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0 IQ ADC (EUW)
: Looking for Support S/G/P
Hey i added you.
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kurnubego (EUNE)
: So in short, you're angry that your team doesn't carry you?
I mean, that's not what i said at all.
: I dont want to offend you, but you are Bronze.. Sure unranked Player are going to play with you, because you are in the lowest Elo.
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: Oh, sorry, it seems that I accidentaly tried to speak to you as an equally intellect being. You have my most honest condolences.
You're talking out your arse. No one tried to put words in your mouth, you just said that randomly. wtf is your problem.
: Well I never said that, so don't try to put words in my mouth.
What in the actual fuck, are you talking about.
Black Baron (EUNE)
: How often do you see such "smart players"? Because as a Platinum summoner I tell you that most summoners I get matchmade with, (both enemies *and* teamates) will go stalling and killing instead of getting a relatively early baron to finish the game. It is rare for me to see a team that pushes the advantage to finish the game early. That's why so many throws occure. That's why I feel that a Sona feed is nothing. Also, after 2-3 deaths she won't be even worth killing, 5 cs > Sona, she needs more time and resources to kill so a smart enemy farms instead. Just don't tilt. That's the worst thing about having a feeding teamate. Tilting, being negative and giving up. That's the stuff that will lose the game for you, not the current advantage the enemy gained from those kills.
I don't think you understand. The sona fed, then trolled with items, so she was useless, but when we got to teamfights or close to them and objectives, she just trolled, but it looked like she was serious.
: That's rarely the case The lane opponent just might be more experienced than the one in your team.
You mean the zed on my team who had only played two placement matches and went 0-10+ in lane had no experience, i never would of guessed.
: >it's not an excuse when you can prove you lost a game because of certain individuals, it's a fact. That you lost one game, sure, that it's not your fault for being at the rank that you are currently, no. You are in the league that you belong in. ELO hell does not exist.
Holy crap please stop. I can prove i just got demoted due to feeders/trollers. That proves i'm in a league i shouldn't be. Since they're the reason i got demoted. stop talking out your arse.
Black Baron (EUNE)
: Yes. Even when that happens. I've been through Bronze V, I've seen this type of things. I'm not talking from a "safe distance" here. I have swam through the shit.
it's possible to win 4v5 i've done it. it's impossible to win when you have two items are the enemy has four, simply because sona has fed them. Smart players won't let you stall for items they just force fights, and seige.
: >the percentage of getting teammates like this is high You have a lower chance to get them than the enemy. >So what do you call teammates who feed/troll the game and make you lose? Unlucky. >I'd consider that elo hell. Because you apparently need an excuse for why everyone else sucks and you are god tier.
is this a real reply or a meme, you don't even make sense. I'm not god tier, nor do i make excuses for why others suck, it's not an excuse when you can prove you lost a game because of certain individuals, it's a fact.
: I am support main. I started from Bronze after Season 6 placement matches. And in Season 5 and 4. fcourse you can't win every game. Yet getting out of Bronze wasn't that hard and it shouldn't be, because of the series helper which gives you 1 free win if you fail the series once.
What does the point matter if four games in a row are filled with feeders/trollers?
: It does, but only inside heads of those who believe in it.
Or the people who queue up to feed/troll?
: I Think that you will climb back to silver, you farm way better then then bronze avarage, you have very good KDA as support so you know teamplay. Your post express some anger and i want you ot ask yourself have i TILT:es? My definition of TILT is when I had a few really bad games/teams i sometimes start to expect my teammates to just feed and do no damage. So i stop help them, i dont tank as i should i run away and I have becommed the problem. If you dont step out of it you lose extragames every time. What does those extragames means? Well a Silverplayer might have about 55% winrate in bronze so if you tilt and lose yourself 5 games that means that means you had to play about 100 more games in bronze. So if you feel like Everythings sucks, like if you cant win because of the bad team, if you expect to lose you will lose! If it feels like that dont play ranked. Play when you are able to belive in victroy again.
No such thing as belief, when your support is building three boots, and running into the enemy team flashing and ulting walls. I don't tilt at all, and it's not being tilted when four games in a row are filled with feeders/trollers. The last game i played i was bronze one and i got matched with two people who we're on their placement games. One of them wen't 0-10 in lane vs leblanc. Elo hell is real.
Black Baron (EUNE)
: It's difficult yet not impossible. In my opinion if someone can't rank up in the long-term it's none's fault but their own. Yes that game with the guy that got 3 boots or afked or trolled sucked. But usually (inlcuding some of these games) skill, knowledge and self-restrain can help you win the game. Generally, if you're (much) better than your enemies you ***will*** in fact win. Exceptions do apply of course since not every game is winnable and so many factors are at hand. But no, Elo Hell is ***not real*** and it's not the thing that's keeping you back from ranking up. It's mostly you think that it's Elo Hell that's keeping you back instead of trying to figure out more about the game and the mechanics. As many pro streamers have proved you can rank up from Bronze/Silver/Gold/Platinum if you're good enough. I've won a 3vs5 game in Silver 3 with my smurf. One of the 2 guys that were still in the game went for Tank Ezreal instead of ADC build. And we won ***that***. So yea. TL;DR Elo Hell is not real, improving one's skills strategy knowledge and attitude is the best way to rank up fast in the ladder. Best of luck ! :)
So skill and knowlege will win the game 4v5 when my sona flash ults into a wall and builds three boots.
: There's a higher probability of the enemy getting such people than your team. ELO hell does not exist.
So what do you call teammates who feed/troll the game and make you lose? They're everywhere, and the percentage of getting teammates like this is high. I'd consider that elo hell.
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Tenchev (EUW)
: Something about account management i guess :)
Tenchev (EUW)
: Ask the support. Write a ticket say what is that you want and you will get automatic reply from a bot saying that you should have it any moment.
Ok, I'll do that. Do you know what part of the support i need to use?
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xCillion (EUW)
: Greetings. If you reported him, and he broke the Rules, he will face the appropriate punishment sooner or later. Behaviour like the this player had, according to your story, is not ok, and unwanted by a majority of the Community. Not sure what else to tell you, other than maybe you should be a bit carefull about not falling into the "retaliation" trap, and end up getting punished yourself. ("he was mentally defective, borderline insane" stuff like this can get you in trouble rather fast aswell for example, ^_^)
Yeah i know, i stopped playing this game because of the same thing that happened here but i like to play the odd game now and then, the reason this time it prompted me to make a post was the way it all went down, the guy was a sociopath i have never seen anything like it before, we were winning it was like 20-4 in kills to us and he just flipped.
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: So in my three years of playing League, this is the first time I got a ranked + chat restriction.
I personally think if you have never been punished in 3 years that you should not be banned just over a few games where you might of been negative or something i am assuming its something like that since its a small restriction, you have been an honest player you need to be rewarded imo, and support will give logs if you persist or they will give you some of the words that you used to get banned, at least they did with me, gl on finding out man
Maluber (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Brxwnie,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=dl830FqF,comment-id=0006000000010000,timestamp=2015-06-06T03:44:43.281+0000) > > Thanks for the advice man, i do most of the time place a lot of wards i think, dont know why i didnt this game but definatly something i can improve on, i think i was real salty about the loss and maybe should not of came here to moan about it, is there a way for me o watch the game? i dont have lol reply just wondering http://wardscore.loltools.net/?name=Brxwnie&region=euw Better than most but still can be improved. The bit about you having more jungle farm than your jungler. I'm wondering if you starved him by clearing all his camps. When he started dying over and over it would've been a good time to let him clear to get the exp and gold from it rather than you taking it. I'm not a jungler, but if I was getting behind I'd be more annoyed about my laners taking my jungle camps than if I was ahead.
I did not tax him or steal it he just would not clear camps he just wanted to fight by the looks of how he went about the map
: I am happy that you post this in the board and not into your next game :) I think there are many things posted how you could improve, so I like to skip it. If you are feed ask your team how you can help them or if you should push your lane. As an feed adc you can be pretty powerfull but it will be hard for them to protect you, since the enemy team will do their best to kill you first. If you luse a teamfight because you died first, ask if your positioning was bad before complaining about protection. If you start to say "my bad" it will be more comfortable for your team to say: " was not your fault" Communicate with them as equals even you play a lot better. People will tend to ignore you if you are speaking down to them. And reconsider the matchmaking is broken, but thats not the players fault so make the best out of a game even you luss some lp. (hope its not a promo or a game where you had 0 lp) I got for example a nidale trying out ranked, she got matched into my s2 promo. Yes she had 70% ranked luss an tier 1 runes. But can I be mad at her, for being matched into my promo. She got an awsome shitstorm from the top lane, even she was trying her best. She also adapted verry well to advice but well tier one runes vs an good talon main. Greetings
I would be perma banned if i put this in chat lol, i tend not to put anything in chat like "my bad" or things that can be interpreted as sarcasm i have been chat restricted before for said things, communication is definatly hard at lower ranks but will help, most people ignore it but you do get every so often a team that all comes together due to someone calling which is nice, yeah it is unfair for people who are not good so to say who get thru into a game which they should not be, bad matchmaking indeed, i think with the more i play the les this throwing/not knowing how to play will go away i just dont have time to play lots.
: Ok, so I am a hobbiest with the riot API. So I got [this spreadsheet](http://bit.do/whokilledwho) that I had to manipulate a little (because it's not ranked) to give me the following information: * Match ID: 2140462994 * Ganked 2 times before 12m * You placed your one ward at 27m into the game into the brush at your team's raptors Time Champ Position 9 Rammus {"x":13558,"y":2892} BOTLANE Ganked Jungler 11 Zed {"x":11737,"y":1130} BOTLANE (towerdive) Ganked Zed (Also netted your 1st kill onto rammus) 23 Riven {"x":13669,"y":3251} BOTLANE Possibly just overextending after, but a ward would've saved you 24 Quinn {"x":9344,"y":8600} 25 Rammus {"x":5781,"y":5694} 26 Rammus {"x":8754,"y":3638} 29 Riven {"x":4672,"y":4477} 31 Riven {"x":6121,"y":5822} 32 Riven {"x":3855,"y":3532} 34 Quinn {"x":3919,"y":4183} 36 Zed {"x":7068,"y":8720} [This is a map of your deaths](http://jsfiddle.net/LdL4b1qe/) Long Story Short: Place your free wards.
Thanks for the advice man, i do most of the time place a lot of wards i think, dont know why i didnt this game but definatly something i can improve on, i think i was real salty about the loss and maybe should not of came here to moan about it, is there a way for me o watch the game? i dont have lol reply just wondering
: > [{quoted}](name=Brxwnie,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=dl830FqF,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2015-06-05T11:40:53.961+0000) > > 2) I never once said i was the best in the team, i said i have more knowledge/knowhow than certain player i have encountered. ----> Yes you did.You said other people waste your time while you kill everything. > > 3) Context, learn to use it, i died 9 times in the last 10 minutes of the game due to the excessive throwing/feeding from members of my team. ----> WRONG. Due to yourself being caught or the team not being able to teamfight. You died 9 times in a row. Fullstop. > > 4) Since when was W/L ratio a representation of how good i am or my skill? ----> It is not. But you have an average ratio. So? > > 5) You checked my games but did not even bother to check the amount of ranked games i have actually played, i dont play enough to progress and that is not the topic of what i said to begin with, the actual point being there is a huge disparity between certain players like me being silver 4 or whatever i am to a gold two who has no idea how to play judging by what i seen. ----> If that is the case, you should be able to carry every single game. > > 6) The point being, variance in ranks, people who are a lot higher than me or the same rank as me are clearly not as well informed as i am evidently so by how games turn out, i am not blaming people for the reason i lose games but it is definitely a defining factor. ---->Well dude - you DO blame others in constantly saying that your team throws the games and wastes your time. > > 7) I did not ask you to be rude nor drift away from the thread by checking my history you should of focused on the things i talked about rather than trying to make me out to be just another whiny cunt. So, what did you talk about then? You want to "burn time" by just playing a match. Go mormals then of that is your reason. You said your team wastes your time if you don't win. ---> This is a totally wrong POV. Whether win or loss, you can learn from every game. If you see a loss as wasted time, stop playing. This is a competitive game, and your teammates expect you to invest energy and do your best, much like they do; specially in ranked. You wanted to burn time while waiting for DPD. Did not mean to be rude btw.
1) "IT'S" a waste of time when certain members on your team throw a game yes, and in that game i did kill everything look at the match history, of course i dont kill everything every game, You just put two things together what i said and made it out to look like i said that towards every game i have ever lost that is not the case at all, i have normal losses like everyone. 2) Due to myself being caught? i did not get caught once all game like where did you get this info was you in the game? i died that many times in that sort time simply because of this, my leblanc is splitting top riven+ rammus show up 2v1 her the rest of there team is nowhere to be seen and we cant win the 4v5 this is what happened over and over same as the sej it was either died mid pushing a wave he didnt need to and shit then the rest of us defend 4v5 get dove over and over till the game was over. 3) if my W/L was even worth talking about i would not be here, you answered your own question. 4) This is were i would like you to actually say why you think this is happpening, i am silver 4 they are gold 2 does that not mean they are better? 5) Well when a part of a "Team" does not play optimally am i wrong to not be mad? why should they not be blamed if they contributed heavily to us losing. i mean there is a report for this afterall. 6) Maybe i worded it wrong, not if i dont win because all games are not all winable, but the ones where you are winning and then somebody chucks away the game yes that is definatly a waste of time, btw the game i played was a normal lol did you think it was ranked i did mention you did not read the post properly. 7) You can definatly learn things from losses i learnt a lot in the early days from getting pounded by bots, i dont see a loss as wasted time most of my losses are fair and we just could not make it happen the other team played better without the trolling/feeder aspect, i hate to make this comparison but i am a high rank in cs go the main game i play now in that game to get better you need to actively learn game by game and you improve, now that has nothing to do with this but at the same time the same applies to league to further yourself in the game you must learn and get better to climb the ladder and i dont see people doing this at my rank obviously so by the way i cant rank up yet i am better than most of the high gold's i have seen, look man maybe i have went abit to far with this whole post today being not happy but hey there is definatly a lot of shit come from me today but theres also alot of truth to what i have said as well, if this post made you mad i am sorry for it.
: Places 1 ward the whole game. Complains on forums about his team.
I think you missed the actual point, i did not die to a single gank or in the jungle, teamfights and getting dove
Jokomoto (EUW)
: You need to fix your Masteries. You loose damage the way you have them for Lucian and get into a more supportive role. Don't play Aram. There is a mode for it. You might wanna consider Quciksilver sash against a fed Zed and Rammus. You were fed so tell people what to do or force objectives. If you can't carry with this lead, then learn it. At minute 21 you had a total of 13 kills and yet you had only gotten 4 objectives. You need to fix that. With this lead it should be easy to force objectives. But instead you went with your Team mid and played aram which looses you the game if you have bad siege like your team. Your team was probably unable to disengage. Before you go and blame your team fix your obvious mistakes but only do this for yourself. There are games that cannot be won but if you blame first before consider improving yourself, then not your team is pulling you down.
Thanks for the fruitful post man, my masteries where ones that was on moba ages ago might of even been sneakys one if i remember i will update them now you have pointed it out thanks. Qss was not a option at the time, i had just bought a bf sword after my IE + GB and i didnt really want to get into a fiddle with builds, i think it would of been pointless since riven + rammus and leona where flashing for me so i was pretty much dead after the team did there part lol. definatly a option for the closer games but i am not the best at knowing when to use it easy for death mark but not so easy for 3 champs headbutting me. when it comes to objectives i am usually on top of it as we all know what happens at low elo when you get a few kills or free time to get them, its easier said than done sometimes, in that game i noticed my team was in and around mid poking and looking to bait so i got myself up there and we engage i culled two to death and one more we got mid and it was so early we had to back off, then it begins leblanc starts messing around dies over and over sej for some reason as you can see in match history decided that he did not need to farm or get items for that matter, i do say a lot of positive things in chat and mention what we need to be doing but once people have it in there mind they do whatever they want and if i say something like you cant be doing such and such we will lose obj and get dived if its a 4v5 i will get reported for this and chat banned as i have been before even pinging where we need to be or calling dragon, it was easy for me to force anything in that game until my team started you know what i could literally walk up just out of tower range and kill all of them but when you dont have a team its a little hard, we did have real bad siege but you are forgetting that of course people at these ranks wont push a wave and try to catch the enemy on the rotate or apply pressure on other lanes to force it does not work like that as i said lebanc just thought she could 1v1 1v2 anyone and so on and so forth. I would not say i am blaming people maybe i worded it that way if so my mistake, there is literally no way for me to improve i think if i am honest i have practiced every champ i would consider taking into ranked i never pick a champion i am not confident in, i have done all the work looking at match ups so i dont get slaughtered, i have tried to have as many runes as possible but i dont play enough to warrant all the hybrid ones, i always play the game with the team in mind i hardly ever feed always ping my lane is missing and so on i pretty much learned bucket loads when i first started the game after seeing how people was beforehand my cs is always good at the ten minute mark you see what i am getting at, youtube or a reddit thread with someone giving tips or besides that its paying for skillcapped or something because i have pretty much learned everything from videos and what not of course i can improve but i would think that would come with more games. Sorry for the long post maybe i am just not happy with league atm hence why i am not playing it after that loss, i was definatly in a bad mood so i might of been a C**T in this thread. i would like to end on this though sometime last week i asked on the boards for anyone wanting to play ranked 5s i got some diamond 4 guy who added me to his team and off we went and in the games we won which was all of them bar one i held my own vs plat+dia players so i definatly think i can fly up the ranks i just dont like playing a lot and when i do silly things happen and well it kind of makes me dislike the game i suppose the being mad about feeders/trollers and people who dont listen is the actual improvment part if i just get on with it, it most likely will get easier and i would be less mad, sorry again for the long reply, thanks for the tip on updating my masteries.
: QQ thread. Did you read yourself what you have written? You are always the best player int he team, and "your" team throws the game. Jaja. I for my part am always blaming myself if I have 10 deaths or more. Feeding 10 deaths is way beyond good. Your match history shows a normal W/L ratio. So I guess you are nothing special. No reason to blame others; moreover, blaming others for your losses is the #1 reason to not progress.
1) Seeing as i typed it all, and the sentences were formed in my brain, You could probably say i have comprehended it all. 2) I never once said i was the best in the team, i said i have more knowledge/knowhow than certain player i have encountered. 3) Context, learn to use it, i died 9 times in the last 10 minutes of the game due to the excessive throwing/feeding from members of my team. 4) Since when was W/L ratio a representation of how good i am or my skill? 5) You checked my games but did not even bother to check the amount of ranked games i have actually played, i dont play enough to progress and that is not the topic of what i said to begin with, the actual point being there is a huge disparity between certain players like me being silver 4 or whatever i am to a gold two who has no idea how to play judging by what i seen. 6) The point being, variance in ranks, people who are a lot higher than me or the same rank as me are clearly not as well informed as i am evidently so by how games turn out, i am not blaming people for the reason i lose games but it is definitely a defining factor. 7) I did not ask you to be rude nor drift away from the thread by checking my history you should of focused on the things i talked about rather than trying to make me out to be just another whiny cunt.
: You can't report the queen of the forums you puny mortal!
Unskilled Commenter Kappa
: http://media.giphy.com/media/ZSp0Uy2DSCFmU/giphy.gif a real man keeps trying Kappa
: oh well, you will rank up when the time is ripe!
I barely play ranked anymore, silver is one tough place man maybe 2hard5me
Stell (EUNE)
: I played riven just for the sake of lulz yesterday (haven't played her like never), went something like 12-2, but then i dun goofed and threw the game alone. Shit happen for everyone. If you fear the game then don't play it. There's no point thinking "what would happen if i go and play." Just play or don't play
The title is just a edgy one lol, i dont fear the game i fear wasting my time, the game we are speaking about i did not throw my lead i came mid after laning phase ended we started taking objectives together and my leblanc thought it would be good to leave and split and try to 1v2 and riven and rammus over and over and over until i could not use my advantage to win anymore
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Then consider this: Your opponents and allies comes from the exact same pool of players. If you are truly always way more skilled than the people in your team, then you are always way more skilled than the players on the opposing team. Which means that your team has 1 good player, and the opposing team has 0 good players. Then why are you not winning? I'm not trying to sound rude: but by experience, when people spend time blaming everyone else instead of focusing on their own mistakes, they're exactly where their skill belongs.
Me more skilled than most people i play with or against not a chance i have seen a lot of people at my level who are real good on some hard champs also, i think what i am trying to say is hard to put into words i think you know what i mean though, sometimes it is just obvious that some people in my game are just not on the same page/level if that is the word i would use, as me i terms of what to do here or there or matchup as i said hard for me to say but i think you get what i mean, i am not like saying fuck man these people holding me back, but certain things people do just end the game no matter what i have do or do and that is the frustrating part, i know i need to get myself out and i can easy but it is very stressfull to say the least. as you said "You still died 11 times, 9 of them being within the last 12 minutes of the game" you can clearly see what happened in that game and what was the cause of why we lost, i think you know where i am coming from, am not saying i deserve a rank up or i am better than anyone i just dont want to lose any love i had for the game and my enjoyment for it
: Dpd, goodluck m8, you'll be waiting a while.
Mate, Greg is bringing it to me my email said, dont doubt him hahaha
: The only thing i can see in that match history is that your team trew it, you had the advantage and you just dun goofed :p
The throws where some of the best i have ever seen lol i did everyhting i could of to win and people well just did not wantr the same thing lol
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Greetings. Are you saying you make no mistakes yourself? Are you perfect? You still died 11 times, 9 of them being within the last 12 minutes of the game. You are a silver player, because you are currently in silver. If you truly are a gold player, you will climb. However, you will never improve your own gameplay if you spend time on blaming everyone else for your losses. You were part of the loss as well, so you can still improve.
Oh god, i make loads of mistakes, nothing like trying to W+R with leblanc into a rammus though, i have no problem with people calling me out in game or whatever but i dont want to sound like a cunt but most of the time it is very rare it was my fault why i lost a game, i play very smart and i play for the team, of course there are things i could be doing to win more i suppose but when working with 4 other random people i have no input with its very hard, i think complaining about feeders and maybe if not to harsh people who are not as knowledgeable about the game as i am, i watch a lot of vids on how to improve, i follow the meta when i can, and i know what champs to play and where to play them, all round i have not seen many people with the same knowledge as me at my rank, does that mean i am good hell no but when others are not on the same page it makes me not want to waste my time so i think it is a good thing i am not playing atm gives me some time to think and refresh
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: So you believe your opponents don't have the same issue? Some are worse than others. They will eventually end in bronze, while you will end up in gold+. You can't win every game, but you can win the majority of it :) Look at your own plays and behavior before pointing at others. As others said already; placements based on KDA are completely horrible. ^^ EDIT: And looking at your personal kda (4.8 8.0 11.6) you could make some improvements yourself. I understand Bronze V would be very difficult to get out of, but álways look at your own mistakes first. If you are good, you will carry games, and win more than 50% - which is enough. You should consider that when you are put up against team of YOUR LEVEL, and you win less than you lose, that maybe, just maybe, it might have something to do with yourself as well. :)
The lower ranks have a major problem with just players not knowing how to actually play the game, like after giving first blood away how to play safe and not carry on giving away more kills, items are a huge problem also people not building resistances in matchups they need to, things like this destroy low ranked games. myself being like silver something see this all the time, i know how to play every champ i would pick when going into ranked and how to play matchups but that comes from me learning and watching pro games and trail and error in normal games, i can obviously rank up easy as i know i dont belong in silver but i feel like if i wanted to play ranked more than i do it would be stressfull. The new system they are going to use to ban extreme feeders i think is totally wrong, they should have a programme or ranked restriction + training or something along those lines to teach people how to not start the game of by giving kills away, obviously easier said than done but most people in low ranks simply dont understand basic league not there fault at all and they are entitled to play as much as they want but it can be a pain for others
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