RayleighTT (EUNE)
: This is a sign i need to not anymore play this game
Please downvote me if i am not right but you would permanent ban someone for this , considering he stayed 3 months chill without to say anything wrong and keeped try to share just positive behaviour ... , is nothing normal to this ... , i don't see why someone would deserve permanent ban and to leave this game for such small stuffs ,but this is okey ,i anyway planned to leave this game i buyed some steam games , i can afford to b accounts as others does .. , but i still have 2-3 accounts lv 30 + so i am stay chill idc about my jinx skins etc... i anyway wanted to not anymore play her... , cause she is too weak and no one anymore play something else than kai'sa xayah world's championship... , also i wasn't getting ranked rewards so i really not feel like i am punished and there is nothing i can learn about , i may did mistakes in past but being punished for something that could almost no offend anyone is really pointless.. I been banned for criticism , i learn from it and never did it again all the year worked on that , and now i am banned for something i don't understand what was wrong , i am punished for asking someone to play normal ?? and to do his support role job is criticism again guess.. , i am not having time to analys what i write while i gameplay ,is not like i have 3 minuts to write , i do quick message so thanks anyway for making me think some kind different it will be something i can use to gameplay in silent and have fun while playing some other games , maybe who knows this character build will help me become a better person under presure and when others are insulting me. I been really throught all the stuffs , and been toxic swearing before permanent bans punishments appear , then i modify my behaviour , then i modify it again as well as i was playing i keeped improve it ,but you still get permanent banned even if you changed almost 95 % your behaviour is still toxic , and that's too wrong and is a concern for people who still play the game and have just some small problems in them behaviour , there is no perfect human , and most of us aren't but does anyone will understand if riot ain't understand that there no one can be 100% positive neutral no mather of what... , there is not just me there are many others who can't be perfect and they don't deserve to be kicked out from game with permanent bans for trying and trying again to share positive behaviour even if the games constantly are filled up with negative behaviour of any kind , while there are more many players who shared more bad behaviour than me i taking this likely unfair for all of you who want this game to become positive ,because i may not be perfect but i may help you to get more quality games without to criticism and flame you or your gameplay )
: Are you seriously unable to deal with the fact that no one is plotting against you? What would be their reason? "Too keep things equal" If you are that good you shouldn't be concerned with climbing at all. You would just get into a better league with better opponents and things would be equal. If they would give you worse teammates than in the enemy team on purpose that would mean that it is a very uneven match. Also the poor ADCs that would get crushed by you every game because they have to play against a god that is not allowed to leave their ELO. If you are consistently winning lane but not the game, yes your teammates play a role but this also indicates that you're mid to late game skills aren't as good as your early game skill. Like positioning in teamfights, target select or very importantly where to be on the map. I'm not trying to go against you here. You just have to stop trying to convince yourself that there is an obscure system against you. Because there is not and there are still things you can get better at to improve your winrate and make climbing easier.
> [{quoted}](name=Global Noc Out,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=qdQZVoi9,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-05T18:04:39.615+0000) > > Are you seriously unable to deal with the fact that no one is plotting against you? What would be their reason? "Too keep things equal" If you are that good you shouldn't be concerned with climbing at all. You would just get into a better league with better opponents and things would be equal. If they would give you worse teammates than in the enemy team on purpose that would mean that it is a very uneven match. Also the poor ADCs that would get crushed by you every game because they have to play against a god that is not allowed to leave their ELO. > If you are consistently winning lane but not the game, yes your teammates play a role but this also indicates that you're mid to late game skills aren't as good as your early game skill. Like positioning in teamfights, target select or very importantly where to be on the map. > I'm not trying to go against you here. You just have to stop trying to convince yourself that there is an obscure system against you. Because there is not and there are still things you can get better at to improve your winrate and make climbing easier. it don't have to be a reason ,it just have to be a problem who they should fix ,but as long as people like you don't consider this a problem they will not pay attention to it .
Rioter Comments
: I'm sorry to inform you that there is noone targeting you with bad teammates. Everyone who is in your ELO gets the the same teams and if they are good enough they climb up and if they are not they won't. This shows how good you are. If you think you are good enough just keep playing and you will climb. You will win enough games that the lost won't matter just like anyone else who climbed up.
> [{quoted}](name=Global Noc Out,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=qdQZVoi9,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-05T14:55:01.776+0000) > > I'm sorry to inform you that there is noone targeting you with bad teammates. Everyone who is in your ELO gets the the same teams and if they are good enough they climb up and if they are not they won't. This shows how good you are. If you think you are good enough just keep playing and you will climb. You will win enough games that the lost won't matter just like anyone else who climbed up. you must be joking right now :| You tell me that i have 1000 games ranked on jinx this season and i am fu234234 su23 cause this look like that , my elo idk what you talking about , i played with my friend who were plat IV and more than this and there aren't good players neither in plat , don't take me like is my fault that this matchmaking system hit me like that almost all the time with such teams , they unbalance my games because i am otp jinx player and i am playing very good , so they unbalance my team to keep thinghs equal , what that mean i get more likely 124pid team mates so they make the game fair and balanced , that's not sound unfair not ?? , you know i been 25 games ahead with wins regarding number of games played with 60 % winrate on jinx ... in gold , got that high mmr that they just drop me with 50 games lossed in row , so i got like more losses than winned games ,and is really fair... I am totally not joking or anything and i am definetly neither close to any gold or low platinum plays.
MadEclair (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=RayleighTT,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=60EAayyL,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-11-03T20:20:28.601+0000) > > ofc in high tiers is less flame cause there aren't that many people who play bad and who don't use advices and criticism https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/7/7d/Wahaha_Emote.png/revision/latest?cb=20180731211711 This is probably the wildest assumption I saw on boards. _High Elo_ is as toxic as it can get. Remember Tyler1? He's no ordinary bronze. Same for many infamous streamers like consensualclown, L9, A WILD DADDY, RAT IRL, Tarzaned, PornstarZilean and more I can't be bothered to name. > what's that honor level for you ... You literally cited the reason behind it in the beginning of your post: _"When we look at the most successful Ranked players, they’re the ones who can stay cool under pressure, lead their teams in difficult circumstances, and work together to win games."_ To simply put it - regular punishment was not enough. Sure, 10 games chat restriction might be slightly annoying and puts you on another step on perma ban ladder but most people does not care because after those 10 games it'll be gone. If people were civil and took the punishment to heart and stopped flaming, there would be no need for such thing as dishonourable status and stripping players from this year's season awards. Just ask yourself, if you were to be punished just by chat restriction alone, would you still work hard to change the way you're behaving? Because I doubt so.
> [{quoted}](name=MadEclair,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=60EAayyL,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-11-04T12:01:56.646+0000) > > https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/7/7d/Wahaha_Emote.png/revision/latest?cb=20180731211711 > > This is probably the wildest assumption I saw on boards. > _High Elo_ is as toxic as it can get. Remember Tyler1? He's no ordinary bronze. Same for many infamous streamers like consensualclown, L9, A WILD DADDY, RAT IRL, Tarzaned, PornstarZilean and more I can't be bothered to name. > > You literally cited the reason behind it in the beginning of your post: > _"When we look at the most successful Ranked players, they’re the ones who can stay cool under pressure, lead their teams in difficult circumstances, and work together to win games."_ > > To simply put it - regular punishment was not enough. Sure, 10 games chat restriction might be slightly annoying and puts you on another step on perma ban ladder but most people does not care because after those 10 games it'll be gone. > If people were civil and took the punishment to heart and stopped flaming, there would be no need for such thing as dishonourable status and stripping players from this year's season awards. Just ask yourself, if you were to be punished just by chat restriction alone, would you still work hard to change the way you're behaving? Because I doubt so. you doubt what ??? , i been throught lot's of situations this year , i played over 1000 games ranked ... , more than this , i am really sorry but there is not such good behaviour and such quality games in gold as there may be in platinum etc... , you don't understand my position i played all the year most of the time solo, and get some wins playing with my plat Iv friend who was likely criticism me for doing some mistakes , i was like a good player before i get into this gold hell again .. , i really can leave gold at any moment if i decide to play it again serious , i stoped to give a 12421 about wins and i play for fun and is more likely showing up when i am staying chill ,and no consume myself. ,who cares anymore about platinum and other shit tiers , this garbage ranked rewards no worth damn shit now , you play all year for garbage rewards and you loss and that garbage rewards cause you miss behave , i say pass to this game , is not longer funny is no longer worth to be competitive . ,i rather use my left time to do something else or to try some other games{{sticker:vlad-salute}}
Rioter Comments
: a quick talk
no ranked rewards , no playing anymore this game ,ranked means all for veterans for all skilled players , no rewards , no playing again this game , Congrats riot , you should thanks riot for helping this game to don't be rewarded for staying positive 80% of the year , every time i got punished i managed to stay 3 months + chill and calm without to say so many stuffs inappropriate as soon as i was reaching honor 2 checkpoints 2-3 the problems started to appear you forget about punishments ,you don't get warned that your behaviour is starting get inappropriate , riot have no system implented to reduce toxicity ,such as match making regarding how people behave ,how often they play good and remains chill and calm when they loss they don't have this , and that dosn't help people change dosn't help them to behave good and stay positive , is same when you get 5-6 games loss streak after you loss so many games and meet lot's of toxic behaviour you keep get random teams with random skills with random behaviour is not promoting the way riot wants this game to become , more than this when you mix up the players who behave good in a bunch of games full of trollers and negative behaviour every day is a challenge to don't copy and fall into others negative behaviour to don't answer them back to don't ask for justice ,to don't be angry that this grinding ranked system no let's you advance based on skill cause many other stuffs can make you loss . League of legends is not and is not anymore the game i started to play 7 years ago when everyone tryed to learn it , some people have advantage from knowing the game ,some people don't , and they not even get stopped to play ranked , which result in a chaos ranked and match making and many other stuffs , it was funny and competitive when this game appear now is a bunch of salt and a game who's so damn really bad when comes about fun and playing ranked ,most of players no understand when is enought and they need to practice a lot .. , they do 4 18 and the next game is still on ranked ,who does stop them no one .. ,riot all time comed up with the text everyone have a bad game ,yeah then why most of players after having bad games not trying to train on normal games or warm up
Zeka Peka (EUNE)
: HONOR IS DESTROYING THIS GAME!
You forgeted to state that 80 % of someone behavour is positive , and every time i got punished i was staying like 2-3 months chill ... , i got honor level 1 right now , i can state with my hand on hearth that 80% of all my year behaviour was neutral to positive... ,but yeah how that honor level decide if i deserve ranked rewards or not ?? , i mean there should be something else what decide if you deserve ranked rewards or not , using just honor level can be so extremly wrong because someone if it dosn't play that often and stayed honorable all the year .. ,when the season ends he decide to entry and give it some tryes to get higher he may get angry or just say something inappropriate which will result in his chat restriction and no ranked rewards , like how that encourage good behaviour when you just punish them based on honor level.. and not regarding how they behave in general all the year ,it's extremly weird how they have this punishment system weakness , and more than this it make it point less to stay chill when they not promote the positive behaviour , is enought if one game get a player who negative behave ... that others get crazy too like that guy.. , and may fall in bad behavour again. After a while from dealing too much with negative behaviour all the days all the games of any kind cause there are many stuffs can be sayd here , you tend to copy all that behaviour and forget about punishments about the fact you do something wrong they not even warn you before you get punished , they let you hit the wall so you can get punished... and loss rewards or something else , even if you want to change riot dosn't helps you , dosn't warn you dosn't let you stay honorable ,cause they have no such system implented to help you stay chill and calm , they should control what players are matchmaked regarding them behaviour then if you had a loss streak they should offer you match making support throught getting more positive players and more skilled etc... ,those all stuffs could help to reduce the miss behaviour
: This banter reminds me of a kid trying to prove to his parents that he deserves a Christmas present from Santa. Was he a bad boy that year.....yep, but "hey, I wasn't bad for the past 2 months! Surely that is enough time to forget all the times I was bad!" Except being humble and silently reflective on your behavior would probably go much further. Of course, it doesn't matter in terms of honor leveling auto system, its more to do with your "i am definetly changed as i reached already honor lv 1 , had lot's of moments people tryed...etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc". Did you really change? I for one, have a lot of doubt on that. People who have changed don't come to a forum to rant on a poor honor leveling system.
how you can be sure then that i don't deserve my ranked rewards ... , cause i don't have time to get back to honorable level in half a year ?... , is not like i been toxic all the year... ,i haven't swear anyone.... etc... , how you can know how bad my behaviour was and how good it was , i can assure you that more than 80% of my behaviour was positive this year... , the rest of 20 % was in punishment ... when i get but every time after i got punished i stayed chill and tryed to control myself , how you can now call me that i don't deserve ranked rewards explain me... what have to do all my behaviour with what means ranked and honor level .. behaviour. , let's take another exemple. Let's say someone stay all the season chill and honorable and he dosn't play that often league of legends he comes to play ranked on the end of season ,get a bit angry or saying something inappropriate he get punished and then he get no ranked rewards , explain me how riot can make that based on honor level and not on your overall behaviour regarding all the season , is just simple like that. Seen lot's of negative behaviour regarding the end of season and i am still here honor level 1 , i can assure you that i played over 80 games with extremly high negative behaviour just in about last month ,is a challenge to stay sharp and quiet when this game test your nervs and patience to beyond limits , but yes i manage to do it , maybe not need dalai lama , i just tryed to don't anymore care ,as i am anyway planning to play something else , cause this is not anymore the game i used to start on 7 years ago , it was something fresh full of people who was learning same time the game and was constantly working to improve themself on playing the game , now you deal with players who just making fun from others agony and who try to make them loss etc... , i seen this game something fun to play 7 years ago in time they turn it into grinding ranked machine , into a game who requires nervs of steel to don't get down to other players level .. ,and more stuffs like this
Asher2406 (EUW)
: Even before the honor update people who got restrictions/bans 1-2 months before the end of the season weren't getting their rewards? It has nothing to do with honor, but with your in-game attitude.
how you can be sure then that i don't deserve my ranked rewards ... , cause i don't have time to get back to honorable level in half a year... , is not like i been toxic all the year... ,i haven't swear anyone.... etc... , how you can know how bad my behaviour was and how good it was , i can assure you that more than 80% of my behaviour was positive this year... , the rest of 20 % was in punishment ... when i get but every time after i got punished i stayed chill and tryed to control myself , how you can now call me that i don't deserve ranked rewards explain me...
: > [{quoted}](name=YiMainOtp,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=zwEhETPx,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-11-04T08:27:51.627+0000) > > That means you can't say anything in this game . Welcome to dictatorship . Where's the liberty to talk ? That's not what that means at all. You drew the wrong conclusion. If insults and toxic behaviour are the only way you know how to communicate with other people, then I guess your whole "they've taken away my liberty to talk to others" does make sense. If that's the case, however, then maybe that's for the better. > If everything you say can be found as a flame , bad behavior and other things .... No, it cannot. Don't extrapolate.
yeah but you can't express opinion ???? , like you can't ask someone else to point someone toxic behaviour cause is flame , that means if someone acuse you for being a public person in an important job and if you abuse the function to steal no one else than police can blame you for your behaviour , is same into this game ,if someone did something wrong why you can't ask for justice??? , what's wrong in that , i would understand if you assault people but if you say one time on the end of the game i think it shouldn't harm !
: Why i got banned
You just lv 56 , i am 165 and been already honor lv 0 :D now i am honor lv 1 ,there are 3 games played ,have you stayed to analys them???
Rioter Comments
RayleighTT (EUNE)
: More about end of season ranked
95 % of the games of the end of season end up with 1 to 3 4 players who behave negative ,and if you don't believe me then believe riot , they get banned,chat restricted , i am just looking to find out from riot how many people didn't receive ranked rewards it could be a good question For me is a continous fight to stay chill and have fun in this game , cause 5-10% i am finding games i can play alone chill without to get negative behaviour of any kind into games ,from very poor gameplay from some team mates ,to flame in team ,to mistakes ,to people who ain't skilled or ain't have knowdledge what mean to be jungler or what mean to be support etc... , is like really not that wonderfull to play league of legends and i manage to stay 3 months chill in this chaos , i may no deserve a medal but at least i should get my skill rewards cause this is obvious not cool at all cause i run out of time to make back honor lv 2 and cause 3 months wasn't enought for me to get to level 2 honor which means neutral behaviour not the most kind behaviour , i ain't get there and i were more than neutral behaving all these 3 months ! ,but yeah does that mather??? , i didn't flame or criticism last 3 months,however just in the 3rd month i got quick honor progress in last 2 weeks like last 2 months was nothing regarding how this 3 rd ended up in honor progress.. , and i can assure you that is not that i didn't behave nice , i can say with my hand on hearth that 99% of the games were neutral to best behave.... , i may 1% not be appropriate because sometimes i pointed some team mates to enemy end of screen that they been toxic not even stated them to report them.. just let them know and let them take them own decisions regarding that behaviour even if i know 1 report is enought ,i just feel like the system detect faster the negative behaviour if there are more many players pointing behaviour of someone
Rioter Comments
Hansiman (EUW)
: That's where bandwith comes more into play. Higher speeds more traffic can be done without impacting your overall connection. Compare it to a road: If you have a road that's large enough for one car to drive down, that's the limit of how much traffic that road can handle at a single time. Expand that road so that now two cars can drive on it at the same time, and you've ensured that more traffic can use the road. That doesn't mean the cars will be able to get where they want faster, since the speed limit may remain the same.
3 hours later my ms got from 60 ms capped to 47 , =)) cool info man ... :D , guess cause it was recently installed on my area it was just a problem of time until the servers get syncronizate and data is sended and changed continuous... etc... , it still help me , because more speed => same ping because some other devices can use my router to watch phone videos or smart tv youtube etc... so basicaly higher speed transfer = constant ms speed connection regarding when you play ... , because it have more than enought capacity to send the data etc ... and receive.. Basicaly is a road with 2 senses one to send one to receive ,but the higher speed the data travel the highest is it effective ,like you no need a larger road if the limit speed is not 60 km/h is like 150 km/h etc... ;)) , it like travel 2 x cars in same amount of time ... like this it works better ... and it should ,guess was a problem between riot server and my new ISP
Hansiman (EUW)
: Packets travel to you at the same speed. Bandwith speed has to do with capacity, as I stated. It's not the actual travelling speed of a packet. Think of how the term "lightyears" isn't a measure of time, but speed. --- 60ms ping is still within the normal definition.
so if someone will watch youtube and i will play league of legends it will still be the same ms ? no mather of my internet connection speed?
Hansiman (EUW)
: Internet speed isn't really a major factor when it comes to ping. Physical distance is. Ookla tests your connection to a server that's "most optimal", which usually means the one that will give you the lowest ping and best speed. This is generally a server that's very close to you, or not busy with traffic. There's multiple servers in my city, and the areas around it, and it varies which one I'm connected to. They all have slightly different ping. When it comes to playing the game, you're still connecting to the same servers, with the same physical distance. The game itself requires very little bandwith, and your original connection was more than enough to play. Bandwith speed can't be compared to driving speed in a car. It's not like your connection travels faster by you having higher speeds, it just means that your connection can transfer more data at the same time.
i thought that as ms come from packets transfer from server to my isp to me it will be faster , i don't know man i still don't regret when it comes about people who use my network connection still could be a better way to play in normal ping ..., or that still dosn't matter?
Rioter Comments
FleaLess (EUNE)
: dunno, i just dont really care what others are doing, i wanna have fun playing the game, not creeping around ppl checking if they still play... the chance of me playing with them again is pretty low...
yeah you don't care that helps other people who can find them and play with them... ,you are having fun but someone else will not and will may one day meet that guy again and they will maybe flame or just stay chill and enjoy them loss , i have style i can loss with style i don't care someone make me loss while i can just duo with someone and just take the hell out of ranked ... ,so i rather let sometimes trollers to ruin themself.. to bronze V eventually they will quit or just they will get banned for flame
bPElva (EUW)
: People get away with intentionally feeding?
Yesterday i meet an 5 10 mid laner with lux ... , we were taking baron , and there were like 4-5 enemys around barron.. ,she didn't retreat with us and she instant recall back near our ally blue ... ,while enemy warded near her i was like okey you so lucky you escape from that... ,and when i notice her for doing this kind of recalls and stuffs she sayd "xD" like is the most annoying word it can exist ,it dosn't have any sense why someone would say "xD" everytime he die and stuffs like this , she was like dying every time first , having worst positioning ever as mage... , not so much skill ,but i didn't comment about her gameplay even if she was 150 farm in min 34 as mid laner and i was like 300 as adc... ,at the end of game she told me to send ticket to support , i told her that this behaviour is not an excuse and she should not assist enemy like this ... , she was like telling me is just a game on the end , telling me that i will tryhard my entire life and stuffs like this ..., and she/he sayd that i will be a great player one day... ,like sarcastic or offensive cause i have more than 1000 games with 1 hero ranked... , and on top of these riot kinda make people not even anymore play serious ranked ,no ranked rewards everyone troll , everyone smurf end of season, and if so many people play without interest is just a mess... They don't care about ranked if they would care there would be punishments for performing weak several times on ranked , it should be less divisions in each tier , so you can advance based on skill and no loss time in series and split the people on a higher area when there should be less divisions because this bring more much skill diversity inside,because of more many players being same division ,not different divisions , cause is really difficult to matchmake after divisions ... , and they always unbalance the games , why you guys think master/challenger had no divisions and it was just one list ,just because of this ... There is only a chance to ban trollers by sending them to support for analys... , but i don't think they will ... analys as they not even have a department to check games ,i don't think there will be soon a system which can do this automatly as they just gather data ,but they not even know if it will work , you can troll multiple times by doing many other stuffs ,and the softs can't detect this!
: >What i have to learn man you don't know what you talking about I'm honor level 4 checkpoint 2 or 3 so I know what I'm talking about. >, is just annoying when you change your behaviour and this happen , is just really piss me off and that's right ?? , no it's not , i am not asking for much i am asking for riot to reward me based on how i behave on a long time ... You got punished so you acted without honor, it doesn't matter if that make you mad or happy in the end you are in the wrong. >but half a year , you understand what i want to point here , you know how frustrating is too do all thinghs good to don't flame and do nothing bad and get no honor progress Flaming is useles anyway and in the end LOL is just a video game, it's pretty lame to insult people for a video game and I would be ashamed to break a contract I agreed to follow because that's not what an adult should do. >,it feel like it harm more than help , how you help someone to be a better person if you restrict him from getting back honor able , this is wrong what you say there , punishment is punishment is enought you loss rewards get chat restriction ban etc... and no hextech rewards but it feel wrong to stop someone progress for getting honorable cause you want to punish him You get no rewards because you broke the rules you agreed to follow, why should Riot give rewards to those that don't even follow their rules ? If you don't think it's fair it won't change a thing anyway, besides on the comment above you said: >they just money grabers and people like you sustain them ... So you complain not receiving chest and keys but Riot are the money grabbers ? No one forced you to break the rules so you reap what you sow here. >,but if you insist to tell me such stuffs i really don't care i just leave this game soon ,but until then doing it spicy for people who still play this "game" cause i can't call it anymore game when is all about luck and how people talk and play. When toxic players leave the game that make the community better, so if you can't prove that you are an honorable and decide to leave that will make Riot and the community happy to be honest. So again you are in the wrong anyway since you did not followed the rules.
you will be happy to play with under 16 years players ,i hope they satisfay your ranked expectations , i am an adult , and i can't stay calm like a kid .. going to cry and leave the games ... ,because i act as an adult ... , if you telling me that being adult means you have no rights to get at a point angry while this game have some kind of random age matchmaking ... , you never know who you talk too ... ,so i will pass ,you think it get better if people like us leave ... , i am not toxic at all anymore but i proof you that i leave it cause is just a waste of time and don't brings anything funny and new in game... , is just same game maybe more worse than it was 5-6 years ago
: > i will never play again without my account like a lot of players.... That's precisely the point of a permaban. And no, it's not a lot of players. Only a tiny tiny minority ever manages to get a permaban. > Why did you perma bann accoutns? Is better if you perma bann the chat..... No, that is not better. Peoples problem is not the chat, it's the aggression they have. Thats why, when Riot tested superlong (basically permanent) chat restrictions in the past, it didn't work because those people who flamed before switched to other methods to express their aggression, like inting, trolling or going afk.
how you dare to say that this is the point of perma ban... , i am one of those players who been permanent banned on league of legends 3 years ago , and i am lv 161 right now , choose your words wisely! ,we been good when you had no players in season 1/2 , really thankful how you talk to players from emissary position !, is like you highly offensive throught all this reply ... , you should get negative banned!
: >Explain me why you think i don't deserve in about 3 or more months to get back to lv 2 honor which means to be honorable again ... Because you got punished, if it took a week to get back to honor 2 that would be pointless, also since you can't get punished that much getting back to honor 2 must take a long time or else players won't learn from the punishment. >and lv 2 is likely neutral start of being honorable ... When you are above level 2 at the end of the season your honor reset to level 2, not when you are below it, since if you are honorable you won't get below honor 2 it's not a neutral start it's the level that show you are honorable. >like i been mostly positive and haven't loss my chill and calm but this is behind any chances to understand why it takes half a year to get lv 2 honor etc... , Yet you got punished at some point. Again since you will at best be punished 4 time max (or so) if it took a week to reach honor 2 you would learn nothing, the longer it takes the better IMO. >,regarding the fact that lossing honor level is way more easy than getting it back ! if you miss behave! or you haven't learn the leasson Yeah it's easier to break the rules right ? Hence why respecting the rules EVERY GAME is hard wich mean it takes time to build honor, that show the higher your honor level the more honorable you are.
it also don't took 1 week , it take 5 months , tell me why a toxic player should be not reformed in 3 months or 2 months of staying chill ,is really that easy to achieve ?? , imagine someone play 2-3 games per day 3 x 60 days =180 games=180 x 30 minuts average takes a game .... now just tell me for 5 months how many games you play and why it isn't enought to reform faster if you play 180 games without flame and be toxic ... ,they even lied about the fact that no getting reported you advance faster if reports ain't making the evidence of toxic behaviour , i haven't got reported in last 2 months ... ,and i got 2 checkpoints in last.. 2 weeks what progress for not getting reported for toxicity... and yeah basicaly nothing special ,0 special progression regarding how you behave , ... like after 2 months they decided to give me the lv 1 ... ,is really feel like this is not worth to eat my nervs every day for nothing... ... ,is same as the season end ... ,this will never change... , they just money grabers and people like you sustain them ... , the reason is other than the one who you mention! ,and i don't want to offend you but you have no interest in helping this game... , like you rather spread negative thoughts than just come up with an opinnion and solution to the fact it take half year... , half season is quit much! ,and it dosn't special level you up based on how you behave i know this because i have played it of much time and depending of my free time more and less...,and at how much i play daily it feel unfair 300%. , if it woulded be honest it would be something you can see not something is hiden !
: >Explain me why you think i don't deserve in about 3 or more months to get back to lv 2 honor which means to be honorable again ... Because you got punished, if it took a week to get back to honor 2 that would be pointless, also since you can't get punished that much getting back to honor 2 must take a long time or else players won't learn from the punishment. >and lv 2 is likely neutral start of being honorable ... When you are above level 2 at the end of the season your honor reset to level 2, not when you are below it, since if you are honorable you won't get below honor 2 it's not a neutral start it's the level that show you are honorable. >like i been mostly positive and haven't loss my chill and calm but this is behind any chances to understand why it takes half a year to get lv 2 honor etc... , Yet you got punished at some point. Again since you will at best be punished 4 time max (or so) if it took a week to reach honor 2 you would learn nothing, the longer it takes the better IMO. >,regarding the fact that lossing honor level is way more easy than getting it back ! if you miss behave! or you haven't learn the leasson Yeah it's easier to break the rules right ? Hence why respecting the rules EVERY GAME is hard wich mean it takes time to build honor, that show the higher your honor level the more honorable you are.
What i have to learn man you don't know what you talking about , is just annoying when you change your behaviour and this happen , is just really piss me off and that's right ?? , no it's not , i am not asking for much i am asking for riot to reward me based on how i behave on a long time ... ,but half a year , you understand what i want to point here , you know how frustrating is too do all thinghs good to don't flame and do nothing bad and get no honor progress ,it feel like it harm more than help , how you help someone to be a better person if you restrict him from getting back honor able , this is wrong what you say there , punishment is punishment is enought you loss rewards get chat restriction ban etc... and no hextech rewards but it feel wrong to stop someone progress for getting honorable cause you want to punish him , is just really harm players who try to get more chill and don't get into troubless.. ,but if you insist to tell me such stuffs i really don't care i just leave this game soon ,but until then doing it spicy for people who still play this "game" cause i can't call it anymore game when is all about luck and how people talk and play.
: > i really like to loss 17 lp for your client bugs If the client was bugged then why most of us don't experience such problems ? I never had this issue too. So your computer is at fault here.
me neither experience such stuffs... , i was waiting to entry the game as there was no errors in background or anything wrong ... ,just thought it take more to load the game idk ...how it's my fault cause this happen without any erros or reason...
Rioter Comments
Yaromon (EUW)
: Toxicity and the vanishing desire to play this game
don't play ranked ,second thought , train normal games , 3 rd thingh there are and good players who ruin because of team lacking experience in playing ... , i started many times very well bot and got ruined by other lanes , same can apply if you just play normal without to die a lot in a role and if the rest of team die a lot of course you wouldn't progress good when someone come and just kill you in 2-3 seconds... , that's why some people could complain about , about rest of players idk just mute them , if you have perfect gameplay don't bother about them.. , if you don't then put your hand and learn from people who play like hell some champs online and streaming etc... and offer advices.
Hansiman (EUW)
: Or just be civil towards others. That's it.
He is right what he tells here , if almost all people are unhonorable for lv 0 ,1 ,being lv 2 neutral for a time or very positive it should land in more faster times to achive honor lv 2 , that's until you don't want to offer too much free content to players ,but i doubt there is anything else riot care about , they just money addicted ... , and you can be civil but staying 2 months and being lv 1 honor is normal for you , or where you seen such system ? ,after 2 months time you haven't say nothing inappropriate ,why you would be still unhonorable , mister emissary , explain me what define you as unhonorable after you spend 60 days which you haven't fall the rules.. The same stuff apply for the fact you may be positive than a neutral lv 2 player and you still progress hard ,because the system have lacks , and you can't ask more civil behaviour than this ... , if you think someone have to stay 5 months to get back honorable you wrong ... , and i haven't flame but been banned augusth now i am lv 1 ... , will take 2 months or 3 to get to lv 2 , which is an more than unfair behaviour from riot to threat us like this.. ,5 months is half a year almost , that's a shame!
Rioter Comments
: That's 100% not possible, and I'm actually glad that you'll learn your lesson.
what i learn i am leaving this game , and that's all ,i let you play with under 18 years player base as all wished and stated they want this , i am not dalai lama to stay chill when people flame me to carry them with 1 afk and 1 jungler who not even listen pings to def bot and let enemy adc to take our inhib , while i am 19 7 and play with 2 tank heroes vs 5 guys , where 2 played quit good in enemy team , and i got flamed cause yeah that's how you play all the day league of legends,ofc i had 19 7 as adc and we lost ofc top sayd report adc for no carrying .. ,if you win you get flamed if you loss you get flamed ... , if you try your best you get flamed .... ,so what lesson i have to learn ??? , i lost over 100 games with scores of 16 or more kills and deaths under 6-7 cause i learn to control my position gameplay and mistakes while all this time everytime i play i see flamers trollers , people who repeat mistakes ,i just not give anymore advices and let them get banned in them stupidity working 500% better now got lot's of feedbacks... for reports submited ,and i will gladly ruin all everyone honor level as soon as he flame or troll or what ever.. and then just start and play another game as soon as i update my pc to be able to run newest games ,and if riot wanted so much to reform i did it but now as riot punish me too much i will punish them too leaving this game. So i don't care how this game will change it been a completly loss of time last years to play it ... ,at least i better know that i refresh my university knowdledge or just chill on other games having fun than staying and watch how i loss game by game as soon as someone flame or give up or rage quit or what ever does....... You all proud that veteran and good players leaving when they cared about how much some players troll ... , and i don't say that it isn't wrong to flame ,but to be wrong to laught of someone else gameplay is really funny , ;)) , i shouldn't laught of those people and encourage them troll ;)) , is funny how this game turned without flame , you see more often people who troll ranked , when i started to play ranked there were just a few trollers and every good players was flame the hell out of those who decided to troll and to take ranked games in laught ,now everyone can troll pasive/active riot close it eyes and ban players for flame rather than for trolling games... I am proud that i will leave this game soon ,until then i will have fun and play like everyone else like the whole playerbase , normal sometimes ,bad , worse than 10 years old skill ;)) ,and i will get from time to time one good game so it dosn't look suspicious , i will test how much takes to get banned ;)) ,will be a challenge ;)) i am waiting to see how riot can detect my gameplay how good it is.. ;)) Is not like i trolled until now but i don't see why we shouldn't encourage troll , cause i like that riot support trolling ;)) , if i still no get ranked rewards it will be a cool end of season for everyone ;)) and that's all my point , i can play normal too and i can play and worse than normal ,so let's show my skill off and play like a dumb after 7-8 years i never tryed that because if i was like playing normal i was loss all the time as what player base is on ranked...
Lotosos (EUW)
: When i enter league page they just show 1 game as the reason to me to get reported, the one i told about in this post (i got 7 games chat restriction ban). This was totally unfair, i never was offensive or treated someone bad in league. This 2 trollers i talked about abused the system and made me get "banned", cause i got the punishment just about 2-3 mins after the end of the game, so that was automatic, there was no other verifications or so...
there is enought just 1 report to get banned ,if you have wrong gameplay one game they will target report you ,even if you don't flame they just report you so they can ride of you... and i shared this many times... , then it dosn't mather you have bad game and you play lot's of game good and stayed chill and been positive most of the time when no one stressed you .. , so they just ban you at first mistake ,no mather you are honor x , or that you aren't like this just when get angry ... , because system is not that smart builded to care ,a human appreciate the man for good qualities and bad qualities , ofc no one is made from steel to resist such much stuffs but the alghoritm can't detect anything of these ,we aint dalai lama to keep chill and calm forever otherwise we get banned every small mistake is there and is counted by riot alghoritm ,i am sorry for you ,as i am sorry they step such further than they ruin all this game for everyone ... ,most of people who resist and are chill dosnt understand that 80-90%of all eune euw servers have problems ,they selfish and this will get euw /eune servers to close. Is not easy since you triggered for toxicity you will get often and often bad team mates and flamers and i can tell you since now that they will not stop to ban you, and toxic behaviour will just show up day by day... , is nothing which protects you or making your reform card feeling like that .. ,it just pump up toxic behaviour in all your games ,until you ain't resist anymore and get banned or worse permanent banned . Got banned like this when i played ranked as adc with a leona who was standing behind me and was talking and no protect me or was let enemy to all in me or staying 3 towers away of me ... as distance , no join team fights ,had jungler same toxic and troller , got banned for my behaviour and there are more much exemples than this ,but all is fair not?? you can't do anything when toxic people see they going to get banned they try to make your game a nightmare just so you can get banned too , so fairplay is riot working when they can't see such behaviour ...we all have no excuse cause someone else starts toxic behaviour ... This is like when gouverments wanted to stop varicella ,and they wanted to cure the ones who got it (1967) ... ,not the people who didn't got it ... same apply here ,they try to cure us while they should protect us of such behaviour so this toxic behaviour dosn't push further but instead we have to face all the time negative behaviour ,there is nothing what makes us to get teams who aren't toxic , is enought if someone start to flame or start to troll feed and don't want to play or goes afk, that the game just turn really bad and full of toxicity but riot ain't try to control this ... ,if people who can live nice and play without problems could get always people who no flame and who play as good as they can there woudn't be any problems any flame and people would enjoy more the game !
RayleighTT (EUNE)
: you know what else you get ?? , no ranked rewards for sure ... , you can really love riot now =)) , is kinda fair :P , you get banned on end of season bye bye rewards.... ,really funny and will make so many people love this game ,cleaver decision Riot GG I am not salty now to you i don't get neither on my main account the rewards as i am lv 1 , i just start to like riot more and more , so welcome of our dark side :) Veigar is the boss here literally when he have the skin
salty emissary where are you , games punishment aint submited for just 1 game , then it will tell you that you some kind flame enemy and show you all your inappropriate behaviour then it will tell you there is no excuse to answer back to them ... , and etc... , well as honorable lv 4 how you feel to be target of riot punishment , i saw lot's of people lv 4 lv 5 honor who got salty with people who got banned but that's until everyone will take throught this... ,sooner or later depending on luck everyone will face at least once the punishment system and they will stop be salty board when this system just makes you hate the game not change yourself ,just hate it !
Lotosos (EUW)
: So i was trolled during the game and i am the one who gets chat restricted!
you know what else you get ?? , no ranked rewards for sure ... , you can really love riot now =)) , is kinda fair :P , you get banned on end of season bye bye rewards.... ,really funny and will make so many people love this game ,cleaver decision Riot GG I am not salty now to you i don't get neither on my main account the rewards as i am lv 1 , i just start to like riot more and more , so welcome of our dark side :) Veigar is the boss here literally when he have the skin
Xzyian (EUW)
: so Ive tried so many games but I get bored after 1 round and i dont have any friends to play with. Theres just something about LoL that makes me happy when i every time go critical yi and pentakill every game in low silver it just has a feel to it but the game brings out the worst in me. Not even when I am getting rekt on a Call of duty 1v1 I dont even feel any bad emotions even if the guy is flaming on voicechat I just laugh it off and congratulate his skill theresjust something about this games lack of communication and the fact u cant talk on voice that just %%%%ing drives me insane when you die to a invade where your team is closeby and the game is just lost from there cause my tilted version is on the team. It's addictingly fun but I just want to stop playing but I cant cause when I dont play I am just bored and staring at my wall and just watching videos, OF LoL. :(
just get 244hz monitor then play fps games , laught of people who say you hack :d cause you see them 4 x what they see ... :D and your problem is solved ,you also need a computer to run 240 fps any game you want ;)) so you can use 244hz display :P If that dosn't help just take an lock program ,and step a random security password you wouldn't remember then you will no longer play it ;)) if you lock league of legends with a password you don't know ... I was thinking same like you but try to play smth else while playing league of legends ,it help you give up after a while to one game if you boring... ,that helped me i was like 1 year playing cs-go , and i had a friend who was beg me to play league of legends with him ,as he wasn't that good player and was flaming i just didn't =)) , i rather stayed cs-go =)) , when i got back from cs-go to lol , anything i learn about flame was just vanish =)) , so is funny one game let's you talk and flame and one don't and 95% of all the games let you talk how you wish without huge punishments..
: Minor correction, that wasn't actually what Riot did with Tyler when it came to his now-lifted indefinite ban. They just made it so that any new account confirmed to be him was banned on sight. They didn't ban his ip address, especially since doing so in the age of dynamic ip as you brought up is impractical, and dangerous when shared ip addresses are a factor. What Riot _can_ do is manually close a player's account if requested through the support desk.
i know but there is no point to buy account if you get ip banned...
Xzyian (EUW)
: bro ty for this but i dont have any friends cause every time people add me cuz im a fking beast at this game even if we are close friends for a while if they cross me i will just int them and block them after the game
Xzyian (EUW)
: An toxic ,Autistic Boy's Unhealthy and Life-Ruining Addiction to league of legends
You can try to find someone who have lv 5 honor and keeps close to play voice with him , and everytime you angry to just talk discord/skype without to share your opinnion to team mates/enemy , it could help if you play 100% of games premade , i had a friend who kinda helped me to stay more chill ,and he told me to focus myself on my gameplay and not on chat.. ,and somehow i really got every mistake and fixed it ... ,then when i had no anymore mistakes to do , i was clearly seen all my allies and enemy mistakes , wonderful until here yes? , then i got pissed off why everytime i see people repeating them mistakes who no focus gameplay ,who give up and not even try or play ,who flame others and have lots of mistakes ,then i started to make criticism , somehow it wasn't good and got banned again and again after 2-3 months from punishment to punishment .. ,until i gived up and just sayd why i have to help these guys to in games, i must play of myself 100% good as smurfers does and then i can win games even if people troll flame and then report them ... , and i mostly did this , all the time i started to report everyone who had lots of mistakes or very negative scores and haven't help team or tryed to help team ! . Guess it work as indeed and it just show up messages after messages for people getting banned ... ,my plat friend told me that writing something when you report dosn't help ... ,i no consume anymore myself to write reports just send them ... , then take every enemy who been toxic and gived up ,and every enemy who repeat mistakes and mistakes and trash played..
Xzyian (EUW)
: how?
riot support... , they banned tyler 1 on ip ,just state and come up with evidence that you got 40 accounts permanent banned and you want to don't anymore play the game ,and they will probably help you with this giving you ip ban that until you don't have dynamic ip may help you ... ,anyway you need to be dalai lama to play this game , you don't want to test Eune , the europe servers are the most worst servers where toxicity is really higher than some other servers , and that's really feel like riot dosn't have solutions for every server in special they just apply them rules equal everywhere... , and i really no like anymore them game , having 5 accounts .. most probably will just have fun cause this game competivity is 0 , ranked is grinding system , and trolling feels more fun than just play good .. , so if everyone troll/flame , i will not stay as a fool to play serious and decent if such behaviour is encourage by riot
Xzyian (EUW)
: its too embarassing/complex to discuss to my counselor but also if i told them what i had been typing i will probably be put in a mental hospital or prison
well i passed over , i had 1 year break and come back to this game , always i was getting punished sooner or later ... , people was flame me to carry them , people was every time troll/flame/feed/stop play/going afk doing mistakes , playing under any limits ranked ,and it was same game i leaved and same game i discovered ,with lot's of patches new ,and more mechanisc stupid heroes who are outplay every adc older than 2018 and who have no mobility , look camille r , ornn r and tank build , now jax been focused in min 45 by 5 guys plat V + players as i been premade with a friend who support me .. and we tryhard to kill him while he was full build from getting 16 7 top , and we had vi jungle who broke his armor ... and me having some kills etc.. and lulu in team.. etc... My advice if you want to stop , is to ignore the people play like you play only for you and you are the only who play for win , no expect anyone to come up to help you , don't flame them let them do what ever they can , if they troll report them , if you carry game and they trolled report them no ask for someone else to report them , if you seen lot's of mistakes from someone point them and report him for troll , if you see someone flame someone else , don't flame what someone else flame , because you never know who does mistakes and who is a good player and who is the bad player ,most of the time when i got autofill support people was tend to flame me for having 900 games ranked with a champion as adc.. , in reality i had 2000 but what's the point to defend myself, never step up and say ah i am really good , they will hurth your feeling and laught of you .. , i stoped to say i have xx games gank me bot and we win easy game .. i don't say anything , and if someone mention about my stats i tell him to stop talk about them .. or i just ignore him if he starts to be toxic as soon as i have enought evidence to report him for trash talking to me or to someone else
Xzyian (EUW)
: An toxic ,Autistic Boy's Unhealthy and Life-Ruining Addiction to league of legends
nOthingSo (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Humpelstilzche,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=KcYEnpzg,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-10-22T20:54:18.141+0000) > > I'm pretty sure no one here can answer your question, because we simply have no information about that. It might be possible, but if it is, it's probably pretty tight. im pretty sure he can make it if he juste plays a lot for these 2 last weeks
thanks man ,it shouldn't be so bad feeling to get on the end of season with the feeling i get or i don't get ranked rewards etc.. ;)) it just feels really bad , as you can't get ranked rewards only being positive , in both cases of rules you need to be skilled ,and that get me to the point that ranked rewards always been just regarding how you play and not what and how you talked , i haven't been cursing anyone or insulting him ,but if you criticism in wrong way you get chat restricted etc... , so as i tryed all year to change my behaviour and be chill while most of 90%of games had negative behaviour in gold + division not some silver /bronze tiers etc... , is really not that easy most i coulded stay chill without lossing my hope and calm and chill as 3 months without any punishment got honor lv 2 checkpoint 2/3 and had it after a punishment then got chat restricted again passing to the next punishment ... ,everytime i was get back to honor lv 2 i was somehow pulled back to punishment... , all matchmaking is about luck , you can't keep chill and calm when there is more negative behaviour showed up than positive behaviour and good players and people who try to play good and no ruin someone else hope that he can in the game and no give up everytime he play bad or someone dosn't play good.
: Season 8 will be known as the season where riot kills their own playerbase. Been doing great with only focusing on balancing for the pro-scene and punishing people who say ´meanie´ words. Can´t tolerate that in an online game, but then you see all the articles that have been shown which proves this attitude is fake. Nothing feels more fun when you play a game of normals and higher elo douchebags come tryharding there, instead of any ranked modes, by doing the fun action of constantly going to a single lane to kill that person over and over, and i am not talking about the jungler doing that. From midlaners to supports, and having to explain how much of a tryhard they are and that they are the reason people are quiting the game, you just can´t enjoy it anymore. For those players to tell you, you should quit. And if you give in to their provocation riot SOLVES it by punishing you. Honor 0, no problem just play for 7 MONTHS STRAIGHT to get back to the base req for your deserved ranked rewards.
i am not that much try hard i just play based on knowdledge , and i play most of time very and extremly good, but i have and bad games , i understand who and why he die ... ,and i have no power to do anything i not even offer anymore advices , i have some games where i have very good games .. and my rest of team dosn't stand up to help me or they not even try to help me they just flame me or do mistakes or keep feed .. , and i kinda don't want to loss when i get 19 7 score or 23 3 score ,but it happens ,even if i tryhard this happen, haven't flame in last time(1-2 months) even if this happened to me recently like 2-3 days ago .. , i don't remember from other times if i did in a small amount anything wrong, but i am not feeling anymore that the game is maded to make people have fun and be happy showing them skill , is like most of the time i feel it like a grinding ranked system hard to advance if you no try hard or you don't play for yourself very good , and also i started to see too much unbalance when it comes about team , riot tries to balance games based about how good you are as player , and is not fair to get worse team cause you good , if you good than others you should have chance to leave that tier and don't be pulled down to stay that tier division if you can more than this ,but riot does the oposite , if i don't carry my game i would easy demote ... , but i have to do it all the time because no one else have interest and is wrong how riot keeps to put presure on good players and in same time to punish them for chat behaviour when there is nothing fun on lossing games because not everyone play equal or communicate equal or come up with tactics and good gameplay .. with less mistakes or who learn to don't repeat mistakes etc...
: I just got a chat restriction for 10 games without saying a single curse word. I guess riot doesnt allow constructive criticism.
if you got chat restriction bans what ever you got , that no mean that you no deserve the ranked rewards if you worked for them , is not riot problem when you played the game and didn't troll all the season , and gived your best every time and stayed chill as much as you could is none of riot buisiness about if you deserve ranked rewards or not , you don't get gold V ,or in my case gold 1-2 just with the chat , so chat and sportmans like conduit not makes you get to gold ... , so i don't see why you need to be lv 2 honor in order to get skill rewards... , is 100% skill rewards cause you don't get them if you have lv 2 and no have gold + ranked tier ... so i don't see why chat behaviour would make you loss your ranked rewards , if you flame is enought you loss lp from lossing games .. but i don't see the corelation between behaviour and skill ... , cause is not like you have made gold+ or any rank without getting angry... at all , so there is the point which no justify to loss ranked rewards for the fact you have no honor lv 2 ... , as well as if you would be extremly positive and play very bad wouldn't help you to get your ranked rewards ... so that proofs that ranked rewards should be 100% just regarding how you play !!! , as it both cases you need skill to get ranked rewards and honor system not offers you ranked rewards without skill ..
Hansiman (EUW)
: > why do we need honor to get a skin anyway? Because for the past couple of seasons, sportsmanship is also tied to the rewards. Skill is not enough if you aren't a good sportsman as well. --- > I was flaming a flamer. I talked back at someone who was being destructive from within our team game, and because they're premade or whatever, I get punished. No, you were not punished because they were premade. You were punished because you were flaming, something you admit to. Someone else breaking the rules doesn't excuse you breaking the rules. --- > If low-elo players lose games, they report people. And as long as you don't break the rules, the reports won't matter.
"Because for the past couple of seasons, sportsmanship is also tied to the rewards. Skill is not enough if you aren't a good sportsman as well." if you got chat restriction bans what ever you got , that no mean that you no deserve the ranked rewards if you worked for them , is not riot problem when you played the game and didn't troll all the season , and gived your best every time and stayed chill as much as you could is none of riot buisiness about if you deserve ranked rewards or not , you don't get gold V ,or in my case gold 1-2 just with the chat , so chat and sportmans like conduit not makes you get to gold ... , so i don't see why you need to be lv 2 honor in order to get skill rewards... , is 100% skill rewards cause you don't get them if you have lv 2 and no have gold + ranked tier ... so i don't see why chat behaviour would make you loss your ranked rewards , if you flame is enought you loss lp from lossing games .. but i don't see the corelation between behaviour and skill ... , cause is not like you have made gold+ or any rank without getting angry... at all , so there is the point which no justify to loss ranked rewards for the fact you have no honor lv 2 ... , as well as if you would be extremly positive and play very bad wouldn't help you to get your ranked rewards ... so that proofs that ranked rewards should be 100% just regarding how you play !!! , as it both cases you need skill to get ranked rewards and honor system not offers you ranked rewards without skill ..
Hansiman (EUW)
: So why is it able to detect toxicity so accurately?
is one to find when someone is angry ,but emotions when you are positive is more deep in feelings , you can be positive staying chill ,you can be positive just helping team mates , you can be positive just joking and making others feeling good , you can be positive throught having great gameplay and helping your team mates to get kills and help them have a good game .. you can do lot's of thinghs ... to be positive , now that's different of how you send negative messages , is way more easy to see if a man is angry and toxic than to detect how kind /good/ and how positive he behave ,pretty fair not ?? You think the alghoritm and program can add you experience for everything you done good , or it just give you a random experience for staying chill and nice , how he detect if someone where just playing normal and chill with someone who been extremly positive, the transparency of the system dosn't allow you to find these stuffs ... , and i am 100% we are rewarded for staying chill almost equal. I also bet he dosn't compare your old behaviour with your current behaviour or with how much you improved it etc...
Hansiman (EUW)
: Well the machine does a fairly good job at determining if you're breaking the rules or not. So why shouldn't it be able to do the opposite?
because it can't detect all your human emotions, it can't detect how positive you are such easy ... , if it would be that easy there would be already artificial androids who would look like human... ,and learn like human.. but they not that close of doing it
Hansiman (EUW)
: > that's not true always ,people tend to skip and forget to honor you even if you behave very nice And as long as you behaved nice, your honor experience increases even if nobody honored you.
but how the honor system does that ??? , i can't see how a machine can decide how good i been behaving or not :| i don't thrust machines , machines been created by humans , and they can make it wrong or not even count your all behaviour ... ,i don't see how a machine can honor experience me for playing good if no one honor me .. , as well as i can't see the machine to be able to detect jokes or stuffs like this ;)) , but that's really bad to really relay 100% on a machine having no one to check what robots or programs does.
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Hansiman (EUW)
: > Honor is something you get for 1) winning games and 2) carrying that game. Being honored only slightly increases your honor experience. The actual behavior you display ingame is more important than the amount of honors accumulated. And by my experience, I get more honors the more positive behavior I display. --- > I don't think I have ever had a game where I've both lost and witnessed someone on the team being the most honourable. I've seen it many times, and several times been the most honorable myself. --- > Support is the hardest to stand out on, and getting to where I was in honor actually took a lot of work It's also one of the roles several people, here on boards, have claimed they were most frequently honored on. --- > I flamed a flamer. I told him to stop. Because he was playing with a friend, he got that person to report me alongside them. 1 report, 2 reports, 9 reports: It doesn't make a difference. One report is as powerful as nine, since the factor that comes into play is your behavior. If you didn't break any rules, no amount of false reports would get you punished. Since you were punished, it indicates people were reporting you when you were breaking the rules. --- > The reports do matter. What they pick up doesn't include being ironic, sarcastic, or talking trash to your friend. Irony and sarcasm used in order to be a jerk is still being a jerk. The system can actually see that just fine. Talking trash to a friend is something you should do through voice chat, not the ingame chat. Nobody knows the person you're insulting is someone you know, all they see if you insulting another member of the team. --- > The faulty honor (and report) system should not define me. It doesn't. You define you, and your behavior defined you as dishonorable. --- > Out of 70-80 games I've been reported in a very small sample of games, relative to the time I've put in. The system actually considers this. Being reported in 2 / 10 games is not the same as being reported in 2 / 100 games in the same time-frame. The percentage is quite different, and the system is designed to consider that. At the end of the day, you were simply breaking the rules in far more games than what is common for a player, ultimately leading you to a penalty.
"Being honored only slightly increases your honor experience. The actual behavior you display ingame is more important than the amount of honors accumulated. And by my experience, I get more honors the more positive behavior I display." that's not true always ,people tend to skip and forget to honor you even if you behave very nice ... , had for exemple a game where i was funny and making jokes and not flame anyone or offended anyone , had 9 2 score as adc, was outplay enemy jungler with my ideea to ask for my jungler to gank twitch on his blue because enemy adc took them jungler red... ,we won game and even if i let people farm them lane or just help them take jungle monsters got no honor , worked for objectives and did my normal duty of playing ranked... and didn't made that for any honors ,but it feel like really stupid when you that kind to get no honors and when you ain't that much positive to get honor from your support just like that , everytime when i play good i honor my support ,and he honor me back sometimes i honor them even if they flame others and etc.. it feels wrong for me to don't honor someone back after he definetly honor me then he think that i have smth with him.. ... Most of the games if it end's quick and with no problems people not even stay to honor and is wrong how they threat the honor system ,there should be a message which pop-up and ask you ,are you sure you ain't want to honor any team mate gameplay/behaviour , some people skip from mistake and some people skip and then they feel like maybe i shoulded honor x why did i skip... etc... , and also feels wrong to have no chance to see all team mates stats before you honor ,maybe they didn't behave that bad ,but someone played more well than who you think was the best player , seen players with lot of kills and had lower damage than some heroes with less kills etc... even if the honors you receive no mather that much that means you can get honor lv 5 by playing 1 game per day and staying chill ?? and get more much progress than someone who play daily and get honors ?? ,this is wrong !!!
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