SloopyHD (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=vrasidaros,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=GAcP1H5X,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-07-30T21:06:06.414+0000) > > Even though I will win some games (4 wins 6 losses),my mmr is either dead or I am in a really bad luck.In almost every game,there is at least one person who can’t play safe and goes all in without looking at map and feeds.I was silver 3 about 2-3 months ago after trying so hard.Today I got demoted in bronze 2.In bronze 2.I was b1 50 lp yesterday and after losing 4 games and winning one (continuously),I got eventually demoted.This sucks.It is impossible to climb with such mmr.People who say “you diserve that so you have it” are mostly wrong.I tried to improve those 3 months in normals and only played ranked when my friends annoyed me enough to play.And I have improved.But even if someone has improved,their mmr matches them with players who are bad.Last game,was lost.Our top was pretty good and fed,our jungle tried,our mid couldn’t resist going 1v5 and my adc would not look at map ever and would not go back if I spammed pings at him,but he wasn’t that bad in terms of gameplay,he didn’t feed and helped as much as he could in teamfights.However,everyone ignored me in chat,our top kept chasing kills instead of helping me push and everyone was at a different place,when our enemies were together and pushed us.We lost baron because nobody listened to my pings,our enemies were all full hp at mid and it was a matter of time.They killed us ALL.I am tired of this I am so depressed,I try so hard (I try to play mostly supp now because it is my best role I think and I want others to play on the main roles instead of Getting (mostly) autofilled.But I cannot do much if the enemies are too fed and if my team chases kills and S instead of trying to take more objectives.I get a good team in 3-4 out of ten games.I cried myself here and now I feel more relaxed . > > I just wanna repeat that having shit mmr does not mean a player deserves to be matched with poor players when they try to help their team as much as possible and I am sure a lot of others have the same problem. > P.S : I am not talking about people who chase the easy kill and not the one who should be focused or at least a turret and Back off in teamfights so they don’t ruin their kda and then cry because their team is bad.The one who destroys the enemy nexus first wins,not the one with the most kills. Honey this is normal as LOL matchmaking really sucks… i got demoted from S4 to I4 (having positive KDA most of the time) due to AFK`s, Trolls, and i have only 1of10 Games with a ADC on my side not being re.tar.ded. When i Play on my Twink with Friends who are Plat II to Gold I-III i`m really doing well and have lot`s of fun … but you can`t climb as Main support (Braum/Rakan/,,) out of Iron or even bronze. either you get a Pre M8 or leave it. i figured out best you can do is don`t play before 20:00CET as there are less trolls in the evening, but Dota2 is welcome
> [{quoted}](name=SloopyHD,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=GAcP1H5X,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-30T21:32:55.817+0000) > > Honey this is normal as LOL matchmaking really sucks… i got demoted from S4 to I4 (having positive KDA most of the time) due to AFK`s, Trolls, and i have only 1of10 Games with a ADC on my side not being re.tar.ded. When i Play on my Twink with Friends who are Plat II to Gold I-III i`m really doing well and have lot`s of fun … but you can`t climb as Main support (Braum/Rakan/,,) out of Iron or even bronze. either you get a Pre M8 or leave it. i figured out best you can do is don`t play before 20:00CET as there are less trolls in the evening, but Dota2 is welcome Well that is sad but I get it,I have the retarted adc 70% of the time.The enemies seem to have the bot who can communicate and win when I have the adc who will over extend and FLASH in the middle of the lane just to take a kill,with my expired ward on the jungle-bot bush and will most likely die :). I am afraid to play ranked in another role because I think I will fail :) I am literally too anxious about losing because of people not playing in a group or playing safe to play another role again
: I feel you, when I started playing rankeds fun was gone, it was the time of meta slavery, tilt and tryhard. In all honesty, even if you are a good support you wont climb at that elo. Support seems to be relevant when you are plat/gold, below that you just have to play hard carries, get fed, finish fast. Even if you think that support is your best role I think you may be even betterat another role, just try it out. But there will always be trolls or teammates that just chases for a full minute when a drake, baron, or inhibitors could have been taken. That's why you should play champs that can take objectives or push by themselves, playing support, even if you are a big burst dealer, wont make you take objectives as efficiently as a bruiser for example. The demotion really hurts, hang on and you'll be back in silver.
> [{quoted}](name=AupiedSteven,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=GAcP1H5X,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-30T21:21:30.487+0000) > > I feel you, when I started playing rankeds fun was gone, it was the time of meta slavery, tilt and tryhard. > > In all honesty, even if you are a good support you wont climb at that elo. Support seems to be relevant when you are plat/gold, below that you just have to play hard carries, get fed, finish fast. > > Even if you think that support is your best role I think you may be even betterat another role, just try it out. > > But there will always be trolls or teammates that just chases for a full minute when a drake, baron, or inhibitors could have been taken. That's why you should play champs that can take objectives or push by themselves, playing support, even if you are a big burst dealer, wont make you take objectives as efficiently as a bruiser for example. > > The demotion really hurts, hang on and you'll be back in silver. Well playing supp is better for me but I rarely get a good adc ,I mean I just played a game with a sivir adc who was SO BAD at the game in general,good not play safe at all and she didn’t even farm.She never listened,if she was feeling like going in enemy jg for no reason with no vision (it rimes I will write that down for the average adc players I get to supp) and then say “PROTECT ME WHAT A SUPP OMG”.I am tired of supporting idiots.I am sick and tired of this.Why does the enemy team RARELY HAVE a retorted adc??I mean they sometimes do but most of the time I am the one who has to deal with the bad ones.
: I did not read all the post, but mmr gets higher as you win more consecutive games, master a numbe of Champions, and your win rate will get higher.
> [{quoted}](name=YY 1314520,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=GAcP1H5X,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-30T21:17:09.090+0000) > > I did not read all the post, but mmr gets higher as you win more consecutive games, master a numbe of Champions, and your win rate will get higher. I find it obvious you didn’t read my whole post because it is a sheet of me crying xd Do you know how many games I have to win for my mmr to get better?I know the enemies have probably similar mmr to ours,but it seems like I am most likely placed on the team who can not communicate and group...I have almost played 500 ranked games and I am b2 right now...it gets tiring xd
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: Im a gold player, so im not sure if thats considered high elo, i dont usually have this type of situation, however it has happened to me in the past. Hopefully its just a streak of bad luck that will eventually end. Is climbing the only way out? Honestly i dont think so, it seems as if every elo has its own problems, low elo tends to be trolls, and high elo is usually people with huge egos that tilt. The best way to play is just to mute everyone, have relaxing music in the background, and focus on self improvement :D
Well since my mmr went bad in normals by me trying jungle (I have kindred lvl 6 now but haven’t fixed my mmr xd) I get matched with lvl 30 summoners who act like childs and won’t accept being possitioned as support so..It is annoying 😭haha
: I was thinking of finding a new main in a new role at some point. I thought Neeko, but then I realized it would be impossible to play mid without everyone asking for it. And to be honest, the most interesting champions play mid: Yasuo, Zed, Katarina, Akali, Fizz, Talon, Ahri, Diana, Azir, Zoe, even the new one Qiyana. Every popular champion plays mid. So now I am thinking of switching to Xayah instead, to avoid conflicts.
I main Neeko...However,I seriously do not remember this from when I spammed her for 2 months to get good with her..BUT since I started playing jungle,because I wasn’t playing well,we had another team member who sucked and lost : me.So my mmr in normals really died,now I am being matched with 30 lvl accounts and this is a very possible reason why they dodge.Most of them have a child’s mentality even in game but I try not to talk to them unless they flame too much,then I respond kindly “the reason you flame is wrong because you did this and this wrong,so it is not our laner’s /jungler’s fault”.
Torkl (EUW)
: Tired of what? Your post doesnt rly make sense to me.. If you are complaining about auto-fill theres an easy solution, just dont que mid or jgl, i dont even remember last time i got autofilled or even got my 2nd roll, i think i have atleast 50 games in a row where i get the role i want if i que bot/top or support.. If you are tired of ppl banning your akali or whatever, then its most likely because they are tired of ppl picking champions that simply dont work in the current meta, maybe check out stuff before just jumping in to play, akali has 43% winrate for a reason.
I think my post was easily understandable.So you are saying that people should forget about an entire role in a game ?Just because you main other positions it doesn’t mean everyone should stop playing theirs if they had the same problem.I don’t get your tone either,so yeah,it looks like this post does not make sense to you,like your tone doesn’t make sense to me after posting this kindly :p.I pick too and mid because I want to get good with this champion after practicing jungle.And yes,I played 20 games without autofill when I went jungle.Am I not allowed to play a lane?Is it my fault that I simply want to pick this lane when I am kind and never flame ?I play autofill when I get autofilled.This post is not about me getting autofilled,but people who get autofill and dodge champ selection.
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Pxerkza (EUNE)
: look at the map more and go opposite to where he is going ie if he goes top you go bot if he goes bot you go top if he goes in your jungle you concede and leave buy pinks and red trinket to check bushes so you don't farm on wards other than that it's up to you to decide if you want to contest and fight if you are weaker you should leave or call for help if your team doesn't respond you should definitely leave bans are for champions you dislike playing against or are widely regarded OP My perma ban is reksai for everyone it's different
Ty {{sticker:sg-soraka}}
: Maybe we can try bot lane few games (normals), if our styles suit we can play ranked. But, if you're good at jungle play it and don't switch to ADC; imo JG is better for solo carrying games and ADC isn't a good carry role now. Thing is players may never help you, as they go and stand under turrets for invade or during roams. Many times it is better to give up farm and be safe; ask players to ward so that you can see and track yourself. Maybe try playing a different champion and be more gank oriented.
I don’t wanna play in the same team with anyone else I don’t know in person,I don’t wanna be nervous in the game about this too and then get blamed cause I feel useless already,but ty you are very kind and I appreciate your help :){{sticker:sg-zephyr}}
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: das good 7/27 bot lane i don't know what kind of advise you want for this particular game but i can add you and tell you if there are things you could have done regardless would have you won this game if you did those things unlikely but it doesn't mean you can't improve when someone ints you
One more answer pls pls pls :c last game was a ranked and I had kindred jg (my main lately,went lvl 6 yesterday) and the enemy talon mid was constantly roaming and looking for me in jg to one shot me,then sylas called me an idiot for looking in map and not in chat for pings and did not follow talon...talon was always waiting in a bush and I asked help so I can ward it but no one came...I went 1/8 this game and felt so useless even tho I tried farming to get items I remained useless..What can I do in situations like that? He one shotted me multiple times and then went bot and did the same..He carried a whole game we could have won if it wasn’t talon and was a worse player...He had almost all of his team’s kills (at least MANY MANY of them)..what can I do when this happens??This scared me so much,is it worth it to ban talon instead of Jax or Nunu?
: I am not a good player myself, but I can write something from personal experience: * Dodge 1 game daily- dodge if any laner is having <40% winrate, adc having like <4 cs/min, someone with a big losing streak, bad team compositon, * I can't talk much about other lanes, since i am supp main, I will write about bot lane only. Generally it is good to avoid adc playing hard to play champions like ezreal; he is good for poke and needs to be consistently landing those aa+Q+aa or aa+W+Q+aa kind of combos, move in or escape out with E. ADC players in silver/bronze are just not skilled enough to play ezreal and no offence. Ask adc to play easy to play champions like Jinx, Ashe, Miss fortune. * Always ask support to pick someone like Lux, Morgana, Blitz, Pyke. Sona is really great, but has weak early game; if adc is not good, she can get caught easily while trying to aa+Q+aa for spell thief. Mage supports in general work well- brand, zyra, velkoz can do lot of damage. Playing someone with cc on Q (lux/morgana/blitz/pyke) is great for ganking as landing one ability will be a kill or atleast few summoners burnt. * For jungle, play someone like Jax, Yi, Amumu, Rammus, Nunu,Voli,Udyr-everyone except Yi has cc and of-course the list can actually grow: Vi, WW, Jarvan, Seju. Having some cc is good to lock them down and kill. * If someone is feeding, just ff at 15 mins; in your game adc was clearly trolling-going like 0/3 in first 5 mins and 0/3 in next 5 mins, if you had asked them to play safe in first 5 mins. In Silver/Bronze this happens a lot and you simply can't stop them from troll feeding. Of-course you can play a lengthy game and try to comeback and get the win, but imo it is just exhausting to play such games. In general it is hard to gank lost lanes and instead of risking chances of giving a triple kill, try to put other lanes ahead. I maybe wrong to write like this, but it seems more logical.Yes, Losing bot lane means, losing chances for drakes and may end up in losing bot side jungle too.
Edit : last game was terrible,I went 1/7,in start bot did not came red and they invaded,I had to start wolves,mid never warded and he pinged only once and called me an idiot for looking map for pings and not chat (?????) and never tracked talon who was waiting in my jg every time to one shot me because I am kindred and then he was going on bot and one shotted not every time and sylas did nothing nd always came too late.Ranked games make me depressed.My score made me depressed.I feel hopeless
: I am not a good player myself, but I can write something from personal experience: * Dodge 1 game daily- dodge if any laner is having <40% winrate, adc having like <4 cs/min, someone with a big losing streak, bad team compositon, * I can't talk much about other lanes, since i am supp main, I will write about bot lane only. Generally it is good to avoid adc playing hard to play champions like ezreal; he is good for poke and needs to be consistently landing those aa+Q+aa or aa+W+Q+aa kind of combos, move in or escape out with E. ADC players in silver/bronze are just not skilled enough to play ezreal and no offence. Ask adc to play easy to play champions like Jinx, Ashe, Miss fortune. * Always ask support to pick someone like Lux, Morgana, Blitz, Pyke. Sona is really great, but has weak early game; if adc is not good, she can get caught easily while trying to aa+Q+aa for spell thief. Mage supports in general work well- brand, zyra, velkoz can do lot of damage. Playing someone with cc on Q (lux/morgana/blitz/pyke) is great for ganking as landing one ability will be a kill or atleast few summoners burnt. * For jungle, play someone like Jax, Yi, Amumu, Rammus, Nunu,Voli,Udyr-everyone except Yi has cc and of-course the list can actually grow: Vi, WW, Jarvan, Seju. Having some cc is good to lock them down and kill. * If someone is feeding, just ff at 15 mins; in your game adc was clearly trolling-going like 0/3 in first 5 mins and 0/3 in next 5 mins, if you had asked them to play safe in first 5 mins. In Silver/Bronze this happens a lot and you simply can't stop them from troll feeding. Of-course you can play a lengthy game and try to comeback and get the win, but imo it is just exhausting to play such games. In general it is hard to gank lost lanes and instead of risking chances of giving a triple kill, try to put other lanes ahead. I maybe wrong to write like this, but it seems more logical.Yes, Losing bot lane means, losing chances for drakes and may end up in losing bot side jungle too.
No I agree that people have to push winning lanes than trying to save losing lanes because eventually the enemy team will come to the lane we push anyways.Honestly,my mmr is dead and most of the people I am matched with do feed because they don’t know how to play the game,how to dodge abilities,when to attack,when to stay under turret...Poor Sona ...She was lvl 7 She was maining this supp and this guy ruined her game and everyone was blaming both of them even though she did what she could.So with this mmr I don’t really know what to do,I mean I could go adc (I am a kalista main) but most supps right now don’t know how to work with kalista and also,I think I get strong easier with jungle and have bigger impact in the game.For adc,nothing is sure.And I might fall back because of those things...I’ve died multiple times because my supp didn’t know how to use my ult so I could get a double kill and I died instead.Even though I actually explained to them.
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