: > [{quoted}](name=A Sinister Goat,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=VzaerMMK,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2015-08-18T17:12:50.894+0000) > > Also, If you're able to give me confirmation, do you think Randuins is good on Yasuo vs a fed Kalista? (Fed due to my mistake in bot) Or was that a bad recommendation? Sorry for taking up your time well if it's yas mid and top and jnuglers aren't havy dmg bealers you should build more dmg and let the team get you to the adc to kill him (by cc mov buff...) if you have something like jax who build some dmg and then tank you can get a randins last item no problem (btw i'm not that good with grammer so sry or whriting in a hole)
> [{quoted}](name=CragonHunter,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=VzaerMMK,comment-id=000000000004,timestamp=2015-08-20T10:31:00.024+0000) > > well if it's yas mid and top and jnuglers aren't havy dmg bealers you should build more dmg and let the team get you to the adc to kill him (by cc mov buff...) if you have something like jax who build some dmg and then tank you can get a randins last item no problem > (btw i'm not that good with grammer so sry or whriting in a hole) Hehe, i'm the same you don't have to apologise! thanks for your opinion.
: While I agree that your behaviour in this game wasn't perfect and pretty annoying as well, I think 14 days is a way too harsh punishment. A few restrictions I'd say. From patch 5.15: > As mentioned at launch, the Instant Feedback System was originally tuned conservatively to avoid false positives. Now that it's been in place for a few months we're ready to start taking the training wheels off. In particular, the system is now more likely to punish hate speech after just one incidence.
> [{quoted}](name=VF MABWSA,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=VzaerMMK,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2015-08-19T06:47:44.788+0000) > > While I agree that your behaviour in this game wasn't perfect and pretty annoying as well, I think 14 days is a way too harsh punishment. A few restrictions I'd say. > From patch 5.15: I have gotten a response from Riot but the response is identical to a previous case of this. This previous case was when a week later i received an email telling me that the ban was a mistake. I can only hope this seemingly automated response is also incorrect too.
Father Tios (EUNE)
: They hate you ;O
> [{quoted}](name=Father Tios,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=VzaerMMK,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2015-08-18T22:49:55.393+0000) > > They hate you ;O On an alternate account i once recieved a random 2 week ban, with chat logs. i read through the chat logs and the only thing that seemed report worthy was me saying "Nidalee, please stop stealing my ****ing jungle." This alternate account was new too so i can guarantee that there was no previous verbal abuse. After a week into the ban i got an email from Riot apologizing for "yesterdays punishment" - even though it was a week too late to be seen as "yesterday." The shock? i didnt even have a chat ban! And in all honesty i deserved it for my language towards the nidalee. In the end I guess i'll just have to hope that this is a mistake..If not, then my only week long holiday of the year isn't going to spent on league. And i really don't want to get one of these "life" things that i hear about, sounds terrifying.
Shiroe x (EUW)
: Wow 14 day ban for this. forgive me o-holy one, as i am about to sin. but what the hell riot... Maybe a rank/chat ban but a 14 day ban just.. eh.. but... hmm... I would send a ticket to riot, this has to be a mistake. Report calling is the worse you did here, that is all. Just going to add, that we don't know how you reacted in past games aswell.
> [{quoted}](name=Shiroe x,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=VzaerMMK,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2015-08-18T22:39:35.477+0000) > > Wow 14 day ban for this. forgive me o-holy one, as i am about to sin. but what the hell riot... > Maybe a rank/chat ban but a 14 day ban just.. eh.. but... hmm... > > I would send a ticket to riot, this has to be a mistake. > > Report calling is the worse you did here, that is all. > > Just going to add, that we don't know how you reacted in past games aswell. I agree completely and that is fair enough! I have been waiting for a reply from Riot if I had made any mistakes recently, but memory wise I do not think so. Since i was unaware of report calling being report worthy, and because i retaliated to shens abuse rather than muting him, I believe that i deserve a chat restriction. heck, maybe a ranked ban. However i do not believe 14 days is justified..
Father Tios (EUNE)
: You weren't really offensive about it though. It's like getting punished for trying to continue behaving as normally as possible in a situation where you're being abused.
> [{quoted}](name=Father Tios,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=VzaerMMK,comment-id=000800000000,timestamp=2015-08-18T22:37:27.015+0000) > > You weren't really offensive about it though. > > It's like getting punished for trying to continue behaving as normally as possible in a situation where you're being abused. Your responses are greatly accepted and have really cheered me up! Than you alot <3 I am glad that someone understands that I was trying my hardest to.. How should i put this.. retaliate calmly? I also read through the chat logs and i am currently wishing that ALL the chat was read, not just mine. At the start of the game when i said "i blame shen for not ulting"- that was obviously not serious, as Shen doesnt exactly have his ulti at level 1. The "l2p" with the smile was in retaliation to my premade ally, my boyfriend dinnerbowl who can confirm this, as a joke when he claimed to be bad, when in truth he really isn't! Thanks for understanding, just like so many others on this forum! <3
Vionicesca (EUNE)
: I saw the chatlogs and while you were kind of negative here and there, **this is not nearly enough even for a CR, let a lone a 14 days ban**. Either you behave like this often (it adds up until they finally hit with the banhammer) or the system overreacted. Either way, might be worth to send a ticket to support and ask them about it.
> [{quoted}](name=Vionicesca,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=VzaerMMK,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2015-08-18T21:11:52.731+0000) > > I saw the chatlogs and while you were kind of negative here and there, **this is not nearly enough even for a CR, let a lone a 14 days ban**. Either you behave like this often (it adds up until they finally hit with the banhammer) or the system overreacted. > > Either way, might be worth to send a ticket to support and ask them about it. In all honesty- I believe that because i retaliated to Shen instead of muting him, I believe a chat restriction would be fair. I'd happily accept it- heck even a ranked ban if it was in the favor of Riot. But personally i do not think that I deserved a two week ban. Thanks for your response, and taking your time too. It's greatly appreciated <3
: > [{quoted}](name=A Sinister Goat,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=VzaerMMK,comment-id=0007000000000000,timestamp=2015-08-18T20:59:30.890+0000) > > If you read my message i have already described about my current issues, so it should be quite clear that i would make a mistake somewhere. I alread have posted my full chat log- in text and screenshots. If this is not enough for you then all i could really do otherwise is forward the email- which i've already screenshotted- to you. Theres a link in the e-mail you got, its pretty much meant for sharing the ban message and full log. You can just copy-paste it.
> [{quoted}](name=Grip of Noodles,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=VzaerMMK,comment-id=00070000000000000000,timestamp=2015-08-18T21:03:59.060+0000) > > Theres a link in the e-mail you got, its pretty much meant for sharing the ban message and full log. You can just copy-paste it. As much as this may make me sound silly, can you please guide me to where this link is? So far the only link i see is a hyperlinked "here" which leads to the forums
huckasex (EUW)
: whats a full log ban? you shall post your full chatlog so we can see what you actually said and if you dont do that it means you are hiding something and thus the ban is deserved
> [{quoted}](name=huckasex,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=VzaerMMK,comment-id=000700000000,timestamp=2015-08-18T20:52:18.373+0000) > > whats a full log ban? > > you shall post your full chatlog so we can see what you actually said > and if you dont do that it means you are hiding something and thus the ban is deserved If you read my message i have already described about my current issues, so it should be quite clear that i would make a mistake somewhere. I alread have posted my full chat log- in text and screenshots. If this is not enough for you then all i could really do otherwise is forward the email- which i've already screenshotted- to you.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=Shiwah,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=VzaerMMK,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2015-08-18T19:14:08.201+0000) > > Mh, you know, report calling is actually a legit reason to report someone. > > Nice try tho. I never recall saying that report calling isn't a reason to report someone- I just believe that getting 2 weeks for this one match where only one ally reported me, feels quite unjustified.
huckasex (EUW)
: full log or ban deserved
> [{quoted}](name=huckasex,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=VzaerMMK,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2015-08-18T20:40:00.658+0000) > > full log or ban deserved Oh I see.. can you atleast give a reason for why i deserve a full log ban..? That's kinda what i asked for.
Aedre (EUW)
: I can understand you as I am autistic too and it gets hard for me to sometime react to people. Hell , at least this is LoL but I face problems like these in RL as well xD I'll suggest you ignore people and mute them if needed.Try to make some friends to play with who can understand you and help you to get better.Hope this helps and your ban issue gets solved quickly , good luck and have fun :D
> [{quoted}](name=Aedre,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=VzaerMMK,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2015-08-18T20:39:03.058+0000) > > I can understand you as I am autistic too and it gets hard for me to sometime react to people. Hell , at least this is LoL but I face problems like these in RL as well xD > > I'll suggest you ignore people and mute them if needed.Try to make some friends to play with who can understand you and help you to get better.Hope this helps and your ban issue gets solved quickly , good luck and have fun :D Thanks for the thoughtful message! I'll keep trying but its a lil tough hehe, And well, I can't really ranked as a full premade for my Solo/Duo queue. Its not that its hard for me to react.. its more of, I feel like me being reported for not being comfortable with someone using something we're born with as an insult, is not a fair report, if that makes sense?
cacarott (EUW)
: Btw I forgot to ask what does Mh mean? I do not think I have seen that abbreviation before :D
> [{quoted}](name=cacarott,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=VzaerMMK,comment-id=00050000000000000000,timestamp=2015-08-18T20:16:33.623+0000) > > Btw I forgot to ask what does Mh mean? I do not think I have seen that abbreviation before :D Its meant to be like a sound, Like Mhm or Hmm c:
xCillion (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=A Sinister Goat,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=VzaerMMK,comment-id=0000000000010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-08-18T18:24:36.765+0000) > > Hmm.. it feels odd to me that wanting to learn about other builds in the game is offensive, but i guess thats how these things work.. thanks gain anyway <3 It's more the reportcalling and negative attitude in the log i can read. Basically the way you say things might be considered negative towards other players. Learning or teaching people about builds is fine, but how things are beeing said matters alot.
> [{quoted}](name=xCillion,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=VzaerMMK,comment-id=00000000000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-08-18T18:28:18.543+0000) > > It's more the reportcalling and negative attitude in the log i can read. Basically the way you say things might be considered negative towards other players. Learning or teaching people about builds is fine, but how things are beeing said matters alot. Hm.. I guess thats true but its hard to get across with dyslexica to be honest. Thats why dinnerbwl is helping me make sure this all makes sense ^^ I will continue to try my hardest either way. Hopefully this gets resolved.. Its very upsetting to be banned during my one week holiday of the year
xCillion (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=A Sinister Goat,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=VzaerMMK,comment-id=00000000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-08-18T18:03:28.813+0000) > > On this account i have had a 75 game chat restriction about a month or two ago. This restriction was COMPLETELY deserved and i take full responsibility. I even asked riot if they could contact the person i had insulted quite harshly to let them know that i was truly sorry. Sadly riot said that it was better left as it is? along those lines. Other than that i've tried my hardest to stay as not a flamer. I'll admit, i talk alot in the chat, and i question builds alot. sometimes people think im trying to mock them when i question their builds.. In truth im just trying to learn if that makes sense? Maybe i do deserve a ban, im not sure.. Sorry for any confusion Hm, yeah this does make it look like it was a case of continued "bad" behaviour. Basically you did not improve the behaviour that got you punished the first time, and now this is the next step to tell you "hey, that is not ok, please stop". So eventually support will just confirm that this was deserved due to your behaviour :s However, its not too late to change yet. (but if you keep the behaviour up the next punishments will eventually be permanent :/ ) Just try to not type in chat so much, if you are angry/mad or anything that could be seen as negative (reportcalling and these things) try to just yell them at your screen, or type them to a friend with /r in private. (getting it out there helps, without actually offending the other player ingame). Some even disabled their chat completely (kinda drastic, but if it stops them from getting into trouble and nothing else helped why not ^.^) There are many ways or possible things you can do, you just need to find the one that suits you best, and keeps you from actually blaming/offending others in chat, or generally having a negative chat.
> [{quoted}](name=xCillion,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=VzaerMMK,comment-id=000000000001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-08-18T18:14:52.190+0000) > > Hm, yeah this does make it look like it was a case of continued "bad" behaviour. Basically you did not improve the behaviour that got you punished the first time, and now this is the next step to tell you "hey, that is not ok, please stop". > > So eventually support will just confirm that this was deserved due to your behaviour :s > > However, its not too late to change yet. (but if you keep the behaviour up the next punishments will eventually be permanent :/ ) > > Just try to not type in chat so much, if you are angry/mad or anything that could be seen as negative (reportcalling and these things) try to just yell them at your screen, or type them to a friend with /r in private. (getting it out there helps, without actually offending the other player ingame). > Some even disabled their chat completely (kinda drastic, but if it stops them from getting into trouble and nothing else helped why not ^.^) > > There are many ways or possible things you can do, you just need to find the one that suits you best, and keeps you from actually blaming/offending others in chat, or generally having a negative chat. Hmm.. it feels odd to me that wanting to learn about other builds in the game is offensive, but i guess thats how these things work.. thanks gain anyway <3
Weenaru (EUW)
: Yep, 14 day ban is definitely too much for this. Though, asking people to ban someone else in your team isn't something you should do. Don't say "please enjoy the 2 week ban c:" either, that's not really nice. Other than that, it looks pretty clean.
> [{quoted}](name=Weenaru,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=VzaerMMK,comment-id=000000000002,timestamp=2015-08-18T18:01:21.565+0000) > > Yep, 14 day ban is definitely too much for this. > Though, asking people to ban someone else in your team isn't something you should do. Don't say "please enjoy the 2 week ban c:" either, that's not really nice. > Other than that, it looks pretty clean. Okay, thanks so much for the response mr weenaru!
xCillion (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=A Sinister Goat,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=VzaerMMK,comment-id=000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2015-08-18T17:52:47.982+0000) > > Sorry for my lack of clarity! The accidental ban thing with the mistake email, that was on an alternate account, not the one that i am currently banned on. There was an incident on the alternate account where i was being verbally aggressive to someone for calling a teammate "definition of cancer," but i don't relaly recall any "flame" on this account at all within the last.. 2 weeks at the very least, and i doubt ther was any for atleast a weak before that due to how little i played. Thanks for your reply by the way! <3 Hmm i see i see, even tho time doesnt really matter, its more games played.. I get your Point. But support will be able to confirm if this was deserved or not. And also maybe explain a bit more why it was a 14day suspension.. Mind me asking if you previously had chat/ranked restrictions on any of your accounts, but mainly this one is what im curious about.
On this account i have had a 75 game chat restriction about a month or two ago. This restriction was COMPLETELY deserved and i take full responsibility. I even asked riot if they could contact the person i had insulted quite harshly to let them know that i was truly sorry. Sadly riot said that it was better left as it is? along those lines. Other than that i've tried my hardest to stay as not a flamer. I'll admit, i talk alot in the chat, and i question builds alot. sometimes people think im trying to mock them when i question their builds.. In truth im just trying to learn if that makes sense? Maybe i do deserve a ban, im not sure.. Sorry for any confusion
: Wtf? Well it's Riot ban system. What did you except? Contact Riot support if it really wasn't your fault, because from this text I don't find anything harrasing or such :/
Perhaps my text was incorrect? I am not sure. I send some screenshots showing the chat log above, so if you see anything let me know? Im sure riots report team are trying their hardest, and i have no right to judge them, which is why im asking for.. ways to improve. It's just sad that after 2 weeks, i will have started and finished my only holiday for this year out of work time. This is quite upsetting for a gaming addict like me, hehe
xCillion (EUW)
: Just jumping in here, the error bans from some time ago, all bans from that time got unbanned, and sent the sry we had a mistake mail. This means that eventually you were due for a punishment back then already, and now the system has cought up to you again. (in your case it seems like continued mild toxic behaviour, after reading the logs they are not extreme so i doubt its a 1game case). For everything else it's pretty much what shiwah and irrsinn already mentioned, and keep talking to support for more Information. Have a nice day :)
Sorry for my lack of clarity! The accidental ban thing with the mistake email, that was on an alternate account, not the one that i am currently banned on. There was an incident on the alternate account where i was being verbally aggressive to someone for calling a teammate "definition of cancer," but i don't relaly recall any "flame" on this account at all within the last.. 2 weeks at the very least, and i doubt ther was any for atleast a weak before that due to how little i played. Thanks for your reply by the way! <3
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
I had a previous case like that on an alternate account in the past! I was banned and given a chat log which didnt really explain anything to me. A week later i recieved an email from riot apologising for a ban i apparently recieved "yesterday.." even though im fairly certain that a week is longer than a day. i Hope you're right, friend!
: Totally understand your inner flame ''Shakes fist at team'', what helps is screaming in your room :P Using /r is great, but if you want to get tactics wrapped up quickly in Fights, it might be better to TS/Curse/Skype. just a Tip, if people start arguing back, don't continue the Argument with them, but Just say what you would like to happen forexample you ask the team to do Dragon.. Master Yi says ''fuck you'' then you continue with Guys lets ward around dragon.. notice how you ignore the insult, Later when you start winning.. Master YI simply follows the shot calls because he sees it is working, Or the 3 other players listen to the shot calling while master yi just flames alone and gets isolated, i Definitly see why you would be dissappointed, i had a Person on Chat say ''i wish people like you cancer'' and he even added many racist things etc, now that is toxic.. your situation is really not close to that. Hope they reverse your ban <3 Good luck
Aw thats a really great idea! And whilst i know that the voice call thing would be better.. The reason why i /r is because my friend (s) don't need to reply, such as my boyfriend, via messages. He can tell you himself, and he started claiming riot to be discriminative for this ban! His ingame name is dinnerbowl, but i think he plays on his smurf, direwolfy, the most! He can confirm that i usually just listen to my friend (s) talking in a call but i can't really bring myself to respond if that makes sense? So i just use chat. I don't know how to explain it and i know its super stupid. Oh and you said i dont strike you as toxic? That makes me really happy! In the past, i used to get very angry at my team. Angrier than your average call of duty player, but i personally think ive improved. Its just words like "mental illness.." trigger my anger? for example, when an ally, or even a friend, says "This ____ gives me cancer" I get really angry and sometimes say bad things and get chat bans for it. My response was wrong because of my choice of words, infact i shouldve just left it alone. Also could we play together some time? Its my first time on the forums and i've gotten alot of kind responses. I know you're probably all very busy but it'd be nice if one or two of you would add me and we could spend some time together?
LA Losty (EUW)
: Sorry if i ask for alot of information, but its not the first time people have left out the flame part, could you screenshot it? :P
Sure! Sorry for any late responses, im getting alot more replies than i expected! It's completely understandable for you to be concerned! is it okay if i crop out the sides of the screenshot? Simply because I don't really want to be spreading any of my person contact details to anyone on the forums.. http://snag.gy/9Uc1h.jpg http://snag.gy/wdZCi.jpg http://snag.gy/i5LkH.jpg This is all of the chat, including the unrelated bits. For any of my mistakes, please provide corrections! So far i've been told by riot from a previous ban that report calling was a mistake for a 2 week ban, in the past. I don't know if thats why i've been banned this time, or if it was because of any sarcastic comments, or because i used the ugly term "mental illness" and maybe an automated system picked this up as offensive? Thanks again for your help, Friend!
: A 14 day ban, was very harsh in this case, that is very unfortunate. you don't strike me as a really toxic person either. in general, you should type less in chat, especially about other players, its practically worthless, i even stopped saying GG, i only say stuff like all mid, Baron/Dragon.. Or Lets splitpush etc but in general make it a habit to not use the chat instead use TS/Curse/Skype with a Friend. if u want to give people advise, make it seem like its part of a Team plan, Ill Go Top and you Go mid. Don't say why you Buy that item.. because he already bought it and now its too late. u weren't too abusive, but you did write far too much and report calling of 2 weeks and you focused on Other people's plays more then you should have.
Oh. I shall take your advice to heart and try to hold in my addiction to talking, hehe. I enjoy it quite a bit :/ Usually i try to refrain from "report calling" as you have called it, But I think my inner flamer (if its classed as flaming?) took over after he insulted me for my "mental issues." I apologies again if this sounds like just some random.. Well complaint, And i'll take your advice, thanks! Oh and usually i just use /r to talk to my premade friend/friends in chat so i don't irritate randoms. Do you think that's a good idea? My friend(s) are fine with it, but I don't know if thats a bad idea? : (
Irrsinn (EUW)
: Hm the worst I see is report calling - which the current system punishes very fast and very hard afaik. That plus "enjoy your two week ban" All in all I don't see this game as really negative. There have been, however, cases where the shown game wasn't really the only one you were punished for with other games actually beeing the reason for the ban. I would advise you to contact the Support. This will take time and your first answer will probably be a template answer. Stay on the case afterwards.
Okay, Thank you very much for your quick responses everyone! It may sound silly but these response are heart-warmingly fast, if that makes sense? I wll contact them as soon as possible. I know a long time ago i was reported for report calling - and this was shown in an email where Riot responded with an apology for banning me for a week unjustifiably. I sinsierly hope this isn't the case again, as i was going to try my hardest to improve in my upcoming holiday.. : ( Ahwell, Thanks for your time friend <3
LA Losty (EUW)
: How about you post your chatlogs?
If you mean from the email from riot here it is, if not then i'm sorry for my incompetence: i wish anivia didnt have the lowest armour in the game seriously, 21 base armour? oh Yasuo, akali isnt even level 30 dude ur vs an unranked, un level 30 akali have fun xD she has 30,0,0 masteries wait what so shes unranked level 30? yeah i just said dat x but shes unranked so have fun xD oh i flashed i blame shen u didnt ulti me xD dat karma roam welp riven didnt even touch me what even happened to our lane we were rekking face D: : ( sorry senpai *cri* so it is my fault xD ow need gank D: um focus adc? D: who? devourers shen? O.o also why did u focus the support..? kalista under tower report shen please for verbal abuse <3 Gnar, we already shut up, you're too late yes i have lots of them nice ur insulting people with mental issues? niiiiice please enjoy the 2 week ban c: IE maw is for late game only when u are full build, then u get maw ^^ np np also yas u might want randuins after IE or Bork because the active slow will help stop kalista kite Also, If you're able to give me confirmation, do you think Randuins is good on Yasuo vs a fed Kalista? (Fed due to my mistake in bot) Or was that a bad recommendation? Sorry for taking up your time
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