Thornhub (EUW)
: That's not accurate at all. Say it as it is. Be brave and post your chat log about what you are referring to. You probably called them a name or two.
Papa Muerte (EUNE)
: But, see, in reality, that, is why the system, is so rigged. The one who will not ward ( because it makes progress to the game being won ) is the right one ? How ? No how. False. And the system defends the egoistic " know it all's " report that and that, Little spoiled Brats. WHY WOULD WE, THE SMART PEOPLE, THE SMART PLAYERS KEEP OUR SELF IN WHILE THEY ARE THERE, FREELY DOING WHAT EVER THEY WANT ? This is rigged. The good players, are Forced to not write a thing, because we know. The "emotionals" get's triggered like, literally, anything ? And yes, the system is against the smart's Oh well. smart enough to not play it anymore.
I don't get what you're saying. Honestly xd
Pixelbits (EUW)
: Riot support told me that even asking someone to do X, Y or Z is considered an offense. Every action is considered "flaming/toxic" these days. _Me: "Support, could you please ward the bush?" Support: "Stop flaming me" > "/all Report my ADC for flaming"_ This system is rigged, since 4 premade team can report you and it will be picked up by the system.
No it wont, it would just make the bot check your messages, if you didn't flame you won't get banned. Getting premade reported and banned is a myth.
HercaZ (EUNE)
: Ahaha man you are the one who is lost in his perception on the world :DD You even state something like "I know I am right.." self righteous to the core lol... You just got a 100% righteous slap to your face by your own medicine and you are accusing me of being out of touch with reality :D That`s bloody funny man... This is lack of your maturity showing of, the guys who were doing those horrible crimes to humanity acted in the very same way you do man... They knew they were right in doing so and they did because they believed its right to do... It has nothing to do to holocaust or my personal troubles, it has to do with your attitude towards the problems we all are related to... I can compare that to anything I want, if you have double standards based on the level of problems, then there is nothing to discus with you because you talk whatever you want to talk and you act whatever the way you want to act, a typical troll example...
Whatever you say buddy, some of you need to get out of that room and do something.
Rioter Comments
HercaZ (EUNE)
: You know what funny is? The Jew killing was legal... So indeed they were toxic AF and they were just complaining about legal things... Damn those Jews... Sure I can compare it... Cant I? Why ? You just said it above "stating the truth is being toxic.."
Lmao you are so out of touch with reality, its hard to even read this... If you're comparing your "troubles" with the holocaust you are literally either trolling or the most entitled spoiled brat I have ever seen. Just chill out man... I know I am right, and I am not going to indulge you muffins any more.
HercaZ (EUNE)
: Jews were complaining about Hitler in WW2 killing them and so.. Damn those Jews were toxic AF... right? right??
LMAO you guys are trolling, you can't compare these situations...
: If you have time to review replay of my game and tell me what I did wrong/could do better.
Don't pick late game champions, pick champions that do well in all stages of the game. Relying on late game, especially in this meta, it is a bad choice.
: Am I crazy or what
Make a new account, start fresh. It helped me so much, helped me reset my rank and see whether I actually improved or not. Also you think you are stuck but generally, people who keep their rank consistent across season improve, something a coach named LS talked about.
WearteX92 (EUW)
: armor so weak compared to magic resistance
Auto attack champions are pretty much dead at this moment, except if they have built in true dmg, like yi or vayne.
Domectos (EUW)
: Its not being toxic, its just stating the facts. This game is ***king shit.
Exactly, you're just stating the truth, I'm doing the same, y'all are toxic af
: Well I've uninstalled this nonsensical game now for the last time. And yes, I am gonna complain about this stupid ƒuck game because it is ugly and disgusting, and it deserves to be called a useless piece of $hit game.
: ***
Whats the point? Other than being toxic?
Shamose (EUW)
: Prestige Neckbringer Lee Sin
: This game is completely disgusting.
Why are you playing if you don't want to play and you don't like it either? Is it just to complain?
: Thanks for everything. Good bye.
8 cs per minute, really low ward and pink ward count, not to mention you're inconsistent with your damage dealt. CS and KDA don't mean anything... You also have to think about how much you teamfight, just because the botlane has 50 less cs than their laner counterpart doesn't mean it's their fault either. They could have been camped, or its a really tough matchup where they're expected to lose. Also playing mid, and having your botlane lose early turret means its arams mid lane, so it wasn't exactly their fault either. I've seen a few games in your history where, you will have 9 cs per 10 minutes, but the adc or the mid lane who has less cs and stats have 2 times more damage then you do. Arams aren't there to be primarily tryharded so I don't think you can complain about that. Matchmaking is annoying right now but you are far from perfect.
CJXander (EUNE)
: Why is this even allowed?
but why none of you communicated and swapped?
: Message notification
: Do we all feel about Riot the same way? Lol.
Dvs Hexler (EUNE)
: Intenional/Unintentional Losing Streaks
: I don't work for Riot. Let's clear that up. I'm another player like you that happens to spend time on the boards and helps out here. I'm not matching you with anyone, I don't work for Riot, get paid (RITO PLS) by them, or have anything to do with them outside of playing the game really. Those people are going to end up in someones game, and if your elo happens to be around low silver or bronze, that means that you'll likely run into them - as this seems to be the average entry / skill point for people. They have to enter somewhere as well. But there's no conspiracy against you - they're not actively seeking to make you lose (that doesn't make sense - you're more likely to get frustrated and quit if they rigged you to lose all the time), and nothing within the matchmaking has really changed. It's just super noticeable because it's the start of a new season - you have a massive influx of people playing at the same time, meaning that there's a larger pool of people from lower to higher levels to be grouped with.
He probably just means that if you play good, you will get high mmr but will still get the reset whip on you and start a low ranking division. So why would people try getting good mmr when it's easier to climb from lower mmr. Thats my thought on why people are frustrated with all the trolls at the beginning of the season. For example I got plat mmr, but started in silver 1. So why would i make it hard on myself since I'll get Silver 1 either way. I could not try as hard, still get the same division but climb easier with lower mmr slowly. Does that make sense?
Get Juk3d (EUNE)
: I love league of Legends, I hate league of legends
When people love something, they shit on it if its bad to make the devs fix it. If we just shout very very very very loudly, MAYBE the riot will fix some long standing issues. I am one of those.
: Friends List Sorter for Cross Region
I wonder if its going to break the client even more, can't wait.
: If you really want to troll low elo, then you have to tread a fine line. You would have to balance hard wins with hard losses, win too many games and you get put in smurf queues. Otherwise if you are a low elo player looking for game play, why not get stomped and learn from it??
Not really, you can soft int promos for loss, you can do what you want the whole game, as long as you can somehow die to enemy team 5 times with your shutdown gold this is pretty enough to tilt your team and give the enemy a lead. Plus Riot can't detect it that easy. I haven't tested it out but thats my general thinking. As long as you don't win your promos, I don't think you would promote. You might get good mmr, but you will stay where you are, I might be wrong.
ExoIce (EUW)
: And what does this smurf detection system use to detect smurfs? Does this mean if I play really well my performance will dictate who I play agaisnt. So let's say I am clearly above my peers I shall get matched with other smurf silvers that will make my climbing harder?
That's what happened to me after placements, platinum mmr, still in silver 1 :\ Literally tough to get out. Maybe I have to soft int to get lower mmr, its gonna be easier to climb if Riot actually thinks I am silver.
: Riot has smurf detecton, it doesnt take long for smurfs to picked up and get put into queues with each other. This game is 10 years old, there are not that many fresh innocent new players.
It doesn't work because the games are already ruined. Like I said, smurfs can have multiple accounts and no matter how long it takes to be detected, the games will still be ruined. Couple that with the fact that no one in higher elo cares about being high rank so why not play a few games really poorly and just secure your silver mmr. Then you can pretty much do what you want for longer in lower elo. And you still would need to pass promos, so you can troll those too and make them auto loss. Making you able to never climb and be stuck there on purpose just to have fun. Does that make sense? Idk if I explained it very well.
Art Dekum (EUW)
: Client friend list bugged for a week or smt now...
mistry (EUW)
: But your individual skill is taken into consideration... If you consistently play well and impact your games you do climb. Did I reach diamond because I had a bunch of lucky games in a row? No its because I took the time to learn different aspects of the game and improve which gave me the advantage over the other players in my games. How do you know that you analysis of your own gameplay is accurate? How do you know if you're playing well? What does playing well even mean? I understand it's frustrating not being able to understand why you just cannot seem to gain any LP, but you need to stop looking for excuses and be critical of your own gameplay.
True but, it only matters if you are like high high elo and you can pretty much dominate up until diamond mmr. However, the downside of nobody caring about their rank means that more people start smurfing to just have fun. And when you get smurfs on both teams games become coinflip since people who have lower mmr get even less influence on the outcome, and it becomes the battle of the 2 smurfs on each team. Which can sometimes be funny to see the 2 people on opposite teams who kinda know they are the smurfs and start having fun with lower mmr players.
ExoIce (EUW)
: Climbing a Broken ladder in Ranked - Solo/duo
Kinda agree, but I don't know the tech behind it that much. I think they have enough data to do it, they probably don't want to change anything being afraid to mess with the "formula". Didn't they try a semi new mmr system in NA and it got bombarded with negative feedback. Where it would autofill certain roles too much, like jungle. Was pretty common that no one gets their main role or something like that.
Rioter Comments
: League client issues
1. The last message I sent to my friends switches over like they said it, and gets sent every time you open the client. 2. Friends have no profile pictures.
: How do you farm midgame when your team is ARAM-ing?
You cant. One turret falls and it's arams. And if you go farm solo other lane, they ping you for not teamfighting as 50cs jinx or twitch.
: > [{quoted}](name=Rat from Mars,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=TEnGlOEY,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2020-01-12T01:44:30.761+0000) > > "Expressing your thoughts" yeah right, you just wanted to flame the guy and be exempt from the rules. Once you make an account with riot, there's this thing called Terms of Service, read into that. If you make an account you agree to the terms of service. You claim to have the lawful right, well riot does too, they have the right to ban your ass for breaching that terms of service. Dont make this a freedom of speech thing or hate speech, its just your flame. > They lose hundreds, but gain tens of thousands, you think they care? > > Riot said this many times, and I will say it again: Just because someone trolls, doesn't mean it gives you permission to talk to them and shit talk them the whole game. In my experience it's just not worth it. Not even worth giving attention, because they feed off of it. Just ignore him, one bad game and all that crap. > > Once you get into that habit, it won't even matter to you anymore. Just mute his chat, his pings and emotes. Let him run it down 20 times and you won't see him again since, like you said you're average player, and the chances of meeting that same player are so low. So, hypothetically, if I could kill you trough in-game chat and police could 100% prove that it was me, I wouldn't be responsible cuz it's not listed within the terms?
If it wasn't in the TOS, riot couldn't ban you from using their services for that. BUT, you would answer to the law. And what the law does to you is something else. One does not include or exclude the other. You could spam racial slurs ingame and riot would ban you, but the police of your country wouldn't do anything I think. Now if you do something very damaging and illegal, Riot would ban you AND the police could get involved. I don't know if you're trolling or not soo whatever. That was a random analogy that made no sense.
: > [{quoted}](name=Rat from Mars,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=TEnGlOEY,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-12T12:31:19.346+0000) > > Exactly, people don't get that what they call "human rights" is just a right to shit talk someone. And TOS says you can't flame someone, and riot can and will ban you for that. Shit talking is concequence not cause, read the thread again, and again, and again.
CAN YOU STOP ACTING ALL HURT AND CRYING "WAH WAH THEY TOOK MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH" STOP. No they didn't, they didn't censor "freedom of expression" If I go to a court room, and I start spewing shit, you bet your ass the judge would punish me. Freedom of speech isn't able to give you the right to be toxic to someone. If you really want to debate this read what are the exceptions of freedom of speech. (Cited from https://lawshelf.com/videos/entry/freedom-of-speech-exceptions-categories-of-speech-not-protected ) > While freedom of speech is one of the most sacrosanct freedoms in American history, there are a variety of exceptions to the general principle that speech is protected under the First Amendment. We will discuss six such categories: > - Incitement > - Fighting Words > - Obscenity > - Defamation > - Commercial Speech > - Cases in which freedom of speech is outweighed by an even more compelling interest So for you: Fighting words and obscenity (probably). You call that "freedom of expression" or "freedom of speech", yeah well Riot calls it toxic and bannable behavior. I agree with them, despite being punished myself a few times. Nobody is protecting riot or something, kissing their ass or whatever. It's just you being all toxic and acting like it's your human right to be toxic. Now sure, people troll, and they get away with it, but it's really hard to prove that someone trolled with intention. This has been a long long debate during the life of the game but still, it's easier to prove when someone flamed you than someone trolled you. I agree this is an issue, but read up on the issue instead of trying to justify your behavior as being totally okay. Terms of Service does not give YOU the right to flame the %%%% out of someone, just because they trolled you. In real life this wouldn't work either. Just because someone stole from you and got away with it, doesn't give you the permission to personally hurt them. It just doesn't. You are supposed to contact Riot, maybe send a ticket, and if they punish them, they punish them. That's pretty much all you can do. The rest is wasting your time and your mental health on the person that is maybe having a bad day, maybe he doesn't know how to play. And you use that as an excuse to hurt him. NOW, I FULLY AGREE, that I am emotional sometimes, and I do flame when it gets really heated in game. BUT I do not call it just and exempt from the TOS. I don't know if you actually read the TOS but here ya go buddy! ( https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/legal/termsofuse ) Most notably (iii, v, xiv), of which you are or could be guilty of. And before you start trying to debate your way out of this, you clearly are guilty of breaching (v), and arguments can be made for (xiv) and maybe (iii) if i get your real chat messages. READ THROUGH, SHUT UP, DONT DEBATE, YOU WERE A BAD BOI, YOU GOT PUNISHED... I got chat restricted recently too, because I flamed someone, do you see me complaining about it? NO. I breached TOS, I get punished, thats the way the world works. Are you okay though? Been a week almost and you're still on this issue... > "5. CODE OF CONDUCT > Can I troll, flame, threaten or harass people while using the Riot Services? (No. If you do, you might get banned.) > While using the Riot Services, you must comply with all laws, rules and regulations in the jurisdiction in which you reside. You must also comply with certain additional rules that govern your use of the Riot Services (the “Code of Conduct”). The Code of Conduct is not meant to be exhaustive, and we reserve the right to modify it at any time, as well as take appropriate disciplinary measures including account termination and deletion to protect the integrity and spirit of the Riot Services, regardless of whether a specific behavior is listed in the policy as inappropriate. In addition to the Code of Conduct, please review the Summoner’s Code for additional guidance on exemplary gameplay behavior. > > The following are examples of behavior that warrant disciplinary measures: > > i. Impersonating any person, business or entity, including an employee of Riot Games, or communicating in any way that makes it appear that the communication originates from Riot Games; > > ii. Posting identifying information about yourself or other players to the Website or within the Game; > > iii. Harassing, stalking or threatening other players while using the Riot Services; > > iv. Removing, altering or concealing any copyright, trademark, patent or other proprietary rights notice of Riot Games contained in the Website, the Game and/or the Software. You also may not transmit content that violates or infringes the rights of others, including patent, trademark, trade secret, copyright, publicity, personal rights or other rights; > > v. Transmitting or communicating any content which, in the sole and exclusive discretion of Riot Games, is deemed offensive, including language that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, sexually explicit, or racially, ethically, or otherwise objectionable; > > vi. Transmitting or facilitating the transmission of any content that contains a virus, corrupted data, trojan horse, bot keystroke logger, worm, time bomb, cancelbot or other computer programming routines that are intended to and/or actually damage, detrimentally interfere with, surreptitiously intercept or mine, scrape or expropriate any system, data or personal information; > > vii. Spamming chat, whether for personal or commercial purposes, by disrupting the flow of conversation with repeated postings; > > viii. Participating in any action which, in the sole and exclusive judgment of Riot Games, defrauds any other user of the Game, including by scamming or social engineering; > > ix. Using any unauthorized third party programs, including mods, hacks, cheats, scripts, bots, trainers and automation programs that interact with the Software in any way, for any purpose, including any unauthorized third party programs that intercept, emulate, or redirect any communication between the Software and Riot Games and any unauthorized third party programs that collect information about the Game by reading areas of memory used by the Software to store information; > > x. Accessing or attempting to access areas of the Game or Game servers that have not been made available to the public; > > xi. Selecting a Summoner name that is falsely indicative of an association with Riot Games, contains personally identifying information, or that is offensive, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, sexually explicit, racially, ethnically, or otherwise objectionable. You may not use a misspelling or an alternative spelling to circumvent this restriction on Summoner name choices. Riot Games may modify any name which, in the sole and exclusive judgment of Riot Games, violates this provision, without notification to you, and may take further disciplinary measures, including account termination for repeated violations; > > xii. Logging out or exiting the Game during live game-play. Riot Games’ automated Leaverbuster® system tracks this data over time and issues a temporary ban when a user is determine to have left mid-game too many times. The length of the temporary ban will increase over time if a particular account continues to leave live game play; > > xiii. Playing on another person’s account to “boost” that account’s status or rank; or > > xiv. Inducing or encouraging others to violate this Code of Conduct or the terms of this Agreement."
: > [{quoted}](name=cost of lies,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=lPyom8ii,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2020-01-12T12:32:19.165+0000) > > That's exactly my point, it places me in silver, and I play with platinum players. You see the problem in that? no, you play in platinum mmr the placement games because you wear platinum last season, after the 10 games if you remain silver you will play with silvers
that's not fair honestly.
: Your visual rank its get reset not the mmr, you were platinum so you played with platinum, just divisions got reset. Last year you played with silvers, I assume because you were gold before, maybe gold with silver mmr
That's exactly my point, it places me in silver, and I play with platinum players. You see the problem in that?
Semaka (EUW)
: Riot's TOS is Riot's TOS, human rights are human rights. When you play Riot's product, you play it according to their TOS. Riot's TOS is a contract. You sign it, you don't respect it, you get punished according to the contract that you have signed.
Exactly, people don't get that what they call "human rights" is just a right to shit talk someone. And TOS says you can't flame someone, and riot can and will ban you for that.
: Since i see you are new , this is how it works after the season reset, you never start at your prev. rank . Will give you an advice , never play at the first week of season reset. Good luck {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}}
"New"... I've been playing for 8 years. If it was like the last season reset, I would start playing with silvers, win a couple of games, depending on how good you played you could get high mmr, and it would at the end of your placements give you a rank based on your mmr. This season its like, here's a really low rank silver 2, no matter your mmr, so you get 30 lp (in my instance) for a win, in plat mmr. I have 7 games left im silver 1 0lp currently. If I won all of them that would be 210 lp more or less. 2 divisions? While playing in high plat mmr or low diamond. There's no way I can win 6 games in a row at that high of mmr. If it's truly my mmr that I belong to, I am gonna %%%%ing peak at silver 1 in placements because its harder to win the higher you go. That's my problem, it places you lower than it should be but your matchmaking is super high. Your chances of winning go down, and the rank given to you is low. If it started at like gold 2 rank I wouldn't mind, since thats a lot less of a gap where I ended last season, but silver %%%%ing 2? I haven't been silver since season 6..... 3 years ago... Imagine you're a diamond player with 50% winrate, and you get this shit, where you're placed in gold, and you can't win games to improve your rank because hey, diamond mmr buddy. I have a friend on OCE who got placed Iron 4, even tho last season they ended in silver last season. 2 divisions of a gap. It's just that it feels like its artificially lowered to make you play more games.
: RITO THE FUQ
>But why the fuq would you ban me for expressing my thoughts, which happen to be negative, which is my lawful right? "Expressing your thoughts" yeah right, you just wanted to flame the guy and be exempt from the rules. Once you make an account with riot, there's this thing called Terms of Service, read into that. If you make an account you agree to the terms of service. You claim to have the lawful right, well riot does too, they have the right to ban your ass for breaching that terms of service. Dont make this a freedom of speech thing or hate speech, its just your flame. >Till you fix that sht, you will lose, and continue to lose, hundreds and thousands of players that think like me. They lose hundreds, but gain tens of thousands, you think they care? Riot said this many times, and I will say it again: Just because someone trolls, doesn't mean it gives you permission to talk to them and shit talk them the whole game. In my experience it's just not worth it. Not even worth giving attention, because they feed off of it. Just ignore him, one bad game and all that crap. Once you get into that habit, it won't even matter to you anymore. Just mute his chat, his pings and emotes. Let him run it down 20 times and you won't see him again since, like you said you're average player, and the chances of meeting that same player are so low.
Exzoe (EUW)
: Riot your placement games is the biggest joke, %%%% off
Lmao, I got placed my first game in Silver 2, while playing in plat mmr, where i dominated :) FEELS %%%%ING SAD MAN
: Gaining no lp in placements
Lucky you, I have plat MMR, starting silver 2 as well. Seems artificially lowered, inticing you to play more games.
Rioter Comments
: friends list gone
It's not recognized by riot even, that sucks.... status is still clean...
: After thousands of hours played and hundreds of pounds spent, Riot decided to permanently ban me
Well, yeah.... If you broadcast your account info and it gets used for cheating, bye bye. It makes sense, otherwise i could let my friend hack and I wont lose the account.
Fynne (EUW)
: Bottom lane is a complete fiesta now
Why do you complain about them being weak? You get 1500 gold for free AND items for free.....
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: Honestly, i wouldn't trust it If riot would do something like that, they would announce it in a post etc
: lmao so just reply than and you will see. Type in random info (not real one)
Well, it asks me to click the link.
Rioter Comments
: What did you get as your legendary skin?
Project Vayne across 3 or 4 accounts .-.
: give me your account
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