Kaluchii (EUW)
: Broken Senna - Glacial Augment - Full Gameplay
Literally not busted though, is she? Try again.
Yraco (EUW)
: That's interesting then. Could you give updates on what happens?
Once the entire situation is concluded.
: > [{quoted}](name=CMPlays92,realm=EUW,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=c1dsx7jy,comment-id=0006000000010000,timestamp=2020-01-29T15:47:27.387+0000) > 'And you studied law' - I did. I'm guessing that you failed or did badly, due to repeatedly presenting assumptions as facts (like you have in this thread). > 'you must read the law in full' - I did. And you do not need to meet ALL subsections of a law to break said law. Agreed. However, the meaning of a law needs to be defined within the text of the law itself, and the law you quoted (your own source) clearly states that you have no case. > 'Acts that are considered (by the law) to be capable of encouraging' - The key word here is ENCOURAGING. No: 'ACTS' and 'CAPABLE' are the keywords. Maybe you should get your lawyer to explain the importance of section F42A to you: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Eliz2/9-10/60 * * * Do as you wish: waste your money on lawyers for all I care. It won't bother me. I'm sure if Rito (or the person in question) reads my post, they will learn that they have no reason to give their money to lawyers in order to deal with you (if they didn't already know). Good day to you. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
'I'm guessing that you failed' - I suppose that's why I graduated with First-class honours. 'Agreed' - You can stop typing at this point. 'No: 'ACTS' and 'CAPABLE' are the keywords.' - Wrong. 'Maybe you should get your lawyer to explain section F42A to you:' - Don't need to. Read 'D does an act capable of ENCOURAGING...' 'waste your money on lawyers' - It's hardly a waste of money. 'I'm sure if Rito (or the person in question) reads my post, they will learn that they have no reason to give their money to lawyers in order to deal with you (if they didn't already know).' - Sure, them representing themselves would make it much easier, but I'll win either way. It's an open and shut case. Now, off you pop, back to being 'finished' with me.
Yraco (EUW)
: > 'You are confusing the legal language' - Please explain how I am confusing the legal language? What is written in law about this subject is very clear. Very simply, it's very unlikely to be followed up on because it would probably not be seen as a serious offence unless you actually went through with it and killed yourself because of what they said, making basically all of this irrelevant because the most that will happen is they get banned from the game.
'it's very unlikely to be followed up on' - Incorrect. The police are investigating. 'the most that will happen is they get banned' - Also incorrect. If the police investigation yields no fruit then we are going forward with a civil suit against the player in question.
: > [{quoted}](name=CMPlays92,realm=EUW,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=c1dsx7jy,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2020-01-28T23:44:44.427+0000) > > In the UK, where I am from, under the Suicide Act 1961 [http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Eliz2/9-10/60] it is an indictable offence to encourage suicide; > > Criminal liability for complicity in another’s suicide. > [F1(1)A person (“D”) commits an offence if— > (a)D does an act capable of encouraging or assisting the suicide or attempted suicide of another person, and > (b)D's act was intended to encourage or assist suicide or an attempt at suicide. Yes, but you must read the law in full to understand it: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Eliz2/9-10/60 **Acts that are considered (by the law) to be capable of encouraging or assisting suicide:** (1)If D arranges for a person (“D2”) to do an act that is capable of encouraging or assisting the suicide or attempted suicide of another person and D2 does that act, D is also to be treated for the purposes of this Act as having done it. _ - *The person in question did not arrange anything for you*._ (2)Where the facts are such that an act is not capable of encouraging or assisting suicide or attempted suicide, for the purposes of this Act it is to be treated as so capable if the act would have been so capable had the facts been as D believed them to be at the time of the act or had subsequent events happened in the manner D believed they would happen (or both). _- I doubt that the person in question believed their words would have brought about your suicide, and in a court of law, you would have to prove that they did in order to win your case (good luck with that)..._ (3)A reference in this Act to a person (“P”) doing an act that is capable of encouraging the suicide or attempted suicide of another person includes a reference to P doing so by threatening another person or otherwise putting pressure on another person to commit or attempt suicide.] _- *You admitted yourself in this thread that you did not feel pressured into taking your own life*._ And you studied law? O.o * * * What unsettles me is that you don't seem to care about suicide victims or those predisposed: it appears that you want to use the issue of suicide to inflict punishment on to other people, and profit from suicide by 'suing'... There are social gradients in suicide in both the UK and US: inequality (or poverty in a wealthy society) causes/encourages suicide among those who feel that they have little to no power over their lives as a result of their social position (i.e., their social class) (Baudelot and Establet 2008). By definition, if you know this and do nothing about it (and I have just alerted you to the fact), you are breaking the very law you just quoted...
'I'm finished talking with you' - I thought you were finished talking to me? Have the conviction to back up your claims. 'you must read the law in full' - I did. And you do not need to meet ALL subsections of a law to break said law. 'Acts that are considered (by the law) to be capable of encouraging' - The key word here is ENCOURAGING. '(2)Where the facts are such that an act is not capable of encouraging or assisting suicide or attempted suicide, for the purposes of this Act it is to be treated as so capable if the act would have been so capable had the facts been as D believed them to be at the time of the act or had subsequent events happened in the manner D believed they would happen (or both).' - This is entirely irrelevant. 'and in a court of law, you would have to prove that they did in order to win your case' - Incorrect. I only need to prove that I was encouraged to do so. Telling someone to '%%%' is encouragement. 'A reference in this Act to a person (“P”) doing an act that is capable of encouraging' - Again, keyword ENCOURAGEMENT. 'You admitted yourself in this thread that you did not feel pressured into taking your own life.' - Irrelevant. I was still ENCOURAGED to do so. 'And you studied law' - I did. 'What unsettles me is that you don't seem to care' - There you go, again, trying to tell me about my life. Now, go back to being 'finished talking' with me, because you're spouting utter nonsense when there is a serious matter at hand.
FURRY V2 (EUNE)
: If you were not offended then you shouldn't shout out loud that someone said such to you in a **game**. Crimes are **threatening** and **psychological influence**. Ordering or suggesting something to do without any of the ones above is not a crime. You are free to decide if you want to do his order / suggestion. You are not forced to.
The law where I live; http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Eliz2/9-10/60 The law in California where Riot HQ is; https://www.shouselaw.com/aiding-suicide.html As per the letter of the law where I reside and where Riot HQ is located, it IS a crime to encourage someone to commit suicide.
: You are confusing the legal language which is meant to protect vulnerable people with terminal illnesses, who may have impaired judgement and be in the company of greedy relatives who wish to avoid expensive care costs and treatment. If somone was to need say an expected 10 years private care, the bills could cost them their home. Some relatives talk their elders into ending their life, ultimately so they dont lose inheritance. Telling someone to %%%, or go jump off a cliff in a game, will never be seen as more than a tasteless insult. You would have to be unusually thin skinned to take these words that deep and act upon them, and being so would actually warrant you seeking professional help since you would likely be vulnerable in any competitive environment, socially or business. Assisting someone to end their life, especially when it has financial implications would directly constitute manslaughter and possibly murder if you directly assist. And as such it is forbidden to encourage or assist this. Doctors can 'induce' patients with morphine to hurry the natural process and alleviate suffering. But this is quite hushed and only done in 'end of life' treatment stages. If people are mad at losing a game and being insulted, i still think they should just report and move on. You cannot change the way humans are, and stopping free speech is not the answer.
'You are confusing the legal language' - Please explain how I am confusing the legal language? What is written in law about this subject is very clear. 'which is meant to protect vulnerable people with terminal illnesses,...' - This is indeed ONE very small part of this law, it is not, however, the be all and end all of this law. 'Telling someone to %%%, or go jump off a cliff in a game' - Is, by the letter of the law, a crime. (As I have proven with links to the appropriate laws in the UK and California). 'You would have to be unusually thin skinned to take these words that deep and act upon them' - Or perhaps I just have a respect for the law and a level of human decency that makes me want these people punished. Yes, to the larger perception, they may appear to be nothing but internet trolls but small behaviours like this that go unpunished can lead to such persons having a much more negative impact on society because they feel completely untouchable. As a wise man, or woman, once said; 'Be kind, you don't know what battle someone else is fighting'. Perhaps, I had gone ahead and killed myself, or attempted to, would your stance still be 'seek professional help'? If so, that is victim blaming, and as such, to tell me to seek professional help for bring this event to light, is ALSO victim blaming. That said, to anyone reading this who DOES have suicidal thoughts or tendencies I do URGE you in the strongest possible way to seek professional help in dealing with the underlying circumstances that are causing you so much pain. 'Assisting someone to end their life, especially when it has financial implications would directly constitute manslaughter and possibly murder if you directly assist.' - This somewhat incorrect. There are several countries in which assisted suicide IS legal. There are steps you must take in order to prove the person wishing to die is of 'sound mind' to make such a decision etc. Also, in the UK, assisted suicide is a standalone criminal offence which carries a maximum 14 year sentence. Euthanasia however, depending on the circumstances, CAN be tried as manslaughter or murder. California has the, 'End of Life Option Act', which allows physicians to prescribe drugs to patients to self-administer so they can end their lives - but once again, certain criteria have to be met. 'If people are mad at losing a game and being insulted, i still think they should just report and move on. You cannot change the way humans are, and stopping free speech is not the answer.' - I did report the incident, but guess what, Riot have done NOTHING about it. The player in question changed his/her Summoner Name and is still playing unpunished. Also, it is NOT free speech to tell someone to kill themselves - as I have already explained and proved, that IS a crime. Freedom of Speech does not permit one to commit a crime with their speech or expressions, but moreover, committing a crime trumps your Freedom of Speech, and as we have established, encouraging suicide IS a crime.
FURRY V2 (EUNE)
: Do you get it you were offended in a **game**? Stop whining and do something else. Christ.. You have too much free time, this is your problem.
I am not, nor was I at the time, offended. And regardless of if I was or was not offended, it's a crime to make such a statement.
βÆ SUZY (EUW)
: They can't tell you on support what they plan to do to another account, additionally they don't want to give a definitive answer, as they've not yet decided what they'll do. If it does get punished they can let you know it happened, because a decision was already officially made. It is so they don't say one thing then do another.
And yet, in this same thread I proved otherwise. Try again though.
: you cant ban someone for banning a champ suck it up and play a diffrent champ its a %%%% move but playing sett is a disgrace anyways such an op champ
To intentionally ban the champion I have indicated I wish to play IS a form of griefing. And thus the player who did so should be punished.
: Its not really illegal to insult people. And i wouldn't want to live in a world where my words were punishable because someone disagreed with them. However you can just block and mute people, and reporting them is fine. Obviously there are policies that riot expects players to behave by and they might get bans, but no punishment details are ever shared. This is pretty normal int he business world too, people are dismissed in a confidential manner as standard practice.
In the UK, where I am from, under the Suicide Act 1961 [http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Eliz2/9-10/60] it is an indictable offence to encourage suicide; Criminal liability for complicity in another’s suicide. [F1(1)A person (“D”) commits an offence if— (a)D does an act capable of encouraging or assisting the suicide or attempted suicide of another person, and (b)D's act was intended to encourage or assist suicide or an attempt at suicide. In California, where Riot HQ is based, it is a felony to encourage another person to commit suicide [https://www.shouselaw.com/aiding-suicide.html]; Under Penal Code 401 PC, California's aiding a suicide law, it is a felony in California to help someone else commit suicide, or advise or encourage them to commit suicide. 'The legal definition of aiding a suicide You violate California's “aiding a suicide” law when you deliberately do either of the following: Help someone commit suicide; or Advise or encourage someone to commit suicide.' It is not a matter of someone insulting me, it's a matter of LAW. By the law of the land where I reside (The UK) and by the law of the land where RIot HQ is (California), it IS a crime to encourage suicide. There is no two ways about it, that IS the law.
: > [{quoted}](name=CMPlays92,realm=EUW,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=c1dsx7jy,comment-id=00050000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-27T17:15:39.437+0000) > > 'I never claimed to know all about your life' - Except this statement is evidence to the contrary - 'you don't appear to have any interest or understanding of the very serious topic at hand'. No it is not evidence to the contrary: you're attacking a straw man. I hope English is not your first language. It's like this: if you told me that a Lee Sin Q restores the health of a targeted ally, and I called you out by saying you don't understand Lee Sin, that would not mean that I'm claiming to know all about your life. It would mean that I know enough about the topic to recognise that you don't know what you're talking about (and that you have little interest in Lee Sin). > 'What about the social side?' - Everything to do with humans is social, thus the legal and mental/emotional sides cover it. No they do not cover it, because the social causes of suicide are not mental or emotional: they are generally institutional. Ever wonder why law, psychology and sociology are regarded as different academic disciplines? > 'The legal system was not developed to prevent suicide' - Never claimed it was. Never claimed you did; again, attacking a straw man. > 'the legal system plays a part in encouraging suicide' - Complete nonsense. Oh yes, of course. You know more than professors who have gained international recognition for their works on the topic. >This is also victim blaming and is a convoluted way of saying that I should just suck it up, grin and bare it. Straw man argument again... I never asked you to suck anything up: your ignorance on the topic blinds you from what I'm actually saying and you enter defensive mode. I'm not victim blaming; I've only stated facts. > 'You clearly don't.' - There you go again, claiming you know everything about my and my life. Thank you for once again proving your ignorance. Again, repeating this illogical straw man argument... I never claimed to know all about your life. I claimed that you know very little of the scientific research on suicide. Repeating the same straw man argument twice in one post does not make it any less of a logical fallacy. > 'I find that hard to believe' - Cool story. I also find it hard to believe you've spent the majority of your adult life studying suicide. And why is that? It's not hard to do. Read books and peer reviewed journal articles. Record facts. Write. I admit it is a complex topic in that you will not learn a lot about it overnight, but if you have a real interest in the topic you won't give up. Don't assume that every LoL player doesn't educate themselves about the topics they speak on just because you don't. * * * I'm finished talking with you: you repeatedly present logical fallacies (mainly straw man arguments) and assumptions as facts.
'I'm finished talking with you.' - Because you know I am correct and you are wrong. Nice try though.
: then inform the support that you want to take legal action against players in question and they will guide you through the proccess. but I do suggest you get an attorney to consult with before doing anything.
I did inform support and they told me they can no longer keep the ticket open. This is because RIot Support are uneducated and believe I am taking legal action against Riot. (That might happen eventually). I've studied law and I have a lawyer on retainer. I know what I'm doing?
: > [{quoted}](name=CMPlays92,realm=EUW,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=c1dsx7jy,comment-id=000500000000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-27T16:15:57.385+0000) > > Ah yes because you know all about my life,. don't you? No, you do not. You know absolutely nothing about me, so to claim that I 'don't appear to have any understanding of the topic at hand' is hilarious and shows how ignorant you are. I never claimed to know all about your life. I said that I have spent the majority of my adult life studying suicide, and it appears that you have little understanding or interest in the topic of suicide. These are facts. There is no need to get defensive because I am stating facts and asking questions. > But, back to the actual topic at hand. It can be analysed, comprehended, understood (take your choice of word and insert it here), in two ways; > 1. The legal side. > 2. The mental/emotional side. What about the social side? Sociology was established as an academic discipline via a study on suicide that was published in 1897 (I referenced this work in my first post). Sociologists have been studying and documenting the social causes of suicide for over 120 years now. > Let's break down both and let's start with something I know a little bit about - The legal side. > > Regardless of whether a person does or does not kill themselves when another person tells them to do so, the act of telling someone to kill themselves is classified as 'encouraging suicide' which IS a criminal offence is MOST places. It certainly is where I live, and it certainly is in California, where Riot has it's HQ. > > And then we have the problem that if Riot fails, or refuses to report such a crime once they have been made aware via a report, then Riot Games becomes an accessory after the fact. > > That's the law side of things, and as I stated somewhere else, I am in the process of taking legal action against the person who told me to kill myself. The legal system was not developed to prevent suicide, and it is inadequate for the task. Studies also suggest that the legal system plays a part in encouraging suicide. > As for the mental/emotional side of things, I am very well aware of the potential impact(s) of telling someone to kill themselves. There are many a reason that someone might kill themselves, but let's be completely real, simply being told by some random on the internet is NOT going to be the sole reason you kill yourself. There WILL be many other underlying issues and should a person want to kill themselves... Agreed. > ...I urge them in the strongest possible way to seek professional help in figuring out what the causes of their depression are. A number of sociologists and psychologists would disagree that this is an adequate 'solution' (they also claim that the reliance on the 'solution' you have proposed is part of the problem), but I would not discourage anyone from seeking help in any way. > So, go ahead, tell me I don't understand the issue... You clearly don't. Also, I see that you do not deny having little interest in the topic. > Oh and FYI, I haven't once downvoted you. I find that hard to believe seeing as the downvote comes with your negative reply (and you're the only person replying negatively to the facts that I have stated), but i'll let that slide: it's not really relevant to the discussion.
'I never claimed to know all about your life' - Except this statement is evidence to the contrary - 'you don't appear to have any interest or understanding of the very serious topic at hand'. 'What about the social side?' - Everything to do with humans is social, thus the legal and mental/emotional sides cover it. 'The legal system was not developed to prevent suicide' - Never claimed it was. 'the legal system plays a part in encouraging suicide' - Complete nonsense. This is also victim blaming and is a convoluted way of saying that I should just suck it up, grin and bare it. 'You clearly don't.' - There you go again, claiming you know everything about my and my life. Thank you for once again proving your ignorance. 'I find that hard to believe' - Cool story. I also find it hard to believe you've spent the majority of your adult life studying suicide.
: > [{quoted}](name=CMPlays92,realm=EUW,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=c1dsx7jy,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-27T13:19:45.962+0000) > > It hardly matters. Maybe not to you. As a person who spent the majority of their adult life studying the topic of suicide, I came to this thread because of its title: 'I was told to kill myself'. I find it a little unsettling that you don't appear to have any interest or understanding of the very serious topic at hand. Downvote me again for a third time if you like.
Ah yes because you know all about my life,. don't you? No, you do not. You know absolutely nothing about me, so to claim that I 'don't appear to have any understanding of the topic at hand' is hilarious and shows how ignorant you are. But, back to the actual topic at hand. It can be analysed, comprehended, understood (take your choice of word and insert it here), in two ways; 1. The legal side. 2. The mental/emotional side. Let's break down both and let's start with something I know a little bit about - The legal side. Regardless of whether a person does or does not kill themselves when another person tells them to do so, the act of telling someone to kill themselves is classified as 'encouraging suicide' which IS a criminal offence is MOST places. It certainly is where I live, and it certainly is in California, where Riot has it's HQ. And then we have the problem that if Riot fails, or refuses to report such a crime once they have been made aware via a report, then Riot Games becomes an accessory after the fact. That's the law side of things, and as I stated somewhere else, I am in the process of taking legal action against the person who told me to kill myself. As for the mental/emotional side of things, I am very well aware of the potential impact(s) of telling someone to kill themselves. There are many a reason that someone might kill themselves, but let's be completely real, simply being told by some random on the internet is NOT going to be the sole reason you kill yourself. There WILL be many other underlying issues and should a person want to kill themselves I urge them in the strongest possible way to seek professional help in figuring out what the causes of their depression are. So, go ahead, tell me I don't understand the issue and prove your ignorance again. Oh and FYI, I haven't once downvoted you.
CMPlays92 (EUW)
: Storytime.
Also a big LMFAO to whoever downvoted this.
Rioter Comments
: To be honest while you can and should report threats to authorities in your own country, they are usually not acted upon as those threats are not considered dangerous, unless certain criterias are met.
I am in the process of taking legal action against the player in question.
: > [{quoted}](name=CMPlays92,realm=EUW,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=c1dsx7jy,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2020-01-27T12:33:42.874+0000) > Many people fail to understand that telling someone to kill themselves is classified as encouraging suicide, which in most places is a criminal offence and I truly believe that Riot do not understand that once such an act is reported to Riot, if they fail to take legal action, Riot becomes an accessory after the fact. Alas, this is the situation we find ourselves in. Out of curiosity, are you trying to be an advocate for suicide victims and those who are predisposed to suicide, or are you trying to uphold the legal system?
: The same happened to me recently. I didn't do really good in a ARAM game and a player insulted me during the game, keept insulting me after the game, told me to kill myself and sent me a link to a page where you can post notes with a big text of insults. I screenshoted everything, reported him in the lobby and sent a ticket to the support with all pictures. That was a week ago and if i track this player he is still playing. In my opunion people acting like that should get a perma bann or at least 14 days bann. To tell someone to kill himself because he had a bad game is just pathetic but Riot seems to not take it that serious as they always tell the people.
It is unfortunately, an all too common occurrence because people believe they have pure anonymity on the internet and thus believe they are immune from repercussion, and when companies like Riot refuse to take an active stance against this type of behaviour, it just reinforces the perception that it is acceptable. Many people fail to understand that telling someone to kill themselves is classified as encouraging suicide, which in most places is a criminal offence and I truly believe that Riot do not understand that once such an act is reported to Riot, if they fail to take legal action, Riot becomes an accessory after the fact. Alas, this is the situation we find ourselves in.
: Done {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
You sir, are a the hero we need. But not the one we deserve. And by we, I mean I. :D
: ***
Incorrect. Riot do not keep logs of all activities of in-client events. It would be an impossible task and it would take up far too much storage space. Nice try though. Next time you want act smart, actually know what you're talking about. This will be my last correspondence with you. The next time you hear from me will be via my legal team.
Drda (EUW)
: Sett main identified
Sett has no counters.
Lăptișor (EUNE)
: Why do you care about what some low quality human being says over the internet. They are clearly not worth your time. Drinking expired milk causes indigestion, if you get what I am saying. You don`t need no spawn of the unholy in your life. If Riot will not punish them, just silently judge the heck out of both parties, because you are a king/queen and you got to keep on slayin`. What do we say to the unworthy? {{sticker:sg-ahri-3}} No, thank you.
Because it's quite literally against the law. If someone murders someone and doesn't get caught, does that mean that murder didn't happen? No. Stop hiding behind 'it's the internet' as a damned excused. It's pathetic and tantamount to victim blaming. A law was broken. Riot Games has an OBLIGATION to report this to the appropriate authorities. If they fail or refuse to do so, they are an accessory after the fact. And I'm sure Riot do not want THAT publicity do they?
: > [{quoted}](name=CMPlays92,realm=EUW,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=c1dsx7jy,comment-id=0001000100000000,timestamp=2020-01-25T19:48:09.810+0000) > > You do not understand what harassing is, do you? You added me and then told me to die. Good thing that they see whom added whom.
I have video of you adding me. It's not hard to prove. Now stop harassing me or I will sue you the same as I am suing another 2 members of this community.
16 Chars (EUW)
: It's not reportable, the best thing you can do is just don't dodge and play the game as their toxic behaviour will continue in-game most likely and there's an easy report for a 'potential' punishment. Also that's a reason why i almost never hover a champion i want to play before bans, too many entitled cry babies.
So I have to suffer through a lost game just to report these players? This is a VERY BAD system and will make sure new players will NOT stick with League. Is no wonder League is a dying game.
CMPlays92 (EUW)
: Champion Select...
3 game in a row my OWN team BANS my Sett after I ask them NOT to. RIOT PLEASE DO SOMETHING!
CMPlays92 (EUW)
: Champion Select...
CMPlays92 (EUW)
: Champion Select...
And now two games in a row my team have banned Sett after I ask them not to... Is this reportable?
Rioter Comments
CMPlays92 (EUW)
: I Was Told to Kill Myself...
So, here is more proof that TWO Riot Support staff lied to me; 'Really sorry to hear about this unpleasant situation :| but thank you for keeping an eye out. We have started an investigation regarding [account name redacted] account.' This is all the first support agent needed to tell me. Instead I was lied to, TWICE.
: Yes, because you get the report right after the guy has been punished, but that doesn't mean that it was the last person you reported. The System only punished players if they consistently get reported over and over again within a certain period of time. To make you better understand, here's an example: 1. January 2020 - You reported a guy for something 30. January - They guy got punished because in the last 29 days, you AND other people have also reported him. 30. January - You get your instant feedback report. It's called INSTANT, because you get it right after the guy was punished, BUT that doesn't mean that the punishment was for the last guy that you reported. It could be for a guy you reported months back. Or do you actually think 1 report is enough to get someone punished? You have any idea how many people are abusing the report system? If we punished every person just because someone reported them, the game would have no players within a week.
: Except it is not obvious which player gets punished. You could have reported a player 1 month ago, then 29 days later he actually got banned and you get a pop up that "a player you reported got punished bla bla bla". I myself got 2 of these pop ups within the last week and I haven't reported anyone for weeks.
Except they are INSTANT. It's quite literally in the name.
: Except it is not obvious which player gets punished. You could have reported a player 1 month ago, then 29 days later he actually got banned and you get a pop up that "a player you reported got punished bla bla bla". I myself got 2 of these pop ups within the last week and I haven't reported anyone for weeks.
Except they are INSTANT. It's quite literally in the name.
Roxãs (EUW)
: so...is it a no?
It's an entirely irrelevant question.
Roxãs (EUW)
: ***
Is an entirely irrelevant question.
: Yeah the whole required by law stuff is mostly an excuse imho. Something the PR guys of a company say cause it sounds good. I mean they probably could not make personal information like real life name and adress public, but they surely could publicly say ingamename "offender123" has been punished for transgression x and was punished with penalty y. I'd really really really like to hear the law quoted which supposedly forbids this. The truth, as usual, is more likely to be found following the money. Posting updates on penalties is time and effort that are worth money and companies see no reason to invest in that just so we the players can feel better about it.
They attempt to hide behind data protection laws, however, there is no personal data connected with an account. Furthermore Riot have, on multiple occasions, publicly announced that players have been suspended and these public announcements HAVE included real names. (Gotta love the power of the internet right).
: > [{quoted}](name=CMPlays92,realm=EUW,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=c1dsx7jy,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2020-01-25T18:17:59.665+0000) > > Ah good old victim blaming. I also think it's hilarious how you added me in game and told me to 'go die'. > > You may think you deleted me quickly enough but I got screenshots, don't you worry. Great, they will have a chance to punish you for harrasing me.
You do not understand what harassing is, do you? You added me and then told me to die.
: Is this your first time on the internet? If things like that actually affect you then stop using internet or stop accepting people you don't know to your friends list. I understand when this happens in game and might tilt or distract you, but after the game ends, it's all on you. I'd actually would like to see people who spam Riot Support with random complains like that to get punished.
Ah good old victim blaming. I also think it's hilarious how you added me in game and told me to 'go die'. You may think you deleted me quickly enough but I got screenshots, don't you worry.
Hansiman (EUW)
: > they also cannot show instant feedback reports which is very clear which player is punished. They can, because these can not be tied to specific players. --- > Also, Riot would be obligated by law to report criminal activity on their game to the authorities. Who says they won't? If you feel that someone should be reported to the proper authorities, you can do so yourself.
Except it is VERY obvious which players is punished because these pop up when you report someone and that player is punished. It is a very simple logic. They will not because the player in question is STILL not banned so Riot will not do anything.
Hansiman (EUW)
: > privacy or something (which is total nonsense) Or, totally obligated by law. They can't disclose this information. --- > However, when I reported someone via the post game lobby report system, I got an instant feedback notice telling me the player had been punished. Those will rarely pop up, under certain conditions. It's generally not possible to know exactly what player got punished
If RIot are obligated by law that they cannot enclose this information (which is not correct) they also cannot show instant feedback reports which is very clear which player is punished. Also, Riot would be obligated by law to report criminal activity on their game to the authorities. Me being told to kill myself is 'encouraging suicide' which is against the law in many places. They cannot eat their cake and have it too.
Rioter Comments
: Hey there! Here is a list of simple champs that cost between 450 and 4800: * **Top:** {{champion:86}} Garen, {{champion:122}} Darius, {{champion:36}} Mundo, {{champion:82}} Mordekaiser, {{champion:54}} Malphite. * **Jungle:** {{champion:32}} Amumu, {{champion:24}} Jax, {{champion:20}} Nunu & Willump, {{champion:11}} Master Yi, {{champion:19}} Warwick. * **Mid:** {{champion:63}} Brand, {{champion:1}} Annie, {{champion:103}} Ahri, {{champion:45}} Veigar, {{champion:91}} Talon. * **Bot:** {{champion:22}} Ashe, {{champion:21}} Miss Fortune, {{champion:15}} Sivir, {{champion:110}} Varus, {{champion:18}} Tristana. * **Support:** {{champion:89}} Leona, {{champion:111}} Nautilus, {{champion:25}} Morgana, {{champion:267}} Nami, {{champion:117}} Lulu, {{champion:99}} Lux, {{champion:16}} Soraka, {{champion:37}} Sona. While I tried to only choose simpler champs. You'll find that some of them are much harder compared to others and they require a completely different playstyle. Please also note that some champions can go to many lanes. For example, Brand and Lux can go both mid and support which gives you more flexibility with a reduced pool of champs. Hope that helps!
This is exactly the kind of thing I was hoping for. Thank you. However, I am not sure who all the pictures are. If you could write down the names that would be brilliant. Thank you.
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Shamose (EUW)
: You said I am not a nice person. That's clearly insulting to me.
Incorrect. You are not being a nice person so I am stating facts. Please learn this.
Shamose (EUW)
: Come on now, you don't have to resort to insulting others to get your point across. I have reported your comment and screenshotted it.
I do not make insult. You must learn what this is before you speak yes. Now go bed. Is late for you yes.
Shamose (EUW)
: Yeah I was so bad for the community that I had to be removed from the forums for about an hour.
Yes. You are not nice person.
Shamose (EUW)
: Welcome to the game, here is the truth. Deal with it.
It is okay that you delete your comment. I already report it and I also make a screenshot of it. You are very bad for community.
Shamose (EUW)
: ***
You are proof Riot does not care. If Riot cares you are not member of this community. This is not way to welcome new player.
Shamose (EUW)
: These missions are here to celebrate the start of the new ranked season. They aren't supposed to be for new players.
This is very unfair and isolates many players. Why do Riot not care about new players?
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