Rasiisar (EUW)
: damm cryboy it's only game{{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
My point. Your head . The ranked function is supposed to be competitive.
HonorFive (EUW)
: TheExiledCat: ff 15 Giving Up
So what you're saying is that the surrender function shouldn't be used? Cause that's not giving up, that's him suggesting surrendering. Giving up would be him not trying. Not trying and asking your team to surrender is not the same thing. If that is the case then anyone surrendering could be banned,
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FleaLess (EUNE)
: >I could go more in depth into worse previous experiences such as not being able to escape bronze with an almost 60% winrate, but I'll leave it like this for now. if you cant climb out of bronze with 60% winrate then you are doing something really wrong
Ah yes, forget everything I said and call me bad? How does that make sense. The problem was that even with a 60% winrate I gained about 1 lp per day, since I would loose ~20 lp for a loss and for a win get only 15 - 17 lp
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: oh u didn't see ? https://imgur.com/fBlBdq0
: Oh that's just a naughty boy/grill . :P I hope they improve their behavior on the future ^.^
I have literally no clue what you are saying, is this some kind of weird fetish?
Rismosch (EUW)
: Isn't it cool how I can predict your elo without even checking it? What do most of those champions have in common? They have a straight forward playstyle that dominate if you are not good enaugh to counter them. But that exactly is their weakness too. Because they are so simple, it's fairly easy to play around their strengths and abuse where they are lacking. Annie got a short range and if she misses her Ult, she is literally useless. Kayle isn't that good early to midgame. Hinder her scaling and CC her during her Ultimat, because outside of Ultimate she is fairly squishy. Master Yi is the definition of being squishy. CC him and he's dead. Teemo has no escapes and is also squishy. CC him. You start to see a pattern here, no? To counter Garen, stay out of his range. He is lacking mobility and is easy to kite. Mundo too should be fairly easy to kite. Just build Grivious Wounds and you reduce his healing. Jax, Xin Zhao, Fizz and Yasuo are a bit more difficult though, as they are not as one dimensional. To counter them, you need to understand their kit, so you know what they are capable off. I suggest you play each one for a couple of games, so you will understand them better. The only champions who really need a rework, of those who you've mentioned, are Kayle and Mundo, as they are super outdated. Their lack of movement and because they are not able to stick to their enemies that well, they are objectively worse than mose other champions. The other champions you mentioned are NOT outdated, as they have clear strengths. Annie has high burst. Master Yi can wipe a team, Temmo has a strong laning phase and is good at splitpushing. Garen deletes squishies. But Kayle and Mundo do not have such clear strengths. Besides soaking up damage, Mundo is basically useless. And his damage isn't the best either, unless he is very far ahead, but that happens rarely. And Kayle's lategame isn't that good either, because most ADC can rival her damage. So the tl;dr of all of this is, learn to play against the champions you hate and the only champions in your list who truely deserve a rework are Kaye and Mundo.
Funny how you have to mention elo, even though it has nothing to do with certain champions being annoying. All I did was %%%%% about annoying champions, I didn't really say they are "overpowered" or anything, I just said they create an unfun environment to play in, being extremely simple yet effective.
: but it takes some skill to doge stuff with master yi Q . For example Master yi vs teemo . who will win :P (if master yi doge the teemo Q master yi wins) if teemo hits his Q teemo wins . and his Q can even doge stuns if timed right . (i would say medium skill , not high )
I literally acknowledged this, Master Yi has a high skill cap yes, but doesn't require any skill to play.
: One tip buddy . if u get banned for trolling , pls don't cry on the boards ^.^
What does this have to do with anything?
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: Should change the title to the following. I can't spell the following items.
Yes, That was my point. I'm sorry for writing a post in a foreign language to me. How dare I speak another language. I guess I'll in future just write in my own mother tongue.
: Money doesn't mean anything. You deserved this.
My point. Your head. Maybe read my post again but carefully. And you'll see that was a quick remark to Riot maybe considering an actual change.
: If you got a 14 day ban, it either means you went through two chat restrictions and didn't change your behaviour, or what you said is heinous enough to warrant an automatic 14 day ban right off the bat. According to you, it's an automatic 14 day ban. And quite frankly, you deserve it. Chat restrictions still exist, you just skipped them entirely. Riot doesn't care if you pay or not, if you act like a douche in game, they will ban you all the same.
Read my entire post at least before commenting.
: 1. This is a punishment, not a buffet. You don't get to pick what you like. Punishments are supposed to be really unpleasant. So if you think a 2 week ban is hitting you hard...that's exactly what it should feel like. 2. The money you invested means nothing. The people you insulted most likely were paying customers too. Having money doesn't buy you the right to break the rules and mistreat others unpunished. 3. Given the absurdely extreme toxicity in your chatlogs you can really consider yourself lucky that this is just a temporary ban.
1. I was suggesting changes. Not saying I should pick my punishments. 2. I literally never said having money buys me the right to break rules. I'm actually pretty sure I said the opposite my point was that making changes will make me, a paying customer happy and possibly others too and since they are a for-profit company, I believe it makes Riot consider actually changing things if it can mean more profit. 3. Literally offers noting to the conversation. My chatlogs where an example.
Wen294 (EUW)
: "hey i paid my taxes so i can break the law all i want" You think that's gonna fly in court?
: elo hell doesn't exist
That really doesn't add to the conversation,
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KerberosFi (EUNE)
: Flaming punishments are working pretty ok already.Inting punishments not that well,but I really doubt if players as reviewers would solve thing. I mean,you could imagine there are heck amount of false reports,going through these cases and finding even one potential inter game is pain. Even more so if I had to watch whole replays from matches(I wouldn't actually even bother). They did have tribunal system,it was basically same as cs go has today. It fall into fact that there are shittons of cases but not that many players to review cases and as such the punishments were given too slowly. But the foremost is the question would player reviewing system pick actual inters better than ai one?I actually doubt. When player can pick chat logs,scores,itembuilds and so-on from tribunal ai could technically pick each idvidual movement,each command,every cursor movement actually all the data you could imagine you can imagine getting from one playing video game.Now you ask how the heck the system cannot the detect actual intentional feeder?Because determining was the player intentionally feeding or just playing bad is hard,system cannot read thoughts. Obviously if the player is spamming stuff on chat while feeding then it is pretty clear case,system detects this. If the player is running down mid,system again detects this.But,what if the feeder has relatively same score as the others throughout the game but the deaths were caused by him being hyperagressive in lane(goes 0/3 to 20 min)? Let's assume he was hyperagressive lane in lane intentionally.His build is totally normal,he was fighting seemingly hard but his real motive was to screw some idividual players game by taking fights that he knew he would lose by small margin without saying word in chat. Did he int?This time yes,his intention was to take stupid fights which he would lose,but neither can the system or players know it if they didn't got any clue from chat,from build etc. Same scenario(0/3 in lane)while player is trying his best but is losing from uncomplete knowledge or so. Fights look excactly same as in previous example.Build,chat and so on are absolutely fine.How will system know if the player was trying or was he inting? As third example player goes now 0/7 in lane due to early pressure from enemy jungler against an extremely snowbally champion,let's say Katarina. His first 3 deaths are from enemy jungler diving him and the rest deaths are caused from katarina diving him(after getting yet some roams from bot).His build is best he can do,his chat is positive this time and he is trying to win the game,though it finally ending up into inevidable loss.He didn't intentionally feed,because his will was to try his hardest,nut again the system or the human can't see this other than by checking his chatlogs. However,coulkdn't intentional feeder write just as nice things into chat to make him seem unquilty? What if we assume this happened in bronze elo?What if it was platinum elo?What if the player is flaming his jungler,but feeded still completely unintentionally? Let's now assume that katarina was master tier smurf in gold game. However,player against this katarina started feeding of his own will after katarina getting 2 intial kills from ganks(result into 20 min is still 0/7).He didn't flame,he is still building correctly,only thing he is doing is that he is intentionally not respecting kata's zone.Game looks excactly the same as the last one with the exception that the player isn't writing anything to chat. Can system or the players know his true intentions?I doubt.In both cases they know that katarina snowballed out of control and dunked enemy laner but in both cases they cannot read kata's lane opponent's thoughts.
I said nothing about punishing inters with a system like that though. So congrats you defeated a strawman.
: god awful system pls no
Elaborate please, as I said i my other comment, you don't really add to the conversation by saying something is bad.
: Uh no. The current report system works fine. You are going back to the tribunal idea, only with US involved. That'll never work. And most of the time you won't get a message from the feedback system, because they simply don't want to spam you with it. I actually want to get message of each player being punished by my report, but Riot chose not to. So we just have to deal with that.
Can You elaborate on why it wont work. Seems kind of foolish to forget and argument by saying "it won't work" and just moving on.
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: >And I'm not saying I didn't deserve to be punished, I was saying 1 report should not lead to me not being able to play the game I love for 2 weeks. Because of the severity of what you said, you skipped the two chat restrictions and jumped directly to a 14 day ban. >What I would suggest is something CS:GO like where there are competetive bans (ranked) (example: 2 Week ban on ranked). Or a chat ban or chat restriction (Example: 2 weeks no messages in chat or Example: 2 weeks limited messaging in chat). Riot used to ban people from ranked and all they did was bring their toxicity into normal games. > Why I think the changes I am suggesting is should be made is because currently I believe a 2 week ban first time with no warning or information on the ban previously (example: punishments to be shown on the client.) The terms of use agreement constitute a warning. It says that Riot reserve the right to ban you for any reason for any time, with no liability or warning to you. There's support articles on the system that state that you can skip punishments. > is just naive, of course a company cares about making profits, it would be dumb for Tencent holdings not to want to make profit. And they also have a duty of care to the people that don't act like assholes in game. There was a post stating that Riot loses more money through players quitting due to toxicity than they do through them banning toxic players. >A permanent ban would be just idiotic for riot to implement for first time instances of harrasment, cheating yes of course. But harrasment no the mute function still exists for players who want to play ranked and have a jolly old time not worrying about teammates/enemies being ddossed. It already exists. Riot only use automatic permanent bans for cheaters and people who show extreme racism, homophobia etc. >And this really ignorance of the comment really pisses me off because it makes it quite clear to me that all you did was read some of the chat logs Because your chat logs show the entire story. There really is no excuse for it. >So I believe the best way to get something like this done (Changes to ban system) is to make publicity of it and force riot to read it. (Ironically like a small riot). Why would the system need to be changed when you're living proof that it is working? >please share this and keep commenting so Riot can actually respond. The only way to get your ban looked at is to open a support ticket. Riot does not deal with account related issues on the boards. Either way Riot support would probably be reluctant to remove or even look into it because of what you said.
You say "Why would the system need to be changed when you're living proof that it is working?", but this isn't a working system, when there is almost no information on the subject of ban times. And that skipping warnings is possible. And to respond to the ticket part (which I've answered multiple times). The reason why I don't want to make a ticket is, that the tickets do not work as intended and as I already said I've had two accounts hacked and sent numerous tickets on both of them, and I got neither back. And it takes more than a week to get more than an automated email. As a final response to "Because your chat logs show the entire story. There really is no excuse for it." Has nothing to do with what I said, I was responding to a comment of a person who didn't even read my comment or chat logs before commenting on it already. ( "And they also have a duty of care to the people that don't act like assholes in game. There was a post stating that Riot loses more money through players quitting due to toxicity than they do through them banning toxic players." an article :^ ) sure, please just don't link it. I didn't want to read that article either.)
: 2 Week ban for 1 game of raging
Now, as a response to people. The money comment was to prove that I am customer who is worth investing upon by riot. That if changes are made to the system I will stay a happy customer. (so that throws out 90% of commenters). And I'm not saying I didn't deserve to be punished, I was saying 1 report should not lead to me not being able to play the game I love for 2 weeks. I'm suggesting change and using my experience as an example that bans that stop me from playing the game are not good. What I would suggest is something CS:GO like where there are competetive bans (ranked) (example: 2 Week ban on ranked). Or a chat ban or chat restriction (Example: 2 weeks no messages in chat or Example: 2 weeks limited messaging in chat). And jsut because this Wen294 guy pissed me off with his ridiculous comment comparing a chinese company and court, Which I said in the original post I was doing to exhibit that I am a paying customer and worth investing upon, I made no claim that because I pay these changes should be made. Why I think the changes I am suggesting is should be made is because currently I believe a 2 week ban first time with no warning or information on the ban previously (example: punishments to be shown on the client.) for insulting other players is just not going to work. And as a response to FurorDivinus27 "Riot doesn't care if you pay or not, if you act like a douche in game, they will ban you all the same." is just naive, of course a company cares about making profits, it would be dumb for Tencent holdings not to want to make profit. And as my response to Declined: A permanent ban would be just idiotic for riot to implement for first time instances of harrasment, cheating yes of course. But harrasment no the mute function still exists for players who want to play ranked and have a jolly old time not worrying about teammates/enemies being ddossed. And as a final response to Torpedosheep: "How are you still here and genuinely believe that this was not deserved?" As I said numerous times I did deserve to be punished, I didn't say that it was ok. And this really ignorance of the comment really pisses me off because it makes it quite clear to me that all you did was read some of the chat logs and none of my post which was the main argument meanwhile you read the things that where supposed to support my arguments of the original post. PS: Declined... Tickets submitted to riot are a joke, they have never worked. I've had 2 accounts hacked previously and in both cases I submitted more than 1 ticket. So I believe the best way to get something like this done (Changes to ban system) is to make publicity of it and force riot to read it. (Ironically like a small riot). Hope you all have a wonderful day, please share this and keep commenting so Riot can actually respond.
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12a12b12d (EUNE)
: Definitely not Darius!
I LOVE THAT SKIN SO MUCH!
: This map can not go by unnoticed
So awesome I hope it comes as a gamemode
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: This map can not go by unnoticed
One of the best map suggestions I have ever seen! Keep it up!
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