SpaceFoxCZ (EUNE)
: Pyke
Reading these comments hurts. A lot of supports have wave clear tools. Period. He is still gonna be played in lane because his sustain is too much to deal with in the mid lane and once he gets Tiamat he can still outpush most mana midlaners. And if not, he's hard to punish because of his sustain. If anything, Pyke support lost an important tool that a lot of other supports also have. It's disturbing how little people seem to realize that supports benefit greatly from wave clear in the bot lane. Denying an aggressive support wave clear tools to control the wave while the wave also blocks his engage is worse than it seems. Apparently.
: PERMABANNED FOR PRIVATE CHAT - Update and conclusion
This genuinely made me furious. I have so little trust in Riot already. Their naming policy is so ambiguous as well. Basically "If it offends people you have to change it." They can tell you your name is fine and have you change it literally the next day because some mong got offended by it. I had to change mine because I got harassed. The people who harassed me for hours got away because they are apparently a victim for finding my old name offensive. But honestly, getting banned for private chat. I say things to friends that are not OK all the time, which are clearly jokes that we laugh about. Say one of them got mad at me for something else, they could report me and I could get banned. Epic. Cool!
: Riot is nerfing the wrong aspects of yuumi.
Yuumi's base mana is way too high for how low her costs are. I get that she has low health and thus gets more mana but this is just ridiculous. Unless she somehow uses her at the wrong time every time it's up or her ADC is literally a monkey. As in, the actual animal. The one operating the PC on which the ADC plays is a literal animal with no understanding of the game--- She will have you poked out of lane before you run out of mana. In most match-ups she basically 1v2s bot early while being untargetable and not running out of mana just to scale into a late-game monster. :)))) Nice!
: NEEKO
I... Death sounds nice.
: Time to make some changes
Also: Remove Deathcap. No need for it anymore with how many burst options mages already have.
: Limited edition Borders price is a joke
People seem to completely miss the point and I agree. It's even worse when you can only get the border from a bundle, which costs way more than it's worth.
Dr Lav (EUW)
: Do I deserve to get permanently suspended for this?
This is perfectly acceptable in my opinion. I don't see why anyone would be offended by anything you said here. If they played as poorly as you seemed to explain to them, then they shouldn't be offended. If they didn't it's just not true and they shouldn't be offended? I honestly feel like you might be leaving something out. If this is what you got perma'd for it's quite sad.
CJXander (EUNE)
: That moment when Yasuo and all his cousins are getting banned
Daishar (EUW)
: Some League gems to warm your soul.
: > [{quoted}](name=RetroMagpie,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=J77Zj0s1,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-05-15T08:01:32.485+0000) > > 1. Nope, no chat ban, insta 14 days no warning no nothing "so let's have some truth here". > > 2. Not a repeat offender, I think a year or two ago I got a, hey improve your behaviour tsk tsk, message come up. > > 3. If I might respond to your go %%%%yourself message with positive vibes despite the fact you are totally full of it yourself :) > > The only statement about reporting is that if you false report it lessens the impact of your report. I don't report teammates when they have a bad game, I don't report a teammate for getting stressed out when having a bad game unless they start making targeted harassment of other players. m8 I simply don't believe, no offense but if your going to try and BS people, there is no point in having a conversation about how you can avoid a perma ban, which by the way is almost certain for you if your in denial. I mean your swearing in a public forum, you really expect anyone to believe that your not toxic? No one EVER gets a 14 day insta ban unless they said a lot more than what your fessing up to, it just doesn't happen and spreading that sort of fallacy isn't really going to help your cause.
> [{quoted}](name=LordBadToo,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=J77Zj0s1,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-05-15T08:09:12.818+0000) > > m8 I simply don't believe, no offense but if your going to try and BS people, there is no point in having a conversation about how you can avoid a perma ban, which by the way is almost certain for you if your in denial. I mean your swearing in a public forum, you really expect anyone to believe that your not toxic? > > No one EVER gets a 14 day insta ban unless they said a lot more than what your fessing up to, it just doesn't happen and spreading that sort of fallacy isn't really going to help your cause. Not sure if anyone corrected you yet. Cba to read everything here, but I too was never banned before until I said "%%%" as a joke in a game once. Me and the enemy had friendly banter because they disliked the champ I was playing. We were just messing around with each other but they got super mad I was beating them. They perma flamed, I thought it was funny and said "%%%" in the most ironic way I could. It was so clear it was mockery of the word but I got a 14 day ban because they reported me since they were mad about me playing a braindead champ. I contacted riot asking why I instantly got such a big punishment. They responded by stating that certain offenses are punished harder than others. Telling people to kill themselves and hate speech for example. I'm OK with avoiding these things, even as jokes. Although hardly anyone is actually sensitive enough to get actually offended by these specific words. They get just as offended by "Nice CS, Carl."
Sumpp1 (EUNE)
: Has riot finally perfected balancing?
I actually prefer ardent meta, tank meta and assassin meta over what we're currently having. No set thing is extremely out of line (except ADCs kind of. Again. But only when they get ahead, thanks infinity edge.) But then there's Kayle. And then they "nerf" Kayle but it doesn't fix anything so we wait another 2 weeks for Kayle to properly get nerfed. Then the Urgot changes that didn't get fixed in-time and terrorized my games ever since. Now I have to sit here and wait until next patch to see if they will properly nerf these champs so I can play Ranked again without literally damaging my mental health. Not to mention Vayne still being waaaaaaaaaay too strong in soloq. Although the meta doesn't strongly favor one class of champions there's too many champions that are much, much stronger than they should be. Sylas is still overtuned and won't get nerfed until next patch either. Heca is too strong now (But I abuse him, riot pls no nerf.) Right now is the least fun I'm having with the game since the Juggernaut Rework. And then I actually quit playing until they fixed it xd. During the old shitty metas it was at least clear what you had to do. Right now you can be absolutely stomping a game until 2/0/0 Urgot comes down and starts 1shotting you, your ADC and your mother. All in quick succession. Oh but what if his team so happens to have a Kayle support because why not. He now moves as fast as Rammus while 1shotting you and has a Kayle ult. Or vayne finishes her Rageblade and suddenly 1shots your 5/0 Renekton. Not even gage and or thornmail can spare him that torture. Never before (except juggernaut rework patch) has it felt this hopeless simply because the enemy has "One of these champs"
: > Yes, tanks are very weak. Yes, Damage is WAY too high in the game which negatively affects almost every aspect of the game. Even snowballing is harder because you get 1shot unless you're a 10/0 Renekton or Darius. Damage is too high because tanks are weak... them not being in games means you have them replaced by damage dealers, and without them you loose a lot of damage control. > That aside, some proper tanks were really destroying the game for a while. Maokai, Rammus, Malphite, Volibear (Who is now called a juggernaut for some reason. He doesn't fit the criteria imo.), Ornn, Gragas and Zac all stood atop the meta at some point in the last 2 seasons. > The problem here however was that tanks dealt too much damage. Voli is a juggernaut, he focuses on damage not utility so he fits fighter better than tank. And yes these tanks where in the meta... that doesn’t validate the entire class being killed off. And they where never focal points. Remember,her the tank meta, tanks wherent even the ones that where strong assasins where doing their jobs better. Tanks are highly important to the game, without them damage creep happens. And the vast majority of tanks don’t have damage issues, litterally is just rammus and malph now, the rest all have low damage past the laning phase. No reason not to buff them. > I really wish that tanks could just take a lot of damage without dealing too much damage, actually fulfilling their role the way they should. Sadly a lot will have to change for this to ever happen and seeing the direction the game is currently heading it's gonna be a long time before tanks as a common pick again. Honestly, for this to even be possible Riot will have to nerf their precious mages (and Rageblade. come on, Rageblade Vayne/Yi are sickening). Remove conquerer... boom tanks become somewhat viable again. Not that many changes it’s all because of that rune, The anti tank system being reworked to be less stat check and have an actual skill component allowing outplays on both sides woukd also be good
> [{quoted}](name=swampert919,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=uliBqZ1d,comment-id=0000000000010000,timestamp=2019-03-14T10:03:36.719+0000) > > Damage is too high because tanks are weak... them not being in games means you have them replaced by damage dealers, and without them you loose a lot of damage control. > > Voli is a juggernaut, he focuses on damage not utility so he fits fighter better than tank. > > And yes these tanks where in the meta... that doesn’t validate the entire class being killed off. And they where never focal points. Remember,her the tank meta, tanks wherent even the ones that where strong assasins where doing their jobs better. > > Tanks are highly important to the game, without them damage creep happens. And the vast majority of tanks don’t have damage issues, litterally is just rammus and malph now, the rest all have low damage past the laning phase. No reason not to buff them. > > Remove conquerer... boom tanks become somewhat viable again. Not that many changes it’s all because of that rune, > > The anti tank system being reworked to be less stat check and have an actual skill component allowing outplays on both sides woukd also be good Actually they did dominate the meta at some point. That aside, it's not just that damage is too high simply because tanks are not viable. Back then if you got really fed it was easier to carry games. Now you just get 1shot by a 3/1 mage after you 1shot someone else. If you blow up the mage instead of the adc (if they don't already have Zhonya, RoA, Banshee's or whatever item Riot decided to give a %%%%ton of health) the ADC will kill you in 2,5 seconds while your abilities are on cooldown. If they have Infinity edge that is. This would indeed not be a problem if you had a tank since they would occupy the adc. If they're not idiots. However, even without conqueror on bruisers mages would still deal way too much damage to tanks. Void Staff is way too strong, Liandry's also withers down tanks. Banshee's cucks tanks too (Let's not bring up engaging on a mage who just ignores it with Zhonya's). Essentially, damage and cdr are too easy to come by nowadays and mages have way too many options that are generally too good. Besides Gargoyle's tanks don't have many good tank options. Getting more resistances become almost useless around 150-180 until penetration comes into play. Most tank items including Stoneplate give these resistances that become less valuable the more you have of it. (Stoneplate even up to 80 of both. xd) Now add that aftershock also adds a lot of resistance that tends to go to waste because you have too much of it. What I'm trying to get to is that tank runes and items become less valuable really quickly. Besides grasp tanks have no good solo rune but Grasp is an offensive one. Tanks also really lack health items for when they have abilities that give resistances or for when they decide to use Aftershock. I hardly play tanks anymore but I actually started building Gage on Rammus despite it being so expensive and the build path being very bad for him. I get too much value out of it mid-game with Aftershock and his W. They should turn the resistances you get from Aftershock into a shield like Courage of the Colossus. Like this mages can't abuse Aftershock as much anymore either because their items mainly give health. They will lack resistances and still be squishy even with the shield like they are supposed to be. (Unelss they're Ryze xd)
: Tanks are dead... none are in the meta and very few are viable in solo Q... even in pro play you see no tank junglers, only 1 tank top, and support tanks whivh riot decided to nerf. Everything in the game has counter play, except penetration. You buy it and suddenly you get to ignore the majority of a champion’s... that’s unfair for tanks. It’s especially unfair as tanks have never done anything wrong... every single tank meta had barely any tanks actually in the meta, it was fighters that was the issue (hell the tank meta everyone remembers was ekko and fizz causing issues)... but because nobody in this community seems to be able to tell the difference between tanks and fighters then tanks get nerfed instead... so fighters get to be among the strongest in the game for years and keep getting buffed while everything they do gets attributed to tanks and they get nerfed. Tanks need buffs, the entire anti tank system is unhealthy and needs reworking, and fighters needs nerfs, namely the removal of conquerer.
> [{quoted}](name=swampert919,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=uliBqZ1d,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-03-12T17:37:30.280+0000) > > Tanks are dead... none are in the meta and very few are viable in solo Q... even in pro play you see no tank junglers, only 1 tank top, and support tanks whivh riot decided to nerf. > > Everything in the game has counter play, except penetration. You buy it and suddenly you get to ignore the majority of a champion’s... that’s unfair for tanks. > > It’s especially unfair as tanks have never done anything wrong... every single tank meta had barely any tanks actually in the meta, it was fighters that was the issue (hell the tank meta everyone remembers was ekko and fizz causing issues)... but because nobody in this community seems to be able to tell the difference between tanks and fighters then tanks get nerfed instead... so fighters get to be among the strongest in the game for years and keep getting buffed while everything they do gets attributed to tanks and they get nerfed. > > Tanks need buffs, the entire anti tank system is unhealthy and needs reworking, and fighters needs nerfs, namely the removal of conquerer. Yes, tanks are very weak. Yes, Damage is WAY too high in the game which negatively affects almost every aspect of the game. Even snowballing is harder because you get 1shot unless you're a 10/0 Renekton or Darius. That aside, some proper tanks were really destroying the game for a while. Maokai, Rammus, Malphite, Volibear (Who is now called a juggernaut for some reason. He doesn't fit the criteria imo.), Ornn, Gragas and Zac all stood atop the meta at some point in the last 2 seasons. The problem here however was that tanks dealt too much damage. I really wish that tanks could just take a lot of damage without dealing too much damage, actually fulfilling their role the way they should. Sadly a lot will have to change for this to ever happen and seeing the direction the game is currently heading it's gonna be a long time before tanks as a common pick again. Honestly, for this to even be possible Riot will have to nerf their precious mages (and Rageblade. come on, Rageblade Vayne/Yi are sickening).
KRANKKK (EUW)
: Why is Sylas still not disabeld?
The main problem I have with him is the fact that he has both a shield and a heal. Even when he is low health it's so hard to kill him when he's not behind. very toxic game design. Wish they just removed the shield but kept the heal so if you can hit him before he Ws you when he's low he dies instead of him just pressing E, blocking your damage and then healing half of his health back. xd Nice epic fun, thanks Riot.
Gallóws (EUW)
: Racism
If you typed the word out you must be extremely stupid.
Samyueru (EUW)
: Players facing no consequences for attempting to bullying others out of their role.
I agree with you. But I usually just play the games out. Getting them banned so nobody has a chance to get matched with that account is worth more than losing 13-ish LP to me. Although, this one time I had a replay and screenshots of a group of premades trolling me from champ select, saying racist things like the forbidden N-word and generally just making sure I could not play the game and shared them with our beloved Riot. The dudes didn't get any punishment whatsoever and still got their ranked rewards. I checked their match history, it apparently was a common thing for them to do :))))))))))
RedFairo (EUW)
: Support Items
When I have vision of everyone and we're ahead I like to bully the enemy jungle as a mage support. Now I'm hardly rewarded for doing that. I actually really like the idea of removing the requirement of a nearby ally once you've completed the quest. Ever since the changes I've been playing a lot less support which is my secondary role. I get Riot gets on this and fixes it. It's genuinely garbage xd
Rena (EUW)
: A little story about why it's better to be nice instead of being Toxic
To the guy who said feeders deserve to be flamed, you're a bit off, man. You can tell them that they're doing shit without insulting them. This way you can't get banned either : ^). Flaming them in-game won't make them win the game. If they flame just tell them they're playing poorly themselves and aren't in the position to flame people. If you really need to vent and they are not flaming just say the game is impossible to win with them in the post-game lobby or tell them you hope they drop their food or something like that.
: New Morgana
Not sure if you're trolling or not. Old Morgana was in fact very angry. The VO just wasn't that great and didn't express it properly. She can now fly because she is no longer a fallen angel. She is an Aspect. Something that fits in the lore of this game. Angels don't fit in this game's lore. Not sure why you think her moving quotes are jokes now. Again, I guess you're just trolling. Her old quotes were horrible and she hardly had any. Can't disagree on the butt wings. Wish they put them a bit higher. I wonder if you've even read the new lore. It's genuinely much better than the old one and it makes more sense universe-wise. Her new quotes are definitely better and the interactions with Kayle are neat. Her model looks 100 times better than the old one. I can understand that you don't like what she turned out to be but I can't see why you would prefer her old version. You're probably just looking for something to complain about.
Yousho (EUW)
: I support the de-sexualized design of Morgana. Seriously, sexualizing everything is insulting to everybody. Women aren't sex objects and men aren't drooling idiots.
> [{quoted}](name=Yousho,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=qrbiiGvU,comment-id=00070001,timestamp=2019-03-11T02:26:51.361+0000) > > I support the de-sexualized design of Morgana. Seriously, sexualizing everything is insulting to everybody. Women aren't sex objects and men aren't drooling idiots. I agree with this one. I prefer the way Morgana looks now. I like it when female characters dress more realistically than a battle bikini or babydoll. But Haze has got a point. It's really putting me off. Apparently you can get banned for saying "Egirl" in-game now. But I am sure Eboy and Edaddy/Elodaddy are still things you can say. :)
: A true jungler
Very reasonable after yet another exp nerf
: While I do think it's a %%%% move to ban your teammates champion and you probably f%%k up your karma, I think the possibility shouldn't be removed.
> [{quoted}](name=Global Noc Out,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=Ruuxqmg2,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-10T23:41:11.674+0000) > > While I do think it's a %%%% move to ban your teammates champion and you probably f%%k up your karma, I think the possibility shouldn't be removed. I agree. I don't want to see certain champs at all until they get fixed. They're just not fun to play with or against.
: Tryndamere has never been op anywhere except bronze. No matter ap or ad. and in bronze any champ is op, as long as you know how to play it properly.
> [{quoted}](name=Super Hooker,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=F5qBkHlE,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-08-03T21:38:25.754+0000) > > Tryndamere has never been op anywhere except bronze. No matter ap or ad. > > and in bronze any champ is op, as long as you know how to play it properly. Actually, Tryndamere dominated jungle a while back. Especially in high elo. If you watched any high elo streams you'd see Tryndamere all over the place. That aside, it's not about him being OP or not, really. It's the fact that his kit is so undeniably frustrating to play against. I really think they should just rework his ult to not be a "Lol I won't die for 5 secs ha ha". When you think about it, 5 secs is ridiculously long. It essentially just makes you require to put in a lot of effort for a mechanic that does nothing other than "I won't die haha" that requires him to only press a single button which even works when CC'd.
: Singed is too op.
The problem is that his kit has no mechanics most champs can do something against. He literally runs at you and then runs away dealing 70% of your health and slowing you with Rylai's. There's so little ways to play against him. You're just sitting there, wondering what your life has come to. He honestly needs a rework. People say that Riot won;t change him because he has a "unique" kit but that crap will never be in a right spot. It's either way too strong or too weak.
: can we all take 1 moment to appreciate and agree with this?
I am certainly voting for him after his great Nerf Singed speech. Such beautiful words. So inspirational! "NERF SINGED!" "NERF SINGED!" "NERF SINGED!" "NERF SINGED!" "NERF SINGED!" "NERF SINGED!"
: I'm done with this game! Bots killed all the fun for me!
Ehhh, afaik every gamemode has it's own MMR. Just keep playing some ARAM games with bots for a day or two. I honestly hardly play ARAM. my first efw matches had bots but I NEVER EVER see them anymore. If you truly like ARAM this much you wouldn't be encountering bots anymore at this stage because you'd have played it more..
KendoCC (EUNE)
: Cursor Summoner Icon
I don't just want this. I need this. Also I hope they make the new cursor smaller. It's way too big...
: i dont like aatrox new voice over
I really like the new VO. Mind you, I have over 100K on Aatrox and used to main him for an entire season (back in S5 IIRC.) He has a lot more personality now and if you read his quotes it goes a bit further than just "I WILL KILL ALL!!"
dattista (EUW)
: stop with the "give us urf back"
Agreed. It's honestly ridiculously annoying. Also, screw you. Now I want a big Mac
Vril Cain (EUW)
: Veigar
Ehhhhhmmmm. Wat? It's sickening how often I see a Veigar that's not incredibly fed do 60% of someone's health while they are at 80% health with just his ult. Then someone else finishes them off and he gets that 5 AP just for using his ult the way it's not intended with too much success. Also, Pyke is not necessarily a support. He's an assassin filling the support role. Like how Brand is a mage played in that role. Veigar's ult is also point and click. Veigar is not weak right now and doesn't need buffs. Essentially, ADCs deal less damage to him now so he should be in an even better spot.{{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}}
: Fifty Cards of Cringe
I enjoyed this more than I should...
: > [{quoted}](name=Werewolf Hentai,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=Qd15vYu1,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-09-12T06:01:23.757+0000) > > These are some decent tips, friendo. Especially the farming is a big deal. > > I'll throw in a few extra tips if you don't mind. > > * Actually PRACTICE csing. Not necessarily in customs, but really try to get better at it during your games. CS might not be as cool as 20 kills, but they help you getting those awesome 20 kills. > > * When leaving your lane for roams/objectives/ after the laning phase, also consider exp. A lot of people I play with don't seem tot hink about this. Don't take your jungler's red-buff when there's a massive wave under tower in the lane next to it. Go for the exp instead, it's worth more than trying to get dominance over your own jungle buffs. The exp (and gold) will go wasted, that red buff stays and it's likely tha SOMEONE in your team will get it, resulting in your team having more gold and exp than if you were to let that wave go to waste. > When someone is farming a pushed in lane, don't go there with 3 people. You're denying eachother both gold and exp, go to another lane insteadm even if there's less minions there. This specifically tends to somewhat tilt me. It's so annoying and kinda stupid. > > * If you're a champion that's good at splitting and you end up being behind, ask your team to not force stupid fights. If you're a bruiser get a Hydra (or just Tiamat) if you're an ADC, consider a Statikk or a Runaan's, whichever is better on your champion. It helps you clear waves more eaisly and you can suddenly turn a fight as a 0/3 Sivir (because you have 80 mroe CS than everyone else!) > > * Lastly, it's a good idea to understand how every champion works. If you get beaten by something, check the wiki of the champions you didn't entirely get, read it thoroughly, google how things exactly work if you're curious. The enxt time you'll have a better idea of how to play against it. Even if you do understand how the champion works, don't be afraid to read it again. You might find something you didn't quite get yet, and even if you do, if you read it again you might understand it better. For example, you did know how it worked, but you didn't quite get how much damage it actually deals or how big the shield exactly was and you got surprised and died. The enxt time you'll be better at respecting those things and will have an easier time to play around it. > > I'm currently in my promos to Gold 3, have Gold 1 MMR (so most of my enemies tend to be Plat) and I still do this every time. Even if I won, even if I completely dumpstered them, if I got surprised by something, I read up on it. It helps a lot. I even have a fairly good understanding of every champion (there's a few small exceptions) and I still tend to get surprised sometimes. A good example is me not knowing how long Naut's shield lasts (10 seconds). I expected it to be 4-5 ish seconds since that is average and I engaged on a Naut expecting his shield to go away soon and I died. I now know how long it lasts and know how to respect it. Never fed a Nautilus after that game again. I like all these points. I was trying to be short and snappy so I wanted to focus on 3 big game changers for low elo I see every game. I have recently learned top lane so my mechanics are not the best and I often loose trades but my cs is almost always massively better than my opponents and I am a beast after about 20 minutes despite being camped and abused :p.
> [{quoted}](name=awesomerbob,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=Qd15vYu1,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2017-09-12T08:53:49.053+0000) > > I like all these points. I was trying to be short and snappy so I wanted to focus on 3 big game changers for low elo I see every game. > > I have recently learned top lane so my mechanics are not the best and I often loose trades but my cs is almost always massively better than my opponents and I am a beast after about 20 minutes despite being camped and abused :p. That's good. If you now also find a way to improve your mechanics and learn good ways to impact the map, you'll get your sweet butt out of Bronze in no-time :) It really isn't that hard, and once you're out you'll laugh at how easy you'll find it!
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: > If you're a champion that's good at splitting and you end up being behind, ask your team to not force stupid fights I don't think it's that simple, enemy team can be pretty good at forcing a teamfight and whatever you will say won't make a difference.
> [{quoted}](name=Enjutsu,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=Qd15vYu1,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-09-12T06:06:51.060+0000) > > I don't think it's that simple, enemy team can be pretty good at forcing a teamfight and whatever you will say won't make a difference. I know. But they can see it coming and back off a little and wait for you to return. It's not only "OMG TEAM DON'T FIGHT" you should also try to impact the game, ofcourse! And I meant scenarios like your team jsut trying to engage themselves, 4v5, probably while behind. This happens a lot. in gold and apparently even plat.
: You literally have a Riven-related icon :333
> [{quoted}](name=ZeFlyinDutchman,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=v9pr9auo,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-09-12T13:55:24.507+0000) > > You literally have a Riven-related icon :333 I can see why people dislike Riven but she is not half as frustrating as Shaco. well, that's an opinion I guess. I do agree that he is lacking good skins though. (But I'd rather not see any good skins for him unless they rework that nightmare)
Yeman (EUW)
: Camille, where is she right now?
She is kinda meh right now. Takes too long to scale... The nerfs hit her a little too hard. Especially the W nerfs. To be honest, it would have been better if they just increased the early cooldown a bit instead of removing the heal on creeps.
: bronze advice
These are some decent tips, friendo. Especially the farming is a big deal. I'll throw in a few extra tips if you don't mind. * Actually PRACTICE csing. Not necessarily in customs, but really try to get better at it during your games. CS might not be as cool as 20 kills, but they help you getting those awesome 20 kills. * When leaving your lane for roams/objectives/ after the laning phase, also consider exp. A lot of people I play with don't seem tot hink about this. Don't take your jungler's red-buff when there's a massive wave under tower in the lane next to it. Go for the exp instead, it's worth more than trying to get dominance over your own jungle buffs. The exp (and gold) will go wasted, that red buff stays and it's likely tha SOMEONE in your team will get it, resulting in your team having more gold and exp than if you were to let that wave go to waste. When someone is farming a pushed in lane, don't go there with 3 people. You're denying eachother both gold and exp, go to another lane insteadm even if there's less minions there. This specifically tends to somewhat tilt me. It's so annoying and kinda stupid. * If you're a champion that's good at splitting and you end up being behind, ask your team to not force stupid fights. If you're a bruiser get a Hydra (or just Tiamat) if you're an ADC, consider a Statikk or a Runaan's, whichever is better on your champion. It helps you clear waves more eaisly and you can suddenly turn a fight as a 0/3 Sivir (because you have 80 mroe CS than everyone else!) * Lastly, it's a good idea to understand how every champion works. If you get beaten by something, check the wiki of the champions you didn't entirely get, read it thoroughly, google how things exactly work if you're curious. The enxt time you'll have a better idea of how to play against it. Even if you do understand how the champion works, don't be afraid to read it again. You might find something you didn't quite get yet, and even if you do, if you read it again you might understand it better. For example, you did know how it worked, but you didn't quite get how much damage it actually deals or how big the shield exactly was and you got surprised and died. The enxt time you'll be better at respecting those things and will have an easier time to play around it. I'm currently in my promos to Gold 3, have Gold 1 MMR (so most of my enemies tend to be Plat) and I still do this every time. Even if I won, even if I completely dumpstered them, if I got surprised by something, I read up on it. It helps a lot. I even have a fairly good understanding of every champion (there's a few small exceptions) and I still tend to get surprised sometimes. A good example is me not knowing how long Naut's shield lasts (10 seconds). I expected it to be 4-5 ish seconds since that is average and I engaged on a Naut expecting his shield to go away soon and I died. I now know how long it lasts and know how to respect it. Never fed a Nautilus after that game again.
: Can we talk about Veigar's E?
I play Veigar myself. I'm not crying for nerfs or anything. It's just that that single spell is extremely frustrating. And half a second of a delay is not that much to be honest. I'm not syaing it is too dangerous or anything. It just makes it to hard to kill him, and if you don't kill him he'll end up 1shotting you in 15 minutes.
: Where does this item excel at?
: Shaco has no good skins,and needs a new skin!
Please don't support Shaco players. I don't want to get my lane cmaped buy that annoying piece of Aids every single game again.
: looking for a new champ to inspire me!
Eh Quinn (mid). Started 1tricking it this week. It's fun and you can outplay most midlaners fairly easily. And can use her E to cancel and/or follow most dashes. (Beware of Rammus Q (not a dash though) and gragas' lard slam)
: {{champion:37}} has high burst to compensate her very low defensive stats and high mana costs, Sona is very squishy, any assassin can kill her, the only time you can have a problem with Sona is if she is fed or ahead. Also to note, if you have a {{champion:44}} or a {{champion:89}} against her, they can easily kill her solo (if we talking equal items/gold/exp ect...) she is one of the most squishiest champion in the game, if you are asking for a nerf you need to think what can they do to compensate a damage nerf seems as sonas trade mark is bursting down the ADC
> [{quoted}](name=TheChosenOne TCO,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=IYtPkEjk,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-09-11T02:15:12.083+0000) > > {{champion:37}} has high burst to compensate her very low defensive stats and high mana costs, Sona is very squishy, any assassin can kill her, the only time you can have a problem with Sona is if she is fed or ahead. > > Also to note, if you have a {{champion:44}} or a {{champion:89}} against her, they can easily kill her solo (if we talking equal items/gold/exp ect...) she is one of the most squishiest champion in the game, if you are asking for a nerf you need to think what can they do to compensate a damage nerf seems as sonas trade mark is bursting down the ADC Ehm no. She presses W and R and makes the assassin cry.
: About Sona
I completely agree with you, but that's not the only problem with Sona. Support items are too strong in general right now. That aside, she can still do 30 ish% of an ADC's health at lvl 6 with one Q AA while building support. Her ult is too fast to properly dodge for champions without mobility such as Ashe, Varus, Kog'maw, Lulu, Soraka and the list continues. Besides it moving way too fast, it's also kind of wide, easily stunning multiple people in the fraction of a second. Her cooldowns are too low for the way she works. She ends up being an AoE spam-bot that is way too effective for how easy it is to play her. You can hardly make any mechanical errors with this champion so punishing is very hard. If you make a mistake she is gonna press Q without aiming, aa you and whoops, you got punished really hard. Hey, you still have CDs, go after her and tr-- Nope she pressed W and E, soak up your damage and disengage. Also, she is very squishy but her W both HEALS her AND SHIELDS her. (And everyone around her xd)
Rioter Comments
ThePikol (EUNE)
: I think Riot should make 2-3 tiers of each new skin to avoid players disappointment
I hoped for Syndra to be legendary as her voice doesn't fit at all. It's by far the best Syndra skin but it just feels so weird. It's a good idea btw but I think they shouldn't also make new animations for those skins. I guess just a new voice-over would do like they did with prime-time Draven. But someone has to be hired for that... And why wouldn't we be able to choose whether we use the new voiceover or not like we can choose Chromas but I can imagine this would cause some issues somewhere. I like the idea though but I doubt they will. But hey, god damn Ahri got a Legendary xd xd Edit: I freaking hate Ahri
: > [{quoted}](name=TriPhoenix,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=AwHXMu4A,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-08-29T19:45:35.757+0000) > > i am a jungle main and i hate it when i am doing red at 2:30 and my mid lane starts pinging me like a madman to gank him while i am still lvl 2 , i mean its so annoying . if someone wants a gank don't fight your opponent at lvl 1 and start flaming jungle for not ganking a lane while he still hasnt done his first rotation , i mean its so annoying i usually mute these kind of players There is this idea, that a jungler MUST gank when requested and a laner NEED ganks otherwise it's the jungler's fault if he loses. I wonder when exactly things worked this way because at least since S3 (when i started playing) they were definetely not.
> [{quoted}](name=Sarchiapon,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=AwHXMu4A,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2017-08-29T19:49:03.378+0000) > > There is this idea, that a jungler MUST gank when requested and a laner NEED ganks otherwise it&#x27;s the jungler&#x27;s fault if he loses. I wonder when exactly things worked this way because at least since S3 (when i started playing) they were definetely not. I main jungle but only because I often get the.. Ehm. Less... Good(?) jungler. I used to play both top and jungle equally but now I almost exclusively play jungle because whenever I play top I am extremely disappointed by my jungler. I don't mind losing my lane. I don't mind losing my lane because the enemy jungler ganks me a lot. But when the enemy jungler ganks my lane 5 times, I die for the first time after 5 ganks, enemy jungler is 1/0/1, my jungler is 0/1/0, hasn't entered a lane even once and only outfarms the enemy jungler by 9 cs (This is actually something that happened 2 days ago) I will get very frustrated. Because I am now out of the game, already behind because I lost a lot of cs thanks to forced backs due to ganks, also a death now, if I try to force tp roams I will lose my tower and be even more behind, miss even more exp and gold and won't even be able to defend my tower anymore since I will get ganked and dived by their incompetent jungler. And this would all be okay if my jungler would actually do something somewhere else on the map. But they don't. This may seem like a "OMG MY JUNGLR NVR GANK" rant but it's not. I am actually this unlucky that I am forced to only play jungle most of the time and it's getting stale. I enjoy top a lot but I can't enjoy it since I get ganked a lot. And I try to stay calm and nice and simply ask "Hey <Insert jungler's champion>, the enemy jungler kinda got me out of the game already and I can't do much top, could you maybe start helping the other lanes? Don't bother with top anymore, but bot is doing quite fine, help them snowball and I'll get back up and try to help them too!" "Just ward." <--??? would be the response. if simply warding would completely remove junglers from the game we'd have smite supports and duo tops. And even when I don't die to a gank, I still miss out on gold and exp... So I will end up behind, which they don't seem to understand. When I get a good jungler that does a lot, even if my lane gets ganked to shit and I get dived without even being behind-- If I see that my jungler is doing a great job, I praise the hell out of them. Oh I praise them all game because it is something that I sadly get to see so little. I legit once gifted one of my random junglers a skin because he did good. He was the first jungler that wasn't useless when I played something else than jungle in 3 weeks and I was simply amazed. I was seriously so moved by his proper performance that I rewarded him with a skin. So right now the fact that I tend to have bad luck with just that singular role forcing me to fill in that role myself (I used to love playing jungle but now I just want to play top a bit more but I always regret it...) and the fact that the current meta jungle champs are not really my style makes it so that I find league very difficult to enjoy right now. Now don't get me wrong, not literally all of my junglers are almost a nonfactor (although most of them are...) and I don't always find it boring. I occasionally have very enjoyable games, just the things I mentioned make enjoyable games very scarce and they are most often ARAM games or games where I am drunk with friends.
Sympis (EUW)
: Camille skin
I love Program Camille though.
: My experiences with Ornn so far...IN SONG!
: Most of us play normal games for fun, u don't get ANY BONUSES from winning a normal game, sure you'd probably get extra 10 IP for that one win however, it does NOT cost your MMR/LP/RANK/PROMO game... In fact most of us play normal games to do what we can't do in ranked, like u said chase people, or trying to outplay a 1v2s 1v3s etc, because these are things that are too risky in ranked and could cost us the game, that doesn't give anybody the rights to flame us for having fun, because trust me going under turret, killing a 1v3 or getting a sick outplay is what makes it fun, i get it, it's way too risky but that's not an excuse for flaming us in normal games... i have couple of smurfs all over the boards including this one, to be honest this even happens in ranked, people are dumb and there is no excuse for it lol, agreeing over something won't take u far in this game... You have to deal with it, u were given the choice to dodge a game in between and wait a few minutes instead, sometimes that 3 lp lost is MUCH better then a 20-40Min game + LP/MMR lost... ALSO DONT BE TOO SERIOUS and DONT FORGET TO HAVE FUN LOL, it's a game after all... Especially normals, they were meant to be there for fun. (Before someone says anything about bot games, they are not included, like why would u play bot games when there is no challenge whatsoever) Also btw u can always play arams ppl tend to troll less in there..
> [{quoted}](name=GalaxyWither,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=f0BL85mM,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-08-03T20:10:08.322+0000) > > Most of us play normal games for fun, u don&#x27;t get ANY BONUSES from winning a normal game, sure you&#x27;d probably get extra 10 IP for that one win however, it does NOT cost your MMR/LP/RANK/PROMO game... In fact most of us play normal games to do what we can&#x27;t do in ranked, like u said chase people, or trying to outplay a 1v2s 1v3s etc, because these are things that are too risky in ranked and could cost us the game, that doesn&#x27;t give anybody the rights to flame us for having fun, because trust me going under turret, killing a 1v3 or getting a sick outplay is what makes it fun, i get it, it&#x27;s way too risky but that&#x27;s not an excuse for flaming us in normal games... i have couple of smurfs all over the boards including this one, to be honest this even happens in ranked, people are dumb and there is no excuse for it lol, agreeing over something won&#x27;t take u far in this game... You have to deal with it, u were given the choice to dodge a game in between and wait a few minutes instead, sometimes that 3 lp lost is MUCH better then a 20-40Min game + LP/MMR lost... ALSO DONT BE TOO SERIOUS and DONT FORGET TO HAVE FUN LOL, it&#x27;s a game after all... Especially normals, they were meant to be there for fun. (Before someone says anything about bot games, they are not included, like why would u play bot games when there is no challenge whatsoever) Also btw u can always play arams ppl tend to troll less in there.. Well, not giving up (Actually trying to win) IS part of the summoner code. So "Ugh It's just a normal game ughhnnn" is actually against the Summoner Code. Which is what he actually was complaining about. He's right. :) Edit: He also ranted about bad decisions that ADCs make but he wasn't talking about reporting them. He just went on to further rant about something else that frustrated him. :)))) I love how a lot of people miss the point simply so that they can talk down on someone... OP was frustrated by people inting or just goffing around just because they didn't want to win anymore. OP was also frustrated by ADCs that make obvious stupid decisions. OP doesn't have to play Ranked to get away from that because Normal and Ranked game MMR are sepperated from eachother. Then again, simply being drunk or high doesn't mean that you should report them, so mentioning that was not necessary. I for example can perform just fine while drunk. However, if they act like total jerks simply because they are drunk or high, yeah, report the hell out of them then. There's a lot of "AHA I don't care, I'm stoned!! Haha" kinda people out there. Those are truly obnoxious and use it as an excuse to be toxic.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=Shiwah,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=ZFdsuX75,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-08-03T21:36:10.281+0000) > > I&#x27;m not necessarily saying you&#x27;re toxic, the system however flagged you as such and as a consequence of your ban, your honour level dropped to 0. But I guess that getting back to 2 wouldn&#x27;t be too hard. Well, it really wouldn't be. I hope that the rewards indeed have to do with honour this season!
crapplesz (EUW)
: couldnt bother reading the whole thing. but, toxicity among other things should be insta-banned or hard punished. if one does not wish to be banned, the one shall not simply be toxic, the end. 1st time being toxic or the 20th, doesnt matter, bad behaviour shall be punished. otherwise, what will stop people from being toxic? themself?, pfffft, yeah right.
> [{quoted}](name=crapplesz,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=ZFdsuX75,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-08-03T21:09:55.744+0000) > > couldnt bother reading the whole thing. > but, toxicity among other things should be insta-banned or hard punished. > if one does not wish to be banned, the one shall not simply be toxic, the end. > 1st time being toxic or the 20th, doesnt matter, bad behaviour shall be punished. > otherwise, what will stop people from being toxic? > themself?, pfffft, yeah right. Well, I have seen a lot of people reform. Sure, a lot of people stay toxic, some even need to get 3 accounts permabanned, but it can happen. Trust me.
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