Î Ram Î (EUW)
: TFT is too RNG
One thing is certain, im gonna dodge tft like mile away till they move a muscle and fix these: 1.For players to get equal or near equal amounts of items. (2 of my last games i got 1/2 item total from minions - one opponent got 3 completed items in 5min) 2.Equalise chances for players to get champions they already own compared to other champs. (spent 50+g in many games to roll 3-5 champs i need i never got them, there is some penalty in rolling champs we do not know, many other people wrote about this too) Gonna play other games and league aram till they fix it.
Î Ram Î (EUW)
: How do you know?
Becouse they deleted all my posts related to tft without any message of why they deleted them. I am also seeing many other posts being "silenced". There is a big window there in online games where if RNG is involved you can put boxes, boosts, unlocks and such to improve your luck in gameplay, this thing is too RNGish and they do not intend on fixing it, so we will find out why soon enough.
Î Ram Î (EUW)
: TFT is too RNG
Riot deleted my post they delete all posts related on tft criticism. They have some p2w scheme behind it thats comming.
: (PBE) TFT Match History and Replays
Want rewards, match history, less rng, balanced items and so on? SOON.INC {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
PaladinNO (EUNE)
: My usual ARURF experience: >/ff 8 My usual reply: >There is no surrender, only death! Okay, in ranked I'm more realistic, but I don't have the number of Normal games we've won in the end, despite someone wanting to surrender. As far as I'm concerned the game is over when a Nexus is destroyed. And if the game is (predicted) lost sooner, just use it as a learning opportunity. It really is just about the mindset.
People nowadays doing a whole lot of learning in League of Legends {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}} I mean, if you are not on the other side of the stick. You know the Darkharvest-lethality-metachamps-abusedskills-counterpick-burstmeta stick. Nothing wrong with the game really, people are just imagining stuff :D it is very skill related ! NOT haha Truth is most games are just sheer STOMP, and its getting borring to see it almost all the time. And hey, im one of those guys who when i see im being overpowered at my lane i bide my time and play defensivelly and i get one kill, two ,i start pushing and than BAM BAM BAM Kha/Zed/Akali/ Insert random burst combo champ here with their lethality items jump out and 1hit me without the time to even flash out. Or them funny moments when you flash your corpse away. Even winning has no charm to it anymore, its like playing vs bots, enemy does not have the time to do crap you can just jump in and pick em up till you get bored.
Rioter Comments
: People only play this game because they are addicted
UNDERDOG ! How can any game be guilty of anything ? Its not like its a person.. Its addictive becouse we want them juicy sweet stomp wins with 0 effort ! Especially now with the Dark Harvest + Lethality + Some Meta ( lets not name them) champs that make this game an utter sh?t fest {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}} But the game is not in the wrong, people always are, and people made League of Legends most unbalanced that it has been for a decade now !
SeanGoku (EUW)
: League community in a nutshell
Feel your pain man, those #Riot employees had better notice the downfall of community and amount of players and fast couse people are migrating to overwatch and other games. Games being based on number of afk's or who int's, trolls, is not good. The system should be more strict to straighten out players into teamwork and not prooving who can make most kills, there should be meaningfull team objectives and balancing, as well as OP champ balancing ,and report system upgrade, its about time. Riot has moved its attention to marketing and worlds, but the core amount of players is whats it all about, many games shut down this month.
Darkagio (EUNE)
: League of Legends is not what it was
Did not read it. Too much text. League is ok game, lil buggy, hell of unbalanced, but ok. Riot sucks at balancing and banning tho. Everyone i know quit this game.
Ökami (EUNE)
: You are literally the meaning of hardstuck, sorry to say that. I've been playing since season 6 with long breaks in between and season 7 aswell because I didn't have a PC, in season 8 I got placed in silver 3 and worked towards my goal, Platinum. I achieved Platinum very easily, then I said ''Let's go towards DIamond and here I am Hardstuck Dia 5 for over 30 games ):
Don't know how all of this takes into account for example my luck where 2/3 matches are with either afk or troll teammates. Simply does not compute to play this game seriously. You will always be dependant on the other players, maybe you can carry for 2, or 3 but not all. Played ranked few years back scored gold on prelims, climbed steadily but the toxicity pushed me away from the game.
Darwinion (EUW)
: It's a fair PoV you present, but unless I am reading it wrong, you are suggesting they get collected in the leveling phase due to creating new accounts (That's the experience I have that they already are, because JE SUS, they are in every single game without exception), and that is a 100% guarantee for any new players to either learn that behavior or simply just ditch the game in record speed. I've never been a fan of the other pseudo-argument Riots henchmen use about prisoners island, because currently the ones being prisoners are normal players while players who verbally assault others or purely play to ruin games via one form or another, can keep running around the hamster wheel. A prisoners island (within reason) is exactly what this game needs, pool players with any type of punishment into the same ques, and let them stay there until they can complete a given set of games without violating the games CoC. That way no one suffers from them, not the regular normal players above level 30, and not the players leveling. Naturally this also means abandoning 14 day suspensions and perma-bans, because the two yield nothing but dumping down the hostility to lower levels as is the case now, this also means that the first (and only) punishment is landing you straight into a prisoner-que. Yes, punished players can always make a new account if they can't complete a given set of games to get out of the prison-que, but I will bet good money that players who are allowed to keep their main account will be more enclined to reform, than if everything is taken away from them and they have to start rebuilding. If you need a real world analogy, then look at the american justice system, the only thing that's ever lead to is higher and more hardline forms of criminals with a stupendeously low reform rate, and that's because you have literally nothing left to lose once you are in it for a long time / life sentence.
Ok that is a valid point. Hm now we just have to wait for a wild support to come out of hiding and do something about it. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}} Not like riot employees read these threads anyhow, only community helpers which try to keep it civil.
Surma (EUNE)
: Who was that moron in Riot design team
Report button is placebo anyway {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} If you guys think report system does anything, explain to me how last 5 matches i had 2 were with double junglers, 2 were with afkers and only one was so-so That is my daily routeene i invest about 5hours of my time to potentially have 1 good match.. what has league come to. And by good match i mean just no afk and no ultra toxic players, its ok to be little frustrated in a pvp game. Still i think fortnite/overwatch and dota2 hands down have cleaner communities.
: if it would be faster then it wouldn't be accurate.. ,if it would be faster soon you will no see anymore good players or people who play serious and instead you will see much more trollers who got 3-4 permanent bans gived up and now they troll.
That is not correct, it is not even remotely close. The toxic players would get banned and stay in the low levels, if they get less toxic, they would move on higher.
: > [{quoted}](name=Magic Shopkeeper,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Miu8H2mE,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-11-25T05:41:19.578+0000) > > Riot is not really helping the situation either of late. > > They literally have this statement on their support page : " It doesn't matter who started it". > > What this does is : People who try to stand up to others that bully people in their game, often get punished just because standing up to rude behavior in this game is considered to be provocative and phrasing your message even slightly offensive way can get you banned. > > What is worse is that they use pretty much copy paste of chinese social score mechanics for this games behavior management, this means it's easy to ruin your standing but almost impossible to get back where you were. I have ran to tons of people that just make new account every time they get chat ban because of this, since it's FASTER to get to lv 30 than to get that penalty off. > > And now they removed borders based on behavior, this is going to make people troll even more, I tell you why. > > Loading screen borders are SKILL mark not BEHAVIOR mark. > > You earn those by being good at the game not by being nice, so when you get borders removed, game is shouting everyone that not only you are rude but that you are BAD in the game. > > This makes already volatile people even easier marks for trolls. > > Just try insulting plat -diamond player in game that you know is one just because they do not have borders and are " noobs". Try it, they will explode. i got permanent banned on eune for kinda almost nothing ,stayed good chill 3 months as much as i could , and there were to much toxic behaviour arround and trollers , i haven't loss my patience so hard but still got permanent banned ... ,i wasn't insulting someone in my opinnion i just wanted my support to play support and not split push top or roam while enemy have heroes who can kill me 2 vs 1 bot lane. Explained the fact that ranked rewards were always submited regarding skill ,and i also stated that ranked rewards you can't earn them without having skill and behaving good , so as the requirments for ranked rewards is to be skilled there is no point to take someone achievments cause he loss his calm or his behaviour was inappropriate ... , cause yeah for your behaviour you already pay throught punishments and no hextech rewards etc... Then i stated the amount of trollers borned on the end of season , what they did , they sayd that people have time to do lv 2 honor until 1 february... , if they got chat restrictions 5 ,10,25... not 14 days ban... ,and this is kinda such a shame for riot !! , they basically no offer anything to make you a better player , these rewards shoulded be yours anyway , they did this because: 1. They been afraid to loss lot's of players. 2. They doing this because is barrely fair to take someone skill rewards ! 3. They doing this because they feel the amount of indignation and the wave of people who were going to take riot name in dirt! 4. The amount of players who troll and made people loss them calm land to this current solution! I still no understand why people with chat restrictions can make it back to ranked rewards and players with 2 weeks ban can't .. ;)) it's funny if i wasn't getting permanent banned ,i was having lv 1 honor ,until 1 february i was taking that lv 2 honor.
There is a simple solution to all you said. https://boards.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/OqjdU78T-peacefull-critic-i-dare-you-to-read-it-riot I wish they just invested the time to improve the report system at least pace by pace, but make it more strict for it to really makes an impact. Hope there is anyone smart on their team to know what i am talking about, as in stages they could monitor how it would work.
: Player behavior in general.
What #Riot forgets, is that people will get disgusted by them neglecting the support and improving the community and boycot buying of skins or even playing the game, they can throw as much as money as they want to marketing, but players are playing this game, and right now, crucially these past few years what is most important is reducing the toxicity further. Becouse lets face it, there are so many other games to chose from nowadays, even genres, we got Battle Royale games, Overwatch type games, Other mobas, Card games, hell, i lost count ,and they are all very fun to play as well, but will a whole lot less toxicity tagged with them. Just think about it. https://boards.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/OqjdU78T-peacefull-critic-i-dare-you-to-read-it-riot
: Riot is not really helping the situation either of late. They literally have this statement on their support page : " It doesn't matter who started it". What this does is : People who try to stand up to others that bully people in their game, often get punished just because standing up to rude behavior in this game is considered to be provocative and phrasing your message even slightly offensive way can get you banned. What is worse is that they use pretty much copy paste of chinese social score mechanics for this games behavior management, this means it's easy to ruin your standing but almost impossible to get back where you were. I have ran to tons of people that just make new account every time they get chat ban because of this, since it's FASTER to get to lv 30 than to get that penalty off. And now they removed borders based on behavior, this is going to make people troll even more, I tell you why. Loading screen borders are SKILL mark not BEHAVIOR mark. You earn those by being good at the game not by being nice, so when you get borders removed, game is shouting everyone that not only you are rude but that you are BAD in the game. This makes already volatile people even easier marks for trolls. Just try insulting plat -diamond player in game that you know is one just because they do not have borders and are " noobs". Try it, they will explode.
https://boards.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/OqjdU78T-peacefull-critic-i-dare-you-to-read-it-riot
: Kinda sad what have become of them. Fcking corporate facists who cares only about how to milk the most cash from their fan base.
Hey, im pretty, how would you say sceptic, and i appreciate them investing time on those awesome animations and music videos, they are really nice, that is a separate thing. What everyone knows is that we just wish for lil bit less toxic enviroment so that we can just enjoy balanced games, with no trolls, afks on purpose, etc, where both enemy and your team can write GGWP
: I'm pretty sure inting isn't allowed by Riot :D If you wish to prove me wrong, run it down with nunu, about 5games, 0/20 scores (mobis + tears), and show me proof that your account wasn't banned. If you can't prove your point, how bout you stop spreading misinformation and bullshit on the boards huh ? thanks.
Yeah, they at least fixed that a bit, well.. in case at least several people reports him.
Darwinion (EUW)
: But that isn't a punishment at all, it's just extending the amount of games the person can ruin over time. Arguing that the 20min+ que-timer is punishment enough is a pseudo-argument, becuase the person is ruining the game for at least 4 others on his team, while most of the time the enemy players just act cocky and spread salt.
The afk punishment pool should not be 30min, it should be 1hour, lets see who afks on purpose or quits the game than ;) I have written something about it here https://boards.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/OqjdU78T-peacefull-critic-i-dare-you-to-read-it-riot
Rioter Comments
: Master Thesis on Purchase Intention in LoL
Took just a few sec, gl with your thesis. I suggest you research the new patent that has been going around, many people suspect Riot purchased rights on it as subsidiary. *The one where you get boosted in matchmaking with skilled team after making a purchase.
: Well I'm not gonna try to convince you, I believe you're able to decide if League is good for you or not. If you're not having fun here anymore, this might be a good time to quit. But if you still enjoy the game, like you said you do, I think you shouldn't see this as the end of the world ... You snapped and said some nasty things, that surely was a mistake, but it doesn't have to dictate the future. In a few months, this won't mean anything. Your account won't be marked forever, people won't treat you differently because of a past mistake. --- You can learn from the mistake and improve instead of dropping everything because it went wrong.
Dont think anyone remotely smart remained to play league, it went down faster than bitcoin. My friend list was empty for months now and i moved on, to fortnite paladins and other actually fun to play games. Everything i thought fun in league has been twisted over the past few years.
Lukis22 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Raistlin,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=49r6yRAV,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-03-30T23:40:24.500+0000) > > If people thinks Riot gives a **** or even reads these forums ,you got another thing comming. > > They are too stuck in esports dicokmpetition with dota 2 that they can not see the latest wave of toxicity. Well they should atleast sometimes stumble uppon this, cuz if not then it's totally bull****.
Nope, even for moderator to check out a thread it would take maybe few hundred upvotes for them to open it. If something has like 50 upvotes 1k views not worth their time, riot-defender squad emissaries will appear to tell people its all ok and that everyone is wrong except them.Seen it in few dozen threads so far.. ah well Ce la vie
Hydnoras (EUW)
: Playing mages is pretty much an auto-loss because the enemy team just gets 5 banners and you can't clear those minions.
Yeah... i never saw enemy team getting 5 banners in about 4 years of playing this game, so xD You win in this mode by super easy picks, poke mage like xerath, or ultra range like kai or cait. Just moments ago caits won by just linking their ults, you can not win that game whatever you do. They also placed like 50 traps ,so yeah. And xerath does not even need traps you never even reach him.
: Riot, why do you hate junglers so much?
And new mode jungle monsters do not give bonus gold, only lane minions. In your face junglers !
: Goodbye League!
1 explanation Most of the smart people abandoned this game and went for other online games. We are left with toxic immature people who spend all of their free time trying to tilt their teammates more than trying to win the game.
: If you want a competitive game which matches you with equal skilled players...
1 explanation Most of the smart people abandoned this game and went for other online games. We are left with toxic immature people who spend all of their free time trying to tilt their teammates more than trying to win the game.
Aguli (EUNE)
: I played Soraka , try this out. Perma silence, and its a lot of fun.
"Try this out" The point of this thread is that on EUNE 9/10 picks are adc or fighters. You get unlucky and get mage poke as enemy team they just push mid and end the game in 15min.
RallerenP (EUW)
: Report it under inappropriate name, and write in the box that it's the club tag.
#Report option works Naah {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} i keep seeing people from the same toxic club names so much for accuracy of the overinflated report system, was matched w them several times now
: Reminder that we need a Report option for club tags and names
Add # kill your self , first letters only to the list. Not like anyone will read this, riot never responds. They are cool like that {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
: He just had a bad game - riot games.
If people thinks Riot gives a **** or even reads these forums ,you got another thing comming. They are too stuck in esports dicokmpetition with dota 2 that they can not see the latest wave of toxicity.
Modso (EUW)
: The level of flaming have NEVER been worse!
This game mostly consists of puberty havoc teens and younger players. It is immensely toxic and troll oriented and whatever you ask of people to do, they will do the opposite. Haven't seen such immature community in all my years of gaming in dozens of online games.
Smerk (EUW)
: My 3 games that I played today: Brand vs Velkoz, Jhin vs Alistar, Sion vs Zoe. Only one adc and even this one was lucky pull with only 20% chance
What world are you in? Do you always play only premade to secure your picks? 90% of new mode games i played were adc or similar, and we lost hilariously by mages who poked us to death
Indigo47 (EUW)
: Trolls have made me cry a couple of times, i admit it!
This game mostly consists of puberty havoc teens and younger players. It is immensely toxic and troll oriented and whatever you ask of people to do, they will do the opposite. Haven't seen such immature community in all my years of gaming in dozens of online games.
: Literary just from looking at your match history it is obvious that you are either not trying at all or are really bad. Going 2/18 and not buying a SINGLE control ward in the last 13 games doesn't really help you climb. You should stop %%%%%ing about your team when you are exactly the same.. yes, you are getting matched with people of your skill at the moment (if you would be better then them, you would climb). Gl.
This game mostly consists of puberty havoc teens and younger players. It is immensely toxic and troll oriented and whatever you ask of people to do, they will do the opposite. Haven't seen such immature community in all my years of gaming in dozens of online games.
Rioter Comments
: >Of course there is a problem with the feederbuster! Feeders are not punished properly in many cases. No "Riot defender" ever claimed anything else, I never said everything was alright. I literally acknowledged the problem only a few comments ago ... ---- Maybe you're not even reading what I'm saying, or you're just too focused on devaluing my arguments instead of actually listening. Why don't you understand a word of what I'm saying? {{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}}
Still waiting for your solution/suggestion to the problem. {{sticker:sg-lulu}} Do you think any solution would reach devs and if they share our oppinion?
KingKazoo (EUW)
: honors litterally mean nothing and the new honor system is a complete joke. i dont know the exact stats on it but to get even to honor 1 level 2 it take obserd amouts of honors. in fact because after my chat ban it tells you how many honors you got when you get a key. and at 60 honors i got a key and was still not even to the level 2. so what does it take 100 honors with 0 reports. as a jungler that simply WILL NOT HAPPEN people report you if they feed their lane and so you dont gank them. they report you for flamming when you tell them you cant help cuz their lane is 3 levels ahead with 3 items. ask them to farm and they tell you to go F@*^ yourself its flawed in a massive way. you could be the best on the team and friendly but if someone didnt like you at one point in the game..... boom report at the end
The jungler dream. It has become hard to ward, and play defensively if you are losing your lane, therefore making it prone to gank from your jungler. I have suggested for a new tutorial which includes much more than just basic training, and teaches players about FoW, Warding, Minimap Awareness, Trinkets, Builds, Countering, and overall positioning, kite and strategy. The suggestion of staged tutorial with rewards was met with downvotes and ridicule even if its skippable becouse: 1. Players who do not need this tutorial got angry others who complete it could get rewards 2. Players who do not wish to learn anything via tutorial and instead prefer losing countless games as learning experience got angry becouse they think tutorials are a grind and or insulting to their intelligence Out of 10 players nowadays up to gold, it is my oppinion that at least 6 will not know basics of this game, which results in very serious mistakes in the gameplay which than get flamed by other skilled players and trigger toxicity. But hey i dont know what im talking about, becouse there were so many replies the last time i mentioned this flaming/downvoting me, its like i suggested them to go clean their room or something, and not improve the community.
: When the new honor system launched, Riot put great emphasis on the fact that individual honors don't mean a lot. What matters is positive behavior, NOT the amount of honors you receive. ---- I would honor a bad performing player, if they are honorable.
The skins are gated by keys, keys are gated by toxicity, which is than again regulated by "behavior", it all fits nicely in a loop, except, people stopped caring about what they say and how they play, if only i can count the number of times people say to me daily: "report me" "i dont care" "another account" and you can imagine why they said that, well if you lack imagination becouse someone told them they might get reported if they do not stop being toxic, people rarely do, value of reports nowadays is similar to toilet paper.
Rugidios (EUW)
: Great response! I suggest people learn to use the mute button more often. Make it a personal rule to mute people as soon as they flame. I do not usually get tilted (im jungler) but meany times ill try to avoid helping that person in lane and thats not good for me or the team although personally ill think that the summoner does not deserve help. After getting in the habit it helped me a lot. I was able to forget fast what they said and focus on winning the game. You guys have to understand people make nasty comments all the time and for some its the only way they can feel better (Not a good enough excuse) but you can either let it consume you or embrace it and deal with it accordingly, they will most likely forget what they said after the game, in fact I have to force my self to remember to report them if I think it was that bad.
I can honestly say Jungle is VERY flaming succeptible, since everyone wants you to gank their lane, and people have no reasoning, they push their lane, dont ward die, and than after ask for gank or ??? you while you are ganking another lane. This happens so often.. i lost count, can predict which lane is gonna get ganked like premonition since i see who is missing where and FoW angles. Even after pinging 10 times, my teammates do not react at all, they just keep pushing.
Montazuma (EUW)
: What is warped about the personal perception a player has? Are we suppose to feel good about it being 50 / 50? Do you also find it warped if you buy a car that breaks down after starting it, as long as you know the next guy who bought the same car and it runs great most of the time? No offense, but trying to circumvent the reality by being political is best saved for campaigns, then again.., maybe that is your primary purpose. I didn't say banning players for a _single_ offense, I said players who **repeatedly** show they are verbally toxic, or have a history of deliberately trolling games. Now before you start typing the next campaign trail, seeing who is in fact intentionally ruining games isn't a task for Sherlock Holmes, in 9 / 10 cases it can be seen by the staggering 5 - 9k dmg done to enemy champions over the course of 30+min, with a cs count only rivalled by Riots own bots (Damage dealer scenario). I've had 8 games today I think, 2 of them was intentionally ruined by players just like I described, 3 games was ruined due to verbal abuse on either side. If we aren't going to go by personal experience which is what freakin matters to EVERY player (except you it seems), what do we go by?
I mentioned determining afkers by damage done to enemy champions/skills used on allies, but he thought its stupid, wait let me put it politely, not well consieved. Casual players play 3 games a week, they are lucky enough to get all of them without toxicity, and they flame downvote, troll and insult whomever posts toxicity exists here. On average ,when many games are played 50/50 is you will encounter toxicity in any form on high level matches which was said dozens of times #IS IMPOSSIBLE BECOUSE HOW DID THOSE TOXIC PLAYERS EVER REACH HIGH LEVELS IF REPORT SYSTEM IS FINE? We are here like some fools looking on how report system can be fixed and toxicity reduced, while RIOT is doing exactly what? Yes.
: Calling me harmful to the game is not only pretty insulting, I think it's safe to say that it's far from true. >For every solution you seem to have a problem. Raistlin is not offering solutions here, all I'm doing is pointing out that their vision of a good player behavior system isn't actually that great ... Their comments and threads are hardly solutions, they are mostly rants and strawman arguments. >I would class you also as a troll I asked them to properly think about how their idea would pan out, because it's easy to think getting rid of toxicity is something you can do in one afternoon if you're not really thinking about it. > you might bring 1 good point or valid point out of 100 but youre here just to argue. I'd like to think more of my points are valid. If I write comments like this, they're based on my knowledge about Player Behavior and educated evaluations of the problems we're facing. And since this is a discussion platform, most people are here to argue.
No, you are here to argue and provoke, what is your solution to fixing toxicity? But i think you will say there is no problem to fix.. Meanwhile Report system is so flawed anyone with half a brain can troll and dodge it, afking, inting and assisting enemy team is more and more present and ruining peoples games, it is much worse than anyone who is not playing actively thinks.
KingKazoo (EUW)
: i think you're one of the problems in the game.... you have no reason to help or even want to strive towards an option of making this better. For every solution you seem to have a problem. I would class you also as a troll actually knowing that youre having this argument just to make this person frustrated. you might bring 1 good point or valid point out of 100 but youre here just to argue.
Half the seniors here abuse their postion to try and trigger and or troll others and they always ask for "proof" they keep spamming "proof" forever, even after you provide it. There is no point of all this anyhow, Riot admins never read these threads, we got these "Seniors" to show us how not to moderate forums, and thats all. Sometimes comments and threads are deleted and that is peak of response from Riot side. Not related but i just had two ~0/20's in Aram, they just ran straight into tower. Oh and there was this #kill your self capital letters only, clan we were against ,was matched like 3 times w them. Charming fellas. Before that teemo in normal used W to rush and test how much he can feed in 5min window. All is well. Its prolly just my bad experience, everyone else is having amasing games :) https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRhR7Y0nDYcgMM0fGrYwVBl3TcKg49Dss0L-FIyXteWFnmWdRRscQ
: Yeah I know inters exist, alright? ... **Of course** there is a problem with the feederbuster! Feeders are not punished properly in many cases. No "Riot defender" ever claimed anything else, I never said everything was alright. What are you trying to say? ---- >making it more strict overall How do you think this is gonna work? Riot can't just flip a switch, increase a value in the code, and suddenly all inters and flamers will be removed. How are you going to create a machine learning system which accurately identifies unwanted behavior?
"AFK"- make this damage/skill dependant, not distance traveled, if player did not assist teammates or killed x minions in last 5 min, he is afk, and there is no excuse. "inting"-make this damage given/received dependant, if a player is actually attacking ,his teammates can use that to their advantage even if he is inting, but if he is just standing still.. yeah took 1min for this, Riot has experts ,i am pretty sure they can think of something more advanced in few hours, script and implement it in a week but yeah.. excuses
: Here's the secret: The enjoyment you get from something does not solely depend on the thing in question. I don't enjoy playing tennis, does that mean nobody is allowed to have fun with it? --- League of Legends is an amazing game, Riot's production quality is always amazing, and I've never been part of such a passionate community. There are many awesome social interactions you can have in the game! I've met great people, and love joking around with random strangers, even if it's just for one game. **Why don't you ever have these games?** Well maybe it's because you seem to have an incredibly cynical attitude. You're not going to engage small talk, you're not going to compliment a player on a good move. Because you made it pretty clear what you think of the community. _ If you act like everyone here is a toxic dirtbag, you're not going to see anything else._
You couldn't be any more wrong. I had amasing games when i premade with 3-4 other players i know are good and reliable people. And we had incredible strategies and discussions about combos and not game related but about movies, other games and so on. I have had honors in almost each game i played and i have given as many. But almost every game i do not premade a disaster happens. I do not think people are that much masochistic to enjoy toxic teammates often as league of legends has them, i am not saying everyone here is bad. #I am saying majority of your playerbase is toxic Most of the good and smart ones, went towards other games, after 2 breaks all of the good people i had in my friendlist went permanently offline each time, and they never returned. Riot production quality is that they stole almost entire design from DOTA 2 but attracted more players becouse of shiny colors and arcady gameplay but that is not relevant, what is, that they do not care about their community as much as they should.
: >The system is messed up, i got 14 days ban without any warrning for 3 words of flaming towards other toxic players This means that what you wrote was considered a Zero Tolerance phrase. If you display severe toxicity like racism, homophobia, deathwishes etc. Riot isn't gonna bother with warnings. It's a 14-day ban, and a perma on the next offense. ---- >these things happen close to every single game i have They don't, of course blaming and mild toxicity is way too frequent, but you are exaggerating quite a bit. >The Report System needs to be MUCH more strict than it is now. But you just complained about getting banned without a warning? You're saying others should be treated stricter, but not yourself.
> This means that what you wrote was considered a Zero Tolerance phrase. Created a new account, played on it without ever being toxic, get matched with 2 players who are inting 3 games in a row. WTF They got reported after each game by us and sometimes even enemy team, they were NOT banned. Do you want the names? Last game i played, dude with teemo spammed W to feed as many kills as possible first 5min, i know you RIOT defenders are crazy for proof, so check my last post and you will see all the juicy images. He feeds in his games and has multiple accounts to do it. But irony is he was not banned anyway to even use his other account yet.. You know when i talk with RIOT defenders and supporters, no matter the amount of proof you can see all over player behavior sections in all regions, you still deny anything is wrong. **Its like you guys want this game to fail instead of actually putting ANY effort into fixing it by further improving report system and making it more strict overall, providing feedback of what changes were made towards improving it ,and returning report notifications.**
: >it's getting worse and worse by the (day?) season What do you base this on, your own observation? That's hardly accurate, we are all influenced by warped perception and biases. Take the negativity bias for example ... You can never get rid of toxicity completely, that would be an unrealistic goal. But instantly permabanning people for one offense isn't gonna help, the system is already fairly harsh.
The system is messed up, i got 14 days ban without any warrning for 3 words of flaming towards other toxic players, while people who write things like: "%%%%%%" "i will r4pe your family after i kill them" "no0b" "m0r0n" "ret4rd" require ridiculous amount of reports to get removed becouse the system dodges them these things happen close to every single game i have Please explain how are these guys not permabanned even before they reached lvl 30??? What are they doing in high level competetive games? And not to even start with trolling and inting, that is off the hook, just open any player behavior thread and open your eyes. #The Report System needs to be MUCH more strict than it is now. or honestly this game will get traded for BR games and other mobas, or overwatch, it wont even be a slow trade, your playerbase will just drop hard as it most likely is for the past few months
: Goodbye League!
The real issue here is #Why are toxic players even allowed to reach high levels?
: Well I'm not gonna try to convince you, I believe you're able to decide if League is good for you or not. If you're not having fun here anymore, this might be a good time to quit. But if you still enjoy the game, like you said you do, I think you shouldn't see this as the end of the world ... You snapped and said some nasty things, that surely was a mistake, but it doesn't have to dictate the future. In a few months, this won't mean anything. Your account won't be marked forever, people won't treat you differently because of a past mistake. --- You can learn from the mistake and improve instead of dropping everything because it went wrong.
How do you enjoy a game with the most toxic community in entire online gaming, please explain, what is there to enjoy ? Truly ONLY times i actually feel this is league of legends is when i premade 4 or 5 with my friends, which are not always online, and we have a smooth game.(But even than that 5th player ,or someone from enemy team can get toxic) Right now 1/2 of my games contain a sort of toxicity, and not just verbal, players run around being "Afk" ,or feed by playing recklessly out of grief but so that they are not spotted by report system, or even inting as of lately becouse it takes ridiculous amount of reports to ban them. Proof? My previous post. #This game days are numbered, that is honest truth and if riot continues to refuses in #making bans more rigorous they will lose a bulk of playerbase to other popular online games, which are numerous right now
: If you play consistently well you will climb. I started preseason at silver 4, season at s3, g4 currently and climbing. Jungle main btw.
#REDUCE TOXICITY ! #BUFF UP BANS ! How do you climb when players are inting or afking in your team?
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