: How to play a game of League in 2017
5-16 Only applies to to people that plays on a toaster, on your neighbors WIFI, just saying.. Lol has never crashed once for me over 1500 games.
JayceGatsby (EUNE)
: Guide for toxicity free game. Working every time!
I agree. 6/10 things that is said in team chat is totally useless for your teams effectiveness, whereas 3/10 can be communicated by pings. The remaining 1/10 will be lost, but is worth if we can get rid of the toxicity of this game.
: Except chat is not really a major source of toxicity anyway. Look at this person run it down mid 14hours a day in every region pretty much every day https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJTaKk2Bs8mpJOk4sGVzmGA/videos Riot only care about SJWs being offended by chat in a video game(oh no). The real reason people exhibit toxic behaviour: the silent trolls. I tested this myself on another account, fed and trolled games from gold to bronze but never said a thing, pretty much every game somebody had a breaking point which resulted in them flaming me, it was pretty fun getting people punished for being mad at me for trolling(yet they couldnt do anything because i was not negative and was only having a "bad game"). Also of note, the highest winrate teemo in the world(plays on korea) climbs to diamond then picks heimerdinger, places a turret at gromp wall, wards over the wall so turret aggroes gromp and sits in bush afking every game until he drops to bronze so he can climb back up with teemo and get his insane statistic(like 95% winrate in over 200 games while his heimer is 0% in 200 games). He has been doing this for a while as well. Open your eyes and start dealing with real issues riot.
Trolling ≠ being a bad player (in comparison to opponent) ≠ being a toxic player
: Smurfs and new players.
People who smurf on low lvl accounts AND rage at players who obviously are playing on their first accounts are usually sad, pathetic kids, who is stuck in bronze and cant win against other lvl 30s. Its terrible and if Riot wants new players, they should do something about this, because IT IS so much worse for new players now a days, compared to a couple of years ago. I started to play this game as my first moba around when Lulu was released, ie, spring 2012 and as I recall, there was almost no rage on my journey to lvl 30. People played weird champs with weird builds and it was totally OK, and it should be because lvl 1-29 should be a tutorial for the "real" game. But just recently, I convinced two friends to start playing Lol as their first Moba and I sat next to one of them during a couple of games and OMG the rage and toxicity from Smurfs... Its just sad.
Rstonius (EUW)
: "Useless bot lane"
Solution to this problem, and like 99% of all toxicity problems: Just accept the fact that many Lol players are kids, people with anger management issues or just plain stupid. I just played a game when my mid Yasou went like 8/15 during the laning phase, i.e, got himself decently fed but also fed their mid and jungler in the process. At the same time, both myself (top) and bot were playing evenly with little deaths. So when rotations/team fights/roams started, their jungler and mid were so much more powerful than the rest of us and pretty much one shot our adc, and ofc this Yasou would start rage at "this useless bot", with NO understanding that it was his laning phase that put us in this situation in the first place.
: 2017 and still no way to deal with trolls in champion select?
I think Riot made its pretty clear that they DONT consider picking non-meta and unusual champs as illegal. Why would RIOT release a champ that is useless. All champs can play all lanes. Go read Riots article "Reporting a player". There, they list things that are and arent reportable. For instance, they write: "DO NOT REPORT A SUMMONER FOR TACTICAL DISAGREEMENTS",where they give an example of a Swain saying "Nunu, got bot! I wanted you to support! My plans is in ruins!". This example, published by RIOT, makes the situation crystal clear, Its NOT illegal to 1) pick up a non-meta champ AS support, and 2) in-game doing something else than supporting according to the typical meta way to play this game. I know, its annoying when someone is "trying out" weird stuff in ranked, but I guess Meta is not the only way to play this, and honestly, at low-elo, meta isnt even always the best way to play it.
Téglagyár (EUNE)
: There is absolutely no reason for Riot not to implement /remake to ARAM
Never seen anyone AFK because they got a bad champion, because those kids who doesn't appropriate the "random", nor the casual factor in this game mode and only want to play OP champs, they dodge in champ selection instead. Actually, rage quitting is also quite uncommon in ARAM, but there is ofc the problem of unintentional DCs, just like in any online games.
Aonivar (EUW)
: You may have a good connection because you 'pay for it', that doesn't mean it's perfect. Even the best internet providers still have service-clauses that allow them a couple of % downtime, if only for service. And obviously Riot can't 'demand' that ranked players have the best internet connection out there. Sure, it's your responsibility and Riot can demand a certain standard, but this is not the only thing that can cause players to disconnect. There are also things like power-outages, emergencies, family suddenly coming over unanounced, silly mistakes, Windows doing weird stuff. To give an example, I was once playing LoL and by a complete accident (it only happened once in many games of LoL), I hit the off-switch of the box that contains all my plugs. My computer switches off, takes 10 minutes before I'm finally back into the game. By then we had lost too much. And that's the problem, when you build in a tolerance (let's say you're allowed to dc 1 in 100 games due to connection problems), you then have to take into account all those other factors too, because they are independent. Leaving 1 in 100 games because of power outages, leaving 1 in 100 games because Windows decided to restart the computer. 1 in 100 games because an emergency, etc. But then what if, by sheer bad luck, multiple of those things occur in the same week or something just happens twice? At some point there is one unlucky sod that will suffer from power failure, has family visiting unanounced the next day and his internet stops working the day after that. Does he deserve to be punished for his bad luck? You have to build in a certain tolerance. You may feel that tolerance is too forgiving, Riot obviously doesn't feel that way. And in the end I guess they feel it's better to let a few people that rage-quit go unpunished than to unjustly punish a few people that are extremely unlucky.
Haha this discussion.... I started this long thread by saying pretty much what you just wrote, i.e that Its kinda obvious that Riot cant harshly punish DCers, leavers etc because so many would be affected and eventually the player number would decrease whereas obviously people keep playing game after game EVEN if there are alot of leavers and quitters. This is just an unnecessary side discussion because someone was wondering how I, personnel would have wanted it, and I would have prefixed that Ranked game mode was considered a little bit more serious than the other game modes.
: > I guess I would have preferred if it was a close to zero tolerance for both DCs, toxicity and Rage quits in Ranked game mode So, just an example, you would be fine with being permabanned for losing your connection twice because your ISP has unexpected problems, right? Because that's what you are saying here. > only should be played if you know you have a stable connection and can handle a loss. Absolutely no one has a stable connection. ISP problem, hardware or software malfuntion, personal emergencies or a power out can happen to anyone at any time. > and yes, I know that you CAN be so unlucky that your computer breaks down, or the power goes out. Thats why i wrote "close to zero tolerance" Yeah...and if don't want to be punished for that you basically have a system that works EXACTLY like Riots system already does. What you are suggesting here is identical to what Riot is doing.
> [{quoted}](name=Humpelstilzche,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=gqjfPFKk,comment-id=0002000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-11T18:39:11.110+0000) > > So, just an example, you would be fine with being permabanned for losing your connection twice because your ISP has unexpected problems, right? > Because that's what you are saying here. Nope, thats not what im saying. I never said one DC would lead to a permabann. Those are your words. I think a couple of days of ban from ranked, and only ranked would suffice, and the next time a week, the third time a month and so forth. > Absolutely no one has a stable connection. ISP problem, hardware or software malfuntion, personal emergencies or a power out can happen to anyone at any time. Nope, I have a stable connection, because I actually pay for a good one, and not leeching from a free-for-all WiFI through five floors of concrete. The only reasons I ever DC (which has happened 2 max 3 times in 2000 games) was because i had to restart my router, which lead to 2 mins of DC, and one time when my power supply broke down, which ofc lead to me being unable to reconnect. You and I maybe just have a different attitude about that, but to me, its just common decency to actually come with the right equipment to a game. Playing with a toaster on a sh***y wifi link with 250 ping and 2-3 dcs per game is like coming to a football game with only one shoe, a broken ankle and the shirt on your legs and your shorts on your head. It ruins the fun for everyone, both the winner and losers. > Yeah...and if don't want to be punished for that you basically have a system that works EXACTLY like Riots system already does. What you are suggesting here is identical to what Riot is doing. Well, my point is that the punishment for leaving, mainly a ranked game, for whatever reason should be so severe that stops ppl from doing it, which it isnt right now, since there at least is a quitter in 1/4 games. Anyways, this discussion is pointless. You obviously think the way Riot handles rage quitting/DCs/leaving is fine, whereas I would have preferred it to be a little more strict, since I think it ruins the game totally.
: How would you handle it if you were in charge?
I guess I would have preferred if it was a close to zero tolerance for both DCs, toxicity and Rage quits in Ranked game mode, and ofc being crystal clear that ranked is a serious game mode, that only should be played if you know you have a stable connection and can handle a loss. (and yes, I know that you CAN be so unlucky that your computer breaks down, or the power goes out. Thats why i wrote "close to zero tolerance")
: The Leaverbuster is rather simple. It basically just "counts" how long you are afk/idle. So the only thing that matters is how long you are afk. Once you exceed a certain threshold, the Leaverbuster starts punishing you. > Hopefully, PB differentiates between someone who manually quits or shut down the LoL software, i.e. rage quitting, and those who actually get a unfortunate internet crash. Nope. First of all everyone can just fake a crash by simply pulling the plug. If that would save you from punishment, absolutely no one would get a punishment for leaving because everyone could just pretend that that is was caused by technical problems. Secondly the Leaverbuster is pretty tolerant. If you have the usual unpreventable amount of technical problems, you are still far away from getting punished. Like I said before, you have to exceed a certain threshold. Unpreventable technical problems are not enough for that. The only way to exceed this threshold is to either leave intentionally or to ignore ongoing technical problems and playing anyway.
Ok, I see. Well, what we all just have to accept is that Riot care more about keeping the player numbers up, rather than caring about how playable the game is. They know that people will keep playing, even if there is a lot of rage and leavers, but if they start to bann all toxic kids out there who cant control their anger, they would immediately lose 50% of the community =)
: There were leaving bans back in season 2 for 3+ days. But now ? There is Leave Buster, which is even worse than daily bans. So reporting for AFK is useless if he leaves the game (if it worked, I would be banned at least 30 times x) ). Different thing is staying at the fountain, chatting, sometimes going into the fights just to not trigger the LB (but even that got improved and it still triggers it). There, I think, it is Negative Attitude, which will potentionally lead into some harsh punishments.
Ah ok then I see, ty. Wonder how LB handles people who rage quits, goes for a quick fapp and some facebook for 20-30 mins while cooling down and then restarts the Lol-client, sees that the game actually isnt over, reconnects and participates the last 5 minutes in a game that was lost the second he left. Hopefully, PB differentiates between someone who manually quits or shut down the LoL software, i.e. rage quitting, and those who actually get a unfortunate internet crash.
Rioter Comments
SidiIsMeLOL (EUNE)
: Xayah
I honestly think Riot always release new champ a tad OP, and then waits a while before nerfing them to a more reasonable state. Reason why? To hype the champ and thus, increase sales. Think about it; if the newly released champ turns out to be real bad, who would buy it?
: Are Towers still too weak?
Well, since most people in silver and above pretty much can CS as well under a tower as in lane, a more powerful tower would just be so wrong. In terms of damage, a tower will do more dmg than a lane partner so I dont think we should see a tower as a safe zone, but as a stationary lane partner. So standing under your tower in a solo lane can be seen as standing 1v2, and its totally reasonable that you could go 1v2 and come out alive with a kill IF the one of them for instance has low health and you are a burst dmg champ. I think the towers fills its purpose perfectly, i.e giving you a safe zone early game, but than have less and less impact as the game progresses.
Adama (EUW)
: ''dont you know that you have a bad ping already before you decide to play a game of LoL?'' Answer: No. Dumb question. I have a wired connection with a stable 16ms but in some games it is 19ms for some reason. And SOMETIMES, I play a game and I suddenly start disconnecting and get 2k ping spikes whole match.
Ok. let me rephrase: Dont you know that you have a bad internet connection that can make your ping jump from stable 20-40 ms to 400 ms several times in the same game before you decide to play a game of LoL?
Teejoon (EUW)
: You can't possibly know how what your ping will be in 5min from now. Your game packages might pass a server that gets under heavy load in 5min. The might be hardware failures making your game package having to do a different route causing delays. A server on the route you took might be taken out for maintenance forcing you to take another. Someone might accidently cut a cable somewhere forcing packages to take another route or maybe they cut the cable between your house and your ISP so that you or anyone near you don't have any internet at all. There is so much that can happen between a player and a server making random lag spikes hard to not happen. And the further away you are from the server the more could happen.
Ok fair enough, maybe Im just living in a country with an extremely stable connection, because like I said, my ping is constantly 29 ms. Also, Im not really talking about lag spikes etc, Im talking about the fairly large amount of players that constantly have very bad ping the entire game and then act all surprised about it, blaming their bad performance on their ping. I just cant understand why you would keep playing LoL, game after game, and still think its a pleasant gaming experience if you live in an area with shaky internet.
Rioter Comments
: Normal games are just not fun anymore because of Matchmaking...
I just lokinged you real fast and looked at your last 10 normal games. The bold is your team, d, p, g, s, b and u is diamond, plat, gold, silver, bronze and unranked. DIdnt look too unfair if you ask me =) **p s s p s** g s s g g **s g s b s** s g g s s **u s s g s** d s s p g **u s g u s** s g s s s **p g p s p** p d d s u **s p s p s** s g g g p **p s p g s** g g d g b **s p s g s** s g u s p **u u s s s** s u s b b **g p s s g** s g s s p
Koerty (EUW)
: Don't worry riot will do absolutly NOTHING for you, they totally don't care about people acting like assholes, if they don't trashtalk, they will never get in trouble. Just had a ranked game where 3 people decided to pick jungle no matter what, when I was the one filled jungler. Indeed we lost, we couldn't farm, we couldn't gank, this game was just a huge mess. Fun in this game = none Interest in this game = none Worst thing is riot don't care, this guys will never get any problem for doing this. But if they piss me off enough for me to call them "piece of shit" or anything like that (which they are), then I AM going to get banned ? Wtf is that logic riot
Sadly but understandably, Riots main priority is to make money, as any game companies. What type of player is most prone to rage, troll, and AFK? Impulsive, immature game addict kids. What type of player is most prone to buy RP for skins and other purchases? Impulsive, immature game addict kids. Bottom line is, despite all the complains about a trolling and flaming community, LoL is not losing players and Riot wont implement measures that would actually decrease the income, just to make the gaming experience more pleasant.
: > [{quoted}](name=Babbediboopi,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=qqwgXgoE,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-04-10T14:12:53.071+0000) > > Why do you believe that "noobs", "afkers" and "trolls" have a higher chance of getting randomly sorted into** your** team and not your enemy team? Why do all players who feel they are stuck in low elo believe that? In the short run, you might be a little bit unlucky but IF you truly are better than your current league thus deserving of a promotion, you WILL win more games than you lose in the long run. > > I bet there is some other dude who complains to his friends how he is stuck in bronze 3 due to "this BubbleButterz" who "trolled and fed the entire game". I dont want to be rude, and I dont say that stats says everything, but judging on your ranked stats, its actually more likely that he is right, since you average 2/10 w low CS in your games. Here's the thing, I have a low win rate in Ranked atm due to me doing it months ago when I wasn't any good. I was a terrible player with terrible CS and lane positioning. I've improved since then, and have been playing a lot better since. only 1 of my ranked games I played terrible and ended up feeding mid lane due to hacing a trolling jungler, and I was ganked 4 times in the space of 6 minutes (My fault there because my positioning was absolutely terrible to say I was ganked that much, I should have always been prepared for it). But I've now played 5 ranked games and won 2 of them, and 4 out of 5 of them I had out CS'd most of the people playing that match, and finished on a positive K/D and had been winning either my lane or ganking properly as a jungler. I understand that it's a complete grind to get up into higher ranks, but I just feel frustrated that I'm losing games due to my terrible end game as everywhere else has been fed, making it almost impossible for me not to die within seconds. When I first started playing ranked (About 5-6 months ago at least, that's where I was positioned into bronze 3) I was a terrible player who couldn't do anything right. So I've spent the past few months learning to properly CS, lane control, positioning, counter ganking if I'm a jungler, pinging properly and understanding pings. I've done a lot when it comes to improving, and feel like I have improved quite a lot as I'm getting a lot more S and A ranks, rather than my C-D ranks I used to get. But I feel my rank is letting me down, because I constantly get called a noob due to being in bronze 3, and is why I'm trying to boost my rank up. I'm gunna keep trying and keep getting better at it, and hopefully one day I may see a silver badge on my profile lol.
Oki maybe things will turn around for you then. The reason why I question your logic is because I was in your spot when I started to play ranked in season 3. I couldnt for my life get out of silver 1 and was jojo-ing between silver 1 and silver 2 for season 3-4. Then I just took a deep look at myself and my actual skills and come to realize two things: 1) I only played "easy" champs like Garen (was a total top bully s3-4 but not so good late), Morgana mid (so easy to just safe farm the enitre lane phase) and MF adc etc. So even if I slightly or even clearly won the lane, it honestly didnt mean that much since I fell off late game and coudlnt carry with the lead I got in lane. So you cannot really say anything about your lanephase without taking the whole picture into consideration, like the "carry"-ability of your champ etc. 2) I didnt in any way dominate most of my games. Out of 10 games, I maybe sucked in 2, crushed in 3 and played average compared to my opponents and teammates in 5. This is NOT a clear case of someone deserving to be promoted. With some luck, I might have, but you cannot ignore the fact that I in some way only showed that I was actually better than my silver1-competitors in 3/10 games. What Im trying to say is that many players have the wrong idea about their own skill level and what rank they deserve (including myself a while ago). People who play evenly in most games are actually exactly where they belong. To advance through the leagues, you must be **BETTER** than your competitors in most of your games, in your current league.
: Always going to be stuck in Bronze 3 :(
Why do you believe that "noobs", "afkers" and "trolls" have a higher chance of getting randomly sorted into** your** team and not your enemy team? Why do all players who feel they are stuck in low elo believe that? In the short run, you might be a little bit unlucky but IF you truly are better than your current league thus deserving of a promotion, you WILL win more games than you lose in the long run. I bet there is some other dude who complains to his friends how he is stuck in bronze 3 due to "this BubbleButterz" who "trolled and fed the entire game". I dont want to be rude, and I dont say that stats says everything, but judging on your ranked stats, its actually more likely that he is right, since you average 2/10 w low CS in your games.
PepijndM (EUW)
: I think you underestimate how difficult it is to climb out of bronze... LoL is, after all, a team game. I've seen a video about an LCK support being placed in bronze, and it took him really long before he managed to climb out of it. I have no idea what the main of the poster is, but to anyone who can't play 200+ games of ranked a year, but rather +- 30, chances are they stay at the level they were placed, no matter how good or bad they were. Believe, on my other account I was ranked S2, while I'm really really bad at league (ARAM main). But somehow I got carried by random dudes to S2. Anything below gold is so random that you really have to play a lot of games before you get a pattern...
I dont agree from my own experiences. My way through bronze went rather smooth and I even mained support back then. Sometimes, I feel that people who complain about elo-hell have a faulty idea what advancing through the ranks requires. If you are at Bronze 1, your total skills, both when it comes to mechanics AND game sense/knowledge of the game, must be** BETTER** than Bronze 1 to actually advance. If your skills are just slightly better, your advancement will take a very long time, since you only will win slightly more than half your games. If your skills are way better, your advancement will go very fast. Many of the players who feel they are "stuck" are really exactly were they belong, because these players play **evenly** with their lane opponent in most of their games, and then they see someone in their team feed and feel that they are **"held back by their team"**. But if you play only evenly in your lane most of the games in Bronze 1 for instance, you do belong in Bronze 1. On the other hand, if you crush your lane and get fed before lane phase is over most of the games, nothing will stop you from solo carrying the majority of games thus make you advance fast. But I agree, its a little bit harder to main support and advance through low elo, simply because support use their influence and gold on stuff that supposedly will help your ADC/team, but if your teammates are too bad to use this help, this effort will be lost. But if you truly have mid silver to gold skills and play in bronze as support, you would have no problems picking a supp like Zyra, Lulu, Karma, Lux or Morgana and just dominate the game as carry.
: Why have rules at all if you don't enforce them?
Intentional feeding is not that common as you think. Very few people feed intentionally as in walking up to the enemies and just stand there and let them kill them. Its almost always a case of someone getting a bad lane matchup, skill-wise, champ counter-wise, jungle pressure-wise and snowballing-wise. Playing recklessly, like trying to all in someone with a 3000 gold advantage and 2 levels on you is not even **_really _ ** intentional feeding, its just unskilled. Rage quitting is something else though. The worst thing that I know is the kind of players that pick a high risk high reward champ like Yasou, going 0/8 before the first tower falls, casts a surrender vote at 20.00 and then rage quit if people vote No. I dont understand why RIOT tolerates this. AFKing destroys this game.
: Can you stop assuming that calling lower ELO players trash is ok because you're higher???
To my experience, people rarely flame you because of your rank. I peaked at mid plat, but havent played ranked in a long time because job and life got in the way so im unranked now but my normal elo is still plat-gold and I dont think anyone has said a thing about that in normal. I dont mean to be rude but Im guessing you get flamed because of your skills and things you do in-game. **That is not OK, flaming is always flaming regardless of reason why**, but I seriously doubt it has do to with your rank per se. Once again, im not saying this to be insulting, but I see that you play ranked actively and are still at a bronze level. That means that you probably will have inferior game sense and mechanics than the average gold player so Im just saying that the flaming probably is based on your skills, and not your rank. But ofc, its always wrong to flame, especially in normal.. just mute them and know you are the better man IRL, and not some raging kid ;)
Zantenn (EUW)
: I answered a question of how he had access to a password and only you to look ... I'm getting tired of saying that my account is not SHARED and never was and that was an isolated case. I understand and agree that the security of my account is my responsibility but I had no way of knowing that he used my account ... If I knew the first thing I would do was change the password. And yes, he admitted that he used my account
Ok, but I still think your case is weak. Its unfortunate for you and I understand its annoying but bottom line is that **someone** committed offenses against the LoL community so severe that Riot deemed it worthy of a permaban. If this someone was you, or if it was your step-brother who got access to your account because of you shared your passwords with him doesn't really matter because someone must still be hold responsible for the offenses. Anyways, my opinion doesnt matter; it all up to Riot but IF Riot judge this case in favor of you, they will define the case-law for similar cases, where noone should be hold responsible if they say that someone elses did it from their account, which would be total chaos. But I understand how frustrating it must feel, so good luck.
Zantenn (EUW)
: I have to disagree with you ... There are several and several cases of accounts that were used without the authorization of the owner and took a permaban and the account returned to the owner ... This is more common than you think, I left one Link in the comments on a case that happened on the BR server very similar to mine. As I said, there was no account sharing ... Even though this is an isolated case, this had never happened to me. And I do not think it's fair that my account was banned for something I did not do, someone else used my Account and did shit there regardless of being my brother or anyone else would be totally prudent and fair I receive the account Like I said, I never let him use my account, but since he's a kid and I was in Sao Paulo he thought nothing would happen. You can believe it or not but understand my situation, I just want to play in my account again
Still, you havent given a plausible explanation exactly how your step brother got access to your account. You just say that you managed to "discover" it was him and that he "somehow" got access to your account, and then you leave it at that. First of all; how did you even found out it was him? Did he admit it? Second of all; how did he do it?Is he a master hacker? Oh wait, he was a 13 year old "kid" (probably average age for LoL players..). Do you see the problem here? LoL client doesnt have autofilling so either he hacked you OR you gave him your password = account sharing. Because yes, if you give someone your password but tell him "do not use this account", its still account sharing if he uses it without your knowledge. In the end, we are all responsible to keep our accounts secure, and like I said before, its not **YOU** who have been banned, its the account that is banned because of bann-able stuff that came out from account, which seems fair to me. But who knows, maybe Riot takes pity
Zantenn (EUW)
: Ban Permanent Unfair
Honestly, you have NO case here what so ever. I am guessing that your account got banned because of things your brother did when playing on your account, because there is no chance that RIOT could have spotted account sharing if he kept playing from your house in Fortaleza when you were at SP and didnt play from there. Remember; Its not** you** nor your **step brother ** who got banned, its the account. And if your step brother did bann-able things from that account, its 100% fair and correct that they bann that account. Also, I dont think you are being totally honest what happened here. You say that you found out it was your step brother, and you even know that he panicked and transferred your account when he got banned, yet you cant explain how he found out your password in the first place, which logically would be the first thing you forced out of him.... Im sorry, but its more likely you allowed him to play while you had your break from LoL, and that he raged like crazy while you were gone ;)
: A new server nearby GCC maybe ?
Whats wrong with the Turkey server?
: Riot, please fix normal game matchmaking
Nah, the system is not "completely broken" only because you get a mismatched game now and then. You have two separate MMRs; ranked and normal (and maybe also ARAM?) and even if this occasionally will result in mismatches like this, its better than the alternative to having one single MMR. Because when you play ranked, you usually play with your best champs, in your best roles, with your most tryhard and competitive mindset. When you are playing normal, you usually want to try new champs, practice new roles or just play more casually for fun. If we view MMR as a quantification of your skill level, your Ranked MMR **should** be separated from your normal MMR. Also, your rank is just a label and not a absolute, definite measure of skills. I got to low plat by just playing Lulu support and Varus ADC, but my top (I only know Mundo and Garen) is at a silver level MAX ;) This particular game was ofc an extreme case of a mismatch, and probably a premade plat/diamond team that doesnt play normal that often or just very early in the season, but I dont think this is a huge problem since most games are quite balanced.
Tred (EUNE)
: How can i report someone?
Stuff like "easy", "u bad", "why?" "noob", "stfu" will NEVER be a punishable comments. Racism, homophobia, sexism and very bad words, like spamming the C word 10 times, WILL usually get you punished. Whats more interesting is your reaction to it, i.e., that you "a shitload" of times find yourself in a situation where you get harassed even though you are innocent as a little lamb, and then get so mad about it that you feel the need to mail Riot.. Hrmm something tells me that you arnt that innocent as you think.
Ánpanyú (EUNE)
: How to handle this?
Step 1) Play with a premade friend, which you already are doing. This will significantly reduce the chance of getting teamed up with a troll. Step 2) Instamute them and just keep on playing as good as you can if you see that they are full of ****. Dont feed the trolls etc, most trolls find no joy in trolling a whole ranked game if everyone just ignores them. But most importantly: Step 3) Keep in mind and find at least some consolation in the fact that there will be an equally big chance that your enemy team will have a troll. Next time you maybe win your promo because of a trolling enemy. We are like 100 million people playing this game, form all parts of the world and all ages, and some of them WILL be jerks, or just simply immature because of age etc. Its also impossible for riot to define a punishable offense that is based on a subjective idea how to play this game.
Doz (EUW)
: Why is it okay for players to report you for playing the game?
When a kid says "reported" about you, it literally means "i dont approve of the things you just did buuhuu *cry*". Just ignore and if you want, mute them. Most of the vital communication in this game is not happening through team chat, but in pings anyway. Ive never been punished EVER in my 2000 games but someone says "reported" to me at least in 1/3 games.. Just ignore
: So what's your opinion? :/
When you average 30 comments in each game and like 80% of them are either blame/rage/negativity, well, yes one could argue for a ban. Lets be honest here; 90% of the communication needed for your effectiveness in the game can be done through pings. The usage of the team chat COULD be used as a motivation tool, ie, to spread positive reinforcement in your team, yet you choose to almost exclusively use it to really make sure that your teammates understand how bad they are and how good you are. Just wait and think a second before pressing enter in-game next time and you'll be fine.
Sianon (EUNE)
: If you watch sports they never condecend. They alwas point out in what aspects was the game difficult. Even if it's a stomp. I believe the fine line is between saying "I was good." and you "you suck." Ez translates to "you suck". The sole reason people type ez is to be insulting. It's the same as calling people "noobs".
Im not saying that I think people **should** say "ez" in any way, all I say is that saying "easy" is not that big of a deal and really not worthy of **reports and punishment**. I honestly think that 90% of the reason why people even bother is because they, at the moment of defeat, can be very sensitive and grumpy or simply Sore losers. I didnt say athletes usually condescend, I said they wouldnt be punished if they said that a game was easy. YOU translate one single word "ez" to "you suck" but that can be done to "gg", "haha", "worth" too. Saying "so lucky" after getting killed in a 1v1 duel CAN translate to "im much better than you but you got lucky, i.e you suck in comparison to my skills". So you see, If we start interpret single, cheeky words so they become much, much worse insults, then anything can fall under unsportsmanlike conduct. Once again, Im not encouraging bad sportsmanship or rudeness, all im saying is that "ez" isnt such a grave offence that its worth punishments.
Buttcramp (EUNE)
: To everyone saying "ez" or "easy"
"Unsportmanlike conduct", or whatever rule this falls under, is ofc a very arbitrary term, and saying "eZ" is just a very very minor offence. Whats next? Saying gg if your lane opponent had a bad game CAN be considered an equally grave offence of "Unsportmanlike conduct". Also, letting minions finish off the nexus instead of ending the game asap, flashing, teleportering or entering enemies healing platform just before the nexus explodes can be seen as minor "wink" of "Unsportmanlike conduct". And what about spamming dance or taunt? Compare this to the all other sports. Will an athlete of any given sport be punished for saying a game was easy? NO, and thats your answer if this is a report-worthy offence. Actually this is just ridiculous. If you are that sensitive and easily offended, just insta-mute your entire enemy team as soon as the game starts. 99.9% of the things said in the All-channel is not necessary for the game so you wont miss anything.
Leptyx (EUW)
: Hello forums, I main support and my queue times are between 0 and 4 seconds
The problem isnt the waiting time in queue. The problem is the 1-3 dodges or forgotten bans/picks that follows when you find a match.
duckarp (EUNE)
: That's somewhat understandable, but it has an easy fix (though not really ideal) - mute them and report afterwards for harassment if it's so severe. Either way, it's best to avoid arguing with others at all, no matter if they're premade or not. It doesn't help anything and just makes people tilt, usually resulting in a loss.
Yupp, personally I dont understand why people are focusing so much on rage and toxicity when its so easy to just insta-mute those players. 90% of the communication that actually impact the game can be done with pings anyways. The only problem I have is when I play support and the ADC blames me for everything or goes bananas if I take a couple of CS. How can you do everything to make someone better if they gives u sh*t in return? But I guess you just have be the bigger man.
: League of Legends: The Ultimatum to toxicity, patch 6.6
Nah its not "really easy" to get punished. Ive played 1000+ games and I have ONLY been chat restricted once, and that time I deserved it because I joked about Muslims etc which ofc was seen as racism etc. If you just act like a normal person would face to face to other person, stranger or friend, you wont get punished.
duckarp (EUNE)
: So when you play with your friends, you bully others? Good to know. When it comes to mature people without mental problems, it usually works the opposite way.
Yes thats true BUT the problem is that many of the lol players are like 12-15 i.e. NOT mature people and its a known fact that computer gaming appeals to people with different kinds of mental anger problems, aspergers, ADHD etc. To my experience, premades doesnt really rage more BUT if one of them gets into an argument with you, the rest will very often join in, defending their premade friend
Azure9861 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Babbediboopi,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=vJH59LiZ,comment-id=000700000000,timestamp=2016-03-31T18:43:15.576+0000) > > Thats your opinion but not come crying if that enemy minion decides to take a stroll down the river instead of staying in the lane, leaving you exactly a minions gold worth short for that fat item you've been saving for, forcing you to wait several seconds, during which the enemy team just manages to rush Baron and GG. You can STILL be reported whilst in minion form.
Can they also spam /dance /taunt /joke/laugh?
Azure9861 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Babbediboopi,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=vJH59LiZ,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2016-03-31T18:31:29.668+0000) > > Too much impact of the game. Let them be the shop keeper, the dragon in the background of top lane or the frogs along the river (but then they mustn't be allowed to walk into bushes, i.e. give away player positions =) A guy being a minion for 2 minutes?!?!?! OMG SUCH IMPACT!
Thats your opinion but dont come crying if that enemy minion decides to take a stroll down the river instead of staying in the lane, leaving you exactly a minions gold worth short for that fat item you've been saving for, forcing you to wait several seconds, during which the enemy team just manages to rush Baron and GG.
: > [{quoted}](name=Babbediboopi,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=yh7spVZs,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2016-03-31T18:28:40.152+0000) > > I dont even think asking someone to be reported is a punishable offence per se. I think it all has to do with how you do it. If you spam really aggressively, I guess it can fall under the "negative attitude" or "verbal abuse" but if you just say for instance "plz report this rage quiter who ruined the game and wasted everybodies time, so he hopefully will learn his lesson", I dont think its an offence. ever since this automated system has rolled out ive seen a number of bans where the guy was hardly toxic at all, or wasnt toxic at all, but asked for ppl to report someone and gets a chat restriction or ban.
Are you sure it was because of the report request? I got chat restricted for like 50 games for saying "Women from XXXX have hairy armpits" =(
Azure9861 (EUW)
: Allow banned players to be minions.
Too much impact of the game. Let them be the shop keeper, the dragon in the background of top lane or the frogs along the river (but then they mustn't be allowed to walk into bushes, i.e. give away player positions =)
: riot, please add a new tip to the loading screen.
I dont even think asking someone to be reported is a punishable offence per se. I think it all has to do with how you do it. If you spam really aggressively, I guess it can fall under the "negative attitude" or "verbal abuse" but if you just say for instance "plz report this rage quiter who ruined the game and wasted everybodies time, so he hopefully will learn his lesson", I dont think its an offence.
: Feeding vs Bad Game
Saw the same thing in a game (only normal) when my team's mid was playing that new dragon champ Sol or whatever his name is. Obviously he couldn't have had much experience with a brand new champ and his last pick lane opponent picked Leblanc. That must be his biggest counter, being able to dash in and out of his stars, inflicting TONS OF DAMAGE in quick bursts. As expected he lost his lane hard, and after this 22 min game, he had 0/9/0 110 cs and Leblanc 12/0/2 171 cs. Anyways. I watched several of his deaths and there was literally nothing he could have done, except standing between his towers doing nothing. I dont know if Im right but I think RIOT current trend when it comes to champion design is to make them OP in their niche, but REALLY vulnerable outside it. So sometimes feeding is so hard to avoid and when the snowball starts to roll......... One thing that I think EVERYONE should be mindful of before start crying about feeding teammates is that we have no idea how the skills are distributed among the enemy team. Who knows, maybe your feeding team mate is facing a smurfing Bjergsen in disguise while you face a wooden 5, playing on his high elo friends account.
FrankerX (EUW)
: Im not a racist because i cant tell what language you speak
: AFK in ranked - a solution?
I dont think Riot ever will implement anything that in some way manipulates the RP given or lost because of AFK, simply because it would mess up the balance of promotions and demotions in each division. Its usually in the team that at least appears to be losing that rage quits will occur . Im not saying they will lose 100% but most rage quits happens when someone feels his team is so bad that its impossible to win, which also shows a very bad attitude so even if he would have stayed, he would probably have played badly anyways. My point is that few players rage quit if your team clearly is ahead and even fewer players rage quit if your team is ahead + someone in your team is hard carrying, right? Combine this with the huge number of games it happens, I bet its happens in at least 2/5 games. So If the "presumably" losing side would get reduced LP loss, or even loss prevented as you suggests in SO many games, it would result in a lower rate of drop outs from each division, almost like a "buffer" that keeps players to bad for the division around for a longer time. Look at it this way instead: 1) If you are a better player than your current division, i.e on your way to be promoted, **your statistical chance of having a team member rage quiting is LOWER than the chance that your enemy team will have a rage quiter **, simply because you carry more games than you get crushed. Result = You benefit from rage quiters. 2) if you are an average player in your current division, i.e you are right were you belong, **you will have an equal chance of winning and losing games because of rage quiters**. Result = Rage quiting will be annoying but wont either work to your advantage or disadvantage in the long run. 3) If you are a worse player than your current division, i.e you should be demoted, **your statistical chance of having a team member rage quiting is HIGHER than the chance that your enemy team will have a rage quiter **, simply because you get owned more games than you pwn, i.e. you are the reason for the rage quiting. Result = Your departure from the division to high for you in the first place will be faster. What we actually can do is to become better at reporting those AFKers. In most games, 2-3 of the players from the team that just lost because of afk will leave the post-game chat as fast as they can without reporting the AFK. The team that just won the game sometimes doesnt report them because it didnt annoy them or better yet, they won the game because of it. If every rage quiter would get 9x reports after the game, I really think the number of rage quiters would decrease.
mortwin12 (EUW)
: 4 premade people dare to report me because they want a certain lane.
Premade reports counts as one and you will only get punished (to my knowledge) for 1) AFK 2) Flame and verbal abuse 3) Griefing/assisting enemy team IF they also can see that you for instance died several times with little time in between etc The rest of the reports are quite useless and never leads to anything
SagittarO (EUW)
: Why aram is "This is ARAM"
I only see light toxicity in ARAM like 1 game out of 10 and it usually comes from players like you(not you specifically ofc) imao, ie. players who ONLY play ARAM and take it as serious as the LCS finals.
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