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Bulshlaka (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Adc Insanity,realm=EUW,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=zXNABAEy,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2020-02-05T00:31:30.746+0000) > > I asked what you CAN do in this situation since i am learning how to jungle as i said. I also said i am not tilted and i don't care that i lost the game, so let me ask you back, which part of my post didn't you understand? You can analyze every game and find at least 1 mistake, no matter what elo or which player. But you only improve when you realize these mistakes and ask yourself what you could have done like i do here. That situation was hard to analyze for me, i didn't know what to do because the enemy teams were dominating in these games. Yeah i care about if it was a good game or not because i want to improve, doesn't mean when i am 30/0 and my team has lost that it was a good game, i never said such things. Your telling me it's pointless to dwell on that game and this is absolute helpless. Nobody is forcing you to read the stuff here, and nobody is forcing you to give me a answear or advice so why discuss uneccessary? And who is from "us" are you representing the whole forum here? As i said nobody is forcing someone to be here, read or answear to peoples post. If you think my post is stupid or is pointless to answear then feel free to ignore it :) stomps are caused by a collective failure as a team there is nothing one could have done more to offset the collective int i already told you we could look at the vod and tell you 100 mistakes and even if you went back in time and fixed every last one of them you wouldn't have won that game thats why i said it's better to /mute all and go next where you can play a closer game where your actions matter in the games where your actions matter your mistakes also matter in games where your actions don't matter nothing you do matters i hope the repetition sets my point this time otherwise you are hopeless
Just do me a favour and stop commenting my stuff, thanks :)
: Jax, Nocturne are fine Junglers, too and help you to focus on macro play. Considering I had a [topic](https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/new-player-advice-euw/5Akgb0lr-how-to-jungle-correctly?comment=0000000000000001), in which I talked about learning jungle, and talked about it and tested this: Herald > Dragon. Here are the short versions: Get to aim for taking HP, especially against HP sustaining compositions. You said _hit every cc but i mostly wait with my cc till the enemy flashes (depends on where his position is on the lane) then try to E him to secure the kill_. That was your greed and it may get you killed. Your engage is really bad this way, because if you do what junglers do and gank at lvl 2-4, you will risk dieing a lot more, than if you hit your CC. Also, **"forget" bottom until minute 20**. Herald is more important, mid lane and top lane > bot lane. mid and top can potentially shut down fed bot carries. Herald gives your team tower and and your behind laner gold = pressure on the map. The only situations you go bottom lane and ignore Herald is, if you are behind and know for sure you can sneak one or two kills at bottom. If your bottom gets ganked, do not hate bottom lane. With you not being at bot lane, you cannot change the fight loss, only vision control you can change from prior bottom lane ganks. You watch the map too rarely. If enemies seem to know you are coming or where you are, you should increase your vision. You said _In this case i can't even secure objectivs no matter if it's a drake or herold, when someone sees me doing objectivs it doesn't take 2 seconds till pantheon crashes like a plane into my face or something else happens that totally demolishes me._ It is a common mistake to keep having normal ward trinket instead of getting sweeping lense and buy pink wards for objectives or obvious bushes. If noone wards, then keep ward trinket, but do not do risky plays without knowing where wards are. E.g. get objective without a **pink ward in the right position and when laners obviously go to river for a long time expect a ward somewhere.** Scuttler will increase vision in river and certain paths and the flowers, which give sight over everything, can be saved for this occassion.
Thanks for the advice i will keep that in mind. Since i mostly play Elise i can just Rappal to escape after a gank (doesn't work always ofc). I start with the yellow ward and place it at like 50 seconds and recall so i switch to oracle lense. I mostly heard drake is more important but i will try that out in a few games. I am not sure if my engage is really bad since i see many streamers with high ranks doing that the same way with Elise >.>. When i die then it's mostly because i ganked with half life and didn't respect the enemy laner enough, or because my laner isn't engaging or helping me at all.
N00BL0RD (EUNE)
: Why am I so bad at this game?
Just playing it for hours won't make you better after some time. You need to watch guides, try out stuff, practice it and see your own mistakes. Why do you lose? What was the reason the enemy laner killed you? Did you do bad trades? Did you forgett to place your ward so you could have seen the jungler ganking? Did you see the enemy laner in mid is missing and roams? Did you farm more cs then the enemy etc. there are so many things you can improve on, but you need to know WHY you lose first. Watch e few replays and watch the same champ played by a dia+ player and compare. Realize the difference between them and you then pick 1-2 things you want to improve on, master it then do it again. To master your champion is also really important. You can know how to do all these things but if you don't know what your champion is capable of it's useless.
Hananim (EUW)
: Dont play nidalee below diamond. Elize ekko warwick are excellent junglers at the moment. Dont gank lanes with big enemy minion waves crashing towards your laners turret and you force him to: 1. Give up cs exp and gold in order to help with a gank 2. Take cs exp gold but not help you with the gank 2 is the correct play for the laner. In champ select and load screen you need to formulate a game plan and jungle path. Do you have a snowbally mid? Is it a volatile matchup top? Is their jungler better in 1v1s early? Top isnt worth ganking unless its a volatile matchup like riven vs darius in which case you gank once or twice, get your laner the advantage and hope they dont %%%% up. Camping bot is the highest percentage play due to adcs being busted and dragons giving soul. And dont forget to buy control wards and place it in the river bush near jungle entrances. Place yours on the opposite side of your midlaners control ward, if he wards topside you ward botside etc. This helps prevents invades and gives your mid vision coverage. In your situation i would have just farmed botside and try to countergank whenever ww comes. There will be games where you literally cannot do anything, just dont get upset and move on, no point dwelling on it.
Thank you for your advice i will keep that in mind. And yeah i am mostly not playing Nidalee since she's much harder to master with all the animation cancells etc. I mostly use the same jungle path, i start red->wolfes->blue then gromp to get a quick lvl 3 so i can gank with Elise. Then i mostly focus on ganking lanes. I just realized when i read your post that i focus way to much on the top lane, i will try out focusing more the bot side maybe that will work better for me.
Bulshlaka (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Adc Insanity,realm=EUW,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=zXNABAEy,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2020-02-04T12:37:47.452+0000) > > Ok but what has this to do with any of these things i asked? I honestly don't care if my mates are diamond or bronze i focus on my game, i just tracked them in that game cause i was curious. And i also disable the chat mostly i just had it on because i resetted it by mistake. And yeah i know i don't play perfectly and do mistakes (like every player sometimes i guess?), and i try to do it better in the next game but that's not the answear i was looking for. I am also not trying to complain here or something else since this won't help me in any ways, i just asked for advice. you asked what you could have done i told you it's pointless to dwell on that as there was nothing you could have done what part of my post was not clear enough of an answer for you? what do you want from us? to theorize on a hypothetical game that you experienced specifically? im sure if we look at the vod we can pipoint 100 mistakes from you would that help you? i doubt it. what you care about is having a good game and when your whole team ints that isn't a good game anymore so dissecting your gameplay is completely pointless
I asked what you CAN do in this situation since i am learning how to jungle as i said. I also said i am not tilted and i don't care that i lost the game, so let me ask you back, which part of my post didn't you understand? You can analyze every game and find at least 1 mistake, no matter what elo or which player. But you only improve when you realize these mistakes and ask yourself what you could have done like i do here. That situation was hard to analyze for me, i didn't know what to do because the enemy teams were dominating in these games. Yeah i care about if it was a good game or not because i want to improve, doesn't mean when i am 30/0 and my team has lost that it was a good game, i never said such things. Your telling me it's pointless to dwell on that game and this is absolute helpless. Nobody is forcing you to read the stuff here, and nobody is forcing you to give me a answear or advice so why discuss uneccessary? And who is from "us" are you representing the whole forum here? As i said nobody is forcing someone to be here, read or answear to peoples post. If you think my post is stupid or is pointless to answear then feel free to ignore it :)
Bulshlaka (EUW)
: /mute all and accept these kinds of games as losses not every game is winnable at perfect play for your own elo you should be at around 60% win rate if you are smurfing that win rate increases by 10% per tier difference ie if you are platinum smufing in gold at your best play you should be at 70% win rate that still means you will lose 30% of your games when you are clearly better than everyone in the lobby accept those games and move on you can go into the replay and see if you could ahve done anything better but other than that it's pointless to dwell on these kind of losses
Ok but what has this to do with any of these things i asked? I honestly don't care if my mates are diamond or bronze i focus on my game, i just tracked them in that game cause i was curious. And i also disable the chat mostly i just had it on because i resetted it by mistake. And yeah i know i don't play perfectly and do mistakes (like every player sometimes i guess?), and i try to do it better in the next game but that's not the answear i was looking for. I am also not trying to complain here or something else since this won't help me in any ways, i just asked for advice.
: It is because RITO polices only toxic words and ignores toxic actions; they subtly encourage inting by punishing them rarely, trolls by punishing them very rarely and afk players by giving no punishment. This can be simply checked by seeing the profiles of players we report and it is not hard to see whether someone is getting banned or not. And the worst thing is that if we submit tickets with proof of this, asking for punishment of player who ruins the games, the support gives a bot response that is like "oh, thanks for letting us know. That player had a bad game/bad internet connection and do you have any other query?". Other than playing the coin-flip of which team has more inters, trolls or afk, we have no other option and if we're to write even few negative words it may result in instant punishment. p.s: strange thing is that report calling is punishable. so if you come across someone spamming "rep player X", write this to them :)
Haha such things also happened to me, the support is absolute useless. Riot says they take things like suicid, racism and toxic behaviour serious but if i send the support a ticket with 10 screenshots from the lobby where a player did all of these things they just tell me they will check it and can't tell me more about this case. When i track this player (this guy is quite famous in EUW for his behaviour) he keeps playing since 2 weeks like nothing happened. That is really pathetic in my opunion, a company that says they take things like that really serious, but if you proof it they don't really care or do anything.
Protoje (EUW)
: Exactly, and I will never understand this.. league is not a game that is decided during the first 10 minutes. The outcome of every game can change in an instant. Do you ever see pro gamers surrender? I dont. At least, i can recall only one time where a team surrendered in LCS. One. Time.
Not gonna lie, i honestly vote for ff too. The reason is when i see my top, mid, jungler getting totally dominated and demolished and the enemy team has much better late game scaling (Master Yi jungle, Kassadin mid, Riven top) i honestly don't see a point to keep that game up until 30 minutes+. But if my team is losing but has better scaling and better macro or someone that is carrying really hard i keep focusing and try to play at least safe when i am about to lose the laning phase. But yeah you are right pro players don't ff, if they do then very rarely. But it makes much more sense to keep playing in high elo cause they know how to abbuse mistakes and how to macro, if you are in silver like me and people don't actually know even the basics of the game it's honestly not worth sometimes.
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Protoje (EUW)
: > But i love Silvers for one thing...They still have hope that ban system will do it's job so they're spamming ''report this guy,report the other guy''...They have strong mental i'm not gonna lie and i respect it! You probably got lucky there... Cause in my experience, yes, silvers want to report everyone, but having a strong mental? Definitely not. My experience in especially those low elo rankeds is, that people give up way too quickly. peopl want to surrender when its 4/0 after 10 minutes and therefore give up, feeding even more. And if that is not the case, people are sooo dayum toxic, they insult everything and everyone even tho when they are playing bad as well, causing the whole team to stop wanting to play that particular game. And if you asked the enemy team to report a certain player for being toxic, the reply is either "shut up" or "i can understand that seeing you/one of your team". And if they are running it down and you ask them to report them for griefing, their reply is "im gonna report you for being toxic, cause he's just having a bad game". So, having faith in the report system? yes Having a good mindest? Hell nah.
I agree haha, people in low elo want to "ff next" when they got a 0/2 or blame others instead of using their time to play or just to improve so they don't stay hardstuck in their elo. But that's exactly why 90% of low elo player are in that elo, all they do is blaming, flaming, talking trash and wasting time.
Tulsari (EUW)
: Thank you for the advice! I will watch videos and read guides, but what can I do about people being AFK or trolling in every game?
Add me if you have questions and i can coach you a bit if you want to. Yeah the match making is terrible but i am sure your team will get smurfs too sometimes.
rubby0w0 (EUW)
: This game is an endless cycle of pain.
I didn't track you but if that what you say is true you are very unlucky. Just find some other people for a 5 man group or play with a duo partner is you play solo que.
H W N D U (EUW)
: Dont think you have understood the point of the post. Tipical sheep like get good post. Whats the pojnt to reply to parrot opinions like a sheep? Clearly riot is trolling me. 75% loss rate but always holding my own. Everyobe admits somegames are unwinnable. A high percentage of my games are unwinnable.
Yeah you are completly right, Riot has nothing better to do the whole day then focusing on trolling you. Sorry for my stupid comment.
H W N D U (EUW)
: ive started another game. Imj jungle lee, its 12 mins in. Im 6/1 and have all; teams kills our mid has died 5 times and is flaming me and top is flaming me for not ganking
That's normal, losers always flame and blame others. It's easier to blame others then beeing honest with yourself and try to improve.
: why there are only smurf?
I read the text twice and still don't understand it
A1laku (EUW)
: I'm lvling an acc on EUW, lvl 22 atm, if you wanna play together for a while you're more then welcome, you can ask me anything as we play and maybe you'll learn some as we go. IGN Ashe supp 24 7 (EUW).
Thanks for offering me your help but i am currently not playing that much right now, and if i do i practice csing and other stuff on my own or play ARAM. But i will definitly play more activ when the new season starts :)
HighJay (EUW)
: When i smurf on lower elo i tend to just ignore my team and focus on my own rather than focusing on what others are doing. Carying in lower elo is basicly you farming and getting as fast of an item advantage as possible. With Caitlyn for example once you hit IE, storm, RFC, (cloack) you basicly just have to maximize distance and auto attack them to death. What i used in season 2/3 to get from silver to diamond was actually playing loads of other champs that are played a lot in that elo category. Also watch vods of those champs instead of just your own. Having an understanding of your own champs is good but i tend to feel that people don't know the strenghts and weaknesses of other champions they play against. I've been an ad main all my league "carreer", so if you want to add me for further question i'm always willing to help.
Yeah i do the same, as soon as people start flaming and talking trash i just mute all and try to focus on my lane, i just watch between fights what other lanes do just do be aware of it. And yeah when i realize my support isn't that good or dies to often i don't even try to fight the enemy laners i just try do freeze the wave and farm my cs. So you buy IE before storm? Because i used to buy Storm->Berserker Greaves->IE. And i agree, to know what the enemy adc can do is definitly good and i used to watch tons of adc guides and tried almost every adc out just to know how the mechanics on them work. Thank you for your help i precite it :)
: There's a lot of factors in getting our of low elo. But even high diamonds smurfs have a hard time getting out of Iron. What I would tell you is simply getting a duo partner until you're silver 3+, after that people play more "skillfully" and you could carry without your team thinking that you are stupid as well. Another way to carry is to look for high elo smurfs in your team and support team, give them all power and they will just carry you through the games. As soon as you hit Gold 4 or low gold elo, you could start to feel your learning curve, either you are good enough to keep climbing or you are feeling like you are falling. Either way, reaching Gold 4 atm is without doubt the main goal for you.
Thanks for the advice with the duo partner, that seems to be so far the best option. I don't like the idea of having high elo smurf in the team since i want to climb by myself and not want to get carried. But i precite your comment, thank you.
PurpleOrk (EUW)
: Could be that you're not as good as you think you are, that you haven't improved much and you still have to improve a lot, until you carry every game 1v5, and you're at the rank that you deserve until you're basically a master and can get out of your hard-stuck silver. That's what the fanbois and shills here are going to tell you, anyway. I on the other hand recommend you to try making a new account, and give it a shot with 30 games, instead of 300. I bet you get a very different result climbing when the system hasn't kicked hard to keep you at 50% and leave you stuck wherever you are ^^
Show me pls how to carry as adc in a 1v5 where the enemy team isn't completly dumb. As i said if i can't farm in early/mid game or even get kills because of these reasons how should i carry? A adc with less cs and kills is almost worthless in the late game. You can't stay in the front in a team fight as adc because your sqishy. And i never said im high elo or something, im maybe gold from my experiences and skill. Yeah there is still things to improve like my csing i don't farm 100% of my minions even if my support isn't a idiot and im not trying to hidde such facts but im almost 100% sure it's not because i don't know how to play ranked. I mean i can't go carry the top laner when he's getting dominated by a irelia with 7 kills. If my lane performs good and i get advantage with kills i can actually carry, but not when the full enemy team is feeded... But i precite your comment, maybe i try out what you said.
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