jÖhNyP (EUNE)
: BOTS
Determining exclusively on the summoner name whether the account is a bot is not valid. Keep in mind that if an account has been inactive for more than half a year, their summoner name will become available for anyone to claim. If an account has had its summoner name taken, they will get a random generated new summoner name, for example "IS301c5027c48a04" How would you make a program/bot that can calculate/feel that the game is lost? I'm pretty sure a summoner going afk is proof that it is NOT a bot. Why would a bot walk around for no reason? Players do it because they're bored. I've played LoL for 8 years and I've probably seen 3-5 bots in total. You could tell, because they dodged skillshots like a superhuman. No offense, but given you seem to be a relative new player (lvl 16 eune), keep it cool. I know games until you're lvl 30 can be frustrating, with smurfs all over the place. I'd imagine people give less flyings about the game outcome when it's just their secondary account. In response to your original question, or whatever your point with this thread is: Is botting allowed now? No, definitely not.
Rios160 (EUNE)
: I got banned for inting.
> [{quoted}](name=Rios160,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=879xgmwE,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-08-08T16:01:26.890+0000) > > I got banned for inting. You clearly express that you don't believe you deserved your 14-day ban. Can you please provide a source of some sort of your reason for getting banned? So we can conclude from something other than empty words. You seem to refer to one specific game that went really really bad for all of you. However, I don't believe, you get a 14-day ban for just one game.
jÖhNyP (EUNE)
: BOTS
> [{quoted}](name=jÖhNyP,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=pGnfb60X,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-08-07T21:48:53.302+0000) > > i just made a super quick research > took me less than a minute to find 20 bots Curious what you did here?
Baden (EUW)
: Intentionally feeding/suiciding in ARAM
I just found the follow-up ticket I did back then, to the one I posted for you guys. This hurts: https://i.imgur.com/jsTZSTN.png So apparently another Rioter approves the other Rioter and explains quite precisely that this is indeed intentionally feeding and that these players definitely should get reported.
: You've clearly never seen an intentional feeder. If you're a janna with 8000 gold and you don't go to die you're causing the game to be lost as much as the enemy. Logic.
> [{quoted}](name=Honored 4 Sexy,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=E54j9Q7r,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-08-06T06:32:51.946+0000) > > You've clearly never seen an intentional feeder. > If you're a janna with 8000 gold and you don't go to die you're causing the game to be lost as much as the enemy. > Logic. I think you understood me. My post is about how we all consider intentional feeders differently compared to what Riot apparently does. Us, the players, seem to all agree: Suiciding for the better is okay, and staying alive as Janna 8k gold is making your team lose. But as long as Riot defines _"voluntarily running into the enemy team with the intention of getting killed is basically intentionally feeding"_ even without exceptions such as having a massive amount of gold on you, we will have to respect these rules. > [{quoted}](name=Pxerkza,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=E54j9Q7r,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-08-06T07:51:51.552+0000) > > inting is only bannable if done repeatedly From where do you have this?
: > Feeding is the act of being killed **repeatedly**, and thereby assisting the enemy team. Intentionally dying **once** isn't feeding, but regardless, there's an art to doing that in aram To me there's 4 ways to do it : - The sneaky ravioli : you try to sneak past the enemy team and get tower aggro when ur low hp - I'm an idiot : poking them while ur minions are pushing under their tower to get tower aggro - Basically trynda but without his R : you go in like a crazy madman and try to do as much damage as you can before dying - Man I'm so tanky : diving the enemy tower and tanking it for a long time to either try to get the tower or a kill or two Just letting them kill you for free is never the best option since there's always something better you can do Also I think the response you got from the riot support isn't representative of riot or the community's views, simply saying they had to consider their position when replying to that question since they are riot employees but they're not really high up the ladder either, so they can't really afford to give you their own opinion on the matter and pass it as "riot's perspective" so more often than not they'll stay strictly with what they're allowed to say As far as I know, no one has ever been banned for doing that and it's unlikely to change as long as you're playing to win
> [{quoted}](name=Call me Teddy,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=E54j9Q7r,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-06T00:49:59.230+0000) > > Intentionally dying **once** isn't feeding, but regardless, there's an art to doing that in aram > > To me there's 4 ways to do it : > > - The sneaky ravioli : you try to sneak past the enemy team and get tower aggro when ur low hp > - I'm an idiot : poking them while ur minions are pushing under their tower to get tower aggro > - Basically trynda but without his R : you go in like a crazy madman and try to do as much damage as you can before dying > - Man I'm so tanky : diving the enemy tower and tanking it for a long time to either try to get the tower or a kill or two > > Just letting them kill you for free is never the best option since there's always something better you can do > > Also I think the response you got from the riot support isn't representative of riot or the community's views, simply saying they had to consider their position when replying to that question since they are riot employees but they're not really high up the ladder either, so they can't really afford to give you their own opinion on the matter and pass it as "riot's perspective" so more often than not they'll stay strictly with what they're allowed to say > > As far as I know, no one has ever been banned for doing that and it's unlikely to change as long as you're playing to win Thanks for your view on the topic. However, until I get a source, I still consider all your four cases to be intentionally feeding. Unless, with the first case, you manage to die by a tower without giving any kill assists to the enemy team - which is probably THE most brilliant move in ARAM. > [{quoted}](name=Shamose,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=E54j9Q7r,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-06T01:00:33.587+0000) > > Don't take the word of one support person as the general rule. > > I'd say a lot of people think that dying in this way in ARAM is just part of the game. Actually I had another Riot employee say the same around the same time. But I think I lost that source. Any way, I'd still listen to one Riot employee that I expect has done his/her research on the case to give a precise response rather than what random players in general believe what should be okay. The best outcome of this thread would be that Riot listens to what the players accept as being part of the game, and remove the rule, or narrow it down.
Brutoloco (EUW)
: [SUGGESTION] Ingame Report + Mute
I'd say reporting after the game is best, because that will give a more general and whole understanding of the player, instead of a here-and-now immediately-provoked report button. The decision of reporting someone is not something that should be rushed or simply to do imo. It should be considered in a less stressful environment so the report can considered and described as precisely and constructively as possible. However, a simple reminder-button could be great. Or perhaps an option to report someone from their profile, or from the list of people you just played with/against. I am perfectly aware of the frustration you get when you accidentally leave the score-screen and just after realize you were to report someone that really deserved it. Not sure how much or where Riot listens to game suggestions.
: I got tricked by a troll on champ select.
Leaving in the middle of the game is a punishable offense. No matter the context. Dodging is also a punishable offense, which is - as far as I understand - dealt with automatically and efficiently by adding additional queue time or LP decay or something? Personally haven't played ranked or dodged a single game in the last 4 years, so what do I know.. Trolling him by kill-stealing and disrupting another player's game-play should be a punishable offense in my opinion. You should've dealt with his shit and played Yuumi midlane to your best ability, even if you got no experience with her. Just make sure the rest of the team understands your tough situation, so they won't blame you for performing badly. After the match, just report him, with a description of your case in the report. Another note: If you realize the enemy team is specifically focusing you, use it to your advantage. Stay even more back in line, heck, stay completely away from the fight if that means they will waste valuable time searching for you and at the same time ignore your teammates.
: > [{quoted}](name=shameemax,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=EWBs5hhK,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-08-04T12:01:29.396+0000) > > riots .i play this game in 4 years and u baned my aco%%%% for no reason . If by "no reason", you mean... > Game 3 > In-Game > shameemax: report kindrade plz Report-calling. > shameemax: didnt ask from a noob: Insulting. > shameemax: stop > shameemax: y feed? Blaming. > shameemax: report it Report-calling. > shameemax: troller Insulting/blaming. > shameemax: xdd kid u ded as 1st blood > shameemax: stop crying Insulting. > shameemax: we having bad top laner thats y u talk xdd9 they flaming my team in all chat) > shameemax: we all know u a trash > shameemax: ask from ur bot lane xdd Blaming. > shameemax: plz we can abn this top lanes account Negativity through attempt at weaponizing reports to gang up on someone > shameemax: lets ban his account See above. > shameemax: plz all reort and plz send a card 4 riots( this is not toxic im keep asking to report that player thats not toxic) Report-calling. (And yes, it absolutely _is_ toxic, since at best it makes no difference given the way reports are counted, and at worst only disrupsts team morale by telling your teammates that you have an axe to grind) > Post-Game( after match allso no toxic 4 that troller ) So no signs of... > shameemax: im issuing card allso ..._that?_ I don't have much reason to believe you dropped this petty crusade to get someone you don't like banned.
Actually didn't know report-calling was a punishable offense, until I just researched on behalf of your post. It can be difficult to determine when people are report-calling. In this case it's quite obvious at most times. But what about in these examples? Case 1: You simply mention out in the open "people shouldn't take this game personal" after someone just threatened your family or whatever. You're indirectly making people aware that someone just did something verbally offensive, which may make them report him. Case 2: You point out to someone of a rule so he won't break it (again). For example, if someone just announced he has a phone call he needs to do, and you respond with "Sure! As long as you wait until the game is over, it won't be considered afk'ing.". And just afterwards, he does actually go afk in the middle of the game.
: let us all report everyone every game
One should be blocked from the report system if one is misusing it by reporting innocent players.
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: Anivia's Q invisible
But will it be fixed?
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