LEΟN (EUNE)
: Prety simple: he can just remove the chat completly from game's instalation files. He can find it on youtube.
I was thinking about that thks. I read something about that.
Doomley (EUW)
: I gave you facts and you give me bs. We are done talking. Have a good day.
Man radiology is a coplete different subfield. It is all fine dont take it personally but you cannot sumarize tourette in one paragraph, it goes beyond the tics. Keep studying to become a good doctor.
: If you are studying medicine and you wrote this I wouldn't want to be your patient. And no man radiography is radiography, it is all fine but that doesn't make you an expert. And no man your last description of tourette is wrong. Lost last exam?.
He probably plays better than most of the people who have commented in this post.
Doomley (EUW)
: >1st you don't know him I don't need to know him. >2nd you are ignorant and problably have not even study medicine in your whole life. I'm studying to become a radiographer which involves studying some medicine. I'm not ignorant because i do not claim things without knowing about them first. There is a lot of information out there and tourette syndrome does not affect writing. In about 70% of cases with tourette syndrome they also have ADHD. People with ADHD can have impulses which affect behavior when they are under stress which could explain words in the chat but you still can't blame tourette syndrome for swearing. In any case, as rough as it sounds, your friend should not be playing league. >he's been my friend since childhood and I know he's got potential to be a professional player Sorry to tell you but if we come to the conclusion that he also has ADHD (which is the only thing that would explain the impulses), he sadly doesn't have the potential to become a professional player because of lack of focus. Not to mention how the impulses could affect his teammates. Muting him permanently would help either because then he would probably just int with the impulse. >3rd yes insults don't are not limit to verbal situations. There is a problem with self control. I wont discuss this topic with somebody I don't and who I think knows nothing about this. Thks Yes, the impulses are limited to vocal expression and motor "tics". He can't control those tics but they are very short and do not have anything to do with typing. I know a lot more about the subject than you do and i'm beginning to think you are lying. No further discussion is needed.
If you are studying medicine and you wrote this I wouldn't want to be your patient. And no man radiography is radiography, it is all fine but that doesn't make you an expert. And no man your last description of tourette is wrong. Lost last exam?.
: No amount of fake empathy will fool me. Cmon, you even named yourself "ChronicSyndrome".... wtf
Exactly. That was my last attempt to try to explain people what was happening. I did create the account and give it to him in lvl 19 or 20 so he could jump all the bot, tutorial shit. I play in this server rarely (just normals) since I have 250 ms ping. I live in Montevideo and for some networking issues he has 350ms to play with me. So it is me the one who usually helps him in EUW.
: He repeats the same bulshit all his games.
We have tried weed while playing, this reduces a little the insults but makes him an incompetent palyer.
: Moreover his insults are always the same with some variants about spanish people.
: Man you are doing bad analogies and flawed generalizations. For instance when I play duo with him I can explain to other players the situation and he gets less reports. Usually if we end up winning people dont report him regardless of the level of toxicity ( He is either toxic winning or losing ). You are talking things about disabilities that I couldnt answer in a lol forum. I dont condemn you people is very ignorant about this issues. Thanks anyways.
Moreover his insults are always the same with some variants about spanish people.
: I am pretty sure that a person who is completely blind is never allowed to drive a car on his own. I didn't talk about any disability, I talked about being blind. I picked this example because this is a disability that makes it absolutely impossible to drive a car (on your own) without harming others; pretty similar to your friend who, apparently, is completely unable to play without flaming. But okay, let's do what you wish and move to disabilities that do no completely hinder someone from doing something. Is that true for your friend? If he got permabanned 15 times it looks very strongly that there seems to be nothing that stops him from flaming. So does it even make sense to NOT think in a "all or nothing" way here? Apparently your friend is completely unable to stop flaming, not just partly. And if I am wrong about that, if there is a way to stop your friend from flaming....isn't that already the answer to your question? What exactly are you looking for in this thread? What kind of solution do you have in mind? Let me clarify my previous post and make clear what kind of solution is definitely NOT possible: Your friend will not be allowed to harm other players unpunished just because he is disabled. So if that is what you had in mind, that's definitely not going to happen ever. If that's not what you have in mind, what kind of "solution" did you think about?
Man you are doing bad analogies and flawed generalizations. For instance when I play duo with him I can explain to other players the situation and he gets less reports. Usually if we end up winning people dont report him regardless of the level of toxicity ( He is either toxic winning or losing ). You are talking things about disabilities that I couldnt answer in a lol forum. I dont condemn you people is very ignorant about this issues. Thanks anyways.
LazySlav (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=ChronicSyndrome,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=x3EaY2uo,comment-id=00040001,timestamp=2017-07-16T09:35:19.913+0000) > > Cool but my post was serious. Thank you. Yes, well. Then your friend should not play games where he can get banned like this. Sorry but that is truth
He will play the game dont worry I will try to find a solution. ( geez 5 minutes and people just giving a damn that's a new record ). I am trying to find a solution not 2 problems. Thank you for reading the post anyways. Have a nice day.
: But I do know.
Man it's fine we live in a society of cheaters not only in lol but in everything. I see your point dont worry and I would be like you if I wouldnt know my friend. Have a good day.
archerno1 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=ChronicSyndrome,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=x3EaY2uo,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2017-07-16T09:39:25.402+0000) > > He does not hate jews nor anybody. So no. Please dont troll my post thank you. Its not troll. Point is, like in that Cartman episode, everyone could use Tourette as excuse for being toxic.
I understand you. I don't watch south park but I see your point.
: Ok, let's just ignore why exactly your friend is flaming and what condition is causing it. Let's just say it's psychological sickness without defining it further. Now let me explain the problem with an analogy. Imagine there is a guy who drives a car and he loses control and kills 3 people. After the accident it turns out that this man is disabled: He is blind. Would you say it's not his fault that he killed all those people because he couldn't have possibly seen them? Of course not, because as a blind person he should never even have driven a car. Driving a car when you are blind is extremely reckless and irresponsible, not to mention illegal. So of course he is fully responsible for those 3 deaths. It is his fault and there is absolutely no excuse for it. He knew that he would risk other peoples lives when he decided to drive that car. Long story short: If you are blind, you can't drive a car. It's the same with your friend. If he is unable to play League without flaming other people, he simply can't play it. His disability is no excuse at all. Being disabled is not his fault. But ignoring it and harming others because of it is absolutely his fault. When he accepted the Terms of Use and therefore assured Riot that he will not verbally abuse other players, he was lying. He agreed to rules knew perfectly well he couldn't follow. This makes him 100% responsible for his actions and there is no excuse for anything he did. That much about responsibility. About a solution: I am not sure how Tourette or whatever your friend has can be treated, but that's the only option. He has to seek professional help and if that doesn't work he simply can't play League, exactly like a blind person can not drive a car. ___ And for those discussing about Tourette: You are partly right, Tourette doesn't necessarily make people curse. Only 10% show this symptom. But Tourette generally often comes along with lack of self control due to brain disfucntions in the amygdala, so even for people who do not show the symptom of uncontrollable cursing it wouldn't be surprising if they struggle to control their anger in frustrating situations. So regardless of whether what the OP said is true or not, it's not complete nonsense that Tourette can theoretically influence online toxicity. But, just to clarify this again: A disability is still no justification for knowingly/willingly harming others.
Your anology with the car is flawed, people have found different ways to help disable people to drive even when they have disabilities that's why cars for disable people exist (also instructors for people with disabilities exist ). Your reasoning is like an all or nothing way of thinking. Your either perfect or we exclude you from the activities that can make your life more enjoyable. Thank you for answering anyways.
archerno1 (EUNE)
: Is his name Cartman?
He does not hate jews nor anybody. So no. Please dont troll my post thank you.
LazySlav (EUNE)
: This reminds me of South Park episode where I think butters was cursing like that :D
: Also sharing accounts...the classic. lul That basically means there is no such friend.
That person does exist. Man if you don't want to help it's ok, but don't say things you don't know.
: Ask enemy team to mute him.
I hardly ever play with him. I usually play in NA, LAS, and LAN.
: It was a nice troll attempt but you can stop now.
No man I am serious. Don't worry this happens also in real life, people either give a damn or dont understand. Thank you anyways. Just stop spamming.
: As if somebody with tourette could type the insults, I think you watched too much south park. Nobody will fall for this, but nice try.
No man you don't understand. And please I am not asking scientific nor medical questions to you. First because you probably know nothing and second because I don't know you. So unless you want to answer something which can help please refrain from commenting. thks.
DonTGR (EUW)
: this is a question for the support, not the boards. and he should ask it himself, with prove i guess
I yes I will. But the two people who responded first think I'm trolling with this. I can't discuss this in a public forum, it's always the same. thks anyways.
Doomley (EUW)
: tourette syndrome doesn't make you curse in chat. It's uncontrollable and he does it verbally. Not by writing it. Writing something is conscious behavior and the text can be removed before pressing enter again even if it would happen on impulse. This is no excuse for toxicity
1st you don't know him 2nd you are ignorant and problably have not even study medicine in your whole life. 3rd yes insults don't are not limit to verbal situations. There is a problem with self control. I wont discuss this topic with somebody I don't and who I think knows nothing about this. Thks
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