: Riot banning system is broken.. if Fnatic Caps goes unpunished.
Jensen got banned like 4 times for being toxic, DDOSing enemies and other stuff. He is doing well now, doesn't he? Past is past, deal with it. If past was the only factor in this, then Shaclone wouldn't be even allowed to open League page on his browser.
: Greetings. I have removed the screenshots you attached because they violate the [Universal Rules](http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/announcements-en/3eWpXbJi). Sorry for the inconvenience, have a nice weekend !
Great. How about you start punishing toxic people who behave against Summoner's Code? That sounds like a great idea if you want to enforce rules to be followed.
Namikage (EUW)
: Man, this is totally off topic mate. I feel like you have s.th against Blind Pick. You are simply taking this suggestion into another dimension it doesn't even bother with. And in terms of game-play percentage between Ranked, Draft Pick and Blind pick, I can assure you that Blind Pick is the most played PVP section in the game. And in terms of competition, I believe it depends on the players more than the modes they play in. And this takes us again to the player's experience and play style which again my suggestion doesn't even cover or affect. it's true having bans and countering certain champion selections may create an advantage but it doesn't win you the game for sure. I can also tell you that many players doesn't bother with that. Eventually, this game is a game after all. it is made for fun whether you win or lose. That's the heart of any game and this is no difference so don't take it that seriously. Thanks for your feedback and have fun!!!
...Are you even pretend to read? I told you that IMO your idea isn't good, because role selection isn't a problem. It's PART of the problem. And you seem to ignore my point only to avoid criticism of your idea. But whatever, if you don't wanna read someone's opinion, why bothering to create a thread?
Namikage (EUW)
: Well, unfortunately mate, whatever you are saying doesn't even fall close to what am suggesting. It's like you are saying that my suggestion can affect player experience which I can tell you it only depends on the player's experience and style. My suggestion doesn't even touch the corner of that. My suggestion would never improve someone's game-play style or experience cause that would be stupid to think that this small change will change that in any way. Would my suggestion affect the game in a certain way. Yeah it would, but not to that extent. I just believe if a player gets to choose his 2 primary lanes like in Draft pick and ranked, that will remove any kind of disappointment cause whether we like it or not, most players have at least 3 lanes that they can play in. And the level of comfort decreases from lane to another. Simply, My suggestion is about that, making players feel more comfortable playing Blind Pick. It's that simple.
And what I said shows - at least in my opinion - that adding something to blind pick wouldn't change the fact it's a blind pick. BLIND PICK is a problem. Entire game mode is a problem, that shouldn't exist. Riot said many, many times that they want to make league more competitive, even for non-pro players. And blind pick is opposite of that. How can I play this game, when I have no idea what Im playing? Building team is a big part of this game - if you kill that aspect of it, you turn this game into another version of ARAM.
: This is the reason why I ended up being a support main in most of the seasons while now I got to pick roles play top/adc primary. I really don't like role calling and it's the only aspect I really hope they change about blind pick. Unfortunately you can't do much about it than accept the situation and go with the flow if you want a toxic-free game. You'll have to accept that in blind pick you won't get your desired role most of the time unless you play with friends (recommended). {{summoner:31}}
: http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3449932
Players with faster load times shouldn't have an unfair advantage in Call Order ^^^ This. So how come being able to instalock faster due to loading time is fair? I feel like u tried to prove me wrong, yet you just gave me argument to back my point. Thanks.
: OK. Mind explaining why it's broken?
He probably missplayed his lane, got solokilled by Poppy without offensive items - or someone just played some sort of Cleaver/Hydra Tank Poppy and killed him. I mean, that's normally what happens when you say something's op.
Tarolock (EUW)
: then suck it up and w8 for the punishment to wear off, there is nothing you can do about it
> [{quoted}](name=Tarolock,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=qEcqjaRX,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-11-14T19:21:54.397+0000) > > then suck it up and w8 for the punishment to wear off, **there is nothing you can do about it** Exactly. That's the point of this thread. It's either I'm getting punished or I HAVE to give up role I have to play. I wouldn't mind if that happened once every 20 games or so, but it happens waaaaaaaaaaaaay too often. That's the thing here.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
It happened a few months ago and I told her to do it, but she didn't want to. And that's what I've heard on boards and multiple FB groups, so that's what I go by unless Riot member says otherwise.
sobi999 (EUW)
: What kind of rework Soraka needs?
Only thing I would change is lower HP cost for her heal. Besides that she is fine. Especially that itemization favors her so much lately.
GLurch (EUW)
: Yes, because of reports. But let's say, you aren't breaking any rules and get reported: reports will do nothing against you. Report doesn't equal ban. Rulebreaking and getting caught doing it does (yes, there are these very rare cases where people who didn't break any rules get punished, but it's very rare).
Unless Rioter comes here it and says its wrong - Reports actually get you banned. Once you reach certain number of reports in certain time frame, your account is flagged and you are being punished, no matter if those report were legit or someone just didn't like you so he reported you. I had a friend who doesn't speak english at all, so she doesn't use chat. She got punished for verbal abuse after a game. So yeah, getting banned for nothing isn't actually rare.
Tarolock (EUW)
: like any other mature ppl: play something that is still open what you get with this: 1. youll prolly be a little upset that you cant play on your desired lane 2. youll be able to play (which is kinda the whole point imo) 3. you wont have a punishment 4. letting the instalocker play on his lane prolly reduces toxicity (he is still toxic but he prolly wont intentionally feed/flame you all game) 5. its normal game, it doesnt matter if you win/lose so just use that time to learn a new role/champ which will help you in ranked
I did that a few times. For example I gave up my main role (Support) even though I had premade ADC, because someone didn't want to go top. So I went top, I didn't do well, I was like 0/2 in lane against lv7 Irelia and support started to spam "Report top for feeding noobs" in all chat. It makes no sense to let someone go into your role, knowing you will be flamed for it. And I don't want to play "leftovers" every game, I want to practice my mid and jungle champion pool for next season, to do well in ranked games.
: We posted yesterday that we are looking to address the ranked missmatch some players are facing. Additionally flex is not solo queue so be aware your solo queue ranked mmr is not the same as flex. Personally I'm really enjoying the challenge of these higher ranked players in my games. It's a great learning experience and I am really being put to the test even if I do get my butt kicked from time to time.
Dear Riot Cosantoir, I understand and support your point here. It is valuable lesson to be beat in lane in harsh way, because that shows me what kind of mistake I made, what I have to improve. Ok, so I got killed because I facechecked bush when enemy mid faked roam to botlane? Ok, next time I will ward it first. I lost because I pushed wave and now its frozen under enemy turret? Ok, I gotta work on wave management. As much I support this, being trashed in lane over and over and over again creates non-enjoyable and toxic atmosphere, in which players tend to tense up even more. Being matched against plat players as gold player is challenging, but being matched against much higher ELO players all the time means I have no time to actually improve, because Im getting smashed every time. I will see difference once I play 10 games against Diamonds and then against ppl on my ELO level - right, that will make a difference, because I will be used to playing against better players and I will see mistakes that enemy makes and I will use them against him, same as it was used against me. But learning experience has to be followed by period in which you can use that experience to actually improve yourself. That's the point here.
Namikage (EUW)
: [Suggestion] Adding Lane Picking To Blind Pick In PVP
Big part of Drafting is banning champions. I looooove playing Varus mid. I don't enjoy playing Varus mid into Syndra or Zed. I loooooooove playing Soraka, which is my main. I hate to play Soraka against Blitzcrank or Thresh. I started to play jungle and I want to learn more about it - but I don't want to play against Shaco all the time. I don't want to lose lane, because I picked ghost/flash on Varus mid not knowing I will play against Syndra mid and Elisse jungle. Because then I auto-lost my lane. Im not allowed to stand in the middle of my lane without wards in at least one side brush. Im not allowed to push Synda into her turret without my flash being up and wards on both sides of midlane. I simply autolose my lane, because I'm in highly dangerous matchup for me, without chance to even prepare myself (picking rune page with MR instead of CDR or something else, picking Cleanse against heavy CC mid/jungle combo), because then it becomes RNG game of luck. Now, explain to me how blind pick is a good thing and how it will prepare you for this amazingly exciting Zed Vs Zed midlane during ranked game.
Rioter Comments
Possible (EUW)
: I've never had 10min draft queues on euw
Lucky you, that's all I get on my smurf that I have on EUW. Plus, setting support/fill gets me jungle/mid almost exclusively.
Possible (EUW)
: You know they want to disable normal draft for every region? So that is a shit solution anyway. :P
No, they said "in ideal world" but Rioter on NA boards said its basically impossible for them now and they won't do it for a while. Turns out 10min Normal Draft Queues on EUW are fine and healthy in their opinion.
Dextix LT (EUNE)
: Orrrrr give everyone in EUNE free transfer to EUW, the objectively better server....
Actually I asked Riot through Support Ticket about it and they said no. Looks like they don't see how they made EUNE unplayable for so many players and they just want to make some extra money. #RiotListeningToPlayersIn2k16LUL
Rismosch (EUW)
: I know how to fix the EUNE Draft Mode Problem!
How to solve Normal Draft issue: Step 1. Enable Normal Draft in every region Step 2. Enjoy the game.
: > [{quoted}](name=Victusify,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=WbyU6ed8,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-11-12T15:50:47.616+0000) > > Flex Queue = Place to practice new champions and new roles > > There is no way flex queue will be in any way, shape or form legit place where people play to earn high ranks. Its gonna be a place to test new stuff, new builds and new roles. Because where else can I practice new midlaner, without risk of affecting my solo q mmr and rank? That's the only option left, so Flex Queue will be a joke - as Riot designed it to be. Flex is the new normal draft...
Yup, agreed. I kinda feel bad for people who will try to seriously climb Flex Q with friends.
Kraungard (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Victusify,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=WbyU6ed8,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-11-12T15:50:47.616+0000) > > Flex Queue = Place to practice new champions and new roles > > There is no way flex queue will be in any way, shape or form legit place where people play to earn high ranks. Its gonna be a place to test new stuff, new builds and new roles. Because where else can I practice new midlaner, without risk of affecting my solo q mmr and rank? That's the only option left, so Flex Queue will be a joke - as Riot designed it to be. It is also a replacement for our friend Normal Draft they took from us :D
Meh, Im tired of saying "give this man a cookie" so...*gives cookie* here, it's for you, mate.
: Huh? Excuse me, but what are normals for then?
Normals? Ow, you mean this EXCLUSIVE game mode that is available in only 3 regions? I don't know, we don't have it on EUNE so Idk why Riot decided to keep in game. I mean, only reason for Normal Draft in game now is to make 3 servers special and simply better to play at. Yes, I plan to move my main acc to EUW soon, since EUNE became unplayable for me. Thanks, Riot. Nice way to get more money out of some players.
ObeyNoOne (EUW)
: Players abuse the new flex to earn money/ items IRL.
Flex Queue = Place to practice new champions and new roles There is no way flex queue will be in any way, shape or form legit place where people play to earn high ranks. Its gonna be a place to test new stuff, new builds and new roles. Because where else can I practice new midlaner, without risk of affecting my solo q mmr and rank? That's the only option left, so Flex Queue will be a joke - as Riot designed it to be.
Eambo (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Capt Ahmad,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ELaNJLsb,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2016-11-12T00:33:24.286+0000) > > What about removing blind pick for normal draft? That will keep queues healthy in terms of balance/wait time... For regions other than NA/EUW/BR of course :) Blind pick (flaws and all) is one of the most played modes - on top of that normal draft has the requirements of minimum champion pool and certain levels - which would mean people with few champions or low level literally couldn't play. To make the level of changes needed to make this viable would be pretty big. Ultimately, we would like to take the best aspects of both normal queues (position preference from Normal Draft and less hardcore gameplay/speedy champion select from Blind Pick) into a single queue. That's definitely an avenue we're looking into as it solves a lot of problems with blind while keeping much of the benefits - but there's a lot of work involved in making that a reality, so we have no solid timeline on when that will happen (or if this is even how the end product would look)
So, you Riot is ok with people ruining Flex Queue for people who wants to climb with friends? Because Im sure as hell Flex Queue will be the place for me where Im gonna play my Azir for the first time. And I probably won't care how many people will lose RANKED games because of me, since I have no other way to practice new champions and new roles. Is that inside definition of "Healthy queue" in Riot's point of view?
: How about you just learn to play other roles, just imagine if everyone wanted to play jungle? everyone would just call it, instalock it, or flame for it. But *YOU* are the problem, just play a different role that is free, instead of dodging for not getting jungle, you're basically the same as them. or play Flex que where you can pick your role.
No, I can play other roles. I have no problem with that. But I just want to practice Jungle Olaf, that's literally only reason I queued up for this toxic game mode. So...since someone is just toxic and doesn't care about something as simple as call order, it's not my fault. I was first to call jungle, I get to play jungle. That's how blind pick works, my friend. So don't call me a problem since I follow the rules that community set for itself.
Oglaf (EUNE)
: @Riot - Normal Draft Removal & Transfer
No, you aren't. I wait for Support respond to my ticket about when will they enable transfers again and I want to ask them for possibility of free transfer due to Riot's decision that made EUNE unplayable for me. Im currently sitting on 15min queue delay (third in a row). I called jungle in all 3 champ selects, in first someone instalocked Rengar without a word. In another I called jungle, someone else called it and changed it to top after seeing I was first - but then someone just instalocked Rengar again and said "I jungle". After saying that Im jungle, not him, he called me "Dumb %%%%%%%%%%%%" and wished me to "get cancer bro" after I said I dodge. The third game was even better. I called jungle first, someone called it 3-4 seconds after me and Instalocked Rengar again. Is it only my view, or Rengar players are toxic? Now I have combined 35min queue delays because I refused to play with toxic players who have no respect for others and call order. I don't see how Riot sees Blind Pick as "healthy queue", when shit like that happens.
Rioter Comments
Metcol (EUNE)
: You are acting like silver is so much better then being unranked lul. Also you are talking about only your and your teams experience when there is an unranked player in your team, you don't even consider the possibility that the opposite team could have an unranked or you don't talk about it when only they have them. With your shtty attitude its better off if you leave the game cus i would bet that you are a pretty toxic player.
You went balistic here and ended rant with saying someone else is toxic...Just "wow". Yeah, wow.
: I think unranked players are initially given around silver elo. Frustrating, I know, but the system has to try them out somewhere - just remember it's only one game out of many.
I got Silver 3 in my first season and I played like shit, I think I had like 4 wins in placements. So yeah, sounds about right.
Rismosch (EUW)
: Mute Everyone by Default
u know that typing /mute all literally takes 2 seconds and you can do it right after loading on to the rift, right? Some people are just completly lazy...
Rioter Comments
DabThe2Key (EUNE)
: You have to understand the difference between supporting your team and disrespecting the enemy team. It's like calling out the enemy team in a ranked game you are winning (or in C9 case - losing)
Besides the fact that people Boo'ed SSG BEFORE games even started, because Crown called them out. But besides that, yeah, you are totally right. Besides the fact that you aren't. But that's ok, not everyone has to make sense, mate.
Kippiiq (EUW)
: -17 Downvotes LOL edit: -18 now
Yeah, 18 people are just butthurt that their C9 lost and are looking for anything else to not mention it. Kappa.
Fransiee (EUW)
: well booing is not really "showing their opinnion" LMAO
It's EXACT SAME THING that happens on football stadiums in Europe. I see no difference between those.
Yi Boi (EUNE)
: Creating Game (design)
This thread was made by Lee Sin. Like...how can you say new design is worse, if you aren't Lee Sin? You have to be blind~~
: read the post again
I did. Still don't get the point. Those people paid for tickets so they are allowed to show who they support. It's not cool to be boo'ed, sure - but you came to C9 country. It's kinda fn obvious how fans will react to "away" team. It's like that in any sport. Besides, like someone here mentioned - MooBeat explained the context of it. They boo'ed them based on video they showed before game 1, where one of Koreans said "Sorry, NA we came here to win". Yeah, they didn't like the confidence in SSG to beat their own team, so they boo'ed them. It. Is. Completly. Normal. Behaviour. Of. Fans. During. Sporting. Event. What's wrong about it?
: They got enraged after getting to watch the most brutal censored series.
Boo's happened BEFORE series started. After games, SSG got cheered. So yeah, your comment is pointless.
desalmada (EUW)
: what you expect? league of legends only for Koreans! i dont watch Worlds, couse only Koreans wins. {{champion:114}} you rito game
You sound like G2 fan. Salt is just flying from every hole of your body lol Why so salty, my friend?
DabThe2Key (EUNE)
: How to be the ultimate douchebag - by: NA fans
OMG THEY DARED TO SHOW THEIR OPINION ON SPORTING EVENT! HOW DARE THEY! ...like, really? EU has the biggest shit head in entire LoL community playing ADC for H2k and ppl from EU will say how bad NA ppl are for SUPPORTING THEIR TEAM? Correct me if Im wrong - is it bad to go to football game and support your own team? How's that different? And after the games they did cheer them, so what's your point?
Eambo (EUW)
: Quarter Draw - thoughts?
ANX will be in Semis. Its happening Wild Card team will make it to Semis this year. RIP H2k. lol
Draqone (EUW)
: That doesn't rhyme. Try harder. My main is Bronze five, so I bought an ELO boost. Now I die to every dive, and I keep on gettin deuced. We don't win a single fight. 'cuz team are all jerks You guessed it right, I am G2 Perkz.
You, my friend, are going up. xD
kurnubego (EUNE)
: Godg1ven outplays his lane opponent on his own, if he can rely on his team to keep the jungler pressure away. Or peel for heavier engagements. He likes to dictate pace of the laning which results in solid CS lead while also making opponent ADC significantly weaker for mid game. He's typical lane bully, who excells at .. bullying his lane opponents to submission and has the skills to do so. You point to aphromoo... but that's just totally different lane dynamic CLG has in bot lane not really comparable to H2k's. I'm not sure what you mean with poor "teamplay" or synergy. What we've saw with matches against EDG, they managed to very effectively convert their lane power to mid game vision control which resulted in objectives. Sure there were a few slips here and where, but they showed that they can work well together and move like a unit. With proper division in roles. Most surprising for me how team oriented Forg1ven play was mid game consistently keeping the pressure at lanes with traps to zone off opponents in order to allow his team to set up vision control. Just because you don't see flashy team plays, doesn't mean entire work is not coordinated, after all it's always more about pressure than anything else in terms of macro. And essentially, H2k with their tier breaker showed that they managed to OUT-MACRO Edward gaming (one of the top3 teams in worlds, by opinions of many analysts, known for their macro and ability to get back from gold deficits). So they sure do have potential and they are showing us something we haven't yet seen in summer split LCS. Points of worries would be... I'm not sure they would be able to pull this off if suddenly their laners start doing poorly. But in general, meta of western region was more lane focused, so I guess it's expected (east are more jungler focused, relying on ganks to create pressure in lanes, this may also explain, why jungler is given a hand, to outpressure opponent jungler, so lanes can be left alone. You'll see forg1ven constantly mock this gamestyle "2v3" or "double support". Same archetype who says come 1v1.. difference is, he gonna beat you to the ground if you do). Anyway, I hope they have more plans to fall back to, otherwise, the results might be very binary.
Ok, so let me explain what I meant. When you look at...idk, let's pick TSM because I think that can be a good example. Svenskeren while clearing his jungle is still doing "something". What I mean by that is, he is getting deep vision, he is looking for ganks, denying vision etc. When I see Jankos play I usually see him looking for his own kills. It's not a bad thing - like I mentioned, by getting himself rolling and going ahead he can force ganks or turn fights around thus pushing his team advantage. But it's very "I will get ahead and help you later" thing with him. I don't like that kind of thing, I just don't see how that's good strategy to go with for long stretches and against multiple different teams.
Draqone (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Victusify,realm=EUNE,application-id=N9uP9Byj,discussion-id=mcEtwUei,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2016-10-08T18:04:34.282+0000) > I just don't see how that team exists on the rift. Odo is really solid toplaner, kind of a guy who you aren't afraid off coming into the game but you also don't expect to stomp him in lane. Jankos - like I sad - is reckless in early game, often harming his own team. Ryu is not really consistent, he is "flip a coin" kind of guy. He can go 10-0-0 on Syndra in one game, just to be 0-10-0 in next game. I never got hype behind Forgiven. He is skilled ADC player, but he makes a lot of dumb decisions - like splitpushing lane without vision, or going in to fight when Vander or other teammates were too far to follow up on him. Vander is one of the best Supports EU has, but he is still not someone like Aphro - you just don't expect him to start big play or make one out of nothing. He is really good in terms of following on called shots and reacting to what enemy team does, but he lacks initiative to make something happen. Eh, I quite agree on Ryu, Jankos and Odoamne. On the botlane you missed the mark though. Yes, it makes great highlights if a support creates plays but sometimes it harms the team more than it helps. Most of a supports work is (not surprisingly) actually supporting. Forgiven is a good AD carry, someone worth peeling for. He is also pretty reckless and arrogant thinking he can carry every team fight. Many times frogiven is right but this means most of Vanders time is actually making sure that Forgiven can actually do his job. This in turn means Vander needs to peel and provide vision to deny flanks. That unfortunately doesn't make great highlights. In botlane you need synergy and it's quite obvious the H2K botlane does have that synergy. Forgiven simply wouldn't work with a playmaking support, I can't imagine him in a duo with Likkrit or Mata who frequently make plays rather than peel.
Mata over Vander? Give me that every day of the week, lol. It's not even clooooooose. But Vander still basically wastes a lot of his time, roaming with Jankos to protect him with his invades, that's why Forgiven is being caught out a lot being solo somewhere on the map. What you talk about is what Immortalz have right now, with Adrian being that peel/heal support for WildTurtle. But Turtle CAN CARRY every fight. He is that good of an ADC. He is as agressive - if not more - as Forgiven, but IMT creates him a spot where he can do it, with either Pobelter or Reignover being on a champions that can also either protect him or take enemies off of him, to make space for him to attack. Vander is type of a support like Adrian and H2k tries to play into that strenght, but Forgiven still has to know his limits. And he doesn't. He doesn't look if he has vision around himself, he often isn't aware of where his team is - that's why he ends up dead because of his own mistakes.
: 1- you will get what you deserve. 2- 1.6 billion is still earned. i did not say anything about profit. Profit wise they made 600 Million dollars US. which is still more than enough. 3- I am 20 years of age and already own 4 businesses and I am and forever will be ahead and more successful than you will ever dream of. So lazy, my friend is the wrong word to use.
...Yeah, I'm sure that #3 is true. I'm so happy for you, my child. So nice to see young people being so creative with their imagination. :) "They make billions off of us, might as well lend us a server." <-- That's what you originally wrote to me. " i did not say anything about profit." <-- Making money means profit. You don't make 1 million dollar, if you have to spend 500 000$ to make it. You MAKE 500 000$. So they didn't "make billions off of us". You just proved that you were wrong and you can't even cover for your own mistake. 600milions is still not "billions", that's once. Second, Riot is still company created to be profitable. If they don't see reason for them ($$$) to create another server, they won't. How much profit they made - 600 millions or 600 billions, has nothing to do with it. If they see something like Middle East server being non-profitable or profit would be too low, they won't do it. And if they didn't do it so far, I doubt it will happen any time soon.
: And that was the 2015 season alone
Should I hit you with dictionary or you will go and check what "revenue" means on your own? Revenue - an amount of money regularly coming in. So they earned 1.6 billion. Now, this what they earn. EARN. It's not PROFIT. Now go and find how much they SPEND in 2015 on salaries, advertising, LCS leagues, player's money, coaches' money, how much they paid for servers maintances and everything else they pay for. Gosh...some people are not only ignorant, but lazy as well...
: They make billions off of us, might as well lend us a server. I am from South Africa and if i get 200 ping then i am lucky
If you think Riot makes "billions" on this game, I'm not sure if you even looked up how big this company is and realize that all they have is one game. Check your facts before stating something like that.
: dude you are rly from poland or what just ryu and jankos play:))))))) from what planet you land ....they all play very good dont forget forgiven come back to h2k in last week of lcs ...what an idiot {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} "because Jankos or Ryu carried entire team".....what an idiot
Yes, I'm from Poland and looking at your post I don't know which country you represent. I will do my best and try to guess what you meant, because your post makes little to no sense at all. Jankos is a carry jungler. Typical carry jungler. He is hyper agressive early game, trying to get his lanes ahead or snowball himself - thus heling his team win, by being that big threat. That led - many times over LCS splits - to him dying in stupid ways, or just getting picked off in enemy jungle, handing over first blood and jungle control to enemy team. Ryu had his games where he just went off - but to balance those, he had many games where he was either non-existent on the map or was demoted to utility roles because he was behind. He probably won H2k as many games as he lost for them. I just don't see how that team exists on the rift. Odo is really solid toplaner, kind of a guy who you aren't afraid off coming into the game but you also don't expect to stomp him in lane. Jankos - like I sad - is reckless in early game, often harming his own team. Ryu is not really consistent, he is "flip a coin" kind of guy. He can go 10-0-0 on Syndra in one game, just to be 0-10-0 in next game. I never got hype behind Forgiven. He is skilled ADC player, but he makes a lot of dumb decisions - like splitpushing lane without vision, or going in to fight when Vander or other teammates were too far to follow up on him. Vander is one of the best Supports EU has, but he is still not someone like Aphro - you just don't expect him to start big play or make one out of nothing. He is really good in terms of following on called shots and reacting to what enemy team does, but he lacks initiative to make something happen. Overall H2k is solid team with 5 really, REALLY good players. But I just don't see any synergy on that team, besides Jankos&Vander roaming the map together or invading enemy jungle as a duo.
Lizard12345 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Victusify,realm=EUNE,application-id=N9uP9Byj,discussion-id=nZFUNEk8,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2016-10-08T12:36:19.884+0000) > > I hope there isn&#x27;t. They are suppose to crash and burn as soon as they leave that group. I&#x27;m not H2k hater, I just don&#x27;t like teams that can&#x27;t work together win any games. League is suppose to be about team work, not 5 single players playing together. What are you talking about? They played their games perfectly as a team. Idk what your problem with them is.
I explained what my problem is pretty clearly, shame you didn't bother to read it.
NCS VI (EUW)
: VI cant be cc:ed during her ult and the displace was vaynes condem. I am the VI in the video and i know for sure that i got stunned after that condem
OK, double checked it. You were right, she should be immune to CC. Now, it just matter of coding - if displacements aren't coded as CC (stuns etc), her immunity doesn't involve those. So I guess only Rioters can tell that. I still think its not a bug, but its just my opinion.
kurnubego (EUNE)
: Did you watched their games? All slow and methodical baron dances with vision control? Or synched movements of entire team as a unit?
I didn't watch it yet, I've heard they won their lanes and won games pretty easily - but its actually so hard for me to believe that squad like H2k knows what teamwork is. Too many times I've seen Jankos finish his jungle camps instead of helping teammate who was fighting literally 10-50 units away from him, or seeing Jankos diving ppl like 3 between 2 turrets, or Forgiven splitpushing solo on the other side of the map without wards...its just look like SoloQ team. Only teamwork they have is Vander and Jankos and that's because they are both polish and its easy for Support to work with his jungler in pro-scene, where ADC knows how to stay safe and control waves so SUpport can roam.
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