: {{item:3285}}
> [{quoted}](name=Urgot x BDSM,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=GUpJzuXn,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-03-13T18:39:37.421+0000) > > {{item:3285}} The damage is without luden's passive!!! Reed the comments, they are 4!
Antenora (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=TheAlphaHunter,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=GUpJzuXn,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-03-11T20:25:26.959+0000) > > I had boots and void staff for magic pen. I had ludens but with ludens it did more than a 1000. I had AD runes and masteries cuz first wanted to check some video options but then I decided to have some fun and notice that the 900 damage with 655 ap is too high. My full build was:{{item:3020}} {{item:3165}} {{item:3285}} {{item:3157}} {{item:3089}} {{item:3135}} Remember there's % damage masteries like Merciless, Battle Trance, Double Edge Sword, Bounty Hunter
> [{quoted}](name=Antenora,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=GUpJzuXn,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2017-03-11T23:16:50.403+0000) > > Remember there's % damage masteries like Merciless, Battle Trance, Double Edge Sword, Bounty Hunter I had 3% not 50%!
: that sounds wierd, the way back deals True damage..not sure about the other damage though, did you have Ludens or hit on max range / had +% damage modifiers? Q has 35% Ap scaling 2x so basicly 140 + 35% AP, which in your case is 229 140 + 35% AP , 229 TRUE DAMAGE it should be 369 each way but then theres the MR which makes it lower, did you have any MPEN? Give us your full build, masteries and runes please and i might be able to help more.
> [{quoted}](name=Tits Out 4 Vayne,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=GUpJzuXn,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-03-11T18:19:02.628+0000) > > that sounds wierd, the way back deals True damage..not sure about the other damage though, did you have Ludens or hit on max range / had +% damage modifiers? > > Q has 35% Ap scaling 2x > > so basicly > > 140 + 35% AP, which in your case is 229 > 140 + 35% AP , 229 TRUE DAMAGE > > it should be 369 each way but then theres the MR which makes it lower, did you have any MPEN? > > Give us your full build, masteries and runes please and i might be able to help more. I had boots and void staff for magic pen. I had ludens but with ludens it did more than a 1000. I had AD runes and masteries cuz first wanted to check some video options but then I decided to have some fun and notice that the 900 damage with 655 ap is too high. My full build was:{{item:3020}} {{item:3165}} {{item:3285}} {{item:3157}} {{item:3089}} {{item:3135}}
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strut (EUNE)
: It got on cooldown but i couldn't go down. That's the problem
> [{quoted}](name=Mr Kalózúr,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ezy0Zx8X,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-05-10T15:42:00.093+0000) > > It got on cooldown but i couldn't go down. That's the problem When you use E+W combo you get out of W when your E detonate and in your case you W in the same moment when your E was detonating that's why you don't go in pool.
strut (EUNE)
: Possible Vladimir bug? Anyone else experiencing the same?
His W go on cooldown when you press it, not then you get out of pool.
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: You drain health over the charge duration... So a full channel will cost 10% but a snap cast will cost considerably less
> [{quoted}](name=swampert919,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=sErmMh9h,comment-id=000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-04-21T16:40:55.805+0000) > > You drain health over the charge duration... So a full channel will cost 10% but a snap cast will cost considerably less It may be like you say cuz there is no good information for now, but for most time you will use it on max charge because the damage on not fully charged isn't so good. For me is fair to be like EZ ult, Zed Q on 360 degree, first target take full damage and every next take less and less.
: You're underestimating Vlad's strength. Consider Tides of Blood to be mainly a waveclear ability. Transfusion can be cast from 500 range I think, that's far away from any melee champion's range. Build a Spirit Visage and a Rylai's Crystal Sceptre and you'll be just fine, you'll heal minion damage and slow them hard enough to eliminate their chasing power. Transfusion was and still is a very good poking tool.
> [{quoted}](name=Gunslinger744,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=sErmMh9h,comment-id=00000002000000000000,timestamp=2016-04-21T13:28:31.353+0000) > > You're underestimating Vlad's strength. Consider Tides of Blood to be mainly a waveclear ability. Transfusion can be cast from 500 range I think, that's far away from any melee champion's range. Build a Spirit Visage and a Rylai's Crystal Sceptre and you'll be just fine, you'll heal minion damage and slow them hard enough to eliminate their chasing power. Transfusion was and still is a very good poking tool. The range is 600 but will not lane only vs melee champions and think how many melee champions have gap closers with this range or higher.(Jax, Maokai, Irelia, Pantheon, Zed, Talon, Katarina, Fizz, Akali, Renekton, Darius(he pull you to himself), Zac, Xin, AAtox and etcetera). And if they have 5% brain you will hit then 1 time from 10 with E and this time is when you will die. I have more then 650 games with Vladimir and I know what will be the problems. If you get behind in lane you never will be able to harass the enemy cuz you will be pushed under tower and you will look to CS.
: Exactly like ashes W (or E... which ever one is volley). The wave is made up of tons of projectiles going in all directions, when a projectile hits a target it will stop (multiple projectiles won't do extra damage) but any that haven't yet hit anything will keep going. So exactly like a 360 degree ashe volley, with a little bit of sion Q mixed in for good measure (you charge it up for extra damage but can release it at any time for less damage but smaller cost).
> [{quoted}](name=swampert919,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=sErmMh9h,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2016-04-21T16:12:16.340+0000) > > Exactly like ashes W (or E... which ever one is volley). The wave is made up of tons of projectiles going in all directions, when a projectile hits a target it will stop (multiple projectiles won't do extra damage) but any that haven't yet hit anything will keep going. > > So exactly like a 360 degree ashe volley, with a little bit of sion Q mixed in for good measure (you charge it up for extra damage but can release it at any time for less damage but smaller cost). The cost is the same 10% MAX HP! End the difference in the damage how long you charge it.
: Looks like I didn't see it right. I does send a wave of blood in 360 degrees that stops on the first target hit, yeah. My bad. Still, I don't think it needs a buff, it's basically old Tides of Blood without the auto targeting.
> [{quoted}](name=Gunslinger744,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=sErmMh9h,comment-id=000000020000,timestamp=2016-04-21T13:02:28.818+0000) > > Looks like I didn't see it right. I does send a wave of blood in 360 degrees that stops on the first target hit, yeah. My bad. > Still, I don't think it needs a buff, it's basically old Tides of Blood without the auto targeting. But now you must go over enemy minion wave to hit the enemy with it, now you have only 1 ability for harass(Q). If you go over enemy minion wave and the enemy is Riven, Pantheon, Ryze, Le Blank, Udir, Mundo and many more you are death!
: That's stupid, he'll be losing 10-20% of his max health just to cast it. For that cost it should be a powerful AoE.
> [{quoted}](name=Gunslinger744,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=sErmMh9h,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-04-21T12:57:42.614+0000) > > That's stupid, he'll be losing 10-20% of his max health just to cast it. For that cost it should be a powerful AoE. Now it hit only the first targets.....
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