: It mostly depends on whether you win or lose the game. You get 800 - 1500 for winning and only up to 200 from a lost game.
I see... But surely it mustn't be solely a win-lose thing. There must be other parameters as well, right?
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CJXander (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Misa Dantes,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=9MpoEluE,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-09-01T18:54:45.952+0000) > > I have nothing against losing. Of course, am I happy - no!, BUT if we all just gave our best, tried, enemies were just better, gg wp, and move on. But when you lose a game because of a troll of any kind that does leave a bitter taste and no matter how strong of a will you are it WILL impact your next games for the day. You're behind? Farm. You just died 1v1? Build def item, play safe. They have stronger tf, engage? Play around your team. They gank? Ward. Every problem has a remedy and action you can do to TRY to win. If you troll, steal farm, int, sabotage, flame... How will that help anything? My rank game experience boils down to, the team with less trolls usually wins. I do not troll, I always try my best, so that is 1 less potential troll, but the rest of the team make that up real nice. :D Hey, i totally get where you're coming from, but for my experience, games are lost because the team mates suck, then they start to griefingl when they lose hope. Here's a thing, if you're good at this game and you're climbing, then you won't be placed with better team mates,not necessarely. You will be placed with the worst allies possible and stronger enemies, because that's what climbing means, do the best in the worst scenario possible. I know it sucks, but there's nothing we can do about it.
My thoughts are that you can not get mad at someone for NOT KNOWING what he has to do, the thing that tilts me are people THAT KNOW that what they do is wrong and does not help anyone in that specific game, and they still do it. You are behind in farm because you get camped, after reseting the wave when the big farm wave comes your jng goes to clear it and says "you're useless, you don't need this". Well sir, now indeed I am, you gave them my lane's pressure, you took my resources, I might as well stand in a bush as a ward to have some utility.
Eveninn (EUW)
: Getting upset about a teammates missplays, or tilting in general? Those are cases I frequently encounter, but I would never consider them trolling.
We all missplay things and miss skillshots and this and that the difference between players and trolls is that we swallow it up and continue gathering resources to get back in the game while trolls do everything possible to sabotage us in doing so.
: Matchmaking is the problem .
In what sense?
Eveninn (EUW)
: Define trolls. As I consider teamwork to be part of 'skill', so if someone is struggling with working as a team I still wouldn't consider them a troll. By this way... maybe 80-90% of my games are decided by skill. But I'm bad with estimating numbers. \*shrug*
Hm, that's a toughie! Let's say that every action that goes against your common goal of winning the game, aka sabotage of your teammates in any respect can be called trolling. If you play a support and you take your adc's farm, well that is trolling.. etc...
CJXander (EUNE)
: People don't like losing, regardless if they win something or not. Take normals for example, i'm a diamond player and i play at my normal level, people call me tryhard, then we have new players on normals, people that play the game for the first time in their life... they are being called "trolls" and "inters" by those normal games vein-pop veterans. No matter what you do, how you play or what you say, there will always be one unhappy side... or both. This game is a toxic can. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-rainbows}}
I have nothing against losing. Of course, am I happy - no!, BUT if we all just gave our best, tried, enemies were just better, gg wp, and move on. But when you lose a game because of a troll of any kind that does leave a bitter taste and no matter how strong of a will you are it WILL impact your next games for the day. You're behind? Farm. You just died 1v1? Build def item, play safe. They have stronger tf, engage? Play around your team. They gank? Ward. Every problem has a remedy and action you can do to TRY to win. If you troll, steal farm, int, sabotage, flame... How will that help anything? My rank game experience boils down to, the team with less trolls usually wins. I do not troll, I always try my best, so that is 1 less potential troll, but the rest of the team make that up real nice. :D
: ***
Thanks, will try. :)
Murr (EUNE)
: Add Murr in game and lets try it out (:
Ok man, thanks I will. :)
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SirBlues (EUW)
: Honoring Enemies
I definitely agree. In this sea of trolls, flamers, tilters, it is a ray of sunshine when you see a sportsman, honorable and respective opponent and I would very much like some kind of system where I can give him a +1, thumbs up, honor, anything, just for the community to see and recognize them and that the sportsmanship is still not dead and I believe in it! Even if you have 4 people trolling in your team if there is an opponent who recognized your efforts and said a supportive and kind word, you will still end that game in a positive manner even if you lose. He made the gaming experience positive for you as opposed to the trolls trying to ruin it. I think we made this game too much into a "I either win (no matter how, was it troll, afk, etc.) and I am happy or I lose and everyone sucks", what about the gaming experience itself, just playing and enjoying the game?
: > [{quoted}](name=Misa Dantes,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=p222EjEa,comment-id=000400010000,timestamp=2018-08-25T13:25:23.532+0000) > > You can NOT accidentally tell someone to kill himself - period. Personally, would permaban for that, "accidentally" or not. So you have time after to accidentally reflect on what you said to another human being. ;) By accidentally I meant you forget its a bannable word and you accidentally write it :). And there are no human beings playing this game, Only gods and monkies.
Ohh so it's a bannable word, sorry, didn't think of that. Well you just gotta find other non bannable ways to wish people death, right? WTF are you even saying! It's wrong, everything is wrong... There is no acceptable and positive way to tell someone to kill himself. Nor even to think it. You should accidentally start thinking what the hell are yuo even writing before you click "post"....
Kurotsu (EUW)
: I kind of don't like Mute All
Well I have some thoughts to share on this. First there are people that are more susceptible to what other are saying compared to others. If you are, then there are many ways to stop them from reaching out to you with negativity. Mute all is the first one. You can go to lol folder, open some files and input ChatScale to -100 so you hide it in game. You can download an app to turn off the ENTER button in game so you don't get tempted whether to flame them back or not, blah bla blah, it all boils down to one simple thing. Whether you have chat on or not, whether you are "softer" or "harder" person to get to, just PLAY THE DAMN GAME. Literally. Just play it. Do not think of them, their words, pings, flame, just think what will win you the game, what objective you need, and PLAY it. If they made your gaming experience worse, report them after the game and gl hf. :)
: > [{quoted}](name=DutchPro,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=p222EjEa,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-08-25T10:51:16.238+0000) > > The death wishes do get punished, hard. It's only int that doesnt often get punished Straight up wrong. You can hardcarry a game, But if you accidentally tell someone to kill himself or something like that, You can say goodbye.
You can NOT accidentally tell someone to kill himself - period. Personally, would permaban for that, "accidentally" or not. So you have time after to accidentally reflect on what you said to another human being. ;)
DutchPro (EUW)
: The death wishes do get punished, hard. It's only int that doesnt often get punished
Any proof for backing this up? Because I myself reported surely hundreds of death wishers, cancer senders, family murderers myself over the last months/year, and I got maybe 2, 3 notifications that someone was penalized, which is DEFETINGLY DISCOURAGING. I am not even reporting the "regular flame", like "idiot, moron, dumbass,.." etc. I am talking about the hard core ones that no sane human being should ever mouth or type to anyone..
: I was thinking about being in the exclamation mark but it's too straight and I'm gay ya know?
Even gays like 69, so I guess you can be Spanish question mark as well. You can also quote "La cucaracha" lyrics to people to get them into mating with you.
Misa Dantes (EUNE)
: Trolling Supports?
Just had a game with Anivia support. She constantly trolled whole team with the wall. Stopped recalls, walled us off with enemies, etc. etc.. And had a laugh for the whole time. i don't think it was taht funny to the 4 of us. So what will be of the report I compiled? NOTHING, they just don't give a flying F. As long as people pay for skins and chromas, do whatever. :) It's a business after all, has to earn money. :)
Saibbo (EUW)
: >What are you supposed to do when you get a trolling support? Keep playing. >Picks non supp champion, takes your farm, let you die on purpose, etc. etc.? You keep playing. >Draft pick exists for a reason, to be drafted to a position, right? Kinda. >So how to battle this? You can't. >How to report it? Negative attitude, Verbal Abuse (if he say something), Intentional feeding (if he dies a lot). >Are there sanctions for it? Depends. >So, what now? Forget it and go next. As a ADC main i can tell you that i totally understand you... but you eventually will come to understand that the best you can do is to ignore him and accept that you'll have 0 impact in the game as a normal ADC and the game is most likely lost, just farm under tower, defend but don't die for the tower and just keep farming and if the other lanes are somewhat good you'll be still able to help them somehow. Infuriating? I know but you can't fight every moron that you come across, it's not healthy, it's a waste of time and doesn't do anything even if you try.
But that is the point, whether your team carries you or not, YOUR game experience was completely ruined by his actions, just because bot lane is very closely connected and complex lane to play. Win or lose you wasted 20, 30, 40 min of your life just because someone decided it's cool to do what he wants. So it should not be US fighting these people, it should be the game itself. There should be a report box for it, and it should be punishable. The mechanisms of the game itself to detect this type of behaviour. I am just throwing some thoughts out there.. As I said in come comment before, there is a certain willpower needed to ignore all of his actions and still maintain the healthy and positive attitude, but when you get this type of behaviour in 3 out of 5 games you play in a day, then even the most resolved people just tilt and wanna afk from that toxicity. P.S. If you do afk YOU will get punished, not them, GG RITO. :D
: As a mage support main myself, I think stealing farm is kinda stupid. It's much better for the team if your adc can get a lot of farm. Instead I buy spellthief's and poke as much as I can.
Exactly, taking adc's resources will just push both of you deeper behind vs enemy bot lane. You NEED an adc to be/stay/become relevant with gold/farm/items, just because it is such a position, role. 99% of the time feeding your adc will be better than taking his farm.
Oshri (EUW)
: Play with me, i'm a main support and looking for people to play with :P {{champion:89}} {{summoner:3}} {{item:3190}}
We are different servers bro, EUW-EUNE :D
BigManJones (EUNE)
: The implications of the misuse of the "missing enemy" ping, and a solution.
I agree. Spam pinging ? on you 5 times in a row has pretty much the same effect like writing something bad. Does it help? Will it make him more attentive about the map and his surroundings? Will it make him help you? Will it win the game? No to all...
: English not first language
Друже, као лингвиста који говори пуно језика, као професор енглеског језика, ти кажем, никада немој такве опаске да примаш к срцу. То ти махом кажу они који једино тај један језик и знају и вероватно су неспособни или незаинтересовани (због своје затуцаности) да науче други... Поента језика је комуникација. Ако си ти њему и на оном "Тарзан" енглеском објаснио нешто, и он схватио шта си ти поручио, онда је комуникација 100% успела. А један савет ван језика, труди се да своје писање у ЛОЛу сведеш на минимум, никада се ништа позитивно, конструктивно и сврсисходно није рекло у ЛОЛ чету. :D
: You can troll him right back, if you are willing to lose the game. It's what Riot Games' punishment system encourages anyways. Or you can just let him carry you and even if he's at the same level as you and sucks equally you report him for not contributing to the team. But I don't think that'll get you far in delivering justice.
But I don't want to come to the point where I need to troll him back, what will that accomplish? Will it make my game experience better? No. It takes a lot of willpower to try and ignore all the things he does and still think positively and towards the goal of winning the game. In some games I can maintain that lvl of willpower in some I just crack and want to afk from that toxic environment. I just wanna play the game, win or lose, no matter, just enjoy the GAME...
Scrinnid (EUNE)
: Trolling support does everything he can to throw the game or just not contribute to a win at all. So basically thats griefing, report, write in the box, move on. Off-meta picking AND carrying the game most likely is not trolling. More than likely in that case you are dumb enough to get caught off position all the time. Off meta picking and just being bad means he would be such dumb anyway. We all get supports who sleep or don't know what the hell that role is for anyway. You'll see support main in the top and he will make the enemies game a living nightmare. You see a autofilled support playing meta support in botlane and it will feel like he is just trolling, even tho most likely he just sucks. Not to mention those who suck and play something like malphite or lux. Basically they don't know the role and thus don't know when and how to contribute to lane dominance(not to mention snowballing it into lead). With autofill and position select around, this is pretty common. Since with draft pick it was pick order, and last pick ended up always being support...rarely somewhere else, more of community knew the role
So, playing "supp" that does every single thing to sabotage the adc and then says, "wtf this adc no dmg". Well it is kinda logical to NOT have items/gold/dmg if all the resources went to some other place. I don't care about winning, even if I lose a game, but both me and my supp/adc did our best as our roles demand, I had a successful game in my books... The enemies were just better, gg wp to them. :) And move on.
Fajerk (EUW)
: I believe that "winning" isn't 100% of your game experience if you play the game.
Exactly this. I am adc/supp main so if he nicely asked I would fill in for him, instead he just came and said "I am adc"... The point is I WANTED to play Ezreal, I did not want to play support that game. And the reason for playing Ezreal was to practice him, get he hang of his power spikes, trades, etc, to just enjoy playing Ezreal. I was underfarmed, switching between contesting every single cs with him and constantly farming alone under turret vs 2 enemies, and so on. So i would say that my game experience as an Ezreal was really really bad, wouldn't you? If you play just for the wins then "You are a very lonely person, right?" to you too. ;) You are not playing the game.... P.S. And that is just the same mentality as a trolling supp. ;)
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Djañgô (EUW)
: N'oubliez jamais cette jolie phrase de ML
I came here fo the Joe Cocker song. :( Found no song. :( Ok. :(
: Given that trust is the weakest ADC rn, u sure it wasn't 5man troll XD
Oh come on, she is not the weakest. She is neither GOD TIER but she can definitely pull her own weight in games. :)
: 3 so far. FK! Need to play more xD _Don't be so safe with your TITLE! In one day I will be the real "trolled" player by his team._
The game is on my friend I await your challenge :D GL HF :D
: Did you know that I losed the Gold promos 4 times in a row? :) First 2 promos was (hard to say it) "ok", because I still had some 5v5 fights. The other 2 games was troll-afk roulette from the min 2-3. I had games that was more long than my entire 4th promo xD
Yes, but did you have FOUR trolls in one single game? HUH! That's the trick, the mastery lvl to unlock! :D
Smerk (EUW)
: Doran's Blade is normal start for Kennen btw, even he's going AP.
It's a normal starting item for a support Kennen? A supp item would give him cd, ap, and gold, instead he took Blade. :D
: I've been in comma for 1 whole painful year.
You've been in a " , " for a year? :D Respect man! That's devotion! If I could choose which punctuation mark I want to become I'd pick the Spanish question mark, they put a reversed question mark before and the normal one after. So it's sorta like a 69. Ying Yang! Deep stuff!
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: Disable Chat
I completely agree with every single word written in the text above. I play this game for what, 2 years I guess, and for all this time never ever have I seen anything remotely positive or constructive being said in the team chat and LET ALONE all chat. Pings are very usefull and can be used for ALL communication, but the maximum amount of pings should also be reduced to lets say 3. Spamming 5 ????? pings on you is pretty much the same amount annoying as flaming. It is a very competitive game, and in the same time very delicate with so many windows to fk things up, so logically there will always be short tempered people who will take every your mistake *and their mistake that they transfer to you because they are challenger and do not deserve the rank they are in* and rub it in until the end of the game. They will literally stop using any of the brain power and game resources to continue and win the game and will instead commit all their energy into ruining yours. Horrible. We can all lose temper in an under pressure situation, and almost all of us are guilty for saying a bad word to someone in the game, BUT the point is we should consciously strive to stop before we do it and have self control. If not, there most definitely should be a check on/off option for a chat. You have disable/enable all chat option, just add disable/enable team chat option. Thank you.
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Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Thank you for your answers Shiwah, I see. I just hope that over time we get an even healthier community. :) GL HF. :)
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Ok I will trust you on your word, but it still happens much too often to give you the impression that those words are getting eradicated with a timely sanction, so the people using them reform, and understand their wrongs..
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: High ping every 10 sec
I come with an update... The situation in game is still the same but when I thought about it I might have found a reason... Windows had some new "security" updates around the time when my lagging started.. So can it be that? Can it be something with firewall, ips, something? Does anyone know how to fix this please? My in-game ping looks like this> in 30 seconds 30 different pings, from 100 to 300... every second other, up and down constantly... It is really unplayable... And before this I've never had a single lag problem..
: High ping every 10 sec
Same problem on EUNE, started last night, around, 7, 8... and lasts until now.. I did cmd ping test and got more or less the same results.. P.S. Usually I have amazing ping, around 30, max 40, without ever having any problems of the kind, but since yesterday it is unplayable...

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