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Rioter Comments
: The adc godplex problem is here ones again
Meddler:all the enhancers are balanced,all around 50% winrate and a decent playrate,what should we do? Balance Team: Release support items that increase the heals and shields by a percentage? Meddler:but then we would have to nerf the champions Balance Team:no one is gonna complain they are supports Meddler laughs hystericaly as he continoues painting a crying clown.
Punky s9 (EUW)
: to my knowledge they did not get reported ,maybe they had kill participation, i had none, 0%, i dont think they deserve the report for haveing a bad game and being stomped in lane. it happens.
im talking about you. 1 game before the one you got banned you played zed 0/3 with 26 cs at 40 minutes.
Punky s9 (EUW)
: toxic team gets me banned
what about the 0/3/0 zed with 26 cs at 40 minutes? the 0/10 support oriana?
Rioter Comments
: You should have gotten a mail with further information, if you think you should not have been banned for that game then I suppose you wouldn't mind posting the chat logs of that mail.
> [{quoted}](name=Robindino14,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=i5heclEz,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-01-28T19:56:26.641+0000) > > You should have gotten a mail with further information, if you think you should not have been banned for that game then I suppose you wouldn't mind posting the chat logs of that mail. mail HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHHAHHAH riot is like the hillary clinton of emails
: GIVE SORAKA TRUE DAMAGE
give soraka TRUE HEALING GENIUS MINDBLOWN MOMGETTHECAMERA
: How often does autofill actually hit? Part II, Top/Jungle and Jungle/Top, 67 games sample
you have to pull the classic "MID OR FEED" ....jk but seriously try to trade roles with someone else in champion select sometimes you can find some undercover support mains
Trick2G69 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Trick2G69,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=0Vt3hMpF,comment-id=00030001000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-19T23:58:13.314+0000) > > i post only the screenshot of game 2 because that the only game that i believe was caught by the system due to a bug/malfunction.
yeah but this shop has a 3 items at least theft policy.
Trick2G69 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Trick2G69,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=0Vt3hMpF,comment-id=00030001000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-19T23:58:13.314+0000) > > i post only the screenshot of game 2 because that the only game that i believe was caught by the system due to a bug/malfunction.
i mentioned above that i fed unintentionaly i just had a bad game,im just proving that one of the games chat logs are not inflamatory or have negative attitude. If i go to a supermarket and prove them that i bought a broken knife they will replace it they will not say "hey the handle works"
Hansiman (EUNE)
: > for every game you were sent. You're picking out a single case, out of every game you were sent. Why are you not showing your other logs?
> [{quoted}](name=Trick2G69,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=0Vt3hMpF,comment-id=00030001000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-19T23:58:13.314+0000) > > i post only the screenshot of game 2 because that the only game that i believe was caught by the system due to a bug/malfunction.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Then show your entire unedited logs for every game you were sent. If you were punished by a 'bugged' system, I'm sure we'll see absolutely no unwanted behaviour from you.
since you mentioned unedited i will post the screenshot of game 2 http://i.imgur.com/Ri0m6tF.png i post only the screenshot of game 2 because that the only game that i believe was caught by the system due to a bug/malfunction.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Well your log shows you having the intent to assist the enemy team. That's still not permitted. And even so: it won't justify the other cases of misbehaviour you had in your games. One game isn't enough to flag you for punishment for milder issues, so there's nothing wrong here.
since the system has punished me for inflamatory behavior or negative attitude how is the punishment justified since it can not prove that i behaved in that way in that game.If the system cant prove that i threatened to open lane without my teams agreement then how can it punish me?it seems to me like youre trying to justify buggs in a flawd system.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: You're not punished for just this though. Your punishment is based on the behaviour you displayed in all of the games you were reported in since your last punishment. Picking out a single case and claiming that this one isn't punishable won't work, because you're not providing the entire picture.
i picked this case because i truly played badly that game,i didnt intentionaly feed but it was a bad game for me,after some minutes and seeing that we didnt have much hope my team decided and asked me to open my lane.After the game i guess my team wanted to report me for intentionaly feeding and just chose verbal abuse and negative attitude too,i made this thread because i believe this is the case for this game.my team misreported me.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Well you did anounce that you're opening a lane, which is letting your team know that you're not going to play and basically assisting the enemy team. That's negative attitude. It's the same as announcing that you're afk for the rest of the game because you can't be bothered playing anymore. You're destroying team morale.
my team asked me to open lane,i just agreed,if i was to be punished for opening lane it should be for assisting enemy team intentional feeding,but getting punished for agreeing to my team asking to open lane?why?
Hansiman (EUNE)
: But what exactly is your question? You didn't ask anything.
the threads question is:where is the "verbal abuse" in the chat logs of game 2?
Trick2G69 (EUNE)
: WHY THOUGH?
i dont realy wanna bother making a ticket for this if there isnt a chance it gets lifted,in that game i played badly and my team probably reported me for inting and just added verbal abuse in it i guess,can any volunteer tell me if theres a chance it can get lifted from riot support or will they just point at one of my other 3 games and say "hey there you said report x ,report calling is against the rules good bye"
Escheton (EUW)
: Don't open. Just try to play safe, even if it means you get denied cs a lot. Then play from behind, win a teamfight and/or get carried, A fed toplaner isn't 100% gonna win them the game, geez.
its a normal dude,people troll because of a "killsteal" or just because they didnt get their role,i dont want to sit in a 20 minute game playing just to lose eventualy because of the 4v5 so i ask my team if they want to open,whats so bad about that?
Escheton (EUW)
: Did you just report yourself?
i fed that game so i would if i could(not intentionaly). feelsbadman.
Rioter Comments
Funoros (EUNE)
: I got wrongfully banned for 14 days.
you didnt realy int but you probably got in an argument with your team saying something like "now im gonna int" or something like "now i will troll" and the bot picked it up.
IAmDoosh (EUW)
: This has already been said before, but I must vent.
this is the internet,there are neonazis communists terrorists drug addicts and drug dealers on the internet,and youre upset because someone told you to get cancer.
Wolfêêd (EUNE)
: EUNE Server
i dont mean to sound entitled or anything,but there are MMO companies handling a lot more data packages for way less money than riot does,it only seems right to complain.
Tomiun (EUW)
: Account Transfer
it would be cheaper to just buy an ebay account in EUNE.
Trick2G69 (EUNE)
: what makes a hardcore gamer what he is except the amount of time he invests in the game is also his competitive nature most profesional and wannabe profesional players want to be critised in the game and want to get feedback from their teams,which is something riot clearly forbids,calling someone else a bad player is considered by riot verbaly abusive and bannable.
on the other hand behavior like intentionaly feeding which is condemned by most competitive players is mostly acceptable by riot,with only extreme cases of players getting banned for that reason. This sums up the reasons i made this thread. I believe league of legends has a lot of potential as a competitive game,in 2014 and 2015 it probably had the chance to be the most competitive game in the world,but the company handling it chose to direct the game towards the largest audience the casual players,it kept allowing griefers and bought accounts in the game while being too harsh on players with inflamatory behavior. Just to be clear:im not talking about players who are:racist,sexist,homophobic,give people cancer wishes and death threats those are all stuff no one wants in the game,im talking about the people who got banned with their chatlogs being only calling a teamate bad a troll or report calling at the end of the game,those are the only people im willing to defend.
: ^ exactly.. there is nothing hardcore about being a dick league is a balance between hardcore and casual. but certainly is more lenient towards casuals as they are the majority.
what makes a hardcore gamer what he is except the amount of time he invests in the game is also his competitive nature most profesional and wannabe profesional players want to be critised in the game and want to get feedback from their teams,which is something riot clearly forbids,calling someone else a bad player is considered by riot verbaly abusive and bannable.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Well that's still just roughly 5% of the community. Most people are neutral or friendly, but they aren't as vocal as that 5%.
thats not realy true,i have several accounts,it takes a lot more effort to get your first punishment than it takes to scale up the toxitity punishment ladder.A lot of players are fairly toxic but never get punished because they dont play enough games or just because they win games and their teams dont bother reporting.
Eambo (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Líe,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=5etRqvGq,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-06T15:41:05.608+0000) > > how do you even deal with that > like, my best friend for like 9 years introduced me to lol, but i can't play with him because he's a massive hypocrite. **literally** everytime he dies it's "bullsh*t unbalanced game enemy noobchamp omg", but when he gets a kill it's "skill outplay hehe xd". > when i'm his support, it's extremely important that i get 0 kills and 0 cs, but when he's my support it doesn't really matter if he get cs or kill because he needs them to get stronger. > > teach me the way of the rambo I'm generally close enough that I can tell them "Yeah we don't play together well" :-P Some of them are cool enough to try and calm down, some of them continue to rage - I just don't tend to invite them to games any more and they know why. They also know it's nothing personal against them and we're still good friends - it's just that on LoL I can't handle the salt :-P
if its impossible to prevent humans from being humans then why is the company you represent so eager to impliment a system that permabans toxic players?
: league is very casual, it's a good chill game to play for fun with friends, but it can also have a hardcore touch to it. especially in ranked where it's a matter of life or death. league has taught me a lot about strategy games, actually. as weird as that may sound. i bought overwatch, played it for 2 days for level 25, did my ranked placements in it and got to platinum rank, while most new players get like bronze or silver. i used the knowledge i got from league with teamwork and communication so i'd say it's both hardcore and casual, depending on what you play and how you choose to play, which makes league such a good game (for me at least)
i understand what you are saying,but the needs of a casual player and the needs of a hardcore player greately differ. the entire punishment system riot has released exists to serve casual gamers.It doesnt realy matter what you do in the game as long as you dont flame a teamate youre good by riot standards.Which is the exact opposite from what every hardcore/competitive player wants.I dont want my teamate who called me bad or said "report x" perma banned i want the guy who got autofilled and went ashe support 0/24 permabanned.
Rioter Comments
: Yes. Just learn to play against him and acknowledge when you are outmatched by a better player.
i just love it when i pick adc the enemy yasuo misses his w and his tornado but he can still 1v1 me because of warlords and the omen he built
Perilum (EUW)
: Every time Yasuo is just mentioned to get nerfed, the forums run hot and everyone suddenly starts to have problems with Yasuo.
well you know yasuo is picked or banned in 70-80% of ranked games,for a champion that hasnt been touched in 4 months thats not natural. The problem isnt that yasuo is strong right now,yasuo had always been a strong champion you could see that by the nerfs he got,he never realy had a big nerf comming his way only small nerfs to keep him not too strong for the meta.He has a kept a high playrate and a high winrate for too long,its time for the meta to shift to other champions dont you think? 1.For those who will say that yasuo isnt strong because he is not being played in the LCS,please realise that the proffesional league and the normal league of legends are 2 diferent things. 2.Is it just us who are bad and cant deal with yasuo? -No the champion has the exact same playrate 20% on all ranks. 3.Overall in league of legends the meta is shifting away from the "solo carry ideology",champions that had "solo carry potential" like fizz kata and other assasins who could just straight go into 5 people kill the adc and escape got changed to be forced to rely more on their teams and position themselves accordingly. 4.Yasuo is not a particular case for riot,he is going to be changed to have to rely more on his team just like the other assasins,riot just wants to be more carefull on him due to his big playerbase. I dont like the direction the game is going,which is in my opinion too team relying, just look at the strongest champions in the game,you will probably see janna poppy soraka ivern,what do all these champions have in common? they rely on their team,and if you look closely to which champions have kept a high winrate through the years you will probably see champions thatrely on their team.
tihs (EUW)
: dude if you're gonna get banned from forums for spamming at least do something original
i had to delete the last one and create this because i posted on gameplay,(if thats what youre talking about)
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Tell me what report calling does though. I'm honestly interested in your opinion of it. The system doesn't really care that multiple people reported a player, as a single report is enough. The system focuses on a percentage of games reported in out of total amount of recent games played. That way, premades won't hold extra reporting power, nor will is it possible to gang up on a person by threatening them with multiple reports. With that in mind; why do you need to report call? It doesn't change the speed of a possible punishment that player may get, as long as you're reporting him. The only thing you accomplish is that you end up breaking the rules yourself.
riot says that only one report is needed but i highly doubt that to be honest.
Trick2G69 (EUNE)
: you mistake riot staff and the community,im pretty sure more than 99% of the community has no problem with report calling 10 seconds before the game ends,riot emploees do.dont mix those things up.
im not talking about the riven top saying mid no ss report,im talking about the people waiting for the game to almost be over to make the report call just to be clear.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: It is, because a permaban isn't something you'd get for the first time offense. You'd get permabanned if you've been punished multiple times, without doing anything to improve on the behaviour that gets you punished. If you have no interest in improving, the community really has no interest in having you here. Also, it would be very very rare for a person that only calls for reports to get permabanned, they'd have to do it a lot in order to get permabanned for it. Commonly, those types of players are toxic in other manners as well though.
you mistake riot staff and the community,im pretty sure more than 99% of the community has no problem with report calling 10 seconds before the game ends,riot emploees do.dont mix those things up.
Trick2G69 (EUNE)
: you dont realise how many things people use in their games daily riot considers verbal abuse,i talked to a riot emploee in a support ticket,the sarcastical early GGs report calls even calling a players a troll is consider verbal abuse.
taking that in consideration times a player who plays a lot of games regularly and boom you have players getting punished over nothing.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: But you can't, because I doubt it exists. If you're going to make claims like this, be prepared that you need to provide evidence to suggest that what you're saying is true.
you dont realise how many things people use in their games daily riot considers verbal abuse,i talked to a riot emploee in a support ticket,the sarcastical early GGs report calls even calling a players a troll is consider verbal abuse.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Show me a case where a player has gotten punished through the various steps, and permabanned, for **only** calling reports then.
i would if i could.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: You've always been able to get permabanned for calling reports. It's never been tolerated by the community. Players voted punish for that in the old Tribunal as well, so there's no difference. The current system is based upon what we, the players, reported and voted for in the old system.
you could always get permabanned for calling reports but not ONLY for calling reports.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Greetings. Riot tested this once. Nearly every single player that got their permabanned accounts back went back to their old negative behaviour once they regained access to those accounts, even if they had behaved perfectly well up until that point. It was a huge failure, and reason enough to never try again.
yeah but when they tested that there was tribunal,now we are getting banned by bots.the bot doesnt have a spine,you can get permabanned for calling reports.
Rioter Comments
Kian987 (EUW)
: Zyra/Brand support must be toned down since like 8 months.
they already gave janna soraka and all of those supports better items,janna is again the highest winrate support in the game.
Bogi (EUNE)
: A big "Thank you" to Riot.
i just stopped trying to level up because of camile and yasuo in every game,see you next week league of legends.
: I have no idea how ppl manage to get themselves permabanned for chat. While i dont insult, my chat aint pegi 12 either. You just have to know when you can say that and not spam it. Example: overall my chat only consists of comm in chsmp select and 'gj' but when sb goes unjustly hard on me, he gets a ffff you too. well, not in ranked games. Ppl get triggered too easily and i dont want to tilt the deadweight tm8 more. No punishment ever yet.
well personaly i recommend most new players i meet to not put any money in the game.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: There has never been an unban sweep.
i am not sure but when they decided the end the system with the stacking chat restriction didnt they reset everything?
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