: The fact you managed to get perm. banned on the same day you got unbanned from your previous penalty is almost adorable. A **reasonable healthy mind** would realize hitting that enter button on a last chance situation is a terrible idea. You, however, decided to create/ engage a redic. argue which you artfully managed to continue with untill the last second, **on your first day.** You show **zero sign** on reforming, you've learned **nothing** from your countless penalties and after all you still think Riots system is in the wrong. This is **embarrassing!!** https://giphy.com/gifs/jennifer-lawrence-bill-clinton-glaad-awards-80TEu4wOBdPLG
Although it was my last game of the day, the logs from my many other games after my unban were entirely innocent/constructive and my attempt to engage the team flaming me was in good intention, attempting to help my team understand why the game panned as it did. Which doesn't in my mind seem to be toxic/ insulting. I am trying to get something from this and i appreciate your approach to 'not say anything at all', i am further trying to justify a 'perma ban' out of this though, in which i struggle to do.
: if thats really the only game for your perma ban, and if you didnt cut the chatlog in any way, than this one is not really justified. but i disagree with your first statement. a jungler can of course gank prior to level 6. very deadly are those minute 2 ganks, when your jungler just took red and ganks your lane. a successfull minute 2 early gank can mess up the whole laning phase for that opponent. but, yea. you should chat less. as said in my other post, stick to pings mainly.
It was the only game, kinda why i was so surprised because it was the last game of a day full of non toxic / negative games (even with obvious inting and feeding team mates).
: > [{quoted}](name=Clericon,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=mQVUoLZm,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-02-16T17:09:06.039+0000) > > Would you say it is fair for someone to be partially negative with a team of people 'flaming' them from the very early game for dying or having a bad game? If so, do you feel it would be just for someone to be permanently banned based off of such experiences in one individual game? First question, i dont mind flamers and negative people in my games but im not riot. Second question, it wasnt one individual game, 3 games for 10cgat restrict, 3 for 25, 3 for 14day ban which warns you that any negativity or toxicity will result in a perma.
If that is the case, are we not given 'another chance' to 'reform'. If someone has a bad game, gets flamed and is mildly negative in their 'tone' when responding to flamers, do we not follow the same guidelines judging toxic players ( players toxic enough to be perma banned instantly)? I was confused because it seems as if the game i was banned for didn't show me being 'toxic' as much as it showed a 'bad game' that would typically be overlooked as it happens to everyone. but a bad game following a 14 day suspension (14 day suspension being the major factor). At this point, i am attempting to understand: at what point does it change from being a 'second chance' to 'normal actions that would never get you banned now will.. and how do we know the limit without just disposing of chat at all? Or is that the soul answer
: Negative attitude in every sentence you type, and you type A LOT. Its a game not a chat room.
Would you say it is fair for someone to be partially negative with a team of people 'flaming' them from the very early game for dying or having a bad game? If so, do you feel it would be just for someone to be permanently banned based off of such experiences in one individual game?
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