: That is nice, but you don't give a reason now why the chat should be exist. For now, you just giving the exactly examples why it should be removed. Plus there is an another solution for this, as i mentioned earlier in other threads. why is there no button ''remove chat''. All chats will be dissabled from the start of the game( i don't have to mute everytime to typing /mute all). or even in champion select everyone can be muted for me. Chat dissabled = always proved you never be banned for chat and it will focus people more to not everytime to type everything while you playing ( more focus)
No need to talk with that guy, Maiku. He is defending toxic behaviour all over the boards since days for some reason.
: Yea, you're not encountering the same 9 other people every night you play. Gl on convincing anybody about that actually being the case. Enlarged block-list: Problem solved. Causes work and possibly other problems, the status quo is fine. Why put energy in something thats not neccesary. but that doesn't mean I want to read the mental garbage of toxic players. You won't get out of that completely all the time. Gl on dealing with that. And being unwilling probably is more of being uncapable of dealing with it. That is indeed not normal. That wasn't even a toxic statement by me, just you unwilling to be honest with yourself. "There is no reason for Riot to listen to anything you say, it's their game, not yours." See above, the status quo. If it ain't broke don't fix it. From what I gather its a personal problem. I don't talk out of Riot's name. I'm talking out of common sense. But i'll be honest with you, that never works well on a board. "How comes you are being toxic now?" "Please just don't response to any posts if you have no clue what you are talking about anyway. ;-)" Yea. It's personal issues and self disilusion. No you don't encounter the same people every time. No you can not deal with the slightest of what you perceive of as negativity, and are hiding it behind not wanting to. (Don't worry, we all have days like that, most people just don't ask, suggest or demand others should solve that issue for them.) No you aren't willing to actually put in the slightest amount of effort. No Riot is not obliged to help you out on your personal flaws and issues. They literally aren't obliged to you about nearly anything. No I do not speak for Riot, but it's all rather common sense and not hard to observe. No you definately aren't the person that's the problem, if you complain about toxicity but start stinging as much as the thing you don't want to deal with.
Yea, you're not encountering the same 9 other people every night you play. Gl on convincing anybody about that actually being the case. - Never said that. Gl on convincing anybody you know how to read. Causes work and possibly other problems, the status quo is fine. Why put energy in something thats not neccesary. - What are you even talking? You are not working for Riot, so don't bark any problems you have no clue of - that's just embarrassing. "There is no reason for Riot to listen to anything you say, it's their game, not yours." See above, the status quo. If it ain't broke don't fix it. From what I gather its a personal problem. I don't talk out of Riot's name. I'm talking out of common sense. But i'll be honest with you, that never works well on a board. - The Riot support just told me that I can make any suggestions on the boards, rather they're read by any Riot member or not. But your motives on replying here are quite mysterious. "Yea. It's personal issues and self disilusion." - Yea. I hope you get some help. (Don't worry. You're probably not the only one as far as I recognized the League community so far.)
ejpon (EUNE)
: I highly doubt that they insult you without reason.
Yea, because this community is quite friendly usually, such as you dude lmao. Flaming people for playing bad is no reason, flaming people for maybe not even understanding their decisions ain't a reason, actually flaming is never reasonable, that's also why people get chat restrictions. ;-) Besides I also block everyone who flames other people too, doesn't even need to be me. Anyway, after this my dialogue with you is over, because you're only here to trashtalk. Good bye.
: > [{quoted}](name=twA Divine,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=EysO8MhX,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2018-01-11T18:28:36.552+0000) > > So the system makes errors and Riots statements are not 100% accurate and reliable. I just wonder, what else might not be 100% as they say. Or what other kind of errors there could be. But well, it probably isn't our players issue to question these kinds of questions. Nothing would have happened to this case unless this player had not made two threads here on the boards - and the usual response to every one of these kind of threads is "nothing can be done to them from the boards - use ingame report" Well apparently Board threads HAVE a chance to make something happen and well, how well did the ingame reporting function?
> [{quoted}](name=I LoserSupreme I,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=EysO8MhX,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-11T18:35:54.886+0000) > > I just wonder, what else might not be 100% as they say. Or what other kind of errors there could be. But well, it probably isn't our players issue to question these kinds of questions. > I am pretty sure that the all famous "1 report is the same 9 reports" is one of these things not really accurate. Seems like they're telling you this to calm and all the players are just repeating it like parrots. I've only seen report success so far when the player was really reported several times for the same thing.
Smerk (EUW)
: You'll get random ward skin or emote instead
> [{quoted}](name=Smerk,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=1rMJAVRj,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-01-11T18:14:00.271+0000) > > You'll get random ward skin or emote instead Source?
: Are you sure? Would make sence if you got a permanent shard that can be upgraded for free when unlocking the champion. This is how this stuff normaly work, it is not the same as a mystery gift.
Yes, you get the champion if you don't own the skin. But that's actually also told by some Riot dude in the release video.
nesfir (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Aezander,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=MUv3om02,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-13T09:15:02.790+0000) > > **This** logic. **Stating** facts is saying "*You played this and that wrong*". Saying "*You suck noob*" is simply an insult. w/e i dont rly care much aobut other i just play my game, but if a garbage fails 2 seen he got caried , then he cant complain he's not climbing... everything seams to be an insult these days, WHO CARES of some random guy flaming.... ps. got bigger issues NET been sucking dck lately.
Spoken like a real toxic fella. But I am also quite sure about what kind of player you are when I see your English...
ejpon (EUNE)
: I've honestly never ever seen a player who would try to add me again after i deny it. If you made them THAT angry, there might be something wrong with you...
With me? So you wanna say if people insult you in a game it's you having the mental issues? I don't even know how to repsonse to the amount of garbage you're posting here, neither I understand why you are writing here at all since you have actually nothing to say to the topic.
: >Because they gonna be automatically muted in future games Chances of you encountering them again are fairly slim, barring certain circles of ELO. Ignore lobby chat and /mute all in game. Problem solved. But if you can't handle a single remark from a random person you'll never see again...muting them and being on your merry way... Then I think you might have some fragility/ ego / emotional, issues that won't be solved with an expanded block list. Get some help, thats not normal. >Also .. there is no reason to limit the block list. It should be the player's decision who he wants to talk with, not riots. There is no reason for Riot to listen to anything you say, it's their game, not yours. Thats a really shitty thing to say, but I feel you need to be pointed out how large your sense of entitlement over a non problem is. Or in which in worst case you can have an influence on being your own solution.
"Chances of you encountering them again are fairly slim, barring certain circles of ELO." Well, I am encountering a lot of toxic players for several times, also because I usually play at night. "Ignore lobby chat and /mute all in game. Problem solved." Enlarged block-list: Problem solved. "Then I think you might have some fragility/ ego / emotional, issues that won't be solved with an expanded block list. Get some help, thats not normal." How comes you are being toxic now? It's not about not being able to handle anything, but that doesn't mean I want to read the mental garbage of toxic players. Can I handle Star Wars: The Last Jedi? Yes. Do I want to see it again? Hell, no. "There is no reason for Riot to listen to anything you say, it's their game, not yours." What are you even talking here? This boards ARE for player suggestions aswell. How do you even dare to talk in Riot's name? lmao Please just don't response to any posts if you have no clue what you are talking about anyway. ;-)
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: Did you actually manage to reach block list limit?
sirDarts (EUW)
: Just remove some of those who were sitting there for a long time? There is a high chance of one of the following: 1) They have already stopped playing. 2) They were banned. 3) They are in a completely different MMR than you. So there is no reason to keep people there forever.
I would, but the thing is, that the block-list order is alphabetical. Means I simply don't know who is on it for how long. Already thought about the same solution here, but thanks.
: Why would you need to block toxic people? Serves no purpose, unless they're actively spamming friend requests (which doesn't happen that often at all).
Because they gonna be automatically muted in future games, even lobbys and I honestly don't want to read their garbage over and over again. Toxic people rarely change their behaviour. The bad thing about muting people is that you already read their insults before you can actually do anything against it. Also .. there is no reason to limit the block list. It should be the player's decision who he wants to talk with, not riots.
ejpon (EUNE)
: Don't add them to your friends, then?
Obvious someone had to reply with bullshit. I am not adding them, but I also don't want their friendrequests all the time. Also it doesn't change the fact all the other points are still annoying, but why do I even need to say that? Probably because you're trying to troll.
Rioter Comments
: 6 games
"I mean.. if someone kills you, like legit outplay, saying "ez" is ok" .. Say wha'?
Bugaboo (EUW)
: Struggling to Jungle :(
People will also flame you when you actually know how to jungle. It's either the jungle or the support you lost the game for.
: Way I see it is this: Normal Blind Pick: Go nuts, play whatever you like. Normal Draft Pick: Essentially practicing against live opponents, trying out different things, learning mechanics and nuances of a particular champ, even trying different builds and comps. This is where you go to get better. ARAM: Just go with the flow and have fun, don't mind the toxic tryharders, they probably just got dumpstered in ranked Ranked: Pick your best, play your best, even if that best is something off meta. If it works, use it, if it's cheese, abuse it. Play to win at all costs (don't be a cheating script using scumbag though nobody likes a cheater and you're just booking yourself a one way ticket to permaban), even if it means cheesing it with Freelo Champs constantly. So yes, it's "fine" when losing in normals, it's fine when losing in ranked, you can't win everything otherwise you'd be a world champ and they'd be hailing you as the best player ever. Let's be honest, none of us are.
Abusing certain champions / mechanics and cheating is pretty much the same for me. After all if ranked or not, it's still a game so you should try to have fun and not forcing a diamond boarder. You can't buy stuff with these diamonds anyway.
: > [{quoted}](name=MirirPaladin,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=ZQEcTbV9,comment-id=000000020000,timestamp=2017-12-17T11:37:16.502+0000) > > going karma+sona is plain trolling. i went double tank bot once and we actually did pretty well but only because we were actually trying to make it work (and i was urgot so i was kinda an adc) sona and karma don't have high damage output so were no match for a regular adc It's not punishable anyway. There's no such thing as a troll pick as far as the honor code is concerned. Even the infamous {{champion:27}} support was banned not because of {{champion:27}}, but because it's player was prone to left his ADC alone in lane, which is considered trolling if your ADC is not informed of that before the game and agree.
Singed support ain't banned at all lmao. I am actually playing it vs. specific supports (yes, in ranked) and it works out quite well. You can support with whatever you feel like and no one can punish you for that.
: about re-rolling skins
I asked myself the same question. And for some reason sometimes, very rarely, it is how you say you want it. I re-rolled skin shards several times. Mostly I get the re-rolled skin automatically and "have to live with it", but I suddenly also managed to re-roll and got a Caitlyn skin which I was able to re-roll again, because it was in my loot as a permanent.
: Why do you care?
Why do you care why I care? Infinite loop.
: No but that's where you try new things, you learn how build said champ and how good it works in situations. This is high plat/diamond adapting to new champs and runes should much easier and faster. Plus most new builds and how to play comes from pro players.
That's why I said trying stuff in normals with success doesn't mean it has to have the same success in ranked, because everyone is trying out new stuff in normals. Means, the only way to find out if whatever you thought about might work, you have to test it in a ranked to be sure. And besides that: No, builds are usually not developed by pro players. There is also a very long statement by pro players saying that they get most their ideas from non-professional players. Afterwards everyone copies from the pro, but that's not where it came from.
: Go try new things in normal not ranked games. That's not an excuse to destroy other players games.
New runes, new opportunities. Not everything you kill normals with will work in ranked aswell.
Teejoon (EUW)
: Depending on how hardcore they want to do stuff they could probably do shit loads that would require a lot of work to just play a for a smurf. Here are some things they could check: * IP-address * Your location * The hardware you use * The BIOS-version * You key presses patterns * Your mouse movement patterns The first 5 are pretty much just stuff that checks if it's reasonable that it might be the same PC for several accounts since that would be a big red flag that it might be a smurf. The last 2 they could probably do stuff with since you will play in a way and your friend in another. They could probably skip the 5 first items since it would be quiet easy to fix. Like, use a VPN and another PC. Since a phone number is anyone playing a smurf needs 2 SIM-cards with different numbers, but it's easy to get. The last 2 are however much harder to disguise and they probably have stuff like these. Banning knows VPN IPs might also be a option so that people can't hide behind a VPN as easy to play in the tournaments.
Did they mention any of these ideas or are you just coming up with them? Because they all don't sound like something Riot would actually do in my opinion. Even tho that's some interesting points.
Muuaahh (EUNE)
: Because the thing that comes out of their, you know what. IS LOOSE
Baki (EUNE)
: I am not the best at English(especially prepositions) but isn't "loose" the opposite of "tight"??????? {{sticker:cass-cry}}
Sexy Hoe (EUNE)
: Wow thats weird.
Teejoon (EUW)
: First of all, it doesn't exactly work that easy. Riot takes more into account, probably stuff like how much have you been playing together with the players in your team and how you perform in all 5v5 games. Someone might be Gold 5 to get rewards in ranked, but then only plays normal games where he/she would be good enough to be in Plat/Diamond. And nope, Tier 3 isn't that. I was in a Tier 4 team, we where 2 plat III players, 1 gold IV, 1 gold V and 1 Silver II player. And Riot has plans for smurfs. But it's not all implemented to the beta I'd guess like on the Turkish server you had to provide a phone number for you acc I think. This beta was more to try out how they match people against each other (does it work good or bad?), how the load on the system is and technical stuff like that. Not to give the absolute best experience. It's called beta for a reason.
I don't doubt any of that, but my question was if someone already knows or might have an idea about how Riot planned to balance the smurfing on the tournament, since they said they have some tricks or possibilites to manage that.
ˉˉIˉˉ (EUW)
: As a german: Many people here think that lose, as in losing, is spelled loose because that's how we feel how it should be spelled according to its pronounciation. Additionally we have a word in german called "lose" which basically means the same as "loose" which makes this confusion even more likely.
Interesting theory tho. I am German too, but haven't seen it that way.
Saibbo (EUW)
: Tier 1 = diamonds/master/challengers. Tier 2 = 1-2 diamonds/plats/golds Tier 3 = 1-2 plats/gold/silvers
That might be the actual Riot plan, but that doesn't work for smurfs.
Altiverse (EUNE)
: Teh grammer nazis are on the *loose*, butt don't *lose* hop, WII SHELL WIN!
: im a native english speaker but for some reason since i was little till now i always say "loose" but then autocorrect changes it to "lose" but when im hand writing i always say loose, its a habit
But do you know how it started when you were little?
Mada (EUW)
: I believe they're trying to be cute or something. Ignore them and report them at the end of the game :-D
Haha :P If that was reportable we would have 90% less players tho.
: I would just assume it's a bad translation, or english speakers with awful language skills. Same reason people Say "trollers" instead of trolls, or "top line" instead of top lane.
Well, I don't expect people to write perfectly. English ain't my first language either, but that word is almost never written "lose" while I actually haven't seen "top line" or "trollers" once so far. :P
Rioter Comments
PH45 (EUNE)
: Will my unused tickets continue over to the next time Clash is available?
That's how I understood that too. Bought several tickets, but only used one.
Rioter Comments
: you can have fun and still not ruin 30 minutes of someone else's life.
If people "ruin your life" by playing video games you have a lot to think about. The unranked mode is to have some chilled games where you can try out several stuff. Just because people are picking champions they have not much experience with doesn't mean they ain't trying to win the game, but winning is not the main goal of a game, having fun is. I actually don't understand the people who are tryharding their mastery 7 metapick-mains in unranked.
Toxic Shaco (EUNE)
: Need tips on how not to be toxic
I'd suggest you change your summoner name before.
: > The example was to make it even easier for you to get an idea of what I mean, but literally refuse to understand it, so you should better not post anything here anymore. Why shouldn't I post anything here anymore? As far as I'm concerned you can't come up with anything substantial and thus try to make me stop commenting. Your example was a meager attempt to justify your vigilantism, although it's not even the slightest bit applicable to the gaming environment of a League match, therefor it served no purpose other than drawing me into a line of arguments where self defence obviously is warranted. The fact that **YOU REFUSE** to answer my simple question suggests, that you apparently can't think of anything that makes reprimanding a negative player during a match beneficial. > Again you're preassuming that I would randomly report people. If I do, they ARE toxic, stop being a do-gooder lmao. Yes, I encounter multiple toxic players in every match. Man, you act like this is actually your game and you feel offended by what I write here. How old are you to ask me for "proofs"? I think you don't know what a "do-gooder" actually is... and don't worry, I'm not offended. You make it sound like asking for evidence for unlikely claims is something bad, which it definitely isn't. Proof is essential for every statement in any part of life. Especially since it's highly unlikely that you encounter a toxic person in EVERY. SINGLE. MATCH. > Funny that people who actually read what you're posting here think you're a wannabe Riot support. I'm sure they do. //sarcasm
Why shouldn't I post anything here anymore? As far as I'm concerned you can't come up with anything substantial and thus try to make me stop commenting. Your example was a meager attempt to justify your vigilantism, although it's not even the slightest bit applicable to the gaming environment of a League match, therefor it served no purpose other than drawing me into a line of arguments where self defence obviously is warranted. The fact that YOU REFUSE to answer my simple question suggests, that you apparently can't think of anything that makes reprimanding a negative player during a match beneficial. - The reason is that I already told you a few times now and it is senseless to talk with a wall. You don't want to understand it, so you can also stop writing. At least I won't respond anymore, just so you know. You're saying causing a problem and reacting to one is the same and no reason to see it another way nor act to it in another way. That is actually enough for me to realize that you have no clue about anything or you are simply trying to troll here since several posts. Both a waste of time for me. I think you don't know what a "do-gooder" actually is... and don't worry, I'm not offended. You make it sound like asking for evidence for unlikely claims is something bad, which it definitely isn't. Proof is essential for every statement in any part of life. Especially since it's highly unlikely that you encounter a toxic person in EVERY. SINGLE. MATCH. - I know what a do-gooder is, but maybe you don't. Nevertheless you probably wouldn't even recognize that you are one if you knew what it means and I am sure you are offended, but that's something you have to find your own solution for it. I don't record my games, so I don't know what you mean by proof. Yesterday was a good example tho, I had literally two different people in a row calling team members a "b*tch" for losing lanes, a game after that I had a toplaner who was already tilted by another game and told everyone to "suck his d*ck". Shortly after that I was in a match with a team who wasn't toxic, therefor the enemy jungler got flamed quite a lot during the game. This is how my (and many other peoples) daily games look like. I guess you're either lying to yourself or always muting everyone from the beginning when you say you don't have players like these regularly. Nevertheless I am sure you will just reply here with "I don't believe you." and keep trying to act like a kid, but I don't care, as I said, I won't response to you anymore unless you stop trolling in a post which meant to be serious.
: You keep repeating your senseless arguments. How about you actually provide some proof and examples for your claims? Why should vigilantism be beneficial? > If you want to tell me that if you get randomly beaten up by strangers without a reason and punch back is the same as you walking down the streets and looking out for a victim [...] How does this even translate to a chat function of a game? The comparison of those two things is totally inadequate. > The reason I think that my reports or reports in general have way less effect than people here might think is because if they had one, this game wouldn't be so full of toxic players. Just because you perceive something as toxic, doesn't mean it's actually ban worthy. Also what do you mean by "this game wouldn't be so full of toxic players"? You make it sound like you encounter multiple toxic players in every match. That's just not true. Also I doubt you encounter "the same toxic fellas over and over again". Please show some proof that you're actually playing multiple times with the same toxic person. > Not to mention that you're offending by preasuming like that. Offence is taken, not given.
I keep repeating, because you don't understand it or you just don't want to, because you know you're wrong. The example was to make it even easier for you to get an idea of what I mean, but literally refuse to understand it, so you should better not post anything here anymore. Again you're preassuming that I would randomly report people. If I do, they ARE toxic, stop being a do-gooder lmao. Yes, I encounter multiple toxic players in every match. Man, you act like this is actually your game and you feel offended by what I write here. How old are you to ask me for "proofs"? I don't record my games, I can only tell you that I get the same people I just reported before in my games and that they were toxic and / or racist and that I of course reported them for that reason. You either have to trust me or we can end this conversation here, since I have no possibilities to "proof" you right now. You should better ask yourself what reason I would have to lie, since you ain't the Riot police and I don't need to convince you from anything. As I said, you see this whole topic in black and white. Funny that people who actually read what you're posting here think you're a wannabe Riot support.
: i want to discuss the chat restriction i just got because i think it was unfair
Ah, you're the kind of people who spam questionsmarks. No sympathy for you at all.
: I read it. But you gave no meaningful argument why vigilantism is beneficial and should receive a milder, if not no punishment at all. And you suppose your reports don't work 99% of the time based on... what? Your own perception? Not to mention you might report people at times without a legitimate reason, so those obviously shouldn't have an effect.
I am bored of repeating myself. Yes, there is a meaningful reason, since causing a problem and reacting to one ain't the same thing. You can translate that for every possible situation in your real life with the same results. If you want to tell me that if you get randomly beaten up by strangers without a reason and punch back is the same as you walking down the streets and looking out for a victim, you should search yourself a psychologist. This behaviour boards are really full of do-gooders, who see the world in black and white. Talking to the support and showing them screenshots of people writing racist stuff didn't help. I've already tried it, as I said before. The reason I think that my reports or reports in general have way less effect than people here might think is because if they had one, this game wouldn't be so full of toxic players. Game's release been a while and I don't see any improvements in the behaviour of people. Since the honor system they just start the chat with "gl hf" before flaming their teammates for bad plays in minute 10 - that's the only difference. If my reports would have any effect I wouldn't see the same toxic fellas over and over again in my games. They are not banned, they didn't recieve Chat Restrictions. Not to mention that you're offending by preasuming like that. No, I report people for bad behaviour if they caused the negative atmosphere, not bad plays or personal feelings as everyone else should too. Ridiculous enough that I even have to mention that. That's what I mean when I say do-gooder.
: to end up in silver 5 or bronze 1????If you are that decent win promos???
Creating a second account is no privilege for high elo players. Even tho I am against smurfs at all, but well..
: Is this a new trend?(not my main account?)
Putting people into different leagues quickly escalated in this game. Somehow players start to think that they're worth more than others now and therefor can decide to play the lane they demand if they get autofilled. One of the big issues in League of Legends.
: Flamed for carrying? (I dont get it either)
The word "killsteal" is something invented by low elo and only idiots are using it. You know how a mobster in real life would call it when you're the one who has to kill somebody? Dirty work.
: This isn't self-defence, but vigilantism. Also you probably know very well, that insulting, flaming and other negative behaviour, even if labeled as "self defence", isn't allowed under any circumstances. Your tools at hand, when becoming a victim to misbehaving players, are to report those players, or even create a support ticket.
I know that it isn't allowed under any circumstances, that's exactly why I made this post. Maybe you didn't read it. And no, creating a support ticket doesn't help at all - I already tried it, because I wanted to be sure that players will get their punishment, but the support just told me that they can't punish people when I sent them a screenshot of the toxic behaviour. Either my report works or (as I still suppose) doesn't have any effect at all in 99% of the cases.
: Not really a fan of this but whatever you need to win a videogame
Haesperea (EUW)
: Mindgames to increase your winchance
I am pretty sure that's nothing we all didn't know before. It's like you would make a post about using {{summoner:4}} over walls worked pretty well for you.
: Why are Zed players such arogant assholes
The prefered champions always kinda fit to the personalities of players. You will probably also see more friendly supporters than in other roles.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
I chat rarely too, but all that has nothing to do with my post. You are simply wrong when you think causing a problem and reacting to one is the same - it is not. It might work for you since you ain't reacting at all when you come to that situation, but I don't want to read racist stuff nor toxicity, most of the time I mute these people, sometimes I don't. However, I start to repeat myself here, so since you are not getting my point or maybe just don't want to get it, fine, but there is no need for me to response anymore.
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