: So they drawed out the game to the point where you lost your advantage. You’ve already answered everything you’ve been asking. And even if you felt she was bad you disrespected her late game and payed for it. You should never count a hyper carry out they are still gonna be a threat. This isn’t even unique to vayne they all are like this. You’ve just gotta learn how to stop people from drawing the game out. > If I had to choose between getting my mains nerfed to shit, or extremely op, I would rather have them be shit, No you really wouldn’t... having your main be shit to the point where there’s no point playing them is a horrid feeling, worse when you know riot is doing it on purpose
First of all, "disrespect" her is a strong word. She just went after me and with her invis I couldn't auto to get the %%%% away from her. And yes, the game was drawn out, but then again, not due to me, since I couldn't do anything to Jax, which could just 2 shot me. He getting ahead really messed the game up. Second of all, Zoe was my main and even I agreed she was broken lmao. They nerfed her in the wrong places and ended up ""killing"" her whole kit. Illaoi got reworked for no apparent reason besides not being fun to play against (a.k.a. every single meta champion right now). Xayah is shit due to the crit meta being gone due to the itemization rework. These are all champions I play/played and the only one whose changes didn't make sense at all (in my opinion) was Illaoi. Besides that I think they are where they should be, Zoe was too good and she needed some well deserved nerfs, although I don't think they nerfed what they should've. And Xayah was too good for too long.
: > I had an "insurmountable lead". She just built 3 items and boom I'm dead. Well no you didn’t... if you had you’d one shot her constantly. The fact that she built 3 items before you won shows it was far from insurmountable. > And, as someone who played Vayne before, and does sometimes now, I'd rather have her useless than extremely broken. And there’s people who will say that about every champion... every champion has a hater somewhere. Do you think it’d be fair your main got killed because someone just didn’t like them. > And Jhin's late game isn't bad either. He just needs to play safer than normal ADCs since his attack speed doesn't let him burst down divers and assasins as fast. In this specific game I really just had to play agressive since I was the only one who could carry the fights and kill their backline. He’s an adc, they are all decent late game. But he isn’t a hyper carry, there’s plenty of adcs who will outscale him. So it doesn’t matter if your late game ain’t bad if your late game is worse than your opposite number then you’ve gotta win early or loose the game simple as that
{{item:3046}} denied my one shots. They just drawed out the game so they played well on that part. And no, Vayne is extremely broken right now, and it makes no sense that she is still like this. If I had to choose between getting my mains nerfed to shit, or extremely op, I would rather have them be shit, since what's the point of playing a broken champion? And Vayne outscales Jhin, but her mechanics were so bad that it felt unfair to not be able to counter it.
Yraco (EUW)
: The idea against a late game champion is to not let them reach their spikes. Vayne is meant to be a strong duelist and a great late gamer, when she hits 3 items you're not meant to be able to easily fight her, if she plays right she wins easily unless you're up like 2 items as Jhin (a bit more fight oriented when he can kite better behind a tank/use his ult at all).
> [{quoted}](name=Yraco,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=LFecYh5B,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-01-18T21:03:33.724+0000) > > The idea against a late game champion is to not let them reach their spikes. It's not easy considering I was solo carrying my team and I had a 1000 gold bounty. When I had to take risks in order to win. And I was up 2 items. In fact I was full build.
: Yasuo late game? dont you mean 2 items 100% crit chance?
I kinda meant powerspikes tbh, that's why I said "not really late game, but his late game is off the %%%%ing charts"
PL4Y3RØ (EUW)
: if you are talking about vayne , don't, it's her meta now, and i rather have it now than at the end of season.
Agreed. But I don't understand how this is considered fine by Riot's eyes.
: It’s all about scaling. Hyper carries have a weak early game in exchange for a strong late game... lane bullies are the opposite with strong early games and weak late games. In a match up between them (say jhin vs vayne) the early game champion is expected to win early game and needs to use this lead to create a win or an insurmountable lead before the hyper carry is able to get items and therefore hit their power spikes. If it didn’t work like that there’d be no point of early or late game champions... if a late game champion wasn’t allowed to do their job unless they won their weakest phase vs a champion at their prime then they’d be useless... there’d be no reason to play them. As a player who players early game champions its your job to know how to translate that into a win before the late game champions become an issue, or at the very least carry until your own late game champions in your team takes over.
I had an "insurmountable lead". She just built 3 items and boom I'm dead. And, as someone who played Vayne before, and does sometimes now, I'd rather have her useless than extremely broken. And Jhin's late game isn't bad either. He just needs to play safer than normal ADCs since his attack speed doesn't let him burst down divers and assasins as fast. In this specific game I really just had to play agressive since I was the only one who could carry the fights and kill their backline.
Rioter Comments
iSuzuken (EUW)
: not to mention that Neeko can sit in lane for 50 minutes while spamming skills and never run out of mana.
Infernape (EUW)
: Build grievous wounds?
> [{quoted}](name=DDEK123,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=o0q77QgN,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-12-18T17:21:57.721+0000) > >(With morrelo's) did you even read the whole thing dude
: There is to much damage in game
Even though I'm a mage main (Neeko and Zoe mostly) I do believe that getting a Lost Chapter is too rewarding rn. You can just afford to miss everything, and if you aren't against an Assasin you can do whatever you want after that. Also Trinity force is busted AF and it should get removed from the game or it should be heavily nerfed :).
Rioter Comments
: when will riot actually learn from their mistakes
Honestely Neeko kinda lacks as a burst mage, she's just a clean-up/engage champion. Her ult is dealing way too much damage right now but she gets blown up rather easily, so as long, her Q is really clunky to use if you don't land her E, and her normal E feels way too slow. Her base damage is good, but since her Q is DoT your target can get healed or shielded really easily. Also any sort of dash or blink just straight up counters her ult. She's good, but not inheritely broken, she just needs some nerfs to her R and a speed-up on the Q repeats. And her W is way too good as a poking tool early on. So nerf W base damage. And she should become balanced. Also her kit is basic.
Rioter Comments
FrO0Ze3N (EUNE)
: And if am using voice program how could i tell a friend which champ to focus ? :))
Just use a codename.
StyrosNinja (EUNE)
: league of assassins but if enemy team pick 2 tanks, all assassins start succ ballz. Just l2p and start pick good champs, not garbo {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
2 tanks can't stop a mobile assasin from getting to the back line and one-shotting their backline before going all the way back to their team. Also all champions should be viable and if "start pick good champs" becomes the rule instead of "start pick better champs" the game will eventually die.
FrO0Ze3N (EUNE)
: The newest champion "Neeko"
Just don't say the name then?
Rioter Comments
PH45 (EUNE)
: And this is why you don't follow these brainless tactics.
Fiôrà (EUNE)
: EUNE IS THE MOST TOXIC SERVER
Ever played on EUW?
Mοca (EUNE)
: ok
*carries once* *doesn't get an S* **TRIGERRED** I have over 20 boxes and I don't even try to get them. Just play well and have a diverse champion pool.
: not even 35sec. his base cd at lv3 is 100sec. 40% cdr leaves 60sec, ultimate hunter 15%, leaves 51sec cdr. meanwhile lux ult 14sec cd {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}}
There's a difference between a skillshot nuke and a literal global graves' W mixed with an assasin's burst. Plus in order for Lux to be useful she needs to get her combo up early enough, so she can use it mutiple times per fight.
Hawkzorz (EUW)
: Oh. Let me try. *coughs* Ahem. Riot riot, why thou cry-eth? Is it because the autumn leaves are falling, or is it because playbase is calling, for servers new, and less shitty programming crew. So that yet once again, we can play and rank gain, please stop clash before myself go insane. Five months ago, you told me so, beta tests had been made, stress test too, yet here we are, clash needs a grave from yorick's spade. Give it up! No shame! Well a little, seems made in china is accurate, even for a game.
> [{quoted}](name=Hawkzorz,realm=EUW,application-id=ETj6EdvQ,discussion-id=lEZfALNe,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-11-01T18:40:55.090+0000) >and less shitty programming crew. That seems to be impossible, I have little to no knowledge in programming but I'm sure that with a team of ""highly trained professionals"" and millions of dollars/euros I could pull something off better than this.
: Scuffed Indie company as usual
Hey, once an indie company, always an indie company! Real talk tho, what the %%%% was this shit show.
ConTR0LL (EUW)
: Lost my account!..
https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us
Scythe (EUNE)
: suspension 14 days ban
No. You can't do anything. And why let your brother play on your account?
AGmafa (EUW)
: its a game bug doesnt concern the camera settings
Could be just that. And it's your problem anyways, just trying to help out.
: Yes. I still think their only good rework was Warwick, everything else they went overboard
I mean, Aatrox and Irelia just feel dumb broken and clunky, Akali feels dumb busted but it's still fun to play and feels nice, and Nunu is a masterpiece. But Warwick was the best one, no doubt on that.
: Need help with a game on my local radio.
Sorta sounds like a vase dragging along the floor or a can opening? I guess?
: Morgor the true vastaya
Paragraphs. Then you'll get someone to read this.
Solash (EUW)
: When you find a real cutie online
Ightonald (EUW)
: Yeah, its true, sucks cause i got mates who play it, I still think that the behavior is not permban worthy. I think that the admins dont actually read the chat or watch the game, they just ban I will just buy another account for £5 and not invest a penny further in to it. My first account i spend about $400, that got permabanned, i learned a lesson from that point.. Accounts can get banned at any time, so dont put money in to it.
Already did. Spent around 200 something euros on League and it's at it shittiest state right now. Haven't opened it in weeks.
Chyn94 (EUW)
: Season 9 i want gold regen runes back for Supports
Ightonald (EUW)
: permabanned account for retaliating on trolls
You flamed just as hard lmao. Just quit league anyways, not like there aren't any better games right now.
: Terms and conditions window size issue
https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us
AGmafa (EUW)
: I cant play league bc my cam is moving %%%%%%ed
Have you tried changing your camera settings? Like, unlock the camera, change it to semi-locked, etc?
: [8.20] Taliyah
Don't play Taliyah then.
STONED OX (EUNE)
: Stolen acc
They might have deleted the ticket since they have your login info, create another account, create a ticket and explain the situation. Give them skins you bought long ago, along with champions. Tell them how many rune pages you bought and if you didn't tell them that, for example.
: Ezreal's disgusting new voice
He does elevate himself lmao
: always get my secondary role
autofill grants you protection for the next 2 games (no autofill). if you always got your secondary consider swapping to another secondary.
: 40 points lost from 1 loss
I just check your winrate, and I can definitely say this: MAD CUZ BAD HEHE XD
: what makes you tilt the most?
The fact that Riot doesn't know what they're doing with the meta right now.
: I tend to see the other way around. So I tend to see a lane not doing well and therefore the enemy jungler will camp it for lots and lots of kills and by the time our jungler has finally woken up, then that lane is properly history. But yeh, proper frustrating no doubt.
I mean, it's a bit of a waste of time to gank a lane if you're just going to lose again, or if the enemy jungler will just be counter-ganking constantly. That time would be better spent helping even or ahead lanes shove waves, get kills and take objectives, while making the laner that's behind play as safe as he can. And even if he kept dying, he would eventually be worth less gold.
calypsowa (EUW)
: just how do you do it
Either: a) Stop playing the game since you've reached your skill cap and got nothing else to do besides playing for fun. or b) Learn every single champion, mechanic, ward spot, you name it you can and try to rank up again.
King Lego (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=DDEK123,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=RmetqMX1,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-10-04T18:51:08.718+0000) > > How about the shield is a oven door or a grill? I think meat shield is better. It gives a pun to it.
Yeah, but his E could become the meant shield, like the oven door would open up and a large piece of meat would pop out, releasing some fumes that would act as the "ice" that he has in the original skin. Just saying, like the concept tho.
: > i had the top 10% honor badge for the last 8 years lol ? Honor exists for like 3 years now?! > and the guy said that in his opinion i wasnt toxic at all If that is true, he would have unbanned you. Reform card or didn't happen.
I think he meant counting the old honor system.
D4RKEVA (EUW)
: Ah you mean the worlds pass and the other stuff? Its not forced on us and its non random like in the ones mentioned Also you get free stuff by playing and watching just not as much as when you pay I am playing since season 2 it isnt the most fun ever but thats also because i played for so long, imo end of season 5 before worlds was the coolest but right now is good too. stability is boring thats the reason lol and other mobas patch xD it would stagnate and then actually die Fortnite really doesnt express that well(as you realised( especially since it only has like 20 things to really balance, league alone has millions of combinations The thing they tried this season backfired and they realised it(the 2-3 week big patches instead of a mid season one
Yeah I've been playing for a while now aswell and I'd prefer a bit more stability when it comes to League. Then the elemental dragons came (not this season, but still) and so did the shitty botlane meta. No time to adapt due to the "2-3 week big patches" and it just drove me away. Jhin ended up being the only good champion I used to play that was actually decently good, but he has little to no cc and he gets dived way too easily. I'd rather prefer they'd take it a bit slower so players would have some more time to adapt to the meta before they would make changes. And also, the worlds pass seems like overly agressive monetization to me, and so do the 5 (exaggeration) different type of orbs. It doesn't really make sense in a larger scale for Riot to do that besides just getting some extra money (after skin sales), and getting people to grind the game. Just doesn't "click" with me, y'know?
Rasta (EUNE)
: Master Chef Braum (Skin concept)
How about the shield is a oven door or a grill?
D4RKEVA (EUW)
: client bugs are shit yes, but the actual game is mostly not as buggy as other „super“ big games crashes? Neither me nor any of my friends had any, the only actual annoying Overly aggressive micro transactions? For cosmetics? This isnt ea nor overwatch lol YOU CANT FIND ANY ... This meta right now is likely one of the most fun ones since seasons
There are so many overly agressive micro-transactions. Just look at the worlds event. No one that isn't an youtuber can afford all that bullshit. It's uneeded and it makes no sense. And if you find this meta "fun", then you're probably either new to the game or just went off most other seasons, since most players would rather have stability in a competitive MOBA and not what we got right now. (At least the enemy team is GUARRANTEED to have a diver or bruiser) It's not fun to adapt to a new patch just to get hit by a new one 2 weeks afterwards, that massively changes the way the game works. Fortnite handle patches well, changing major stuff BETWEEN seasons, not in the middle of it. But Fortnite is a BR so I guess it doesn't express my idea well.
: > [{quoted}](name=DDEK123,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=QTs5ZfmA,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-03T21:42:08.063+0000) > > Hey, CertainlyT made her, so there's not much that can be done to save her. every time certainlyt makes a champ people should just be looking at it and be thinking, why is this here? and dont try to balance around it. just remove it. So remove Akali Q heal zoe W Damage and speed boost. and all kind of those things
> [{quoted}](name=Teemo Hit R,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=QTs5ZfmA,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-03T21:48:17.826+0000) > > So remove Akali Q heal *zoe W Damage and speed boost.* As a lvl 7 Zoe player, I couldn't agree more.
Hansiman (EUW)
: I started playing almost 6 years ago, and every season since that time has been the "last season" according to certain players, and called out that the game was dying. It would appear, that it's a very very slow death at least.
It's just me then experiencing the client bugs, the crashes, and the overly agressive micro-transactions that have been going on. oH. nEveRMinD tHEn. But, being serious, League has reached his downfall and I just can't seem to find any enjoyment playing it anymore. That's why I've pretty much quit. The meta seems like a shitshow and I'm suprised there's even going to be a Worlds (Not really, again, "overly agressive micro-transactions" but) since Riot is just being pressured by Tencent to keep making money or w/e.
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