understand who's controling bot lane , it's definitely not the ADC .
: if i have 4 feeders in my team and we keep losing like 5 teamfights in a row and no winning play is made i should be allwoed to rq, game would be over in a minute anyways
2 wrongs never make a right I know the frustration of having a bad team , but rq is not the solution just report them for inting post game .
gianniskws (EUNE)
: They dont get banned ;/
I think they should minimize the LP lose if you have an AFK or a feeder in a lost game , it's getting silly having that one player who can make your game hard to climb.
iaapvper (EUW)
: Do you also believe RIOT should be more strict and perma ban trolls and feeders?
I second that , Riot should be more strict with feeder and trolls and also who rage quit .
CJXander (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Max of Gotham,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=VMpfsRxW,comment-id=000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-24T23:07:32.957+0000) > > asking politely is never the same like being rude , please know the difference and act like it . But you're not.
How am I not ? comparing to yours , my comment was more polite .
CJXander (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Max of Gotham,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=VMpfsRxW,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2019-07-23T23:28:59.218+0000) > > No need to be rude , you typed "Shut Up" for an expressing opinion . But that's exactly what you're doing now. :D
> [{quoted}](name=CJXander,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=VMpfsRxW,comment-id=00000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-24T06:27:45.220+0000) > > But that's exactly what you're doing now. :D asking politely is never the same like being rude , please know the difference and act like it .
CJXander (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Max of Gotham,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=VMpfsRxW,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-07-23T00:06:58.542+0000) > > you can move along if you feel this discussion is pointless without spreading your negativity . So could you?
No need to be rude , you typed "Shut Up" for an expressing opinion .
CJXander (EUNE)
: ***
you can move along if you feel this discussion is pointless without spreading your negativity .
RayleighTT (EUNE)
: Unfortunatly thinghs ain't binded to what tiers people have , no one realise that there are gold players who play way way better than some platinum players, there are maybe platinum players who deserve to demote from that tier etc... . I also seen a common mistake from some people , i one have 400 k played on jinx ranked ... ,i meet leona support 30 games played ,she became toxic against me that i don't do more , well i couldn't , because she had extremly stupid gameplay and position , roaming /troll/ been toxic and further more she didn't had enought experience to even use skills with precision and efficient.. , no knowdledge when to go in or out , build trolled then she got afk ... , so such people expect me to carry them , and i am not even mad because i am certainly sure this guy will not get permanent banned ,after he been toxic/roam in min 4 that she didn't wanted to play again with me/grief/troll/afk intentionally , but i am sure Riot will just find to ban her 14 days if they find her behaviour toxic.. , if ...
I get flamed for my 1m {{champion:15}} too XD , idky players expect me to carry their fed enemy top of 11-1 Morde even if i managed to win over enemy bot lane , I wish they help out more than judge and type and expect someone should carry them just because I got points on a champ more than them XD
Trizzer (EUW)
: There is also that awkward moment when you realize you play barely any normal games at all, have silver-gold mmr there. Come in the normal game as a Diamond 3 player and get harassed for even dieing once or simply losing the lane... Like you're simply not allowed to die if you're higher ranked. And then you get a comment thrown at you in the style of "nice ebay account", "Boosted diamond", and when you look them up they are the 400-600+ hardstuck players in a lower rank harassing you. Basically where I am going to: look at it from both sides as well and have some understanding for both sides. Because the example I just gave disgusts me just as much. And the way I see it when there is an argument in game about which is the better objective to go for, let's face it, the higher ranked player simply has better knowledge of the game in a multitude of aspects. Learn from it. Just the same way how low diamond players learn from higher diamond and master/challenger. And for those who still believe they are at the same level but stuck in their rank for whatever reason. Please step out of the dream.
There is nothing wrong with what you typed the wrong is when you initiate the " Drama" or claim a victory you are no part of .
signedL (EUW)
: Are these kinds of topics really worth discussing in such breath and length or are we just washing our mouths, sipping tea and pondering on natural human behavior in a million shapes and forms...
being nice needs to be normalized , being toxic is a choice tbh If you feel the topic isn't worth discussing , you are free to no participate.
: i had the exact same thing, so i played one ranked game and got bronze, and that person still jested at me. with is wrong with this community sometimes man
Yeah , I lost hope today and in the future for less toxic players encounters XD
Hexa XV (EUW)
: There will always be people who will flame you for everything. I am sure they don't care which division are you - they are writing things that they think they will HURT YOU somehow. The best way is to just mute them and report at the end of the game. They are not worth your anger. :)
<3 thanks for your support man <3
: Those types are the ones who type a lot, so I usually just say: You definitely are an essay master number 1 global. When it doesn't work and the person keeps improving their wpm I just say: Do you actually think we care about all that nonsense? And if that doesn't work, it's a lost cause and I mute. 40% of the times it does work, but some people just want to improve that wpm.
I think I'll use this method with them too
: there r only 2 ranks now in 2019 new player and smurf {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
Hexa XV (EUW)
: Do you still care about it? I don't. I was in Diamond on my first account for a while but after ban I decided "fk this" and didn't got higher than Gold 3-2. I don't see any big difference between those matches and people's mentality. Of course you can find worse players with less experience in Iron and Bronze but not all of them are like that. Sometimes it's just people who play with friends as smurfs or are not into rankeds at all. The more I play this game (5-6 years now), the less I enjoy playing rankeds...
I used to play normals only to enjoy the game , I got insulted and mocked for my "unranked " status , once I decided to change it I placed through Silver and climbed Gold to Plat , and I'm still unskilled under someone's judgment who can't win lane at least XD .
Yraco (EUW)
: It's even worse when it happens in normals. People have complained at me in normal games because I'm gold, which seems to mean I'm trash or I should be playing better and hard carrying every game, even though my last soloq game was my promotion 5 months ago that pushed me just high enough for season rewards.
Same with my game , I went Cait and they expect me to carry 3 roles without any help or protection XD .
Dewritoes (EUW)
: Watch out there are also things like icon / fan shaming. I'm a fan of Misfits and have team pass and all, but im afraid to equip the icon since it's the laughingstock of the LEC right now.
They just wanna shame someone over something , not sure what is going on with their life to do that XD .
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: i got inted by a supposed masters 500 games 50% win rate zyra player in d3 the reasoning you might ask? the enemy team picked yuumi and i said that in theory zyra should be capable of outputing more poke than yuumi can sustain through apparently that was false since zyra decided to afk half of the early levels because yuumi poke apparently op standing inside the wave pressuring the adc as yuumi is half a champion early game is not a viable strategy but i think she was much better than me and instead i knew nothing of what i was talking about after all yuumi has 100% win rate and is literally unbeatable
I don't usually depend on the Supp because I know sometimes the points doesn't mean much during a game , but it does get annoying if he isn't at least trying to out-play his match up I feel you man , lots of love .
: There are people who say stuff like "lol 500 games and still plat" and they are annoying and it doesn't even work as an argument to anything. However, often times people think that they are being rank shamed when in reality they are not. As an example, a silver player complains that darius is overpowered. Then a high elo player (like a diamond player) tells them that he is not overpowered and that the silver player shouldn't concern himself with game balance because he doesn't have the necessary game knowledge and level of understanding about the game to make any statements related to game balance. The silver player often takes that as an insult and rank shaming (more often than not) when in reality, it's just a fact and entirely true. Not to mention it has nothing to do with rank shaming.
> [{quoted}](name=GonahtanuGepardi,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=A86am1xE,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-07-21T01:28:53.102+0000) > > There are people who say stuff like "lol 500 games and still plat" and they are annoying and it doesn't even work as an argument to anything. that happened too when they checked my profile , but it's not the 500 games , it's my points on my main XD why am I being targeted for having fun playing a champ , no idea lol .
: I don't think you should try to defend your unhealthy playing habits with the idea of 'all shapes of elo are wonderful, you are an unique little butterfly who is perfect'. Thanks a lot!
sorry but , I couldn't understand what do you mean by that .
: good luck with that bud, e peen size is important
I thought we should get passed that as we get older XD
Poramies (EUW)
: Lmao shut up plat player. jk man :P
XDDD all the love man ! <3
: > [{quoted}](name=Max of Gotham,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=A86am1xE,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-07-20T23:32:23.989+0000) > > especially diamond players who have been carried hard by their teammates ? Isn't that rank shaming as well ?XD Anyhow I get what you mean but they prob. use it as an argumentation tool when everything else fails :)
I just wanted to specify which ones who were toxic :P , sorry if I made it sound as rank shaming , it wasn't in my intention .
Rioter Comments
kjono1 (EUW)
: I submitted a ticket to Riot 2 days ago and got a person responding to me; this was then followed up by another person when I had additional information to give them. Hiring more people wouldn't resolve the problem due to how high the player base is, there are multiple reports after almost every game and with up to 3 options to choose from on the reporting system, that number is too high to be looked into without the use of a bot. It would take far too long to get through each report; it would cost too much; it would be inefficient and as a result would most likely ruin the reporting system. In a perfect world, hiring more people would be great, it would be more accurate, but that perfect world would require a smaller player base and less false reports.
> [{quoted}](name=kjono1,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=4wYXhYGm,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2019-07-14T22:26:22.427+0000) > > I submitted a ticket to Riot 2 days ago and got a person responding to me; this was then followed up by another person when I had additional information to give them. that's new , I might start reusing the riot ticket submission again . > Hiring more people wouldn't resolve the problem due to how high the player base is, there are multiple reports after almost every game and with up to 3 options to choose from on the reporting system, that number is too high to be looked into without the use of a bot. > It would take far too long to get through each report; it would cost too much; it would be inefficient and as a result would most likely ruin the reporting system. In a perfect world, hiring more people would be great, it would be more accurate, but that perfect world would require a smaller player base and less false reports. So what's your solution to improve ?
kjono1 (EUW)
: I assume you mean the tribunal bot at the end of the match where you can report a player and not a ticket such as a support ticket where Riot look at the situation itself. As such, there are not enough staff to monitor every single report that riot receive, hence the need for the bot. I do, however, feel the bot doesn't over all aspects and those it does cover are too wide a range for the bot to pin point exactly. I feel riot need to sort out the reporting system, with occasional spot checks on both those the bot has and hasn't punished to ensure it is correctly punishing those breaking the rules. Currently they categorise everything by hate speech, verbal abuse, negative attitude, etc. But in selecting, for example, hate speech, the bot is going to be looking for homophobic slurs, sexism, racism, and so on; rather than just the one thing you reported. The could easily format it another way such as using drop down, where the first drop down would pick the main category and the second drop down would be the sub category and so on. The problem's not with using a bot itself, asking people to go through every single report that gets made, go through all the chat logs and watch every game; they would be constantly working through a huge back log and your report would not get answered because by the time they got to it, there would be no point punishing the person given how long ago the incident was. The problem is with ensure the bot is accurate and covers all the aspects it needs to.
> [{quoted}](name=kjono1,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=4wYXhYGm,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-07-14T21:59:52.607+0000) > > I assume you mean the tribunal bot at the end of the match where you can report a player and not a ticket such as a support ticket where Riot look at the situation itself. no , I mean the Blitz bot who answers your ticket when you submit a ticket for riot support , do try to submit one and see what kind of message will answer you . > The problem is with ensure the bot is accurate and covers all the aspects it needs to. I understand this is meant for the players who int and for those who creatively create new way to type bannable words so they don't get detected , imo they just need to hire more people and increase their pin-point performance rather than relying on a system which has some flaws .
Kasadya (EUW)
: dude please , bots arent made by employees who answer the tickets , i undertand that u lose all the games but please stfu and go argue in facebook
you don't need to reply to my comment , you can move along {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} .
: Do you want them to work 24/7? A personal life is what you have after you finish your work so what you said the make me question if is worth keeping the conversation. > this is why many players flame , int and gets away with it . The fk I read? If you are tired then I will understand. Read the line again in the morning.
> [{quoted}](name=TheToysTracker,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=4wYXhYGm,comment-id=0000000000010000,timestamp=2019-07-14T21:48:46.289+0000) > > Do you want them to work 24/7? A personal life is what you have after you finish your work so what you said the make me question if is worth keeping the conversation. what's working 24/7 got to do with doing the job right ? :\ > The fk I read? If you are tired then I will understand. Read the line again in the morning. you need to keep rereading it till you understand .
: Or maybe they are overloaded with tickets and also have a personal life. Maybe for that is that bot, but for sure you know the truth because all the employees on this planet just waste time and making bots to do their jobs.
> [{quoted}](name=TheToysTracker,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=4wYXhYGm,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-14T20:56:48.344+0000) > > Or maybe they are overloaded with tickets and also have a personal life. never mix work with "personal life" > Maybe for that is that bot, but for sure you know the truth because all the employees on this planet just waste time and making bots to do their jobs. this is why many players flame , int and gets away with it .
: tolerance policy by riot
It's not tolerance , it's simply the staff is NOT doing their job at all , there seem a lot of employees slacking around the office to the point they created a bot to reply to player's ticket submission .
: Play another game
Ember Frost (EUNE)
: What's the reason for this board?
It's just for giggles , shaming and mocking other players , nothing actually constructive discussed here .
: Congratulation, you have broken me
Unfortunately the more you report the more flamers/ toxic players appear , I think the report system needs to be updated , there are so so many players that are getting off the hook by flaming their teammates with their own language converted to English XD . I do think the riot support needs to be replaced with more efficient employees too , they are not doing their jobs at all.
Lil ISIS (EUW)
: League is bad for my mental health
I do too , but what can you do? :(
: > [{quoted}](name=Max of Gotham,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=aw0645Ey,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-06T13:30:56.985+0000) > > I see , so submitting a ticket it is , sigh Yes, because this one is a quite """clever"" attempt to circumvent the system. However, I am confident that any support member will understand that the intent was to say "k.y.s" and deal with this player accordingly. It is unfortunate you have to waste time for that, but in the end, it's worth it.
True , I wish those toxic players be as creative in game more than being " creative" in bending the toxicity they produce in game .
: A bot won't flag it as "kill your self" so he can do it as long as somebody takes his time to write a ticket to support.
I see , so submitting a ticket it is , sigh
Rioter Comments
OTP Jayce (EUW)
: yes plssss, make new server
did you just commented on your own form and replied to ur own request?
: Human patience has a limit
Punishment for a crime doesn't distinguished among anyone no matter how good/bad he/she is , if you do something wrong , you will be punished for it .
PsychoRex (EUW)
: Riot is back to its behaviour to not share anything about problems
They should really hire more people , and improve a lot of stuff in the game .
Cyptix (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Max of Gotham,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ztzVFqML,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-26T15:37:33.126+0000) > > Yeah , during the Adc items rework he was really OP , until they set back the crit items dude, that was half a year ago xDD
What I meant it's this year :P .
Cyptix (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=RespectfuIRobbie,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ztzVFqML,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-26T14:10:13.773+0000) > > Lucian was OP last patch Lucian OP? {{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
Yeah , during the Adc items rework he was really OP , until they set back the crit items
VIT Laati (EUNE)
: Meanwhile funneling XP to the ADC with Teemo support mid is bannable.
Now you're just being ignorant that wasn't the main reason he got banned {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
: I think someone planted the idea somewhere online and now people are doing the yuumi afk thing
This is really frustrating in rank games , copy cating a streamer like that is just mindlessly upsetting .
: I thought saying "Kill yourself" was an instant ban?
Yeah , they definitely need better Riot support staff , the ones we currently have in this server are lazy and incompetent , so many better employees would fit in and do much better than the ones in this server . they're so lazy they even created the Blitz bot response to the ticket submission so they won't have to work for their living {{sticker:sona-playing}} I'm glad 10 to 20% of the reports are working but we're missing the 80-90% that abuse the system and get away with it , system AND staff needs update and replacements respectively
: Is "Pick Yuumi and do nothing" a thing now?
I just had this Yuumi who had 0 wards , Who started that thing ?? XD
: Why do dumb people start arguments
and when you try to ignore them , they type " I mean" and keep arguing XD . I just mute their chat and ping , such players are never helpful .
: I need psychological help here
Because they're taught that you can win even if you're against a 1v5 , and they were taught that it's all 50/50 + - chance , thus means they can win even against a smurf . I know it's frustrating to get matched unfairly but this is what the community is teaching one another , if someone complained about a game some players immediately judge that it's his/her fault because you can 1v5 and win if you deserve the elo you want to reach . It's said , unfair , unthoughtful but that's why the community earned one of the top spot on the toxic communities in the games' history .
: Is this how you " Defend" yourself ? your ban is really just {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
Keep begging for them , it makes me laugh even more hahahaha
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