FleaLess (EUNE)
: but its your choice to accept the invite, so its up to you if you accept them or not, in this case its YOUR fault that he is toxic to you, so in a sense you should be punished for it and i did not say that you can flame hard in private chat, its just you accepted it and riot dont have much power over private chats since its PRIVATE
So, if u invite someone to ur house, and this guy suddenly gonna punch ansd rob u, it's all okay, cuz u let him enter, right?
Febos (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Zeko11,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=IWFO1yyN,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-07-21T01:43:34.899+0000) > > 1-Does Riot have the right to ban someone from the game for chatting ?! Let me answer that question with a question: Do you have the right to kick me out of **your** house if I start misbehaving? Same deal here. Riot's house, rather **our** house, so **our** rules. *** > [{quoted}](name=Zeko11,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=IWFO1yyN,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-07-21T01:43:34.899+0000) > > 2-Is this the way they want to improve their community ?! It has been working though. There will always be bad apples, but at least we can pluck them out of the tree faster and let them to rot with the rest. *** > [{quoted}](name=Zeko11,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=IWFO1yyN,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-07-21T01:43:34.899+0000) > > 3-How do you suppose us to deal with %%%%%%s who start insulting us ?! You don't. You simply ignore and move on with your life. Honestly, if you feel like someone stranger on the internet that insults you deserves your attention, then I don't know what to tell you. It's part of "being an adult". You don't need to defend your "honour" in every situation. No one really cares about that stuff on the internet, because no one knows you. Anonymity is a blessing... and a curse.
Still, what about the part of "the feeders" but i'd rather call it "trolls". You won't tell me that riot deals with that.
Gabresol (EUW)
: Why am I not banned?
Believe it or not, but once i got the chat restriction for 10 gasmes, cuz i was toxic in 3 games. The 3rd game which was taken as a toxic game contained a single "hi" in the whole match.
FleaLess (EUNE)
: there is no need to report that, because YOU accepted his invite, why would you accept a friend invite from a guy you just had to mute in your game... it is your own fault
So, as long as riot is not watching, we are allowed to flame hard, using all these "%%%" etc. So tell me again that Riot fights with the toxicity IN OVERALL, not only in game (well, menu-chat is a part of the game too).
: you trying to say i didnt? because i think i got myself into that.
Btw. No ure not right, it's not working good, cuz of a single "idiot" written in the game u can get the same punishment like u received after 3 games and 500 words.
ßlade Ł9 (EUNE)
: I got just 2 accounts banned for inting,and not even one of them was permanent,i just got an 14 days ban and then i would just flame and int again =)).
U have been banned not for inting, but for **flaming** while inting. That;s the diffrence. Now go and troll quietly. I know u won't be banned.
: So in other words, you're saying that bronze 3 and below areexempt from punishing inting. What could possibly go wrong? {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
I mean, i don't know the reality of this magic division, so i just came up that 10 lose streak is very possible when they can have a 15% winrate w/o trolling.
Rismosch (EUW)
: Back in the day there was a thing called tribunal. Real people would determine the punishments of reported players. While it may be true that it was more accurate, it was incredibly slow. The new instant feedback system works much much faster.
For sure not if we talk about trolling.
: It is ridiculous to ask riot to manually review games given lol s sheer current population
Sure, we don't know the amount of people who actually makes 10 lose streak. Let's say this system wouldn't notice players from bronze III, IV and V.
Rioter Comments
Hansiman (EUNE)
: It's not a case of "which would you rather want". We don't want any of them, because they both ruin our experience of the game.
Still, i'd rather play with 26:7 1v9 Evelynn who still carries us, but calls us a trash (which we actually are comparing to her) than a troll 0:10 disco nunu, who ruins ur game, spams his mastery/thumbs up/dance who makes ur game unplayable.
Yraco (EUW)
: I think you misunderstand a bit, saying nothing all game then at the end going "ez" once is not going to get you a permaban. You're only really going to be punished if you are also flaming as well as that. Ez adds up to a chat restriction or ban if you're toxic with it but doesn't cause a ban on it's own.
In conclusion, if i play 100 games in a row, being quiet this whole time, ending up every match with a single "easy" at the end of a match, i'll never be punished. In conclusion, "ez" is not punishable, that's why i'm saying that Riot is a fkin liar. The fact u gonna say "ez" or not at the end doesn't matter, if u were toxic during the match. U will be punished for ur toxicity, "ez" won't change anything at this point.
Glaiver (EUNE)
: Seeing people say "ez" doesn't bother me that much anymore, it's just sad, I just pity them
I'll tell u a better joke, Rioters says, that saying "ez" is bannable.
: How can it happen that after hundreds of reports and 0% winrate with nunu out of 43 games he is still allowed to play? Seems like a scenario for which the auto detection system should quickly find trolling behavior?
But yea, keep believing, that Riot punishes trolls like they say XD
Lantami (EUW)
: Most people, yes. But you seem to ignore that there are a lot of mentally unstable people who might actually hurt themselves over something like this. I wouldn't want to be even partly responsible for this because I thought: "It's no big deal to me, so why should I bother?" and I can certainly understand that a company like Riot wouldn't want to be a part of this too. From a humanitarian perspective as well as from juridical one.
> that there are a lot of mentally unstable people who might actually hurt themselves And this is a pure bulls..t created by media and political correctness.
PhantomBD (EUW)
: What happened to the Riot judgement about behavior?
Just clearly unbind your enter button guys, pointless using this garbage chat, if u can get banned for 1 word instantly (not in that case, but in overall yea, 1 bad word is enough). If Riot puts it like this, just don't use chat guys.
: Develop a ban system that doesn`t treat people like children? Apparently the only thing you`re allowed to say in this game, is kind words - but not too much of that either before it turns into spam and that makes you a negative influence! Doesn`t it bother any of you that Riot is the only company to enfore such ridicolous ban rules, yet you can still play on other accounts? So basically you can get a new chance, as long as you fund us by purchasing RP. Start punishing inters, trolls and the really hard flamers. Competetive people saying things that are close to the line shouldn`t equate to punishment. In fact, the fact that Riot enforces such a strict and imo ridicolous set of chat rules only makes the community more toxic. It`s dumb and a good business strategy since Riot knows most people will make a new account and put RP into it since they just lost an account that had champs and skins on it - and they want to speed up things.
> Develop a ban system that doesn`t treat people like children? Apparently the only thing you`re allowed to say in this game, is kind words - but not too much of that either before it turns into spam and that makes you a negative influence! Doesn`t it bother any of you that Riot is the only company to enfore such ridicolous ban rules, yet you can still play on other accounts? So basically you can get a new chance, as long as you fund us by purchasing RP. Start punishing inters, trolls and the really hard flamers. Competetive people saying things that are close to the line shouldn`t equate to punishment. Riot has the worst banishment system in the whole world. Some words of truth up there.
Lantami (EUW)
: Then I'm glad the majority doesn't feel like you.
10 years ago people would laugh at this, instead of commiting suicide heh.
Lantami (EUW)
: Not really, that is just the tip of the iceberg. The f-word for gay people alone is worthy of a perma ban in the eyes of Riot (and in mine and that of most others for that matter).
Well, not for me, because we're not made out of sugar, and punishing people for calling them gay is funny to me.
CosyCara (EUW)
: I'm never flaming and I got permanently banned
> CosyCara: ZIEG HEIL ZIEG HEIL Without that, u would end up with 10 games restriction eventually (if u weren't punished yet).
: > [{quoted}](name=l C18 l,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=exm91E9E,comment-id=000100000000000000000003,timestamp=2017-11-29T00:25:54.445+0000) > > What if his connection is good and srsly it's riot's fault? That's what he is talking about, stop being unfair. I lose connection from time to time and i don't come here cursing anyone because, know what, it happens even when i'm not playing LoL. Try to connect the dots. > The client IS laggy. Not 24/7, but sometimes. Not mine for some reason. > Bulls**t argument. You have never checked the match history of someone who open a "Champ X is OP" thread, haven't you :D ? > Cool, let's defend riot like an (put a single flame) instead of fixing them. People are protesting not because they have to PAY to get reward skins, but because it not as easy as before to get them for FREE. Now imagine asking these very people to PAY to have bugs fixed. The rest is easy.
You can't say that champions are balanced, yea, i've seen many topics like "pff master yi busted" or "darius op nerf plez" but honestly, you must be crazy if u think that ornn or zoe is balanced right now, and there are many people who will agree with me. I guess that it's in Riot's interest to fix bugs, let's don't talk about player's money and free rewards, let's talk about in-game bugs which has a huge impact into the game. Idc about hextech/skin price, it's their business, i can only say that i won't spend money for some overpriced stuff, but cannot force them to lower the price because "i'm too poor to buy it" or something. For example, in some cases, when u have an afker from the beginning (read a topic about Janna with a biscuit or something who went afk and it was impossible to ff 3) that's the game-changing thing. This kind of problems should have high-priority in fixing.
: > [{quoted}](name=Kaloutsidis69,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=exm91E9E,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-28T16:47:02.372+0000) > > I can. > > Here are some statements that are true but you will downvote to prove me wrong First of all, downvote. Then: > -Blue essence: everyone complains about it. Everyone. I am level 34 or 35 and I have like 2000BE because in each level up I got 5x90BE Champion Shards I don't. > -Speaking of, you can't even re-roll them Never rerolled a champion before. I prefer to disenchant them if i need the essence. And who knows, maybe i will play them one day so i will keep them just in case. > -OE is unfair as well because it doesn't give very much anymore and skins require a lot of it So you are complaining because...you get potentially LESS free stuff, nevermind the free stuff you already got. Ok {{champion:33}}. > -Servers are laggy as hell When you play, maybe. Check your equipment and connection. > -The client is laggy Again, maybe yours. > -New runes are not free anymore ? > -Some champions are not balanced No champion is balanced when you lose to it. > One of them is Zoe Hear hear... > -A lot of bugs in-game You would probably not paid a single dime to have them fixed. > -Some runes are OP and some of them are UP (one of the OP runes got nerfed. Don't remember exactly which one.) Infact there are nerfs and buffs incoming. > -Riot is becoming EA. They want more money. I understand that LoL is f2p but there are some limits dude. None is forcing you to take things out of your wallet anyway. It's your choice if you want to. > If those are not enough just answer me. And next time think before oppening your mouth Considering what you already wrote, i would be amused to hear more. Go ahead if you want.
> When you play, maybe. Check your equipment and connection. What if his connection is good and srsly it's riot's fault? That's what he is talking about, stop being unfair. > Again, maybe yours. The client IS laggy. Not 24/7, but sometimes. > No champion is balanced when you lose to it. Bulls**t argument. > You would probably not paid a single dime to have them fixed. Cool, let's defend riot like an (put a single flame) instead of fixing them.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: No you won't. IFS looks into the context of what you're saying, not just the words themselves.
> No you won't. IFS looks into the context of what you're saying, not just the words themselves. XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
: just an idea regarding teemo!
I'd make his Q blind in that way, where u can still attack mushrooms, even when blinded.
: You can't rely on these numbers, the time (games) it takes for people to get back to a neutral or positive standing depends on their behavior, and thus varies a lot. If the numbers were fixed, why would they choose numbers like 28 and 181 ^^
I'm just saying how many games i had to play bro, the score may be similar for him, if he won't flame anymore :^)
RealiX1337 (EUNE)
: First time banned, some questions.
28 games to unlock rewards again 181 games to hit level 1 honor 30 games played atm - still working for lvl 2 honor. Yes, i'm counting.
: you do realize riot can read champion select chat too, right? if he ints and you report him, mentioning in the report that champ select chat needs to be checked too, he will get punished {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}}
> you do realize riot can read champion select chat too, right? XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
: > [{quoted}](name=What2Do With BE,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=2c4NREE7,comment-id=000500020002,timestamp=2017-11-28T06:16:39.272+0000) > > RiotNaKyle states that you don't get banned for asking to report a player > > you probably didnt read this part... and RIOT husker said the complete opposite http://www.esprts.com/getting-banned-for-asking-players-to-report-someone-league-of-legends/riot-husker/ you probably didnt read this part :)
So what should they do now? 1 rioter tolerates it and another does not? Dual standards are not okay. So, if he send a ticket to the support, he will be unbanned ONLY if it will be read by a proper rioter? Cool stuff Riot Games, let's throw a dice and check if u will be unbanned.
smolpöke (EUW)
: I finally learned how to mute people xD
But he still won't be banned anyways =) gg
: if you play her, you will get op after you learned her.. but noone cares about learn or master a champ nowadays.. so yeah, shes kinda done xDD everybody wants fast fun... thats why all want old fiora back, she was fast fun <.<
No, her rework is senseless because braindead champions still exists and no one will play her because of them. As i mentioned in the first post. Why would i play a champion with 15 seconds cooldown on her W, whose full combo deals 800 dmg, when i can play Kha'Zix and deal 1300 with 1 duskblade basic and Q, and E-cd reset.
: Any form of reportcalling is punishable. I think everybody should know that by now. He did exactly that. I don't say that the system works perfectly fine, because it didn't. But as a program always makes a "true/false" decision, it works proper here. Reportcalling? Yes => punishment.
> Any form of reportcalling is punishable. It's not like that he linked a post, where Rioter says it's not bannable or anything.
: the old one was way to strong for newbies.... even if you first time her, you were able to ace enemy team without effort.. the new you need to learn... thats good stuff... shes still to strong at that point if you played her a few times
THAT;S WAY NO ONE PLAYS HER, GG WP (she can't take even 50% of hp when she land E + Q +RQ)
Rioter Comments
: If you are good you will climb regardless of that one loss and it will contribute to bettering the interactions overall in game. If you dodge he'll just go on to %%%% over more people.
> [{quoted}](name=Mecha Syrena,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Y4smt8Ab,comment-id=000100020000,timestamp=2017-11-27T17:47:07.963+0000) > > If you are good you will climb regardless of that one loss and it will contribute to bettering the interactions overall in game. > > If you dodge he&#x27;ll just go on to %%%% over more people. For example, u have 2:2 in series, if you lose this 5th game, it will cost u extra 4 hours of claimbing (only if u win everything once again). Do u think it's worth? Because u can't dodge this game, since it counts as a lost in that case. That what is disgusting in this game.
: >Free Dodging (no punishment) No. >because of autofill Learn to play more roles or fill normal games to get protection in Ranked. >bad people Report them after the game, unless you mean bad players; >You know that feeling of dodging too many times in champion select I literally do not. > I don't have the good supports, like karma. If you learn to play the champion it will be a good support. Optionally, get Karma; >when you have players who threatens to troll or feed, You dodging means less reports for trolls; Which in turn means more people will be affected down the line, you also inflate queue times for everyone(not you as in you but as in all dodgers) >take champions hostage Play a different champ? >crying because they got support. did, didn't you just do that? > "I HAVE DODGED 4 TIMES BECAUSE OF MAD PLAYERS AND HAVE 60 MIN OF PUNISHMENT TIME!!!" Good, you deserve it; >WHY IS AUTOFILL EVEN A THING!? It reduces Queue times for everyone.
> Report them after the game, unless you mean bad players; Losing the game at the same time, good logic. 1 free dodge every 24 hours would be great, since some people declares trolling even in lobby.
: Riot is WORSE than EA
> Their instant feedback system is a joke too. Not made to reform but to make them more money. With that one i agree 100%.
RallerenP (EUW)
: I think that at the very least you should get it lowered to a 25 game chat restriction, but for future reference don't repeat what others say to you. Especially not things like homophobic slurs.
> I think that at the very least you should get it lowered to a 25 game chat restriction, And i think he should be so apologized, and refunded instantly for this sad system.
: I recived a 14 Day ban for an insult out of context
Let's find some people who still thinks that punish system works properly XD
: i think im getting there,congratulations for doing it mate u give us hope :D again thanks for helping
No problem bro, keep it up :)
: thanks for the reply.how about honors did u get many honors and the bonus of when every teammate honors.
Yea, average 2 or 3 honors per game.
: so how much time did it take?1-2 months? did u get any reports by mad trolls?
Idk, since i didnt say a single word within these 200+ games. But as i know mad silver players being outplayed will report whole enemy team instantly, so ye, probably got some false reports like everyone.
Sympton (EUW)
: I know it's stupid.. it would be ok if there would be a troll once every 10 games an/or flamers + feeders but its in the vast majority not a day goes by without having been trolled/afkd upon/insulted. and yes i realise someone flaming doesnt mean you should flame back. but we are humans and we have emotions.. we are all different and not everyone if not MOST people are able to keep their mouth shut. 90% of people in real life would say something back when they are punched in the face or threatend etc. god forbid you stand up for yourself.. riot wants you to swallow it all and simply file a silly report which often results in nothing. and reporting doesnt give me my fun back doesnt give me my time back doesnt give me my points back doesnt give me my rank back doesnt give me satisfaction so god forgive me if i atleast call him a wanker for ruining the game for 9 other players.
What's funnier, people here on forum will tell you to just mute him, but how can you know then, if he kept flaming, so your report would be worth enough to punish him?
Sympton (EUW)
: which is stupid imo. if someone in RL calls me a c unt i will call him a c unt back. this isnt kindergarten. they dont have to act like strict parents. you have the right to defend yourself and should be allowed to. riot wants a idealistic world in a toxic place with faulty systems and many trolls etc. ofcourse i will be mad like many others if someone trolls or says hell kill my family etc.
Exactly, people can split into your face for the whole game, try to draw his attention and u will be treaten by riot in the same way.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Telling a person to commit suicide is one of the worst things you can say to someone. It's considered extremely toxic, and is as such punished severly.
For sure the opponent is already hanging because of his words. That's what i hate in Riot Games, they treat people like baloons, whose mentality is thin enough, to blow it with a single "k y s" or anything similar.
Sympton (EUW)
: honestly dont think this is permaban worthy at all.. i see way worse things unpunished almost daily. riot seriously needs to chill with punishments. not saying the guy isnt in the wrong here, but permaban? jesus christ..
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Well these logs are quite extreme. Extreme enough to warrant an escalation at least.
> Well these logs are quite extreme. Are u joking right?
Blitzz (EUNE)
: I just dont like when people complain about it and wanted to share my opinion. And thanks for the nice words!
Look bro, compare Riot Games to the election campaign, where everyone promises u plums on the willow. At the beginning, u earn some benefits (in that case skin shards which were worth some OE) but then, after the time, they will keep taking it back from u piece by piece. That's why people are complaining, when they lose something both in game and in real life. And people are right in that case, that they shows their dissatisfaction.
: oh... You better be careful then buddy. One more mistake and it's perma.
Yea ik :) I'm keeping up a good work.
: People seem to forget that there is an increased chance of getting shards for champions you don't own. And if you are upgrading a shard instead of buying champion - that shard basically worth twice as much as it disenchanting price. Such a greedy company that RIOT is, giving away stuff for free to get profits. Wow.
Thanks god, now riot forces me to combine 10 champions, which i will never use, instead of collecting 6300 IP for the champion I WANT to play.
: lol wtf. When my honor got locked I got it back to level 1 in like 10 games. Getting back to level 2 seems impossible though.
Forgot to mention i had 2 weeks ban :S
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