Eraenis (EUW)
: Lets just face it: She is the new Yasuo. She got the usual CertainlyT ridiculous launch, plus she is simply obnoxious to play against, so everybody bans her. At this point i would guess she is going to get nerfed into oblivion (started already) until nobody wants to have her on their team either. I am really just waiting for the ZoeMain memes to pop up. Not judging you for playing her. Just don't get to invested into her, because this one just might crash and burn.
> [{quoted}](name=Eraenis,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=H2BPLmKi,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-02-13T15:32:02.832+0000) > > Lets just face it: She is the new Yasuo. > > She got the usual CertainlyT ridiculous launch, plus she is simply obnoxious to play against, so everybody bans her. At this point i would guess she is going to get nerfed into oblivion (started already) until nobody wants to have her on their team either. > > I am really just waiting for the ZoeMain memes to pop up. > > Not judging you for playing her. Just don't get to invested into her, because this one just might crash and burn. Yeah true, I'm not exactly getting that invested on Zoe already, I would like to think that I play her well to the best of my ability(as I have mastery 5 on her now), but I find it ridiculous that so many people are complaining about her. They will just get Zoe nerfed to the absolute ground just like Camille did. My friend mained her and now he can't even play her anymore. She got nerfed so much that she is basically useless nowadays. A lot of people are going to contribute to the probable fact that she will get nerfed so much that people will be dodging outta games because they are playing Zoe. Riot gave them nerfs to Zoe and in the future they might make her completely useless.
: To make it clear, what people hates about her? - You are talking about rengar, nidalee, etc. To one-shot someone like Zoe can do, they have to burn all their spells + R. Zoe with her funny cooldown on Q which is like 4sec with 40% cdr do the same thing. - Second thing - she can kill you instantly from a big range, that u cannot even see her coming with her Q + R. The same thing goes with E through the wall. - The QSS, Sivir's E (not sure about Nocturne) is actually NOT working on her. She is uncounterable at many points (only zonya/stopwatch) which is disgusting and should have been hotfixed in the very first patch. - If you still think she is at a good spot, ask riot why it has 50% ban ratio, which is the second highest ban-rate. It's ez af to make a combo with her, don't even argue. - I won't even start the topic about her mana costs and Q spam after completing morello + lich bane. There should be a huuuge nerf on her W, it should have like 40 sec cooldown to use it again. Like u can pick the next spell/item but has cooldown on it. I have played her twice. During these matches i've said on the discord "it must be nerfed af" like ten times. It's too simple.
> [{quoted}](name=ActuallyBanned,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=H2BPLmKi,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-02-12T23:22:59.218+0000) > > To make it clear, what people hates about her? > > - You are talking about rengar, nidalee, etc. To one-shot someone like Zoe can do, they have to burn all their spells + R. Zoe with her funny cooldown on Q which is like 4sec with 40% cdr do the same thing. > > - Second thing - she can kill you instantly from a big range, that u cannot even see her coming with her Q + R. The same thing goes with E through the wall. > > - The QSS, Sivir's E (not sure about Nocturne) is actually NOT working on her. She is uncounterable at many points (only zonya/stopwatch) which is disgusting and should have been hotfixed in the very first patch. > > - If you still think she is at a good spot, ask riot why it has 50% ban ratio, which is the second highest ban-rate. It's ez af to make a combo with her, don't even argue. > > - I won't even start the topic about her mana costs and Q spam after completing morello + lich bane. > > There should be a huuuge nerf on her W, it should have like 40 sec cooldown to use it again. Like u can pick the next spell/item but has cooldown on it. > > I have played her twice. During these matches i've said on the discord "it must be nerfed af" like ten times. It's too simple. Well, I know I'm talking about other champs, but I really dont think that they use up all of their resources to one shot to be quite honest. Rengar has to use only his R and all he has to do is run up to someone and just right click them. You're ok with that? Or the Nidalee just using her Q (while I am aware that this is a slow skill shot), but this can also use q from the fog of war. Zoe requires huge amounts of a predictions and if you miss then you're in a pickle really. Also, in order for her kit to work is that she HAS to be long range. If she is close range then she will do nothing! Her Q isn't really that spammable anymore. Ill agree that her combos are quite simple once you get the grasp, but its a lot harder to hit a skill shot than it looks. There's also the off chance that the enemy side steps the whole entire thing. {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
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