Tomerarenai (EUNE)
: Matchmaking
I'm tired of having to carry or lose. I mean really it's as if the system gives me bad teammates to compensate for me playing good at low ranks. http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/3063214973/227815716?tab=overview
House x33 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Scrinnid,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=NhAMkpQz,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-02-14T11:04:31.796+0000) > > it's:"get smurf or get smurfed"at this moment, since riot doesnt condemn it Complete bullshit.
I was plat like a year ago... so I am a smurf! Yet silver games are either too easy or too hard.
Sefi (EUNE)
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7sG8cw50mQ
Rioter Comments
Magneset (EUW)
: Cant wait to see the QQ topic about you getting banned for being toxic and how its everyone elses fault but never your own.
I was plat 2 years ago, have had a gold account since and yet silver is a struggle with some of these games now.... I either go like 10/1/6 or something or I get some scrub ruins bot lane... Problem is people who choose champs like soraka against caitlyn/thresh or something where they are absolutely useless, soak up xp, result in me not being able to farm because they provide no pressure and ultimately hold back my lane when I could be carrying the game.
: I'm not banned... learn to read.
I think maybe someone is jealous cause I get s+ on ez and they feed.
CoopA826 (EUW)
: {{item:3070}} {{item:3070}} {{item:3070}} {{item:3070}} {{item:3070}} Enjoy your ban I guess. U mad?
: Quite frankly I'd rather not play at all than wait 20 minutes for a 1 sided shitty game
What are the downvotes for? lmfao No one is challenging it they just come in like ghosts and downvote me cause they prob do the same shit ahahah there are no good players left on this game anymore.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
It's a legit item if your not a bronze scrub who denies 5 creeps for every 1 you hit. Did I mention he was also feeding? I'm supposed to just keep playing as if I stand a chance of winning even though I know with 100% certainty that the game is lost within the first 5 minutes. It's getting old... I wouldn't care if it wasn't ranked and I didn't have to wait like 10 mins just to play in the first place... but 20 min low priority que as well... that is a joke! No one with the slightest bit of a life will waste time like that.
: Quite frankly I'd rather not play at all than wait 20 minutes for a 1 sided shitty game
No one got anything to say? I'll 1v1 anyone who thinks I deserve the punishment lol
Rioter Comments
RoadCoaster (EUNE)
: Leaverbuster triggers automaticly when a player leaves/afks in a game. Riot cant lift your lower prio que, you should contact riots technical support about that problem. The only thing i can do here is to link an article posted by riot, theres a download link at the bottom of the page called game.cfg. Try to download that and replace ur config with that. https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752684-Low-Frame-Rate-FPS-Troubleshooting
I worked around it by setting borderless window mode to my screen resolution and it looks exactly the same as before now. No idea why it won't work in fullscreen though, not had the same issue before.
: "input not supported"
It's still not working?? I set the resolution to the same settings my mac was already at.... anyone?? (I joined a game thinking since I know for a fact my monitor can handle the res I would be fine) The most annoying thing is I can see the game for maybe half a second before the screen blacks out.
Rioter Comments
Spearki (EUW)
: This is a 9day old comment before any of the "fixes" idk what you're trying to even say?
Not sure why that would be hard to understand what I said. Win 10 out of 10... bronze 5??? I can almost guarantee the "fix" is not based on performance.
Spearki (EUW)
: your solo/duo que mmr do affect flex a little bit but almost not at all it only really affects high diamond + mostly if you go 10/0 you could be placed into plat5-1 but if you go 4/6 you might be placed in bronze tbh the system is a bit hard to tell how it places people right now as solo /duo que mmr means a little but but not enough to affect placements that much. i have seen plat people go 3/7 and get placed in bronze 4 i have also seen silver 3 ppl go 10/0 and get plat so it's more about your win/loss then your solo que mmr. ( note) matchmaking gonna be terrible because everyone is unranked you might get against plat 1 in one game and bronze another game etc
Your rating does affect it... there are plenty of reports of new accounts winning all 10 placement games and getting put at bronze 5. I won 7 and got the same treatment.. then a few days later win 1 game and go straight to silver 5. It's pretty badly structured by the look of it.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
It would be; theres no doubt about that, but it wouldn't do anything to harm a players gameplay. The only way it could be abused is the same way the chat/report system is already abused... yet it would have less impact on the players on the receiving end. If every time someone flames they are muted, then they would soon stop and just play the game. If premade players mute the random guy without cause.. the guy being muted benefits from not having to deal with a toxic team.
candoodle (EUW)
: I'm curious, how is it exactly you want the devs to fix the community other than not punish players who flame? I mean I spose they could introduce some kind of queue where you select your preferred role before queueing alas the technology just isn't there yet
Easy.. vote to mute from chat. It has no consequences for anyone and solves the problem.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
You contradict yourself with this post... if they didn't want to be flamed they would use the mute button. At least a part of them enjoys either seeing the player punished or the argument itself.
S0kaX (EUNE)
: 1. In my opinion ( maybe my luck is different ) I enjoy playing with lvl 30 than with smurfs because I get less flame. 2 A solution for you: Draft. I've played more than 30 games and never got a troll because he didn't get a specific lane.
I've played more than 3000 games and there are more trolls than good players.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Heres a better idea.... sort it out in game... have a vote to mute a player. No more comments... no more flame.. no more need to report.
Larry (EUNE)
: Don't forget you are (or were) a part of this community.
I've played this game for about 4 years. As far as gameplay goes... it's still my favourite game. But about 80% of games just aren't fun atm.. Even most wins are boring cause they are too easy. Playing 5 games to enjoy 1 is not a good tradeoff of time and effort. Game has gone downhill since they updated map graphics.
: People are missing my point here... I'm pissed that my lane was stolen sure... but what really gets me is that the other scumbag players wanted to report ME! The vayne was flaming all fucking game... feeding and generally just being useless... and these people want to report me! Maybe the other guy on our team was his premade... its likely... but the guy on the enemy team wasn't and he reported me for explaining that I called and picked adc before the vayne made any pick saying I was "unsportsmanlike"! This is the typical attitude of players in this game.. and playing it just makes me frustrated that I'm wasting my time playing a game where I have to cooperate with narcissistic pieces of shit who just want to satisfy their ego by punishing players better than they are with the report system. There is a saying that the people you spend time with have the biggest influence on you...well if thats true and you spend long on this game..... yea...
And yes,.. it is the dev's fault... because they don't fix this abuse of the report system... you play jungle and if you get this kind of player they will flame you till you respond then report you. You die to a better player... same again.. you play adc and the other guy didn't want supp (even in ranked you get people who choose fill and then cry because it gives them supp) I think I've made my point... The other thing I just cannot get my head around is why they punish players for typing shit to each other and then provide a mute button. I mean if someone genuinely finds what you say offensive.. muting takes what? 2 seconds at most? if someone chooses NOT to mute your flame... they are clearly not that hurt by it and WANT to see it... they get off on the argument.. otherwise they would mute you! When they don't the game stops being 5 v 5 and starts to become a flaming match among allies, where the ego junkies are making up their mind who they will report for "making them lose" All the punishment does is motivate trolls as an extra bonus they can get other players punished in their efforts to piss people off! If a player is going to troll.. they will do it regardless... if the chat system is off bounds... they find another way! If feeding is out of the question... they jus ttry to make other players do badly and wind them up about it.. this is what I'm talking about... easily fixable... but the dev's couldn't care less clearly unless of course their target demographic is 10 year olds from privileged countries.
: This community is pathetic.
People are missing my point here... I'm pissed that my lane was stolen sure... but what really gets me is that the other scumbag players wanted to report ME! The vayne was flaming all fucking game... feeding and generally just being useless... and these people want to report me! Maybe the other guy on our team was his premade... its likely... but the guy on the enemy team wasn't and he reported me for explaining that I called and picked adc before the vayne made any pick saying I was "unsportsmanlike"! This is the typical attitude of players in this game.. and playing it just makes me frustrated that I'm wasting my time playing a game where I have to cooperate with narcissistic pieces of shit who just want to satisfy their ego by punishing players better than they are with the report system. There is a saying that the people you spend time with have the biggest influence on you...well if thats true and you spend long on this game..... yea...
: "Report calling is punishable. The number of reports some1 receives does not matter, one is enough."
Yet if someone picks Vayne support after you call and pick adc in champ select, your the one likely to get reported for getting annoyed at them. Every patch this game seems to get more targeted at the mentally challenged.
Rioter Comments
Mztah (EUNE)
: I think the matchmaking system searches games with the following logic: - 5 games against players lower elo than you - 5 games against players higher elo than you Not necessarily in a row. This would explain the nature of the games, stomp or get stomped. Very few games are evenly matched.
I guess they try to make it fair. Just wish there was a little more than win/lose to go on though. Like if you die a lot you're teamed up with people same rating who also die a lot.
Rioter Comments
: The Mute button allows you to mute a person if it starts getting annoying or you have difficulties to concentrate. It is not an excuse to allow toxic people to behave toxic.
Look this goes 2 ways... It makes me laugh that you all defend banning someone for flaming... but then what is the point in the mute button? If you can just mute them why would you need to punish someone for something that the player taking insult to it can avoid by taking action themselves? If a player is flaming and then gets flamed back and they don't just mute the other guy... they clearly are playing this game for an argument. The system is pathetic.
: In Riot's TOS they state they can ban anyone they want w/o reason. If it was a straight ban without any ranked bans ever, it was done manually and there must have been a reason to so. Even if you speak the truth, just contact Riot instead of going onto the forums. They will then look into the case and judge it again. No-one here will never look at something from a neutral point of view, they'll always be on the anti-toxicity side and never take someone's opinion into consideration. It's funny isn't it; everyone here is on the side of anti-toxicity, but it does not really represent well into the game itself.
Contacting them at this point would mean nothing, they uninstalled the game and no longer want to play. I only thought of posting here cause of a troll from my last game.
Silisa (EUNE)
: Every League player on this good Earth knows what kind of language can get them punished. Those who don't soon find out when they get a chat restriction, and at that point they have plenty of time to change their behavior, so don't give me that "_he was just joking with friends and got reported and banned even though he wasn't really toxic!_" - if you know the system doesn't differentiate between a joke and an insult, have some sense to not use insults as jokes. You cannot compare real life to an online game account. A perma ban is not like going to jail, it's not like getting a death sentence, it just isn't anything like any punishment in the actual world. Humans make mistakes. I can't recall the number of times I voted to pardon a toxic player just because I emphasized with his circumstances. _He just called that other player a useless piece of crap that ever existed, but that other player died 12 times in a 20 minute game, so I can't really blame him. Better pardon._
"Humans make mistakes. I can't recall the number of times I voted to pardon a toxic player just because I emphasized with his circumstances. He just called that other player a useless piece of crap that ever existed, but that other player died 12 times in a 20 minute game, so I can't really blame him. Better pardon." This is ridiculous... you pardoned a player for giving shit to someone for playing badly... my friend got banned for giving shit to people who were bullying him.
Silisa (EUNE)
: The automated system handles all reports equally. Words and sentences typically used for flame are universal, so the system always detects them. Again, nobody ever got banned for flaming in one or two games, which is what you are claiming has happened to your friend, and that is why I can safely assume that your friend is lying. Do not mix real life law breaking with in-game rules breaking.
"The automated system handles all reports equally" This would indicate that if someone make s a joke containing these strings of text... and then feeds a few kills unintentionally, gets reported for playing badly... they are gonna get punished. Sorry but if it's not good enough for real life laws then why is it good enough to delete a persons account? The consequences aren't as harsh but the time people spent levelling up to 30... and climbing the ranks... that has to hurt... there no wonder he abandoned the game. You can't seriously tell me you honestly think that they use this system because it's accurate. Human judgement is crucial and you know it.
: > What is classed as a "good report"? > Certain words? > Is context taken into account? > How could an automated system take context into account? You asked 4 questions. I gave an answer to each. You then retracted and said that you were baiting the answer you wanted to hear. That is confirming your bias.
No it isn't.... I baited the right answer... not the answer I wanted to hear. There is a huge difference. Why the hell would you respond with what I want to hear if it's not the right answer? You make no sense at all. All those "4 question" were part of the same question... hopefully you are able to see that....
Silisa (EUNE)
: And what proof do you have, except someone's word for it, that they are telling the truth? That is simply untrue. Unless you have actual proof of that claim, I see no point in continuing this discussion.
Lol... Proof? What proof do you have that my friend was actually flaming? Other than an automated system that decides based on strings of text. It's a good job Riot don't run any police force.
: Or in other words, you wnated someone to confirm your bias. The fact that you just said that makes anything and everything you ever post mean nothing.
How is it bias? You admitted exactly what I asked? Am I wrong in thinking a machine cannot decrypt human emotion... don't make me laugh. Also ... how the hell did you come to that conclusion... I could easily predict what you would answer if all I said was "is it an automated system" I had to mention context because if not you would just say "yes but it looks for words that toxic people use" ... Which you say afterwards anyway as if that means anything after admitting that it cannot take into consideration context...
Eveninn (EUW)
: For how the behavior System works: Whenever someone gets reported, they get nudged towards the, indeed automated, System for it. After a certain amount of Report value is reached, the System will take a look at the Person in question. So the value of the reports doesn't matter at all, as if the System says 'this is not punishable' after, it won't be punished. While automated, this is something way more complex then a keyword filter or the likes, and for all I've seen, there are very very little false positives. Then it issues one of 4 punishment tiers, based on how serve the behavior was and their previous punishments: 10 game Chat restriction, 25 game Chat restriction, 2 weeks ban, permaban. I would be highly surprised if the system actually would conlude a permaban for one game without and previous punishments. :s ----------- > 1 of the players was there braggin "I know Riot staff" I feel like that's a pure bluff, from the Riot staff I know people generally have something better to do than listen to anyone who wants them to manually ban someone, let alone that I doubt most Riot employees would even be able to manually ban someone. x3 ------------- Are you sure that the ban was regarding toxicity? Maybe there was something else that happened to overlap. :s
I hope you're not implying that the automated system is capable of human like intelligence.... because that would be required to accurately decide whether the player was actually flaming... here is an example... "you are a fucking idiot" (flame) "lol you a fucking idiot" (joke aimed at a friend) And as far as the latter goes... yes all I saw was him responding to a set of racists... 2 minutes after the game... "your account has been permanently suspended"
Silisa (EUNE)
: I don't know how much experience you have on Boards, but 99.99% of players who complain about getting a perma ban for no reason are lying. I am talking about bans for toxicity here, mistakes can happen when related to other reasons for ban (hacks, payment issues, 3rd party programs).
Of course you think they are all lying... you perma ban people for responding twice in a year to bullies!
Silisa (EUNE)
: It is right, it is fair. Why? Because the rules are the same for everyone. There is 0 tolerance for toxic behavior, regardless of the reason behind it. You seem to be under the impression that this player was a quiet little lamb that wouldn't hurt a fly until the big bad premades got to him. Nobody gets perma banned for flaming in one game. A player has to show constant toxic behavior and complete disregard for the rules and warnings - received punishments (2 chat restrictions and a 14 day ban) before getting a permanent suspension. I found it. It doesn't normally happen. The reason it happened in this game is because that Diamond player queued up with a level 5 player as his premade - which screwed up the match making system.
I am under that impression because that is what I saw of his attitude. He never received a chat restriction.. just straight ban. Well at least thats what he says... and even if not I remember him saying he got a ban before (again this was after playing with toxic premades) and that was half a year ago.... Sorry if we have different idea's of what "constant toxic behaviour" is ... but twice in a year is not my idea of a problematic attitude.
: You asked multiple questions, I gave answers for each.
Nah I was just baiting the right answer to the question by presenting my question in a way that you couldn't shrug me off as a whiner.
Silisa (EUNE)
: I just did. Give me proof.
I just did. http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/2753687991/227815716?tab=overview Was a fun game... but this shouldn't happen should it?
: I'm not denying that he could have avoided it... I'm saying its not right... it's not justified and it does nothing for this community. My match history. Good enough for you?
http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/2753687991/227815716?tab=overview
: The long and short of it is; The system is automated. It looks for certain words, strings of text etc based on thousands and thousands of old chat logs. (How it does this exactly I am not sure). Context is NOT taken into consideration because an automated system cannot understand context. It's a flawed system in many ways. And it IS broken beyond all repair thanks to Riot Lyte (thankfully he's done a runner from Riot so they might fix the system [one can but hope]). A 'good report' would be a report that is warrented. So if someone is outright flaming then that's a good report. But, if a person isn't flaming then that would be a false report.
So basically you could have just said... "no context is not taken into consideration, so yes if you are reported by a toxic player after typing something typical of a flamer, you can be punished whether or not you were actually flaming" Thanks thats all I wanted to know.
Silisa (EUNE)
: > I saw someone permanently banned for nothing because a bunch of douchebags wound him/her up enough so that **they flamed** back. All that player had to do was mute the offending players and report them after the game. If he or she had muted the premade flamers, they would not have been triggered into flaming back, and whatever reports those premades made wouldn't have been viable. That player got banned because they consistently flamed in a large number of their games, not because they were the target of flame, nor because they were reported by premades. > They no longer play this game because of this, so **you have lost a positive player. ** Unless that player got matched with premades in every single game and were flamed in every single one, and they flamed back in every single one, I doubt it. Positive players mute and move on. Negative players can't wait to find a reason to flame. > you might wanna try fix your matchmaking too so that level 15 players aren't paired with diamond 4 players Do you have any records of this? Because I do not find it likely.
I'm not denying that he could have avoided it... I'm saying its not right... it's not justified and it does nothing for this community. My match history. Good enough for you?
: Perfectly. You never get a response because you must only make false report. Only if you make good report do you get told person is punished. And you got warning after your game coz you flamed. Please learn this before come cry on forum.
What is classed as a "good report"? Certain words? Is context taken into account? How could an automated system take context into account?
Eveninn (EUW)
: He had as much right to flame them as anyone has a right to flame anyone. Douchebags exist, but if it's Chat what they are using, that's what a mute button got implimented for. The system itself simply Looks at every induviduals Actions, that means in a game where all 5 People flame each other, all 5 will get punished. (well, most of the time People don't get punished for one single game, but all of them get flagged) It doesn't matter why you flamed, because there is no reason that justifies flaming in any way. It just matters if someone flamed. :s
The system is automated from what I've seen... probably to save money or some shit like that. They had perma ban within about 2 minutes of leaving the game (we were taking turns) I dunno about games before that but it was deffo that game that resulted in the ban... 1 of the players was there braggin "I know Riot staff"
Kissekotten (EUNE)
: All flaming is the same. If you are weak just mute them
Personally I couldn't care less if someone is flaming me... Ill take the piss if they do and normally they stop but why should someone be punished for getting baited into it.
: So what?? No one gonna address the diamond 4, level 15 matchup... aha
: Riot... You need to restrict reports from premade teams.
So what?? No one gonna address the diamond 4, level 15 matchup... aha
archerno1 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Chax Merry,realm=EUW,application-id=ETj6EdvQ,discussion-id=FdfsqJtZ,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-07-13T11:51:27.135+0000) > > Does that somehow take away from the fact that they got banned because a group of people bullied him into flaming? He didnt get banned because group bullied him into flaming. He got banned because HE WAS FLAMING. You cant be bullied into flaming.
He got banned because he responded... not because he was being toxic. Forgive me if I'm wrong but I thought the report system was in place to stop people ruining games.. Let's say YOU were in a game with 4 feeders... and they spend the entire game giving you shit... if you respond to them... would you deserve a permanent ban for satisfying their need to upset someone? Because thats the tone your giving here.
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