Stexer (EUNE)
: People, hear me
I agree with you mate, those wankers should be punished, but dont worry, if riot doesnt punish them, GOD will! Those sick kanzur players...
xTheMaker (EUNE)
: Astrounaut Jarvan IV!
Good job guys, I like it very much!
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Hahahaha dude you made me laugh for 10 minutes! Thank you!
Spirtikus (EUNE)
: man are you really comparing 3 v 3 and 5 v 5? totally different game you know. Tbh mostly on the forums I see lower elo players complaining about this dynamic que. Just get better at the game and try to win, stop thinking its not your skills and stop blaming everything else...
It is a lot different, but if I play good against high elo players and win, then it shouldnt be that hard on 5v5. I didnt said I lost all the games because of 2 random guys, we all do mistakes. Idk thank you on opinion.
Serika Zero (EUNE)
: > Solo queue its dynamic queue. What it means is that the premades in the enemy team is better than you. The meta is different from TT to SR. The play style is different. The champion balance is different. I was plat 4 last season and I easily got to plat 5 again this season. While playing solo as always. It only took me like 62 games to get plat 5 again. Apparently my mmr is plat4-3 anyway since I'm sitting at 60% win ratio. Look, the main different between TT and SR for you 3 premades is that in SR, you must accommodate for your other 2 party members. This means, you shouldn't flame them, you shouldn't bitch to them and you shouldn't bitch or flame each other in-game chat either as "jokes" because not everyone is getting those jokes. You should understand that every player has different decision making and got to their elo in different ways. Some got carried, some got good mechanics, some just payed an elo booster, some got good decision making skills, some are good at tanks, other are good at mages, others abused freelo broken champions that are now nerfed. You can't win this game 3v5. And if you make a teammate feel bad, you definitely can't win 3v6. So, what is most likely holding you back is the meta change and the social aspect of the game 5v5 as opposed to 3v3. To "fix" the social thing. You can simply not use the game chat at all and always ping (1-3 times) when going for objectives, or roaming or ganking. This is a neutral behavior that shows some desire for communication. Its not perfect, but its acceptable and works pretty well. Also, in case your X member starts to flame. Try to protect the one that gets flamed. By saying stuff like "everyone makes mistake, we will outplay the enemy and win late game", "don't worry, we can carry if we stay positive", "please don't flame, it puts everyone on tilt, and he couldn't do anything to survive/save you" And as far as meta change. You might make the wrong decisions as to when to fight, when to chase, and when to go for objectives, when to counter jungle, when to retreat. As its not the same as TT. Also, the enemy team is most likely to have a lot of premades in it too. So, additional challenge for you appears in macro play and rotations. So, lets say your premades and you are going bot, adc, jungle. Letting you with mid and top solo players. If the enemy premade is camping the shit out of your top/mid laner. They are likely to put them on tilt and set them very far behind (maybe not gold wise, but morale wise). So, your jungler can't just camp bot, or just afk farm the jungle. Your jungler should also try to be active. If the mid laner gets camped, try to get enemy jungler camps, try to get dragons, try to gank bot/top. If it looks like "ok, I'm dying here but my team is fighting back and punishing the enemy for them ganking me" it will rise the morale (not of everyone, but of the majority of players). And eventually, your support can roam mid, together with the jungler and 3 man gank that enemy mid laner. Especially when he ain't expecting you, getting your mid back in the game and off tilt. Its personally more easier for me as a solo player. If I lose, my premades sucked balls. If I win, my premades were decent. I rarely lose "because I fucked up". And this helps because I fuck up a lot haha. The other thing is that you play on Eune. And that server compared to Euw.... god, the difference is so massive..... to many flamers, to many afk rage quitters on eune. ps: I highly recommend top/mid (with TP) + jungle + sup for 3 man premade groups. As it enables 4 man bot (support and jungle can ward for tp). As well as 3 man 'gank' on solo laner (support roaming with the jungler coming for a gank, heck, the tp laner can even join too).
I understand what are you trying to tell me, I am never toxic and I rarely use chat, just smart pings. I dont like to rage on my teammates cause that will make them probably feel bad. About playing top/mid + jungle + support sometimes works but we cant get it all the time since we have to choose two roles before champion select and we cant get what we want all the time. I am glad you wrote your opinion this big, it helped me a bit but I guess it will help someone else too. :)
PoKeR22234 (EUNE)
: I did the promos today and i find this dynamic que really weird for a solo player I dont know how people pick when they que up, but i see supports play mid, adcs play jungle, top players play adc and lose the game in 15 minutes or less, in season 5 with the solo/duo system people got to play almost everytime what they wanted now i dont know they are trolling or they like to change roles every game In one match i got in the team a premade of 3 players, top-mid-jungle, they didnt talk in chat, they didnt ping, just did their own thing and destroyed the enemy team in 10 minutes, me and the adc were just following up, thats just sad you know, the enemy team didnt know what hit them or how to react and the same happened in some of my loses also, complete stomps (nice that the plat friend can carry his silver friends now) Will see how the next days will be, today was really bad and hope that the old solo/duo comes back, its somewhat easy to deal with a duo then with a 3, 4 or 5 premade
I like playing jungle or mid but sometimes queue is 10-15 minutes long so I just put support gor insta queue. I hope, in few next days, tables turn and you can have good games and win!
Tigerkwan (EUW)
: I would like to say that during the banning phase i feel like there isn't enough time. It felt like 5 seconds for me, I hesitated and miss the champ ban button, then i got a 5 minute temp-ban. It might be the same time before but again i feel like it's too short .Please extend the time just incase, for clumsy people like me ^3^
Yea, time for picking a champion is kinda short but you can easiely decide what to play and lock a champion on time.
OzX (EUW)
: Oh ok. Well I can agree to that haha
Fang (EUNE)
: Funny how you made that example... Last night I tried to play my promos after a rather long break. 1st game went surprisingly well, 2nd game I had a 3 man premade. I had a Plat 2 ADC, D2 Toplaner, D4 mid and (solo) D4 jungle. I'm D5 in promos to D4 and was solo as well. Then I remembered why I hate dynamic queue so much once again. Enemy had a D4, D5 and 2x D3. The gap in the lanes facing each other is over the top. It's not because of high MMR that I get to support a Plat 2 ADC, it's because his premade D2 friend thinks he can carry him. Before that kind of game used to be a rarity, now it's standard due to 3-4 man premades. The 3 man premade in question didn't communicate at all either. They weren't toxic, they just never talked nor used pings.
I wish you all luck in getting to D4 man. I feel sorry for you having to lane in that big division gap, hope they will so something about it!
OzX (EUW)
: I'm not saying you never have bad players. It just seems weird that you always end up having the bad players in your team, I mean, enemy team has more than twice as much chances to have bad players as you do. But everyone is entitled to its own opinion
I never said that I lost like 10 games in a row, I just think its happening more than it should be.
DELDE115 (EUW)
: Well DynamicQ has been a good experience for me. Guess im the strange dude. I managed to find a friend and we premade duoQ in ranked. And it has been going incredibly well. Its the first time we are playing ranked on a serious level (as in regularly), we both got placed in Bronze 2 and we are climbing really well. And the funny thing about our duoQ is that we are not botlane premades. My friend plays top and mid, while I only play support (I can play adc too, but I "sacrifice" myself and play my main role, which is support). Its been going well because of the communication we have going on. if anything happens in botlane my bud will tp instantly. And we useually get 3 Solo players, and barely any 3 premade teams. I honestly dont know why people dont like SoloQ but I get that people want to play alone. But I believe DynamicQ is better simply because playing with a partner or two can really make your ranked experience easier. Probably the matchmaking is off balance, simply because so games are pure face roll while others are hard as hell. _______________ About the premades being boosted, there is a rank limit. And hey, maybe that player had a bad game, or maybe that player is on a horrible losing streak. But if that player is a legit booster, then said player should fall down instantly because he/she is not playing at their respective level. _____________________ Anyway, my opinion? Its been going really well, with no complains at all. If I had to say anything AGAINST DynamicQ, I think that the ability to Quadra premade in ranked should be eliminated. Triple premade is still ok because you can get the chance of getting a duo or two solos which all in all is not that bad.
I am really glad to hear that you and your buddy are doing good! But you never know when the tables can turn. I respect your opinion on dynamic queue and that the premade cap should be lower, but still you are playing as ones was able, solo/duo :)
Cosmick (EUW)
: I'm not stressed about it since ranks mean virtually nothing with dynamic, but there is absolutely **nothing** enjoyable about being grouped with players who so blantantly obvious don't belong where they are. I have to hand it bluntly to whichever developer thought this dynamic que was a good idea, next time you go to get checked for hemorrids, don't be surprised when the gp tells you it's just your head.
It doesnt mean to me that much either but still I feel bad when I see someone I know is bad, and play worse than me, but he is still bigger division.
OzX (EUW)
: Ah so if you win lane you are good, but if an enemy wins lane it's because your teammate is bad. That's doesn't seem very fair to me :)
If enemy is 3/0 on 8 minutes and my teammate rages on our jungle and then dives on bot 1v3 and dies then leaves game I dont think he is good. I mean I never judge players at the game because everyone has a bad game, I judge them after game when I see their match history, which is same from game to game. And its not all about laning, they make begginers mistakes at 25+ minutes that costs me game. That is my opinion.
kuzzy47 (EUW)
: Premade crying about a bigger premade, welcome to dynamicQ.Soloq needs to happen.This way your premade will only face other premades 3+2 vs 3+2,5.This will bring more balance to both premade games and soloQ games as there wont be games like 3+1+1 or 4+1 since the 1 guy will q for SOLOQ. Getting caught or going yoloswag in 25+ min into the game will cost you the game thats why the bigger the premade the more chances to win as soloQers dont coordinate aswell.So bad players get higher and good players get lower creating the shitbalance we have atm with one side stomps.
Correct, in 25min+ if somemone gets caught you atleast lose one turret, atleast! It is rarely to have 2 not same sized premades, its all about that my teammates that are out of premade making big mistakes that costs us the game. Thanks on understanding!
B14ckout (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Recklessnesz,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=7WhjE1uu,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-27T20:17:42.950+0000) > > Not really, bronze player is no where near diamond. and same goes to d5 vs challenger xd
Not that much that you can say that they are sam as bronze - d5. Thank you on yor thoughts about this helps a lot!
Karkon (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Recklessnesz,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=7WhjE1uu,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-27T20:08:27.345+0000) > > I said I win lanes in both queues but dont win games on both maps. 3 of us coordinate very good but if their team coordinates better as 4 or 5 we lose fight because one of two players we have more are jungling crab and other one is dead because he tried 1v5 and how can we do anything with 3 man against their 5? Yea m8 that's how it is in 5v5 ! Go back in 3v3 again then or stop playing dynamic queue and start going completely solo !
Thats how it is when players are unskilled, not how it is in 5v5! You probably never watched any high elo game. I stopped playing league, and if I return I will probably return to 3v3 just like you said. Thank you on your thoughts!
Cosmick (EUW)
: I'll be honest, the closer I get towards gold, the more I consider deleting the game after dynamic was introduced. The players you encounter as you get higher and higher, are actually playing far far worse than what I experienced through bronze (Not even kidding), they have an absolut lack of awareness on the minimap. The most common play I see the higher I climb, is people diving enemies @lvl 3 - 5 under their turrets, while the enemy jungler walks over wards heading straight for them. Dynamic have created by far the most unbalanced and unhealthy environment one can possibly imaginable.
You are completly correct my friend, I experiences everything you said and guess what I came to point that I deleted LoL today. If you are too stressed about it, do it, I feel a lot better since this morning when I deleted it.
B14ckout (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Recklessnesz,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=7WhjE1uu,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-03-27T19:36:52.107+0000) > > Ever thought it is because you are d5 and you know a lot about the game in general. There are not many players with my solo que ranking in plat/diamond 3v3 elo. I am happy if I see I matched against d5 or something in treeline because we have a lot chance to win. You are very well correct about comparing rift with tt but not about skill requirment. If you have good mechanics in soloq you just have to learn how tt works and you can easily get in high division. Yea but d5 and challenger difference is more than bronze and dia5
Not really, bronze player is no where near diamond.
Stexer (EUNE)
: You are completely right. If I can't win a game as a fed mid laner(Brand, Ahri, Corki) because of premade jungle and bot, that are, just to mention, FROM POLAND, talking Polish, no one understands them, and they go as 3 and chill, leaving the other 2 players to solo. I am silver 1, was gold 1 last season and I can't get out of silver because someone is constantly trolling the game. They premade, they feed, I say "you're so unskilled", and they report me as 4. I had AD Soraka mid lane, Elise jungle, and premade bot, I was playing Graves top, 5-0-0 on 10 minutes, and lost the game because Soraka was 2-10-0. Dynamic queue sucks, people are getting boosted to higher elo where they don't belong, and when they're bad, they pull you down with them. RIOT, BRING BACK OLD SOLO-QUEUE.
I am sorry to hear that you had such bad teammates and that you cant climb because of them, you understand me completly.
OzX (EUW)
: So basicly, enemy midlaner has a troll botlane (feeding you and your premade), he still manages to carry harder than you, but you are the one deserving the win? :-/
Noone said they fed us, we just won them by maybe 1 or 2 kills and some cs lead, thats not a troll, we won cause of our better coordination.
Karkon (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Recklessnesz,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=7WhjE1uu,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-03-27T19:25:16.509+0000) > > I can win laning phase against diamond/challenger player in twisted treeline and score a victory against their team that has very good team coordination, and on the other hand I do the same against silver/gold players on rift but lose a game because my teammates, not from premade, feed enemys and do misplays all the time. So tell me once more is this a normal thing? Yeap it is perfectly fine ! You say that you win lanes and games in 3v3 but when u go 5v5 u can't ! It's because u need to coordinate better plus you got 2 more plyers ! The enemy team does it better !
I said I win lanes in both queues but dont win games on both maps. 3 of us coordinate very good but if their team coordinates better as 4 or 5 we lose fight because one of two players we have more are jungling crab and other one is dead because he tried 1v5 and how can we do anything with 3 man against their 5?
OzX (EUW)
: Sorry to burst your bubble Bro but if you can't carry as 3 people you don't deserve to climb. Tbh I barely see the difference between solo and dynamic. My games are overall as balanced as they were in soloq (which is not really a compliment tbh) Anyway everyone shits on dynamic q but it's an excuse. If soloq was back they would go back to complaining about trolls. Always something that stops people from climbing, but it's never their skill obviously.
Bro If one team plays together as 5 they can beat our 3, if it is other way round, game wouldnt be balanced. And I am maining support and one of my friends mains adc, so we win lane against their bot but what can we do if their top/mid and jungle are fed and can kill my adc easily while those 2 out of premade are doing scuttle ceab in middle of teamfight. You are not right about excuses. There were trolls in champion select by picking what they want not caring about others but you still can win with them if you pick what is needed in your team. Here if you have unskilled player feeding their mid, you cant win.
B14ckout (EUW)
: Dude, I never played twisted treeline, I was dia5 in season 3, I took 2 mine friends that were also dia5 in soloq. We had 0 experience in 3v3. We got challenger in one week xd @ EUW. Skill level in 3x3 is very low :/ you cant compare it even near to soloQ
Ever thought it is because you are d5 and you know a lot about the game in general. There are not many players with my solo que ranking in plat/diamond 3v3 elo. I am happy if I see I matched against d5 or something in treeline because we have a lot chance to win. You are very well correct about comparing rift with tt but not about skill requirment. If you have good mechanics in soloq you just have to learn how tt works and you can easily get in high division.
: Well i dont like dynamic que because of the terrible matchmaking. I feel really bad when i have to play vs diamond 2 sometimes ..Because i know i dont deserve it yet. I want to play vs and with my elo . DIAMOND 5 not NOT 3 . So i got a d2 top at my team and same time a d2 adc at enemy team. The difference between d5 and d2 is huge for me. A lane with 2 d5 players vs a d5 and a d2 is obvious. I got no problem with dynamic quee(from side of preamders ) but i think the limits should be more restricted. At season 5 i never saw a d2 premader with plat . Now i see every game.. Thats sad for me. However i never saw premaders being really toxic on me(all of them same time). I had a game where one guy was really toxic his preamders however didnt flamed me at all compare with him .
I understand you completly, I think that premade should be limited at max 2 or 3 players. And about divisions you are completly right, it is not same to play against d2 or d5 players, it has to be somehow reworked for higher elo, but not that much for lower elo (bronze, silver). Thats a good thing that they are not toxic at you, it means that you didnt made them lose the game(if you loss). I didnt said I am or my friends are perfect, we all do mistakes.
Karkon (EUNE)
: I've never been to Plat 1 ! I always played solo queue ! I was silver 1 this season and managed to climb to Gold 5 ! Today i played ranked and went from Gold 5 to Gold 3 skipping Gold 4 ! So the point is , did it ever occured to you that YOU may not deserve to be in the division you are ? Playing 3 ppl together means that the enemy has a 3 ppl that play together ! The team that works together better wins ! So stop whining about the 2 random players in ur team and start thinking how u can become better ~!
I can win laning phase against diamond/challenger player in twisted treeline and score a victory against their team that has very good team coordination, and on the other hand I do the same against silver/gold players on rift but lose a game because my teammates, not from premade, feed enemys and do misplays all the time. So tell me once more is this a normal thing?
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