: EUW is much more frustrating than EUNE imo. You get 1-2 very good players in one team then a bunch of people who are learning the game. The skill level is in general much higher. Lots of people have alt accounts in EUW from all over the place and play from silver up to gold. I met people that were diamond in other servers, high gold etc, high ranked in old seasons but retired and only played a few games very very often in my games and that from silver 5 to silver 1. Combine that with your team feeding like crazy and this meta and you're going to rage quit league cause you won't be able to carry anything and probably gonna get hardstuck in silver
Ohh that is bad, i guess i will play in NA then. Thanks for the advice.
: but at least you get less bad players as you did in bronze, don't you ? :D
Nope out of 30 games 27 felt like bronze. Feels bad.
: it should be like this all the time , I mean , in every game there are bad players or players who are pretty toxic and we cannot stop them xD
Yeah i know but i got from b4 to plat 5 dreaming of a better team and game play in general but this is just disappointing.
: plat EUW player here , would say at least 1 or 2 out of 10 games you got some flamers or trollers , probably slightly better overall, but I do somehow feel like I am playing in silver or playing against some kids for some games :(
So no difference at, all how can that be? Is the system that bad?
: I went form EUNE on EUW for the same reason. I find the playes on EUW server more chill and not so toxic. Maybe you can give it a try. Also you will gonna have high ping on NA so keep in mind this.
Are the players better in EUW?
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: Greetings. EUNE servers are having problems right now.
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Spearki (EUW)
: bot lane is mostly decided by the skill of the support regardless of the adc in solo q most times it's the support that decides how the lane is going to go in this meta so :)
I know i main sup but believe me that leona did nothing but flame me all game. I just initiated on the fight with a good r on Yi and everything went well leona was always 3rd on the engage
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: Everyone play ranked for any reason. Someone play for division, others for the victorious skin,others to become better players. And the fourth reason is to troll their teammates. I play ranked to become better player, but good division= good players in your game.
I hope if i ever get to diamond i will get to play better games cause so far i am not satisfied.
: You climb until you are the problem. And then you are stuck. It's (basically) the same at every MMR. What you have to understand is that this Silver III in your game didn't score 0/12 because he was bad. He scored 0/12 because he got matched up with a Gold IV. Or against someone who just "got his number". If you replace Silver III with Platinum III and Gold IV with Diamond IV it still works out the same. Things that gradually improve through the tiers are cs and warding. Kills/Deaths tend to be lower the higher up you are, but a lot less than you would think. Just take the #1 challenger player... his last games: 5/7/5 6/7/4 3/4/5 11/2/9 2/7/1 One of his last 20 games was a 0/7/0. Nothing about these scores tells you which tier he is.
Yeah i get it but i have to be really unlucky to get in 6 games in a row players who are having a bad game.
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: Well, since you only complained about positioning, maybe it was 1 game with your adc who got autofilled and went 0-10. Im the same, I can play every role on a very good level but, i think bronze 5 top lane main would rape my ass off.
Hahahah i hope not. I know some are auto filled but i am talking about those who are not. Dont get me wrong i have had 12 games on plat so far, give or take, in 2 of them i had some great adc and you could really tell the difference. BUt the thing is that in the rest no one ever said he was auto filled or even wanted to swap so i had to assume that they main.
: well the plat adc is against better people than the silver ones and adc carry is pretty shit in this high dmg meta (crit adc even worse) but next patch duskblade and dmg runes is gonna get some nerfs and the changes gonna indirect nerfs assains in the same time so i guess adc gonna get an easier time to deal dmg.
I hope that you are right. Because it is getting to support an adc now that everyone can one shot it.
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: Some poeple start rankeds, knowing that they will lose. Why even play Bard top, if you are experimenting, go into normal game, but even there people would flame you
You are probably right about the flaming in normal games but that usually happens if you teammates are low elo or have not played ranked games and take normal games too seriously. If that happens mute them and you are right people should not try new ideas in ranked.
: I think that he will be in the game when the new season starts, so we will be add somewhere between the end of this season and the start of the new one.
so in 3 months give or take?
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: I would never dodge a bard top.
Believed me you should
iSneez (EUNE)
: no
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: Server issues - loss prevent system was triggered.
Cypherous (EUW)
: Its because loss prevention was enabled due to issues with the ranked queue, all LP gained from wins is halved and all LP lost is set to 0 for matches that are running while loss prevention is enabled
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wtf dude sorry i can not let u write these stuff in my discussion.
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: We already kinda have that. Mewokai and kinda definetly not udyr. Both are wearing sleeping onesis.
I did not know that those skins were Pajama themed. But I really wanted to see a Pajama Party Lee sin skin to be honest
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: Wait wait wait, for years we had 6bans,3 bans per team (and only first 3 guys could do that) , now when riot listen us to give 10 bans,5bans per team you ask to give you 2 more? Isn't it a little greedy? And if you know that your team bans yasuo or akali , why you ban then? Reserve ban with yasuo, and in last second or when your team ban 4 other champs change to some other champ and let your enemy ban yasuo. Ez
Hahah true but i can not risk it, because the enemy team always has a god yasuo and mine has a trashuo. But i agree 10 bans are really good but the new akali is too broken, so it is a -1 ban that is my point here.
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NocaNoha (EUNE)
: Maybe not level 3, but instead, it requires a certain amount of games? Like, if you are willing to use "autofill" it should probably mean that you have played with that champion at least 10.. maybe 20 games on Summoners Rift [ARAM/Game modes excluded]?
Yeah i agree with you level 3 might be a bit much
Zulkrix (EUW)
: good luck i was p4 dropped to p5 75 lp and then i took a break now im scared i lost what it takes to continue to climb :(
We all take brakes at some point, I think you are afraid to play cause you assume you will get demoted to gold. But don't worry play a some flex games regain your skill and return on solo/duo.
Yraco (EUW)
: S3 here but I was hardstuck bouncing between S5 and S4 0lp so I think I'm doing something right.
Yeah i know the feeling of being stuck . I was stuck in g5 and after getting to G3 for the 3rd time everything worked out. Best of luck yo your climbing
: Well done
Mimr (EUW)
: Congrats! Still S5 peasant after 7 years over here xD
Thanks. XD i hope you climb to the division you like.
Voidner (EUNE)
: Congrats! But careful, plat is the worst division ever in terms of toxicity
Really? Thanks for the heads up. I ll try to keep it calm.
Mcgalakar (EUNE)
: Congratulations! {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
Thank you very much!
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Andrey0345 (EUNE)
: You don't need a mastery 3 to play something well, that's too much. And while ranked has a champion pool restriction, it would be quite hard to grind 20 champions each to mastery 3 to be able just to get started. You might have a good counterpick or champion that synergizes well with team comp. Not being able to play it just because "you don't have enough mastery" is wrong. If someone is not good at champion and loses because of it, it's his fault, he loses his lp too, yes, he lets down other players but that doesn't mean Riot should disable playing whatever you want.
Maybe level 3 is a bit much , level 2 is better. The thing is that there are 4 more people that lose LP with this 1st timer. So there is a need for such restriction. In my opinion.
xTigax3 (EUW)
: I really don't like the idea for multiple reason even tho it may make sense in general. -Think about people who took a long break and played last time in season 5 before this system came out. They may be very expirienced players and can't play ranked for weeks now until they grind out 20 champs to level 3. -Picking champs for someone else is a very important strategy to play with flex picks and to secure contested picks. I don't like a few strong champs, I know how to play against them but I myself don't want to grind them to 3. -Some champs are easier than others which means you can get the hang out of those after 2-3 games because they are mechanically about as hard as making breakfast, like Annie or Garen. On the other hand a level 3 yasuo zed cassio syndra leblanc rumble draven lee is not really a threat to anyone at the same skill level who knows how to play against them decently. -Someone has played a champ to level 3 years ago and played shit and got carried to get more points doesn't touch the champ for 2 years and then plays it in ranked, not really different from a first timer. I would see more sense in bringing a restriction so people have to have 1 champ at level 3 for each role to play ranked as well as having played each role at least once in normal draft, so you can guarantee they have played a position in case of autofill.
As for the swapping I answered that on another fellow please go to the comment to see my opinion. About the old rusty players the will probably have to play again some games to regain their skills. But we can not control how lightly people take ranked games. If someone cared enough he would understand the importance of practicing before playing ranked games.
: Nah, I like playing random champs whenever I feel like. if it's a normal or ranked I don't care. Also what if they ban your champions? And yes I am the person you'll see in ranked picking akali when she gets reworked. Yes I played Irelia after her rework because she's so fun so I don't really see the problem. Why put a leash on people that want to have fun experimenting. But ofc this is just my opinion {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
Well I believe I speak for most of us when I say that you should try new champs in normal games, customs or even with AI I don't know if you are skilled or something but many of us take ranked games a bit more seriously. So I would appreciate if u did not test new champs on ranked games.
Drøught (EUW)
: I don't think it's a totally bad idea, but what about swap? Why shouldn't I be allowed to pick for someone else just because I don't have the champ HE wants to play at lvl 3?
You have a good point there, but maybe this problem can be resolved with another way. Lets say that you can choose with whom you are going to trade champions in lobby , so when the picking ends the system will automatically trade the champion. The system will not show the champs that the other guy can not pick. And this way everyone is happy.
FleaLess (EUNE)
: so what about the lvl 7 yasuo mains who go 0/40 saying they will carry? cos i have more problems with those kind of ppl rather than ppl trying out new champs
Unfortunately I can not help you with that. But we can avoid first times in ranked games for starters.
Ceberuz (EUW)
: Personally I don't know since mastery won't teach players one of the most basic concepts of the game, the laning. I've lost so many games recently in the first 5min cause mid or toplane ignore cs, try to fight in enemy waves and repeat the process ending up with 0/5+, resulting in at best, a 3v7 game.
Mastery shows that you are not completely unaware of the champ you are using. To be honest i would like to have some sort of verification about my teammates skills, for example that he knows at some level his champs skills and mechanics.
: Nope, bad idea. Getting the 20 champions required to play ranked is already a drag, since you level up faster now, meaning you have less time to get the BE for the champs. Om top of that, since you need those 20 to queue, your suggestion requires you to be lvl 3 on all 20 champions to play. What if you only play 3 of the champions in your lineup, so you only have 3 champs lvl 3 or higher? You don't play the other champs. How stupid is it to have to play a couple of hundred extra games just to get those 17 champions, that you never play to lvl 20?
It is not stupid at all if you want to be a better player, in my opinion, you have to know more than 3 champs. So you can be prepared to face them in game. If you have mastery 3 in 20 champs also helps you on case you are auto filled. Lets face it you can not always play your main champs
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Yeah maybe it is much ,but either way there is a need for such restriction.Players should not try new champs in ranked games.
: So anywhere between 4 - 60 games with the same champion to get to level 3. 6000 mastery points and it goes off how long the game is as well as if it was a win or loss. I'm going to disagree on this front as trying to get 20 champions to level 3 is definitely not a small feat either which people often forget. Not to mention, it's useless if someone is coming back and has plenty of champions at level 3 and jumps into ranked but is super rusty due to not playing for so long (*cough* Yasuo mains *cough*) but the point stands.
I don't think that it is a bad idea in this way you force players to learn more champs and gain more experience. I believe that if a person has not played a good amount of games on a variety of champs, this person should avoid playing ranked games. Because he/she will probably end up losing, having no idea about the skills of the enemy teams champs or even his own champ. If someone is rusty, that is another discussion to be honest with you. Right now we need a way to avoid first timers in ranked games
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