: Who know another game that is skill based and no pay to win?
skill based has active game dev team that outputs updates and content on a bi-weekly to monthly basis has no team dependency is of high relevance/popularity none other than league basically (why do you think this game blew up like this? it's definitely not because riot was giving away coupons to brothels) you can go to private servers for some mmos tho the quality will be way down the player base will be toxic as hell (you would actually think league is a fun family friendly place after you play in some private mmo servers) the content output if any would be heavily monetized and would be unstable on top of massive donators 100% controlling the top of the ladders and high end content sooooo pirate games i guess but outside fo mmos pirating will not let you play with other humans
PixelTobz (EUW)
: Thx and oh yeah how could I miss Halloween XD I wonder who might get Halloween skins this time ?? {{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
im betting on kaisa lux and ahri pepehands
: Not really. TK was so oppressive in lane it was pretty much impossible to kill him before the rest of your team did the cleaning. TK is meant to be a massive meat shield but has been nerfed to the ground several times.
do i need to provide a dictionary definition of "not really" for you?
: banned for using tftactics
support tickets im pretty sure the logs for the ban on the account contain the program detected
lets trip (EUW)
: Is Tahm Kench cursed?
he was (even when broken) win lane lose game champ the champ had 80+% lane win rates with 45-50% game win rates against those saem champions ie the champ falls off like a rock from a cliff in terms of contribution you need to be extremely proactive with your ult both transporting team mates and making ganks happen before you become a super minion and your goal is to win until that point comes otherwise your team has to win 4v5 and we all know how easy it is to win a 4v5
: Day 4 reminder that matchmaking should be looked at.
Garen 900 games gold khazix 7 seasons silver-gold in a row lissandra 5 seasons gold if you shit your pants is it going to be your dogs fault? one of the best parts of this post is that you even highlighted yourself as an inter
: what will we get for 10years?
some celebration and probably some cosmetic in the form of an icon or emote probably from what the teases have looked like i feel like the hype is overblown way too much
: https://clips.twitch.tv/CaringViscousZucchiniMVGame The life of a jungler Also, understand lane dynamics.
actually hilarous he kills a person nearly every 30seconds and his team is blowing up around him the definition of 1v9
: As a jungler what do you expect the laners to do?
not die lvl 2 1v1 and go full downsyndrome about jg difference
: I am with you on this. What I meant was that tanks aren't particularly bad, but their carry potential is not good compared to non-tanks. Therefore no one is interested, unfortunately
and in a perfect world they should be capable of carrying if they get ahead maybe not as hard as an adc or a mage but i would like to not be my teams %%%%% despite playing absolutely perfectly
: The tanks played in pro-play are being used for their essence. However, often this "essensce" does not apply on SoloQ/duoQ games. Pro-games are played by 10 people that fully understand the game and can therefore use champs such as tanks to their fullest extend. Though, this is not the case in 95% of the games below Master-tier. This leads to the thought of tanks being "not strong enough to carry".
you can't play tanks into conq in solo q and even if you somehow get an autofill top and smash him you still can't carry with a tank there are 4 "tanks" in top 30 played champions shen at 10th place with 5.7% play rate Shen has a really strong early game that allows him to win lane in solo q and ahs the option of opting into damage to have a really strong split push game (but that means he isn't going tank so you can safely assume that the stat isn't accurate) after that at 15th palce you have malphite at 5% play rate but he as well goes ap damage lately and 1 shots your backline after that at 29th you got chogath who goes ap hp stacking to 1 shot your carries and at 30th poppy the only real tank that goes tank and not some janky build both at 2.5% play rate oh and poppy is used as a hard counter to akali/irelia/sylas so her value is even higher and still 2.5% play rate yes tanks are doing completely fine in soloq
: The emphasis will mostly be on the burst champions as they are the most popular. However it is sad to see that happening.
i mean the only tanks being played in pro play are supports that purely offer initiation and sejuani and shen shen being a very specific pick that has always been oriented towards team play and gets hard smashed in lane and here we are riot buffing darius an already impossible to deal with champion when playing a tank fiora early game (where tanks have the only opening at beating her) and liyandri like ap damage wasn't already a massive issue for tanks to deal with :) sad day to be a tank main
: While a game can never each an absolute balance, that doesn't mean they should ignore it. They should always aim towards as good balance as possible. They don't have to reach it, but they have to aim for it for the game to be playable and for it to survive for a long period of time. >League has so many balance levers that the argument of balance can never be taken seriously Ofc it can be taken seriously. If something is disgustingly overpowered, it obviously needs to be nerfed to the point where it has a reasonable level of power. It doesn't have to hit perfect balance, but just get to a reasonable level. That means that there was a balance argument that had to be taken seriously. Also your Sion example is very bad as it has very easy solutions that already exist and make it balanced.
no it's rather easy to reach perfect balance rock paper scissors is a perfectly balanced game riot can easily just change every champion to have the exact same base stats and scaling and every ability would reach an arbitrary number of combined damage at any point in the game so that a brand with full combo would deal 1800 dmg after resists and yuumi would deal 1200 damage and heal/shield 600 damage that can easily EASILY be done is that fun tho is that interesting?don't know about you but i don't see people playing rock paper scisssors professionally
ˉˉIˉˉ (EUW)
: It's a different ladder but the same gamemode with the same rules. The reason there are two ladders is so people can either play solo/duo or with more than 2 firends at the same time (even though there are those people playing solo or duo in flex, too) In no way you can tell me it's fair that diamonds can destroy silver matches. Also, there could be different methods to determine mmr for flex matchmaking, it wouldn't need to be the highes out of both Qs. It could also be some sort of combination or just balancing out the matchmaking a little more by taking highest mmr in concern. The system could easily determine the highest mmr and games where 3 diamonds play against one or even 0 wouldn't be a thing anymore if they just atleast pair up people in a way that makes some sense if they search for a game at the same time.
Doesn't matter that it's the same mode damn it the game functions completely differently in premades of 2+ people
: Discussion Thread About Riot's Envisioned Future (Please Join To Give Your Opinion)
so tanks are currently shit tier riot: we want better options for these champions to deal with tanks https://sports-images.vice.com/images/2017/01/25/when-nick-young-the-basketball-player-met-nick-young-the-meme-body-image-1485378510.jpg?crop=1xw:0.6590777262180975xh;center,center&resize=1200:*
: Oof, when you start talking about balance like that, you have to define it first as it can mean multiple things. As an example, the balance you speak of is that every champion is just as powerful and good as another champion in every stage of the game. However, that's not the only type of balance that exists. It can also be considered to be balanced when different champions have different strengths and weaknesses but are just as viable as another champion when their own conditions are met. Like Twitch being good in the late game but bad in the early game and lucian being the exact opposite. That is also balance. So... >no game was ever balanced True >in no aspect >ever False >balance is not fun Subjective and false according to statistics. One of the reasons League is the most popular moba and game of all time is because the game was balanced enough to not have proper hard-counter match-ups. That means you will never be or feel completely useless from level 1 and skill also matters a lot more because of it. Thus, you could say balance is more fun than imbalance.
Well you can argue that a game can be balanced around something MMOs often balance around end game content RPGs often balance around progression ability RTS balance around potential income and output etc League has so many balance levers that the argument of balance can never be taken seriously AD sion is incredibly bad but if he can fully charge a Q from the bush he will 1 shot you without any reactionary counter play but then you have Tank Sion who doesn't care about his Q charging fully you just can't kill him So how do you balance this champion in scenarios where people can abuse vision and fully charge Qs in scenarios where people can ignore their Q in scenarios where people don't even know how to land his Q in scenarios where people can't land a Q due to enemies not being brain dead it's not possible now trying to balance it in accordance to 150 other champions with at minimum 2 variations in builds you can see how this task becomes impossible IE League isn't balanced It's perfectly Imbalanced and asking for Balance is ignorant stupid and will only break the champion Reference Ornn a 50% win rate dead champion
: The game became unbearable to play.
who ever talks about balance has no idea about balance no game was ever balanced in no aspect ever if there was a game ever balanced then it died as soon as it came out balance is not fun balance is not interesting watch perfect imbalance to learn how balancing is done and how league and dota do it for example about the toxicity on the boards it's an ongoing problem with how the moderation is done you might feel like rengar is imbalanced until you start playing rengar and you start encountering champions like alistar gragas and poppy that completely nullify your existance the game may not be for you and thats fine there are plenty of other ganres that are interesting rts's, mmos, rpgs, racers, fighters, side scrollers, simulators if you are playing league just because it's popular you won't have fun playing it
ˉˉIˉˉ (EUW)
: I feel like you're not really getting my issue here. I already explained what you just said in the original post. My point is that this system makes no sense.
let me paraphrase your concern 2+2 = 4 and it makes no sense It's a different ladder it's not a sub ladder of solo/duo it functions completely seperately and thus SHOULD ignore your achievements in solo/duo
: Honestly, feedback is important. Probably worded a bit more nicely, but it is. One thing to mention is we're not all "delete and ban" bots - personally, and I know a few others, actually prefer to edit posts rather than delete or moderate them - I don't like deleting content provided is contributing to the discussion. >For a 200m monthly player base having 500 people that visit the boards should speak for itself but i guess not Open to suggestions to grow this. One thing I miss about the OCE player base and boards back when I lived and played there was the fact that we were a small server, but a lot of us were on the boards, and community meet ups and events were common. I'd love to get back to this, so seriously, any suggestions and (constructive) criticism is good, and we do take on board. But don't word it like this post. This is just unnecessarily malicious.
the reason for the small community is because you allow "ranting" There should be NO difference between me wishing cancer on some asshole and that same asshole wishing cancer on the whole company (2500 people according to wiki) I understand you can't go through every post. But the more you keep disciriminating between ranting and flaming the sooner the boards will die. Riot employees disregard the boards because it's in this state. 90% of people are being angry at the game. 10% of people are being angry that the 90% aren't being dealt with and those 10% are the ones being punished and moderated on a regular basis the sooner you show this small community that the 90% are the problem the sooner they will be replaced by people that care about the game instead For example i posted a thread about swain and got 1 only 1 genuine player that wanted to give a lending hand the rest 10 or more people were in some shape or form disrespectful or trying to turn the conversation on how riot sucks instead of trying to figure out how to make the new swain feel like a champion imagine if 9 of those 10 people gave feedback instead of 1/10
Forte (EUNE)
: What a joke.
the moderation of the boards both EU and NA is an absolute joke Being supportive of people that shit on the game and shitting on the people defending the game is how the boards work i've even seen mods themselves shit on the game ie the boards are an absolute joke both moderation side and user side filled with intollerable assholes that get protected by mods because they are "not disrespecting people" i honestly despise half of the rules of these boards. they serve nothing but to propogate toxicity and silence discussions on the basis of "disrespectful" if you even spend 2 words out of 10 paragraphs saying how somebody is being a waste of oxygen The NA mods are a tad more lenient in general but i still feel that ranting especially in the form it is currently is nothing but a stage 4 brain cancer for these boards and little by little people will stop visiting this place and you will have your best dead league boards ever For a 200m monthly player base having 500 people that visit the boards should speak for itself but i guess not
: Noone cares, but I'm quitting
You are right on both fronts Quiting because you don't enjoy the game and that nobody cares Play Ori and the blind forest and wait for the next one
: Who decided to buff EVE ??????????????????????????????
i think the buff is completely meaningless i guess in some very very weird cases where a person has a lot of MR and gets shielded by a lulu and an ivern they now won't be able to survive an eve execute ult
ShacoOrTaco (EUNE)
: This thread is about what makes people toxic. Not about climbing so once again go and buy glasses and read all over 100 times to get it... {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
ShacoOrTaco (EUNE)
: Some company like Blizzard atleast would be perma IP banning those lel and Rito only bans the acc {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
IP bans are the most useless bans
: interesting fact
yeah sivir needs to be removed from aram the champ feels like an auto win
ShacoOrTaco (EUNE)
: This thread isn't about climbing. Go buy some glasses and read it again. {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
you are talking about matchmaking and autofill you are also an exclusively ranked playing player yeah sure you aren't talking about climbing sure not at all lol
: Why do people get so toxic over a video game?
The only thing that annoys me personally is people actively wasting my time. I don't care if someone plays poorly. I don't care if someone feeds becuase he gets outclassed. I don't care if someone flames but keeps playing properly. But the moment someone starts running it down because he got his feelings hurt and proceeds to waste 20 minutes of my life is when i get upset. I don't let people waste my time in real life but i don't have that control in league. I'd love riot someday implement a system like Counter strikes. if someone is an obvious burden to the team he gets kicked he loses double lp/mmr and the others lose 75-80% they can test it in Draft and see how toxicity drops in this mode and would require 4 votes for a non premade and 3 votes for a premade so that duos aren't protected and if a duo gets booted together the game is auto surrendered with the mitigations listed There should also be reviews with compensations for those people and punishments towards the people tat voted for the kicks if those reviews determine that the kick was not warrented Sounds complicated and it should be but giving power to the players to control their experience in game would greatly improve the quality of the game
ShacoOrTaco (EUNE)
: Why it's Riot fault that people are toxic?
defeatism never got anyone anywhere they wanted to be Yassuo: you can't climb because you are shit. ForestWithin: you can't climb because you are shit. Ratirl: you can't climb because you are shit. TFBlade: you can't climb because you are shit. Iwdominate: you can't climb because you are shit. Imls: you can't climb because you are shit. ItsHafu: you can't climb because you are shit (paraphrased she is too nice of a person to call you shit) Tobias: I can't climb because im playing like shit. every boards user complaining they can't climb: Im obviously faker and my teams riot and the universe are holding me back from achieving my dreams of winning the millions !!
: just a quick remark ... "if you are silver he is going to feel oppressive as the champ is way too forgiving in scanrios where people don't think" you know that over 90% of players are in silver or below ? so u are basically saying the oppinion of 90% of the playerbase just doesnt matter ?
> [{quoted}](name=eXø Epidj,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=smgJN0vQ,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2019-09-10T16:03:55.210+0000) > > just a quick remark ... "if you are silver he is going to feel oppressive as the champ is way too forgiving in scanrios where people don't think" > you know that over 90% of players are in silver or below ? so u are basically saying the oppinion of 90% of the playerbase just doesnt matter ? I'd much rather see yasuo get nerfed because no other champion in the game can function when 0/10 the champ is dumb to play against but that doesn't mean there are no clear avenues of counterplay the counterplay to yasuo is a lot more easier and clear than 90% of the champions in the game
: most frustrating role?
jungle with 3 inting lanes that all blame the jungler for losing their lane while enemy jungler is 0/0 or afk
: I think Yasuo is missing something very important.
his counter play is fighting him outside of a minion wave and dodging his first nado now if you feed him to a point where he can auto you to death you already %%%%ed up your first 100 opportunities to win the matchup l2p yasuo is one of those high skill champs that plumets in win rate the higher you go you know why? because the champ relies on your enemies being headless chickens in order to be useful or requires strong communication and setup if you are silver he is going to feel oppressive as the champ is way too forgiving in scanrios where people don't think
: > [{quoted}](name=Pxerkza,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=Iln42ExJ,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-03T19:07:07.305+0000) > > man the earth is flat > why is nobody coming to prove me wrong > come on man take me to space to prove me wrong > oh you can't > the earth is flat and you know it because nobody is even trying to get me to space Maybe if you didn't start by insulting me and actually trying to bring up some real arguments, I could try to argue against them. There was nothing to argue about. You are just writing junk..?
> [{quoted}](name=Okarin 001,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=Iln42ExJ,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-06T00:14:23.902+0000) > > Maybe if you didn't start by insulting me and actually trying to bring up some real arguments, I could try to argue against them. There was nothing to argue about. You are just writing junk..? https://www.highlandernews.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/ops.meme_.nba_-1024x768.jpg
: playing vs platinum im fine cuz its the elo im aiming at but when a guy is litteraly a way higher rank than that i feel that is really unfair and its not a one in 100 matches thing its every other match theres a guy with 90%+ winrate against me :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
i know my experience is pretty much the same 90% nidalee win rate that 1v9s the game and when i get 80% win rate duo abuse bot lane they both int my tip is never check them pre game it will only tilt you in 90% of the cases before even the game starts play your best if someone smashes check if they are a smurf and just watch the replay and put the follow cam only on them watch the map as they play and try to figure out what they are thinking if you get some diamond masters challenger smurfs in your games and you implement some of their strategies in your gameplay it will skyrocket your climb as 90% of what they are doing is not even required for them to win those games
: i can't anymore
to climb you have to eventually play against players with higher skill level the only way of improving is through trial and error theory crafting only gets you so far so instead of complaining about it look at what they are doing and try to understand why and what they are doing even if you are getting smashed by ratirl he still does plenty of macro decisions that decide his leads which you can start using yourself treat smurfs as free coaching though i understand your frustration especially when that smurf isn't playing against you as all you are seeing is fires starting all around you
: > [{quoted}](name=Pxerkza,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=E8H0cwLd,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-09-03T11:58:21.739+0000) > > for people thinking he got banned for 2 games > > he has been calling people %%%%%%s dog shit and been racist in almost every challenger game > > the ban is deserved > > the real problem here isn't that he got banned > the real problem is the %%%%s in his games still keep playing > while they were the main reasons for the toxicity > > the problem is that being mean is more severe than wasting a persons time and shitting on their efforts and goals The reason because this is true is very simple: Having the habit of flaming the s@@t out of your team while you keep playing to win is pretty common. If you are one of those crazies who think that flaming is right when you feel your team deserves it (which translate in: you flames everytime you f@@king want to, because, hear hear, you just decided it's right to do so. How is that dififcult?), you can virtually play ALL your games this way if you are not stopped. While deciding to put ALL you efforts into losing the game you are in from minute 1 is much more rare. And is expecially rare to do it ALWAYS. Because, simply put, one is not going to waste his time playing a game just to lose. So, ultimately, flamers do way more damage than trolls. However flamers are obviously not going to realize that, because, in their delusional world, flaming is normal, right, "traditional", manly or inoffensive anyway (they are able to find every possible excuse to excuse themselves. Anyone who has been on the boards for while knows that far too well). All they care about is that sometimes they lose games, and they feel none is to blame buy their teams (you won't say?). That's it.
when its deliberate trolling with intent to lose/ruin the game it should be as severe as being racist if one game of racist comments gets you 14 days one game of intentional feeding and deliberately losing a persons game should at least get you 24 hours and im not talking about the assholes that int after they didn't win their last game im talking about the assholes that int a streamer for exposure or to specifically ruin their game
Salron88 (EUW)
: except again. mine is permafarming so im loosing game bc of him.
yeah thats not a problem of the jungle role but the player
Salron88 (EUW)
: my problem is that people who dont know how lanes work talk sutff that people who dont know nothing at all read and makes sense to so we have a community who is messed up. when a jungler is active on a lane and another on is not the active jungle has also the power of the lane minions. meaning that when i freeze he has the power to help his laner to unfreeze and when my enemy freezes he has the power to punish me for steeping too forward even if i have warded
it goes both ways so just as much the enemy jungler has those abilities yours has them as well
: ***
man the earth is flat why is nobody coming to prove me wrong come on man take me to space to prove me wrong oh you can't the earth is flat and you know it because nobody is even trying to get me to space
: go fkin google it %%%%head another delusional rioter iguess
> [{quoted}](name=HEHE XD ROFL 69,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=E8H0cwLd,comment-id=000300010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-03T15:31:45.099+0000) > > go fkin google it %%%%head > another delusional rioter iguess https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riot_Games don't know man it says here 2500 employees
: So if the bank account shows your have 0 euros when just recieving your pay check you believe it. Anyone with just a basic understanding how coding works will be aware you shouldn't trust numbers just because you can load them from somewhere. If it's a local bug than the game won't show you this information when connecting to the server again.
you can downvote me all you want but according to everything you have given us today it looks more like you bought 3 pots by accident and walked out of the base
Silent Note (EUNE)
: His calculation was on point. Calculating with 943 skins (yes, I counted the available ones), upon opening 162 champion shards, there's just a little over 50% probability of getting 3 of the same.
Eumel2 (EUW)
: draw random numbers from 1 to 900 and count until you get one of these 3 times. Do that 1000 and calculate the average
my calculator skills are awful should the formula look like something like this? lets say 800 skin pool looking for 3 combos that would be 800!/797!*800^3=0.996 i definitely flubbed the formula hard
: Ban system isn't fair
feels bad man
: If trolling would be as easily bannable as bad words in chat people would stop being so toxic because the inoccent trolls would recude and be afraid to be toxic , they have 14 000 + people working there playing video games all day go search in on the internet , this company is just dumb
you pulled that number right out of the clump of hairs around your asshole
: People get frustrated when trying theyr best to win a game , and then a randomn inoccent bad player in challenger feeds on purpose . Guess what? U cant flame those poor little babies because u will hurt theyr feelings , this system makes no sense
no it makes sense but the system isn't doing it's job currently only verbal is getting banned ints trolls win trades aren't people are being in game assholes by their play patterns as dom says i'd much rather have someone in detail explain how he would have sexual relations with my whole female side of the family than to int or afk this isn't a case of either or this should be a case of Both both tfblade should have been banned and those asshats in his games wasting his time
Eumel2 (EUW)
: I got 3 ziggs odyssey shards which prompted me to this since i thouhgt this was already implemented. Also short simulation: on average you get a triple shard after 150-160 dropped shards.
there are 900+ skins in league how did you calculate that
Shamose (EUW)
: > yes you can reduce armor and MR into the negative and start dealing bonus damage Do you really deal bonus damage though? afaik it goes to 0 and doesn't exceed that. Since when someone has 0 resistances you are basically dealing true damage to them. If only you could set the resistances of those practice tool dummies to something, then I could just easily test this.
yes Examples: 25 armor → × 0.8 incoming physical damage (20% reduction, +25% effective health). -25 armor → × 1.2 incoming physical damage (20% increase, -16.67% effective health). https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Armor
: Riot, matchmaking needs to be fixed
normal games have different mmr
Salron88 (EUW)
: season 9. some people still dont understand how lane works and therefore you can never escape ganks everytime even if you ward properly. will they gain the brains to understand? wit for next season on RIOT GAMES!!
so your problem is that people are awful and not that junglers are too strong
Eumel2 (EUW)
: [Feature Request] 3 similar Skin Shards = That Skin Permanent
the likelihood of that happening is so miniscule 2 skinshards is still even a long shot even if you don't disenchant shards over an year good idea tho
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