HarrowR (EUNE)
: If you cause a dent in the armor,depending where the dent is of course,you most likely broke a bone or two and caused internal injury,so yeah,maces were used more than just making armor wearers uncofmortable
Indeed. I was refering to a small dent (like tiny) but yes depending on the dent you can do some pretty bad dmg to your opponent which is why the ability scales with armour mostly but never does much dmg to be op since on adc's that don;t have much of it it deals less dmg. It's mostly catered to dealing a goo chunk of dmg to tanks like Cho, Shen etc.
Mada (EUW)
: Yeah, that's what the squires were for: if the knight falls off his horse, get him out of his armour because suffocation is not fun. But this is a game! It has to be fun. Getting punished for trying to protect yourself is _not_ fun!
You don't get punished, it doesn't scale much. After all your 1st sweep is the one that deals the most dmg the second will be mostly used for the knockback. Keep in mind that this champs strength doesn't just rely on his abilities but also his structures which means that his abilities won't scale as much as they do for most champs. Also % health true dmg is even more of a punishment (looking at you vayne and co.)
Mada (EUW)
: dealing physical damage scaling with enemy armour is funny but I think "flat max health true damage" is funnier
I made it scale with armour because 1) you are correct and 2) War hammers are essentially bashing tools. You can't pierce armour that easily so people in medieval and later ages used things like this or polearms or maces to deal concussion dmg or possibly even cause dents in the armour making it uncomfortable or even painful to wear.
Rioter Comments
: I was like 3 trophies away for platinum, all of them being gwent trophies, so I went into a second walkthrough just for gwent :p Wasnt interested at first, I get bored of card games in general.
Yea when I played games like Hearthstone I enjoyed them at first but then I got bored of them. But not Gwent. Was in since the Closed Beta and I still play.
: Bruh that would be awesome, I remember I had to win the tournament for the platinum trophy it was hard af xD
You played on the Gwent Tournament? Nice! I never played competitive, just for fun. But yea a LoL themed Gwent-like game would be awesome.
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: yes i always wondered about this plothole, like when one is so advanced, uses guns, creates robots, uses chemweapons etc, one fight with swords and bows, but all sayd i wouldnt realy like seeing gun wielding champ from nioxus or demcia, it jsut kinda kills the theme i realy enjoy also not fan of physical guns, besides lucian maybe{{sticker:vayne-pose}}
Kill's the theme? Eh, kinda. Depends on the scale at which you implement it though. If Riot changed EVERY Noxian to carry guns it would suck. But having 1 champ to at least show that they don't live in the stone-age anymore would be much better.
: True, they have the biggest military presence, and that's the problem. I did a little digging: In Jhin's story, he says that his gun is different from the guns in Piltover because his use more magic than the guns there, meaning all guns in this universe use some sort of magic source( always asked yourself why GP fires a gun and it costs mana? now you know). The only sources of magic we know of in Piltover is the Hextech Crystals, and the synthetic ones made for the lack of crystals. In order to create so many guns, even for a few fleets, would require a mass harvest of those crystals, meaning they would have to fight with Piltover or at least try to figure out how to make the synthetic ones, which again, lots of money and time just for some guns to a few fleets. moreover, it would make their magical force USELESS, since why would they like to find and hire mages if they can just take some people in their empire and give him a gun that works on cheaper magic? LeBlanc, Vladimir, even Swain would become unnecessary. Even better, If they do create those guns that use magic, they will have a disadvantage against Demacia, because A. pretty sure every Demacian can just block a bullet with their muscles, I mean Garen takes knifes and arrows to the face all all the time and B. DEMACIA IS KNOWN FOR THEIR ARMOR AND WEAPONS THAT NULLIFY MAGIC. So yeah. no guns for Noxus. Not now, at least.
Thing is just like you said "In Jhin's story, he says that his gun is different from the guns in **Piltover**". GP lives in Bilgewater and uses mana for his oranges too which are magical and grow out of his butt. Yes the weapons in Piltover are magic-based, yes Demacian's have magic blocking armour and yes Demacian's have killer abs and muscles. But Bilgewater has physical guns that work with gunpowder that and we know that GP has barrels of it (literally). Same thing with MF (also in MF splash you can see a cannon behind her having smoke come out of it because it uses gunpowder not magic). Also Bilgewater is in not so good terms with Noxus because GP beats the crap out of them in the sea (he once stole Swain's ship which Swain didn't like). It's obvious that the only people like GP have an upper hand on them is because of the usage of firearms which is a far more effective long range weapons than the bow and especially the melee weapons. Oh and Garen's armour doesn't block headshots so Noxians could literally with a mildly competant shooter take out one of Demacia's most admired heroes before he can even charge into battle aka they win big-time. Edit: Also forgot to mention that LB, Vlad, and Swain are ALREADY useless since Demacian's have magic absorbing armour..........and Galio.......who is made from magic absorbing Petricite.....so.....yea.... The only reason Swain and the rest would NOT lose their power is because Swain is the Grand General (so what he says happens) and LB and Vlad are part of the Black Rose so they all rule Noxus and are so secretive that even Noxus itself doesn't know they exist.
: I reckon it's just a matter of money, I mean look at everyone who owns a gun: Jhin has patreons, Caitlyn comes from a rich family, lucian got his as he got accepted to his job, Urgot proabaly stole his, GP had to oder his in a spcial order and being the cheap prick he is actually SHOT THE MAKER, MF only repaired hers and Kled and Jinx are nuts( HOW IS SHE CARRYING A ROCKET LAUNCHER AND MINI GUN, PLUS GRENADES AND A TASER?!) besides, it'll be hard to change the training classes, fleets forms and positions in order to give them guns. now I'm not someone who'll complain about guns( look at my name lol) but from a logical standpoint, it'll be too costly and time consuming to give the Demacian and Noxian fleet slodiers guns. that being said, WE NEED MORE GUNS RIOT WORK ON THAT ASAP!!
Yea, but Noxus is an EMPIRE with the biggest military presence in Runeterra! I highly doubt they couldn't fund a new project that could help them conquer even more lands (possibly including their main rival, Demacia).
: Like I said, you are asking questions that do not matter for the purpose of what League is. As for the movie or even tie in books, I think there are two bigger problems that are underlying the League's lore. First - lore is mostly static. This is what you mentioned already, but it needs to be mostly static. Riot can't change status quo in any radical way without removing lore even further from the gameplay, which is something they don't seem to be willing to do at this pont at least. Think about it - the biggest change that happened to the lore was Bilgewater event and nothing on this scale was ever tried afterwards. Any big story line would require at least some changes to status quo. Character death is out of question, but any sort of character developement is going to be difficult to combine with static character of gameplay itself from the story perspective. Second - lore is too unstable. At any time anything is liable to be retconned. It has been a while since the Institute of War has been written out of existance, but some of the issues crated back then still remain, looking at you Jax. And then we get reworks and re-releases. There is no guarantee that character who shows up in a movie won't return with completly different backstory, like suddenly being a demon or developing some sort of Nietzschean philosophy. This risk is relatively lower for iconic characters, but who can take whom will the devs find obsolete in two years or three? The very lack of internal consistency is much bigger problem than lackadaisical attitude towards keeping social and historical developements on Runeterra realistic.
I don't disagree with what you say since I also said some of it but I think it could be possible for riot to change the lore from time to time to sort of show a progression along with the game such as during reworks, events etc. For example if a rework is strictly gameplay related such as xin zhao's it could be accompanied with a story that could provide some chracter development for him and if possible (in the case of xin there wasn't much change) provide some insight into the reasons his gameplay changed through the lore. It would be like changing the classic skin of GP at the end of the bilgewater event only it would be gameplay related aswell instead of just as part of a visual update. What I am trying to say is that Riot can do it if they want to since it is plausible (especially with say the new Swain rework) but it is their choice. Would be cool if it did though but seeing how much work must be put into it, I don't think they will do it. Still... one can hope.
: I think you are expecting way too much out of what is basically excuse to add cool characters to a video game. It's a bit like watching a porn and asking why the movie did not delve into a marital issues of the woman who has taken a repair guy to bed. Why is she looking for sex among service industry workers? Does she has a husband she's cheating on? If so, what's the problem in their marriage? All the questions make sense when it comes to telling a good story, except that's not what people are watching this specific type of movies for... Same with expecting any sort of logical progression of history in League. It'd make sense to explore how guns change Valoran... except that's not what people are here for. But I strongly recommend _Shadows of Apt_ or anything by Brandon Sanderson to you, given the questions you are willing to ask for something as flimsy as League's lore I think you'd like them.
Seems cool might even order the first book today as I really like these kinds of stories. Back to the topic though, I understand your point of view, but I think that at least some story progression would be necessary if Riot ever wants to make a movie (a stale timeline would make for an awefully boring movie) and yes they might use history that alerady exists eg Shurima, Rune Wars, Freljord etc. Thing is as the lore currently stands none of them has an end, Shurima is reborn with Azir, the war over Freljord ensues and the Rune Wars (although over) are finished because Ryze's mentor decided to chase those runes down and place them in a safe place (a duty which now Ryze himself has so the story still goes on). [](https://pvplive.com/c/riot-open-to-possibility-of-a-league-of-legend). For such a thing to occur the story has to be open-ended (at least most of the time) something that league lore is not. But take bits of it and you can create movies from it eg Viktor's bio could show him from his young age all the way to when he is crushed by his lab (but not killed, but you never tell that directly to the audience you instead leave hints such as news outlets saying that no bodies were found etc etc). If it is a possibility for league to come to the big screen I doubt most people would care about the Rune Wars as they took place way before most of the current champs were even born, so it would need to be something closer (and yes there is always the chance of there being no movie but there is a chance). I understand your logic and it does make sense, but considering that weapons in other regions are so advanced (meaning that they have evolved over a long period of time) it is wierd how Demacia or Noxus haven't even tried to implement them all this time into their armies even if they decide they don't want them later.
: League is a style over substance setting. In a proper fantasy story, with an actual progression of events an attempt to explore how introducing certain elements into a setting, guns in this example, would be called for. I recommend _Shadows of Apt_ series as a great example of that. They focus quite a bit on how new technologies completly transform the way war is fought. Back to the League though, we get champions using all sorts of obsolete weapons and styles, because it's cool. Noxus and Demacia not having any gunslingers is a stylistic choice more than anything. Demacians are the "knights in shining armor" type faction and Noxus are more of "Black Knight; Skulker in the Shadows". Guns don't obviously mix with any of those. This does not preclude us seeing a gun toting champion from Noxus though, given that we have a gun wielding psycho from Ionia ({{champion:202}} ) and sort-of a gun kata practitioner from Demacia ({{champion:236}})
Fair enough I understand the idea of wanting to preserve that style that Riot created for them, but with events like Bilgewater it seems like they do want to move the story forward, in the sense that it is no longer a timeless world but a living one. I don't want them to go full-out guns, I also really enjoy the respective themes and styles but I just can't understand why none of those 2 would at least try the weapons to see their effect and maybe the champ could be released in a Noxus v Demacia event. I get that their styles are basically remnants for the old lore of league but since they are changing it to a more story orriented lore with progression in the world happening through event, comics and videos I can't see why such an important topic hasn't been taken into account. It's not like guns in that world are primitive either, we got shotguns, sniper rifles, pistols, gatling guns etc. so it's not like the technology isn't advanced. And again I don't want everyone to get guns just possibly 1 champ maybe from a division that was created to test these weapons in war by the Noxians, maybe all the others except 1 died and they deemed it not worth to consider and that 1 guy goes on to being a Noxian mercenary or lone wolf of some sort. I understand if they say: "We tested it and it didn't work". But telling me that they have infiltated all levels of Piltover in a future attempt to capture it and they didn't realise that firearms are their enemy's weapon is just stupid. It's like me trying to kill someone with knife and pretending to befriend him while completely ignoring that he carries a gun around wherever he goes. It's suicide.
: Guns might simply harder to mass-produce. Noxus and Demacia may also have a deep set martial tradition, meaning they are not as eager to break away from tried and tested ideas. Bows allow arc-firing.
Any facility in Zaun can more than easily mass produce firearms for the right amount of coin. Also regarding the tradition, I get it, they like to stick to the "classics" but that is stupid since it only causes them to stay behind technologically. At least have 1 squad of gunner just to try the weapons and see their effectiveness. Also arch-firing is pretty much useless against plate armor and in the video for "Heroes Never Die" we see that Demacians use a tactic similar to the Roman testudo formation (shields covering a section of soldiers almost completely preventing arrows and other similar projectiles from hitting them which a rifle could easily take care of). Also in the LoL Wiki section for Demacian lore we see the following: > Some suggest that the golden age of Demacia has passed and unless it is able to adapt to a changing world - something many believe it is simply incapable of doing - that its decline is inevitable.
: urget {{champion:6}} {{champion:6}} {{champion:6}} {{champion:6}} {{champion:6}} {{champion:6}} {{champion:6}} {{champion:6}} kled {{champion:240}} {{champion:240}} {{champion:240}} {{champion:240}} {{champion:240}} {{champion:240}} {{champion:240}} but I personally like the idea of not every champion having a gun because that would kinda make the game lame {{sticker:sg-ahri-3}}
I am not saying EVERY champ having a gun but other than kled who only has a pistol (plus he is a yordle so not even Noxian) no-one else does (and Urgot got his shotgun legs is Zaun and currently lives in Zaun so he doesnt count). It just the fact that I find it wierd for such powerful nations not to have adopted a weapon that can give them an advantage in most military situations
: > [{quoted}](name=alkamlBan,realm=EUNE,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=q1rI6XmI,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-09T09:32:07.117+0000) > > Noxians used to kill Demacians with magic before Demacia was even a thing. Heck Galio and Demacians walls and their steel have magic absorbing capabilities which is the reason they were used in the first place (Demacia does have a magic wielding society but most magic wielders are exiled or executed so it's quite secretive). As a result, you can imagine the disadvantage Noxians are at when they fight Demacians. This could easily make a person like Swain try to find a non-magic alternative and firearms are a perfect fit. After all we know that Noxians don't have a problem using other people's weaponry like in the battle with Ionia where Singed provided them with weapons he made (presumably poison or other alchemicals but it could be something else too). That would be the logical thing to do, yes. That could be a new addition to the lore, about how the Noxian military is adopting wide spread use of firearms at the behest of Swain, and how they are equipping conscripts with mass produced, crude flintlocks or whatever it is that MF and Gangplank uses. An experimental hextech rifleman regiment would also be fluffy. That combines Noxian sorcery with tech. The idea is that they use a magic to make what is basically a railgun, firing a solid, magic sheathed projectile at high speeds. As its still physical, magical defenses would have no effect. There could be a noxian champ that uses exactly that; maybe something of a Simo Haya jungler expy, who uses a rifle and picks off targets from bushes or stealth or something.
Hextech technology is based on the usage of Hextech Crystals (the things that Scarner has) as a power source since they are really power demanding (and as a result is mostly used by Piltovians or Zaunites like Jayce and Viktor respectively). That said, Camille's family buisness is making synthesized Hextech Crystals which although less powerful can do the job for most situations. So yea your idea could work. Heck, Zaunites could make the weapon designs for the Noxians as the two nations are on good terms.
: > [{quoted}](name=alkamlBan,realm=EUNE,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=q1rI6XmI,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2017-11-09T08:41:17.925+0000) > > Not all of them wield magic though and even less in Demacia where practicing magic is banned and their steel has magic absorbing capabilities. I do believe that Swain would be smart enough to see the strength of equipping some Noxian divisions with guns instead (after all he is pretty damn smart and had always tried to achieve victory by any means), and maybe that is all we need, Noxus trying to create a new military division and one of them is our new champ. Would be very interesting imo and could maybe adopt a more tactical type of gameplay compared to your regular adc (trying to flank opponents, shooting from huge distances, etc). Huh, magic is banned in demacia? I guess Lux is an outlaw then. Then again, I don't know much about Demacian lore. I'm more familiar with Zaun and Noxus. Yeah, I can totally see Swain doing that. He does strike me as being like Nobunaga, who was also a ruthless bastard and brilliant tactician.
Noxians used to kill Demacians with magic before Demacia was even a thing. Heck Galio and Demacians walls and their steel have magic absorbing capabilities which is the reason they were used in the first place (Demacia does have a magic wielding society but most magic wielders are exiled or executed so it's quite secretive). As a result, you can imagine the disadvantage Noxians are at when they fight Demacians. This could easily make a person like Swain try to find a non-magic alternative and firearms are a perfect fit. After all we know that Noxians don't have a problem using other people's weaponry like in the battle with Ionia where Singed provided them with weapons he made (presumably poison or other alchemicals but it could be something else too).
: In fictional lore, often fantasy related, people often wield superhuman strength and reflexes. The reason for guns, particularly gunpowder ones, being superior, is simply that they need less skill to use, nothing else. Bows are superior in that you can arc your shots for instance, making you able to shoot over a shield wall. Vayne uses crossbows because of the silver bolts probably, great in monster hunts. But generally speaking, it doesn't make sense that Vayne can shoot 2.5 bolts per second, when traditionally crossbows were maybe able to shoot once per 8 seconds, if you stood still and cocked your crossbow. Vayne can apparently reload while tumbling around, so that's not very realistic. So I think the easiest way to explain all this, is that Runeterra is a magical world where anything can beat anything. Where swords make your arrows hurt more, and where boots make flying machines go faster.
Thing is, what works in the game doesn't necessarily work in the lore (though Corki can use the boots as fuel for his thrusters). I am not talking about someone having a gun just because guns are better irl but because when even just a division of shooters is combined with the rest of the army it opens up many more possibilities. Think of the Demacian's for instance they don't like magic because Noxians used to chase them and kill them with it before Demacia was even created. Their armor has magic absorbing capabilities and they have built a gigantic behemoth to take care of enemy mages on the battlefield. They would benefit extremely from having guns in their ranks as an alternative to magic.
: > [{quoted}](name=Zantonny,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=q1rI6XmI,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-11-09T05:37:29.858+0000) > > I mean... if we loo at firearms being integrated into Japan by the British, they dismissed firearms as a cowards weapon. Combat was a test of skill and honour, and a firearm required no skill and therefore was dishonourable. > > Also at the time, bows had a way better range than guns did and were able to be fired and reloaded much quicker. Guns were also dangerous, and would blow up in the gunman's hands pretty often. Not true, actually. For starters, the firearm was introduced by the Portuguese, not the British, in the 16th century during a civil war known as the Sengoku Jidai. During the Sengoku jidai the gun was widely adopted by the clans, often given to Ashigaru (basically peasant infantry) but samurai used it as well. Oda Nobunaga is known to be particularly ahead of his time in this regard, making sure that nearly every soldier had a gun and even adopted tactics to use it efficiently. The tanegashima is a japanese matchlock that was reverse engineered from arquebuses bought from the portuguese, and many swordsmiths became gunsmiths due to the demand of firearms. At some point the Japanese had more firearms than Europe at that time, which considering the relatively smaller population is quite impressive. The idea that the japanese did not like the gun because of "honor" is laughable in this regard, as there is clear historical evidence to the contrary. Not to mention that despite what hollywood and anime would have you believe, the favored weapon of japanese medieval warfare was the bow and the spear, not the katana. The whole Katana is the soul of the samurai thing primarily originated from long after this war, during a time of peace, when the role of the samurai was on the decline. The reason why Japanese firearms were so primitive in the 19th century was due to Japan being an isolationist country in a period of peace. There's no reason to build better guns if there's no war to fight or no introduction of tech from foreign powers, and at that time the Shogunate frowned upon all contact with foreigners, so supporters of the shogunate wouldn't want to be associated with foreign tech or culture. Not everyone in Japan was like that though; there were quite a few modernists, and what's notable about the Boshin war was that the Imperial supporters were much more accomodating to foreign influence. So yeah, the reason why they didn't really (with the exception of some pro-modernisation factions) borrow weapon tech from the Brits and Americans wasn't so much due to honor but more to do with xenophobia and a resentment towards the Western powers forcible contact with them. On topic - the reason why Noxians and demacians don't use guns is probably because they have access to magic. There's no need to worry about getting shot if you can engage the enemy in a blink of an eye or summon a big ass laser beam out of nowhere. That said, I do believe Kled is considered a Noxian, even though he's a yordle. He uses a shotgun, iirc. It would be nice to see more gun wielding champs though. Maybe a noxian rifleman who hunts people for sport or something. That sounds like a noxian thing to do.
> [{quoted}](name=CthuluIsSpy,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=q1rI6XmI,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-11-09T07:50:54.156+0000) > > On topic - the reason why Noxians and demacians don't use guns is probably because they have access to magic. There's no need to worry about getting shot if you can engage the enemy in a blink of an eye or summon a big ass laser beam out of nowhere. > That said, I do believe Kled is considered a Noxian, even though he's a yordle. He uses a shotgun, iirc. > It would be nice to see more gun wielding champs though. Maybe a noxian rifleman who hunts people for sport or something. That sounds like a noxian thing to do. Not all of them wield magic though and even less in Demacia where practicing magic is banned and their steel has magic absorbing capabilities. I do believe that Swain would be smart enough to see the strength of equipping some Noxian divisions with guns instead (after all he is pretty damn smart and had always tried to achieve victory by any means), and maybe that is all we need, Noxus trying to create a new military division and one of them is our new champ. Would be very interesting imo and could maybe adopt a more tactical type of gameplay compared to your regular adc (trying to flank opponents, shooting from huge distances, etc).
: Historically, the reason for guns being favored over bows was that their projectiles packed way more punch in a smaller, easier to use package. Now ingame, ask yourself, what do you fear more: a GP wailing Q after Q at you or a Vayne with her crossbow AAing you to death in 1-2seconds?
I am not talking about current champions but rather about it working as part of the lore for a new champ and also the fact that in the lore not Noxus nor Demacian not only use but even acknowledge the existance of firearms despite all of the above and stuff like Hextech Revolvers etc. etc. Its more of a lore-related thing rather than a gameplay idea but it could serve as part of a background story for a new champ from these regions.
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: We still need an R for your champ tho... It's hard to think of one for a champ like this.... Oh by the way maybe u should add an interaction with mundo too, as he also was messing up stuff with dna by using certain enhancement drugs, mundo's like the zaunite counterpart of niwrad Can't think of a line this quickly tho
Good idea I shall consider it but its 1 AM over here so I will go take a nap :| I will have plenty of time to think of it tommorow. About the R I was thinking maybe something more...extravagant though I need to work on it.
: U're really boosting my ego here :p I just enjoy helping and giving feedback on champ ideas, i suck on making them myself, but give me something to work around and i'll come up with some stuff :p Did it here too this evening: http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-creations-en/3tMJfPRF-champion-that-could-fit-in-leagues-lore The passive, w and shen interaction are mine, what do u think of those? :p By the way i'm quite sure my term specimen was correct and speciment isn't i could be mistaken tho, and upon the killing gnar line i think u mean creature instead of creator (i'm srry i'm a bit of a grammar and spelling nazi xD)
By creator I mean his "DNA" aka his predecessors although it is a bit too "blurry" so I changed it.
: U're really boosting my ego here :p I just enjoy helping and giving feedback on champ ideas, i suck on making them myself, but give me something to work around and i'll come up with some stuff :p Did it here too this evening: http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-creations-en/3tMJfPRF-champion-that-could-fit-in-leagues-lore The passive, w and shen interaction are mine, what do u think of those? :p By the way i'm quite sure my term specimen was correct and speciment isn't i could be mistaken tho, and upon the killing gnar line i think u mean creature instead of creator (i'm srry i'm a bit of a grammar and spelling nazi xD)
Well you did in-fact suggest them so the credit goes to you after all thats why I asked for helped as I can't really think anything really specific.
: Oh, i like yours :p Btw maybe another one upon dieing to gnar: NO, I CANNOT... Let this species... Go to... Waste.... (after every ... Toning down the volume a bit, and ofc a small delay in speaking, as that's what ... Stands for)
Like it WAY more than mine xD gonna replace it with yours ASAP!
: I likz the way that u changed my e idea :D this seems nice Btw thx for the credit ^^ appreciate it Btw what's your opinion on the gnar interaction i proposed? (i don't mean that u should use it btw, i just want your opinion :p)
Added them along with a death one I made up (although I don't really like mine)
alkamlBan (EUNE)
: Updated it with your W and changed the E so that it doesn't reveal enemies but only shows their positions on the map and fog of war (basically you know the position but not who he is) It can be useful late-game where the enemies might be waiting for you to take Baron or just walk through the jungle.
Also gave yuo credit on the bottom :)
: Oh wow yea, forgot about that xD holy damn xD The difference would be that the enemy couldn't see they were being revealed, at least that's what i thought
Updated it with your W and changed the E so that it doesn't reveal enemies but only shows their positions on the map and fog of war (basically you know the position but not who he is) It can be useful late-game where the enemies might be waiting for you to take Baron or just walk through the jungle.
zidic (EUW)
: I am kinda tired of any champion with a "z,x,y,w" in their name
Me too the only reason I named him like that is because it spells "Darwin" in reverse which was the inspiration behind him
Kurzy (EUW)
: its not bundle city XD its bandle city.... do your research before you make champ suggestions because otherwise your just wasting your time
My mistake, haven't read anything LoL related in a while so mistakes can happen thanks for pointing it out though
: I love how he's a yordle from bundle city, did he ever think about moving to bandle city? :p On a more serious not now, some possible suggestions W: Bionic reshuffle (cannot be used on himself) Niwrad fires a dart with foreign DNA into an unit, reshuffeling their genetic structure for a momen Used on an enemy champion: Lowers their ap and ad by 5/10/15/20/25% and slows them for 30/45/60/75/90 flat movement speed for 4 seconds Used on ally champion: Reverse effect from enemy champion Used on neutral monster: Damages the neutral monster for 8/14/20/26/32% of their current hp (capped at 150/225/300/375/450 dmg) and lowers their damage done by 35% for 5 seconds E: Tracker (as he does everything in order to track gnar) Because of his knowledge of organisms, he recognises certain smells and forms of footsteps of varying creatures, upon use he reveals enemy champions within 500,750,1000,1250,1500 units distance and gains 20/23/26/29/32% movement speed when moving towards them Reveal lasts 3 seconds, when in actual vision range the chase can last up to 5 seconds No idea for an ult tho, can't help u there, i hope these things helped tho By the way, interaction with gnar: finally, after all this time... Let me dissect you, fine specimen Upon killing him: Now i'll see what complex mechanism allows you to change forms (laugh maniacally) Also i'd like the idea of gnar dropping 1 more thingy for your passive
Really cool idea I will add it although I might consider slight changes to his E as it is very similar to Warwicks W
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