Shamose (EUW)
: _"The recent fire was the work of a terrorist."_ I haven't come across someone who uses the word "terrorist" as a general insult. "Terrorist" describes the actions of the person. "Acts of violence for a political purpose" Now "Nazi" on the other hand is specifically used to reference the movement of National Socialism in Germany from 1933 to 1945. Comparing people to mass murderers is an insult. So unless you are yourself commiting violent crimes to push your political agenda, the word "terrorist" should hold no power over you.
> [{quoted}](name=Shamose,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=wolEm84E,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-14T03:03:06.958+0000) > > _"The recent fire was the work of a terrorist."_ > > I haven't come across someone who uses the word "terrorist" as a general insult. "Terrorist" describes the actions of the person. "Acts of violence for a political purpose" > and i havnt come across someone who uses the word 'nazi' as a general insult either, whats your point? > Now "Nazi" on the other hand is specifically used to reference the movement of National Socialism in Germany from 1933 to 1945. > Comparing people to mass murderers is an insult. > and what, apart from mass murder does a terrorist do? > So unless you are yourself commiting violent crimes to push your political agenda, the word "terrorist" should hold no power over you. and unless you are killing innocent jews/gypsies/homosexuals etc etc the word 'nazi' should hold no power over you.
Shamose (EUW)
: Well no. Otherwise it'd be censored.
> [{quoted}](name=Shamose,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=wolEm84E,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-14T02:02:08.612+0000) > > Well no. Otherwise it'd be censored. please give me a sentence where 'terrorist' is used that it DOESNT form an insult
Shamose (EUW)
: Because it's main use was as an instult.
> [{quoted}](name=Shamose,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=wolEm84E,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-14T01:04:41.268+0000) > > Because it's main use was as an instult. and the word terrorist isnt?
Warix3 (EUW)
: Why did you enable ranked, the crashes are still happening
STR Blade (EUW)
: A critical error has occured and the process must be terminated!
just had this issue 3 times in 5 mins log back in 4th time to notice we have 2 nexus turrets standing, but the enemy team attacking (and destroying) our nexus for the win...
: Why wouldn't Sylan's ultimate be instantly ready for use???
but, it is there, its just on CD for them
Baka Red (EUNE)
: If the bans are useless like you say, why do you think there are people begging for their bans to be undone?
the ban is useless as, after the account is banned, the toxic player in question just makes another account and continues to be toxic.... if however when a player was banned they were somehow prevented from playing again, the ban would work, as the toxic player would not be in the game
Xenux (EUW)
: What gives you the right to be a messiah over what anyone plays? Say I ban your main constantly, wouldn't you be annoyed? You're forcing players to dodge and receive penalties because of your own ignorance and opinion about a champion. Have you not listened to yourself? And so what if you play with a certain champion? You are clearly generalizing your experience with a player who played that champion and linking it to the champion itself, when obviously, i**t is the player themselves. **
i just want to state right here, i have NOTHING wrong with the PLAYER, and EVERYTHING wrong with the CHAMPION i ban it every single game, why should i change what i do every single game to cater to your feelings i am not 'forcing' someone to dodge, merely saying that if you cannot play more than one champ in a role and are upset by the fact that i have banned the same champ i have done so for the last 50 game, the option is always there to dodge
Xenux (EUW)
: The amount of ignorance in your statement is so ridiculous, and you are blinded by it. You choose to ignore all the reasoning I gave you because of **your own preference**, do you realize that? And I did not assume it was a Yasuo. Have you not heard of an analogy?
pot calling the kettle black? i am ignorant for not letting you play the champion you want, but you are not ignorant for forcing me to play with a champion (in my team, not ME playing...) i ban every game because you hover it? ok then... i choose to ignore you reasoning purely because my ban is MY ban, i am free to choose who i ban, why are you trying to deny me that choice as to the yasuo thing, yes i concede that point, i thought you were assuming it was yasuo because of his 'reputation' my bad :)
Xenux (EUW)
: I get your point, but when did I ever "advocate" that the enemy team should be punished. Bring me one statement that said I believe in that. If you don't get first pick, then that is not your fault, that doesn't mean that you "deserve" to have your champion banned because it is a strong one. If it gets pick tough luck, but that doesn't justify someone intentionally banning your champion. And there are other ways to fix this issue, have you heard of teammates picking for you? well if they don't have the champion, again, tough luck.
i never said you did advocate for the enemy to be punished, i said that if you DIDNT it would be a DOUBLE STANDARD if a champion is INCREDIBLY STRONG on the current patch, and you are 5th pick i WILL ban it so that the enemy do not get an INCREDIBLY STRONG champion, are you deliberatly misreading all of my replies to you?
: Summoner Aery on Sivir Ricochet
i believe only the first 'hit' of sivir W procs on hits (which, i also believe aery is) the bounces shouldnt (as far as i am aware) proc it edit: from http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Summon_Aery the last entry specifically states It will not trigger on Sivir's Ricochet's bouncing damage.
Xenux (EUW)
: I don’t know what you believe I am talking about, but the issue I am speaking of in this thread is of one that causes your teammates to ban your own champion.
what he is saying is say for example you hover i dont know, lets call them champ A champ A is real strong right now YOU are 5th pick on your team he bans champ A because it is likely that, before you have the chance to pick, the enemy will take it from under you are you advocating the enemy team should be punished as well for 'stealing' your pick? if not, why the double standard, i mean they both (the 'stealing' and banning) result in you not playing the champion you hovered....
Xenux (EUW)
: I don’t understand you, how is anyone forcing you to play anything? That’s not what he is saying. What he says is completely respectable and understandable, and what he says does not hold any jurisdiction over what YOU play, so why disagree with him?
what is hard to understand? i dont like playing with a certain champion, either in my team or on the enemy team, which is why i ban said champion, how does that make me a jerk? i am in no way saying he is forcing me to play a champion, i am saying he would be forcing me to play WITH a certain champ on my team that i dont like to play with, i ban it each and every game, if it happens to be your champion, so be it, you are free to dodge....
Xenux (EUW)
: Why? Because I am your teammate who will help you win, because you want a friendly relationship in order to succeed in a game, and definitely because, you don’t want someone trolling you game. It is people like you who create conflict within the community. Because you do not wish to leave a player and let him play with his own preference or taste, and so what if he wants to play yasuo? You ever hear the statement that says “yasuo is shit in my team, yet always a god in the enemy team” that statement further validates that a yasuo player could be a good player, yet because you have this generlization of all yasuo players, **YOU WILL BE TILTED** and what worse enemy does a league player have, except tilt?
why? because as i stated i dont like playing with them in my team or against them on the enemy team. you realise that just because you hover someone doesnt guarentee that you play that champion right? edit: i dont know why you are assuming its yasuo i ban... it isnt...
Hansiman (EUW)
: Some people reform and actually behave. Others find other games to play. If you want to focus on the small minority that just want to remain toxic, that's fine. You do you.
if your first statement is true, then why was the test thing on NA servers stopped? i concede to your second point i am not 'focusing' on a small minority, i am merely pointing out that the ban system does NOTHING to that small minority, they will just create another account to be toxic, if they get banned again, they again make another account, therefore the toxicity that the ban is meant to stop is still in the game.
Hansiman (EUW)
: Because the ban is tied to the account, and the account is now permanently locked from being used. It means you lose access to everything you've unlocked, and achieved, and have to start from scratch. But as the game is free to play, it is impossible to prevent a person from signing up again if they so desire.
so then the bans are in effect useless, and serve no purpose except to piss of toxic people to make them more toxic o.O GG riot
Hansiman (EUW)
: The ban is tied to the account.
the account, which according to the ToS is unsharable, so (assuming no other rules are broken) can only be one person, how can you say the ban is permanent when 5 mins later that same person is back in the game on another account surely it would be better to say 'permanent bans are a minor inconvenience to you as you are free to come back into our game with a new account'
PH45 (EUNE)
: Permabans are permanent, no changing that. You are free to create a new account and play on that though.
> [{quoted}](name=PH45,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=POgnE82F,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-01-08T22:14:38.610+0000) > > Permabans are permanent, no changing that. You are free to create a new account and play on that though. so they are not permanent then?
HitYourHead (EUNE)
: I think people that ban somebody pick intent are jerks, sure I heard so many explications about this subject, that enemy can pick it, or that player has lowinrare etc (that's why pages as op.gg create so much toxicity and I hate riot allowing them to exist and even partnered with op.gg for clash) No matter players explications, you are jerks and if you are rude to your teammate and do not care about his preference then do not expect to be respected in return. While ones that troll because they got their champion banned are also jerks, I can understand them. Players make trolls from ok players all the time, I see it happen so often, and abuse others and disrespect so much until others lose their mind and start to trolign or inting or flaming. It's simple, you are rude, jerk, disrespectful with somebody else and not care about his wishes, just about your self centered spoiled brat behavior, then go %%%% yourself and don't expect respect and good behavior in return! Myself I never pickintend a champion because toxicity in champ select can be more harmful then me not picking my intent and allow players to strategize around my pic, they don't do it anyway and if they do maybe i will change my mind because of enemy pick and then the team wil start crying like dumb sheeps, so I never pick it end and if they ban a champ I wanted it play I don't care since i don't tend to play one champ I play many champs in many roles.
> [{quoted}](name=HitYourHead,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=oogEarhX,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-01-08T18:51:59.752+0000) > > I think people that ban somebody pick intent are jerks > and i think that someone forcing me to play with a champion i dont like playing with are jerks
Xenux (EUW)
: There Needs To Be A Consequence To Banning Your Teammates Champion.
on the very rare occasion that i play SR, i ban the same champion every game, because i both hate playing against them and with them, if that happens to be your champion, i am sorry i am still banning it for the above reason, why should i have to change what i do to cater to your demands?
HitYourHead (EUNE)
: Well we waited 8 years or more to have a skin collection tab, and after we got it so many other things could be fixed and I really don't knwo why they limited to just skin collection. Maybe as you suggest to show which champion you have skins on. To see when you scroll the skins, the skins you own first then the ones you do not have on the champion you locked in champ select because if you have like 3 skins on a champion with many skins it take time and is confusing to browse through all skins unowned to see if you have more than one skins. It's hard to remember which champ you have skin for and how many you have on each champ. So to combine with your idea they can place a small number in the corner of champion picture with how many skins you have, 0,1,2,3 etc, and maybe even a special border around champion picture for collectors that got all skins on a champion.
either this, or leave the current little circle thingies for skins, but colour owned skin differently to those that are unowned, this added to the numbering system you propose would be great :)
Mcgalakar (EUNE)
: What is wrong with a system that force you to do some work to get a reward? Being otp means that getting S or S- on him, especially on normals, is easy (just get in your lane someone trying a champion for the first time).
> [{quoted}](name=Mcgalakar,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=zHtuVAkb,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-01-07T21:23:53.043+0000) > > What is wrong with a system that force you to do some work to get a reward? Being otp means that getting S or S- on him, especially on normals, is easy (just get in your lane someone trying a champion for the first time). but this is somewhat mitigated by the fact that you can only get a certain amount of boxes at a time, and then have to wait until more boxes unlock being a OTP wouldnt afford you more boxes than someone who plays multiple champs (assuming a change could be made to make multiple boxes available for a champ)
: Vel'koz New skin for God's Sake!
according to http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_champions/Skin_catalog velkoz is 11th in the list if sorted by longest time since last skin what makes you think vel deserves a skin ahead of the 10 that have been waiting longer (well except that you main this particular champ)
FleaLess (EUNE)
: and using your logic guns should be legal, because you can just buy a bulletproof vest, its that easy
not my logic, but the logic you used in your original response to me...
: If he doesn't have that basic amount of self control, he shouldn't be playing in the first place. Let's be real, people like him will just resort to inting when the option of flaming is taken away from them. He even said it himself.
again, using your own logic, if people dont have the self control to mute flamers maybe they shouldn't be playing in the first place however i agree that when they start feeding that somewhat crosses a line
: Umm, you can just stop using chat ya know...
> [{quoted}](name=Shadowflame,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=IuOEl9wj,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-06T19:49:14.116+0000) > > Umm, you can just stop using chat ya know... he obviously has issues with this, which is why he is asking to be muted... using your logic, reports for flaming should be disregarded because , umm you can just mute flamers ya know....
: [Gameplay] Conqueror applies on first hit on Illaoi's E
looking at http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Illaoi the 'additional info' for her E states the following The redirected damage from triggering Conqueror on the Spirit will benefit from the true damage and will be amplified by the bonus ad. i would assume that the attack on the spirit is counted as 'seperate' from the redirected damage edit: also looking on the same wiki at the conqueror page states The attack that triggered Conqueror and its effects won't be affected by the damage conversion or by the bonus AD. Any damage over time or follow-up effects that come with the attack will be affected by the bonus AD from the second instance onward but not by the conversion and DoT effects that started damaging an enemy before the attack that triggered Conqueror will be affected by the conversion. as i said, i would assume here that the redirected damage counts as a 'follow up effect' rather than an 'effect' of the initial triggering attack (seeing as how it affects the player rather than the spirit) and seeing as how you procced the DoT (by pulling the spirit) before initiating conqueror with an auto on the spirit to me this is working as intended
Cryptidian (EUNE)
: Kayn R bug - Used it twice in a row one after another
not sure on this, could it be that because he was killed whilst IN someone (and ressed by Zilean) the CD didnt register? kind of like a reverse situation with cait's ult, in that if the target is killed before the bullet is in the air, it goes on a 4-5 sec CD then is usable again (if the target dies with the bullet in the air, there is no reset) just thinking that because he didnt come out (due to dying) maybe thats why he could use again also, i would agree that this is a bug and needs looking at by riot
: Please, don't quote me on something I didn't say
i suggest you look up the acronym FTFY....
: RIOT is aware of those and they delete those bots by waves. So there won't be here after a while. But you can't do much about it since they will always be some people making them...
> [{quoted}](name=Doom emissary,realm=EUW,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=qtnv4v9F,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-04T20:53:18.352+0000) > > RIOT is in denial of those and they deny their existance at all times > ftfy
Uberste (EUW)
: 21.39 Christmas day. Game launcher won't start and if i did get online couldn't connect to chat.
i tried to relog and had this issue (that the launcher wont open) i had to go into task manager and manually close League and was able to restart the client after (although i am now stuck authenticating)
: Servers Bugging?
currently trying to log in, and have been doing so for the last 20 mins or so, stuck on 'authenticating' endlessly edit: finally been able to log in, the only problem is the play button in top left flat out doesnt seem to work... edit2: because the play button was unresponsive i tried to relog..... that was a mistake seeing as i am now stuck 'authenticating' again :(
Gryvias (EUW)
: So, Iron vs Gold ?
its more likely that the gold/silver were placed too high and only have iron MMR that or you rank is iron but your MMR is high silver/low gold (which means you will climb fast :) )
: Which serves no real purpouse anyway as people just alt tab anyway.
if you are alt tabbed you are not looking at the shop/chatting to your friends, so your point is moot
Kurotsu (EUW)
: I hope they're not your mates anymore
> [{quoted}](name=Kurotsu,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=PK3EM6Vj,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-12-09T01:43:52.041+0000) > > I hope they're not your mates anymore i think he means him solo + a 4man premade...
: Low Priority Queue and chatting
if you are 'fine' with waiting 20mins for a queue, then you are not really being 'punished' for leaving games...... the not being able to browse the store/chat with friends on friends list etc etc is all part of the 'punishment' imho
Sarokh (EUW)
: dont exit the client if the game doesnt start in the champion selection, that was what i meant XD
at that point, the forum posts were (on my screen at least) me: maybe you should make the login issues a priority, you cant start games unless you login first....... you: U can, patience is the key hence my above reply to you, how is this even remotely meant to be read as 'dont exit the client if the game doesnt start'
: Can you give me a direct link? I cant find it on my own, this community, is large.
to the board universal rules? its on the left above all the sub forum names here is a direct link though https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/announcements-en/3eWpXbJi-universal-boards-rules-updated-27-04-16
: Reporting an Offensive-Disruptive Language
taken from 'board universal rules' Reporting Other Players (aka Naming and Shaming) Please don't report a potentially misbehaving player in these boards. If you see or hear about another person breaking the rules, send us a ticket directly so we can investigate and take action if necessary. We know that players report publicly with the best intentions, but it often leads to a witchhunt, rarely resulting in a positive discussion. We’ll be taking action against players who have violated rules, so please report these players correctly. Moderators will be looking for the following: ● Posts that accuse others of being toxic players in-game ● Posts accusing others of malicious activity ● Posts that accuse others of cheating or using illegal services ● Posts accusing others of trolling in the boards (there’s a report button for that) ● Posts claiming to have "reported" someone (There's no need to post this information)
: > [{quoted}](name=Riot Eambo,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=0s0ehAVw,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2018-12-08T21:10:22.800+0000) > > We have intentionally turned off logins while we investigate - unfortunately consistently trying to start games while these issues occur artificially increases load resulting in a snowball of impact. > > _**Logins are off while we investigate and to prevent overloading this portion of the platform.**_ please reflect that in the client then, instead of implying they are turned on, but slow (the client says 'due to recent issues, there is currently a large login queue that will delay login times while it drains' it says nothing about login queues being switched 'off')
> [{quoted}](name=Conphucius,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=0s0ehAVw,comment-id=0000000000010000,timestamp=2018-12-08T21:19:45.536+0000) > > please reflect that in the client then, instead of implying they are turned on, but slow (the client says 'due to recent issues, there is currently a large login queue that will delay login times while it drains' it says nothing about login queues being switched 'off') scratch that, i seem to have been able to log in now... but the play button is greyed out :(
: > [{quoted}](name=Conphucius,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=0s0ehAVw,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-12-08T21:07:00.626+0000) > > maybe you should make the login issues a priority, you cant start games unless you login first....... We have intentionally turned off logins while we investigate - unfortunately consistently trying to start games while these issues occur artificially increases load resulting in a snowball of impact. Logins are off while we investigate and to prevent overloading this portion of the platform.
> [{quoted}](name=Riot Eambo,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=0s0ehAVw,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2018-12-08T21:10:22.800+0000) > > We have intentionally turned off logins while we investigate - unfortunately consistently trying to start games while these issues occur artificially increases load resulting in a snowball of impact. > > _**Logins are off while we investigate and to prevent overloading this portion of the platform.**_ please reflect that in the client then, instead of implying they are turned on, but slow (the client says 'due to recent issues, there is currently a large login queue that will delay login times while it drains' it says nothing about login queues being switched 'off')
Sarokh (EUW)
: U can, patience is the key
really? please tell me, how, if i cannot even login, i can start a game.....
: Hi yyzarx, We're continuing to investigate. Unfortunately we've had many symptoms we've saw and ruled out, but the root cause is continuing to be investigated. Our priority is getting games working as expected aside from finding the root cause.
> [{quoted}](name=Riot Eambo,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=0s0ehAVw,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-12-08T20:54:27.847+0000) > > Hi yyzarx, > > We're continuing to investigate. Unfortunately we've had many symptoms we've saw and ruled out, but the root cause is continuing to be investigated. _**Our priority is getting games working as expected**_ aside from finding the root cause. maybe you should make the login issues a priority, you cant start games unless you login first.......
Morogoth (EUW)
: Another newly introduced Heimerdinger bug (8.24)
afaik, his turrets BASIC ATTACKS have never procced on hit effects (though i believe the beam attack does) though they SHOULD be proccing 'icy' from rylai's from http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Heimerdinger Basic attacks do not apply spell effects, but apply Rylai's Crystal Scepter's Icy. Beam attacks apply spell effects as an area-of-effect ability.
: > [{quoted}](name=Conphucius,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ZqQ6BGqx,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-09-18T19:40:38.576+0000) > > type in game /mute all...... there chat disabled I know that, but they you can still typ. Or make it possible to make sjure you can just permandent turn off the chat. Cause when you even give hints to peaple they troll harder, flame harder, int harder. So just turn ot all the caht possibilities and play only on pings , like the voicechat.
so, you are basically blaming someone else for your own lack of self control....
: No ratings / chests from ARAM games
i have issues seeing the rank on match history for aram games, though i have never had a problem not getting a rank for a game in the end game screen to me at least, it seems like a UI bug on the 'match history' screen, and you do in fact get a rank/any rewards you earn
Mcgalakar (EUNE)
: >doesnt change the fact that with the old system, even with having to pay for runes, i was able to jump in to ranked almost immediatly as i reached 30 because i had the choice of what champions i bought (and started with the 450s, then moved onto 1350s etc etc, only buying one expensive champ, so no i completely disagree that the new system is faster for champion aquisition And I spend like over 2 months being level 30 and saving to get enough champions to play ranked when I was new. Does this prove anything? But let's check how champions you can buy starting from then cheapest ones to more expensive one. For the sake of equation let's assume that the player picked Ahri or Darius as the first champion (the most rational pick seeing their BE price). We also delete Garen from the list of cheap champs, as we get him for free. You get 21 permanent champions in the least economical way! I mean, selling all your champions shards and buying the ones that are cheapest (mind me, I did the previous equations without having in mind that I will need them again, therefore it is more safe to say you will get anything between 18-21, but I still think that the 21 is an accurate number). What's more, you have 4 for free, so you should have 25 champions right now (or 22-25). So you can easily jump into the ranked the moment you hit level 30. >so then, i (on my main account) only have the illusion of free stuff (yes i get a 'free' champion shard or 2 every level, but it is useless considering i own all champions, its kinda disingenuous that the default response to complaints like mine to be 'stfu you get free stuff quit complaining' About what illusion do you speak? You want Riot to give you skin shards with every level up capsule? If it was what you wanted to say, then have you ever considered that keeping game running cost money? If not, please rephrase what you said in more clear way. >and those of you that play more than 8 games a day, %%%% you right It is true that it will be harder for them. Riot picked the model that was intended to support more casual players. But I agree, if someone is the hardcore type of guy who spend the whole day playing LoL, the new system is way more disadvantageous for him. I would not mind if Riot would do something for them also.
> [{quoted}](name=Mcgalakar,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=kecQZgO1,comment-id=00020000000100000000,timestamp=2018-09-20T07:51:29.158+0000) > > About what illusion do you speak? You want Riot to give you skin shards with every level up capsule? If it was what you wanted to say, then have you ever considered that keeping game running cost money? If not, please rephrase what you said in more clear way. > on my main account, that owns all champions, if i only ever get champion shards, what am i actually recieving for free? nothing.... hence the illusion of free stuff, i cannot use 'free stuff' i got, therefore i got nothing
: Oh yeah because you got so much skins with the IP system and no one had over 200k IP just sitting there. /s
yes because the new system makes that sooooooo much better doesnt it, i mean its not as though i am now sitting on 90k BE that i have nothing to do with right? (i dont care for chromas, and i dont play enough champions to need a lot of BE for mastery sake)
Mcgalakar (EUNE)
: >on my smurf that has just hit 30 why is it that the ONLY thing i DO NOT get from level up rewards is champ shards, i get ward skins skin shards and emotes through the ass, but champ shards From the level up capsules you receive a skin shard and ward skin only once at level 10(and you still gets 450BE champion shard) and 25 for a second ward (and 4800 champion shard). You also get 4 permanent champions, that you do not need to unlock. For all of the rest levels you receive a BE, that in the end according to [Riot](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752824) you should receive 16 780 BE. >on this account, that owns ALL champions, and has enough BE to get the next 10 that come out, why is it the ONLY thing i ever get from level up rewards is champion shards Because rewards from leveling capsules are mainly champions and emotes every 25 levels and gemstones every 50 after level 150. >ok, who is it better for? For every player playing less than 8 games per day. If you play more, then you would receive more IP in the old system.
> [{quoted}](name=Mcgalakar,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=kecQZgO1,comment-id=000200000001,timestamp=2018-09-20T06:53:06.783+0000) > > From the level up capsules you receive a skin shard and ward skin only once at level 10(and you still gets 450BE champion shard) and 25 for a second ward (and 4800 champion shard). You also get 4 permanent champions, that you do not need to unlock. For all of the rest levels you receive a BE, that in the end according to [Riot](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752824) you should receive 16 780 BE. > i have just gone through all of my owned champions on my smurf account, and adding them up, i recieved (with the spare i have left atm) 16732 BE of champions, a little less that what you stated, but i am not about to rage over 48BE. doesnt change the fact that with the old system, even with having to pay for runes, i was able to jump in to ranked almost immediatly as i reached 30 because i had the choice of what champions i bought (and started with the 450s, then moved onto 1350s etc etc, only buying one expensive champ, so no i completely disagree that the new system is faster for champion aquisition > Because rewards from leveling capsules are mainly champions and emotes every 25 levels and gemstones every 50 after level 150. > so then, i (on my main account) only have the illusion of free stuff (yes i get a 'free' champion shard or 2 every level, but it is useless considering i own all champions, its kinda disingenuous that the default response to complaints like mine to be 'stfu you get free stuff quit complaining' > For every player playing less than 8 games per day. If you play more, then you would receive more IP in the old system. and those of you that play more than 8 games a day, %%%% you right
: Every now and then these IP vs BE discussions pop up. It has been proven countless times BE system is better. Not here to prove anything. Just giving you a heads up.
you say its been 'proven' countless times that the 'new' system is better? ok, who is it better for? because from my experience, the only one to gain from this is RIOT, setting this up as a money grab let me explain with my own personal experience on this account, that owns ALL champions, and has enough BE to get the next 10 that come out, why is it the ONLY thing i ever get from level up rewards is champion shards (and the vast vast vast majority of the time they are for champs i NEVER play, so its not as though i can use them for mastery ranks) on my smurf that has just hit 30 (and in going from lvl 1 - 30, i was able to buy a whopping massive TWELVE champions, need another 8 before i can play ranked, so we are looking at, AT LEAST another 8 lvls) why is it that the ONLY thing i DO NOT get from level up rewards is champ shards, i get ward skins (useless as an aram only player as you cant use wards in aram) skin shards (for champs i dont own) and emotes (i dont care for emotes...) through the ass, but champ shards.... nope both instances look to me (yes i am cynical, sue me) to be nothing but a money grab, to force me to pay for skins on my main account, or champs for my smurf please, if you have any idea as to why this is, i would be interested :)
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