: Report Riot Option anytime soon?
Again and again...this is the game at minute 15 aprox. All perfect by my hand, adc feeding with wards and warning and vision and chat observations like "if you know WW is camping don't push and back when I ping"...but nothing to do. Final score 2/6/6 with a team unable to play and jungle dc every now and then. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1f6KW45MgDG0z8ZO4D0GXmd4EtYzHNeyu/view?usp=sharing
BlueStr (EUNE)
: Riot disclosed that the report was placebo. It literally did absolutely nothing other than give people the false feeling that someone playing bad will get punished, which they never were. I will look for a source once i'm home if you insist but that will be in the evening. So in a nut shell you want an useless option back to have the feeling of reporting someone?
Well the actual report system it's a placebo too. I wrote down my lost games and 7 out of 10 lost games had 1 or more dcs on my team. Those are not punctual dcs, neither they were punished. So...give me placebos at least...
: Also, your winrate is 49% in over 500 games, that means it's you.
You must be lacking some gray matter when you are talking about score with no more than the K/D/A. Last game I was 4/1 as support the team was about 12/5. Only me and mid lux kill and did not fed at minute 15. We turned the game for the better, but the two tanks decided to play at the back line of the teamfights and adding that to a fed Jax and Jhin resulted as a 1 lost team fight 3 turrets and nexus down move. I would love to report Jarvan and Renek last game coz they decided to stop tanking all of the sudden. Got all team lost and look how enemy team destroyed 3 turrets and nexus. Btw if you give me to choose my score between 7/1/0 and 1/7/20 I always will chose the second, I'm support my job is to get my adc fed, he scales better. As a support I can only TRY to help my teammates, but at the end if they go afk or afb away from the brain I cannot get control of their pc, that I can't. Not that I care about what you are saying due you lack of gray matter, nothing to learn there.
Magneset (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=DarkGargos,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=d990RpuU,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-03T16:51:11.618+0000) > That exactly what I was trying to say, he had a VERY bad game, > It's more of a "joke post" but true at the spirit, it's unfair to lose games when your team is full of unskilled players. You are contradicting yourself. Its not Riots fault. No system on the planet can predict if someone is going to have a bad game or not.
As I told you, it's not a 100% serious post. But who to blame when you did a great job and your team has nothing to be reported but his lack of skill? Now, taking it seriously it will not be a bad thing to be able to evaluate your team mates more than reporting. Like Bad/Neutral/Good impact in the game. Like a Honor System 2.0 if you want. This will help to reduce "unnecessary reports" due rage against a bad team mate.
Magneset (EUW)
: Maybe because he was having a bad game? Other things IRL were bothering him? If you take a look at the players match histories you will probably find that im right in them having a bad game.
That exactly what I was trying to say, he had a VERY bad game, well 2 of them. They tried hard, did not flame (thats a huge pro) but they were koalas at the keyboard. You cannot report them, so REPORT RIOT for an unfair match making xDD It's more of a "joke post" but true at the spirit, it's unfair to lose games when your team is full of unskilled players. PS: Btw that would be not an issue if it was ONLY ONE GAME, but it's a common thing I see.
Magneset (EUW)
: I could probably scout your match history and point out 10-20-30-40-50 games where you were that exact players you are complaining about it. Your elo is similar and sometimes people have bad games including yourself. Stop being so judgemental when you dont win every single game you play.
I'm just saying it's unfair. How is a team mate able to put 2 wards all game long? Or have 0 assists? Or keep feeding while we try to help him and warn to play safe? They are not unskilled...they are VERY unskilled it's like they are playing at their account and that game the dog played the game...not even the cat could show such lack of skill or team play. That's not displaying an overly critical point of view imho.
: Bad games happen. Move on.
> [{quoted}](name=GimmeYourNumba,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=d990RpuU,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-01-03T16:08:11.378+0000) > > Bad games happen. Move on. Most of my games have this dynamics. I cannot get angry at my team mates, but they are not enough, we just lost a 5v4 game. We were surviving bot and destroyed 2 turrets and got dragon...but team fed hard and we keep feeding til the game was lost. Enemy members with 16 and 19 assists, me Nº1 of my team ONLY 7 assists. Our top with 0 assists. I can control myself, try to help very hard my adc, win always at vision, BUT I need a team...and when there is no team or team play...it's impossible to win a game =S
Rioter Comments
Shukr4n (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=DarkGargos,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=hbic9fhZ,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-12-06T10:11:21.659+0000) > > 3 players coz 1 dc. My score was good both games. Not your score. Team,score. 10-30kills with all drakes and barons.and.towers.. anyway if someone dc and they take kills motivation drops fast.
Being a ranked game should be motivation enough to try hard. But, yep, you could say Ranked games are about luck...
: 2 games 2 surrendered games by my team...ranked.
More empirical data. Last 5 games. 4 lost, 1 won. I won the game were I had 0 afks/dcs. 2/4 lost games surrendered BY my team with no vote in it. Isn't that great? =) {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} Last game I was lucky MY dc was unable to connect so we could remake.
: Are you purposely exaggerating? I can't even remember when I last had a leaver or afker that didn't come back after a minute or two meaning they just had a brief disconnect or restarted the game. 2 games in a row can happen but it doesn't make it common.
> [{quoted}](name=Contingency Plan,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=hbic9fhZ,comment-id=000800000000,timestamp=2017-12-07T13:00:34.204+0000) > > Are you purposely exaggerating? I can't even remember when I last had a leaver or afker that didn't come back after a minute or two meaning they just had a brief disconnect or restarted the game. 2 games in a row can happen but it doesn't make it common. I'm telling you I did an empirical experiment writing down all my lost games. 7/10 lost games had 1 or more dcs. This is normal on RANKEDS for me.
: There are 4 players in your team that you can get unlucky about, disconnecters, afkers or whatever you are complaining about and there are 5 players in the opponent team. Now do the math and check which team is more probable to get those given that you yourself are not a leaver. In the long run you will highly probably have less leavers than the opposing team. {{sticker:sg-ezreal}}
If 70% of my lost games have 1 or more afks/dcs. It's bad. If 70% of my lost games have 1 or more afks/dcs AND 70 of my won games have also a 70% chance of 1 or more afks. IT'S ABSOLUTELY MADNESS. A ranked game should be 100% about player skill, not about luck. It's not fair to get afk on my team, neither it is fair to get them on the enemy team.
: 2 games 2 surrendered games by my team...ranked.
After 2 games I could not even fight for (coz my team surrender with afks/dcs). Today I start my first and only game and I get 1 dc and remake. Ranked = Luck
starkk1234 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=DarkGargos,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=hbic9fhZ,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-12-06T10:10:20.489+0000) > > 3vs1 coz we had 1 dc from minute 0, he didn't make a single move. So how is it fair to be demoted this way? > When I can do LITERALLY NOTHING. > > Once again...ranked is NOT ABOUT SKILL BUT LUCK. Remake?
Cannot remake coz they connected before we could "remake" to dc withing 1s again. Not a single mouse click or movement.
: The rest of the team unanimously decided that it was time to give up. There's nothing you can do about it. That's how the voting system works. You were sadly outnumbered.
Will I be demoted for "bad luck" then?
Shukr4n (EUW)
: Seems 4 teammates thought it was enough. Depend how was score at 20mins
3 players coz 1 dc. My score was good both games.
Snow Enix (EUW)
: There is a vote system, all 4 of them could say, why is it fair for 4 of us who want to surrender because of a troll to continue playing ?
3vs1 coz we had 1 dc from minute 0, he didn't make a single move. So how is it fair to be demoted this way? When I can do LITERALLY NOTHING. Once again...ranked is NOT ABOUT SKILL BUT LUCK.
: 2 games 2 surrendered games by my team...ranked.
3 players we had 1 dc. But I mean...how is it fair? I'm 1 vs 2 bot, I'm support and I'm not feeding...I'm keeping it cool bot...helping the jungle, defending my turret...but the rest of the team is feeding hard, trolling and SURRENDERING FOR ME. So...what can I do to not be demoted? I don't even have the chance to CARRY, to FIGHT, to TRY... They surrender with 3/1 votes minute 20 with 1 dc...
Rioter Comments
: Level 0 Honor
How do you use HONOR? Can you kill better? Do you get better teams? Do you get special skins? Why do you want honor then?
: Again and again?
New game, Mid goes troll at champion selection screen, he bans top champ. selection and chooses Soraka mid, feeding hard, flaming harder. Reported by the team. Does Riot know if you banned a champion selection now days?
: Again and again?
Yep, I reported for flaming in game about racism, but I got out of options to report and could not report inappropriate name.
Rioter Comments
Hansiman (EUNE)
: I'm not arguing that AFK people aren't frustrating. However, law of big numbers do suggest they're not keeping you from climbing. The only thing that prevents that, is your own skill.
Second promotion attempt, my adc went afk under turret 3 times for 5 s and fountain at random (he should be doing something at home). I got her a very easy farming lane bot, with both enemies not taking any farm, zonning it perfectly. Top fed 0/6, but that's a bad game and so I said it to him. What's not acceptable is going away, afk, 3 times or more with no warning...If you have an issue, warn your teammates you will be afk for a while...thats the MINIMUM I ask.... I went to look her last matches...all the same, feeding hard more than 7 lost games in a row almost...a charm. ******************************************************************** Edit: 3 promo game we abused our bot lane (just like last game where my adc was afk) but this time HIS FREAKING ADC WENT TROLL AFK, he kill like 15 minions coz its hard to farm with sona zonning, and went troll... 3 promo games *4*....First REMAKE with 2 dc, 4 afk on my team, 1 afk adc, 1 afk adc So...4 games 8 afks...2 afks per game in A RANKED PROMOTION. Dude, I respect your attitude to argue until you lost it, but you have to ADMIT 5vs1 afks is not fair. Repeating, I had 5 afks within 4 games...enemy had 1...I won a game 4v5... It's not fair to ask that much a bronze support to be promoted...8 afks in 4* games...
Hansiman (EUNE)
: > How is it fair to lose games with FOUR AFKs? Let's look at the other side: How is it fair to win games due to AFK players on the opposing team? Over time, that will actually happen just about as often as you're losing games due to them. Sure, it's a frustrating situation, but it's not preventing you from climbing.
70% of my lost games had ONE or more AFKs, how is this NOT preventing me to climb? From my last 5 games won, enemy had 0 afks reported at "All" chat, I had 1+4 afk/dc members in my team. But let's assume for a second they HAD afks in their own team too...that ONLY MAKES IT WORSE, and proves my point. There are FAR TO MANY AFKs in RANKED games.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Using caps lock doesn't make your argument more valid.
Caps doesn't prove any point...Empirical proves do. I wrote down my lost games (more than 10 lost games) 7 out of 10 lost games had ONE or MORE afks. FACT +%70 afks/dc...You can say, Riot doesn't know who will be afk...ok...But 70% of lost games due AFKs or DCs is a reflect of a WEAK punishing system. How is it fair to lose games with FOUR AFKs?
Hansiman (EUNE)
: > It's simple, I cannot win forever Nobody does, so why do you assume you will? In each game, there's 10 people that want to win. 5 people will only achieve that by making you lose. --- > MY ISSUE here is HOW does it do it...5th game 1 dc How does matchmaking know that a player is going to disconnect in a game? It doesn't tell the future. --- > In my last 5 games in a row, all enemies were better ranked than me. Their rank doesn't matter, because that's not what you're being matched up based on. Matchmaking matches people based on MMR, which is a more accurate representation of current skill. It's matching you up against those enemies because you showed that you were prepared for them. However, when you go into a game with a mindset that you're going to lose, chances are you're going to lose.
Sorry man, but WHEN IM RIGHT IM RIGHT. FIVE %%%%ING GAMES WON I A ROW, 1 WITH 1 DC...MY 6 GAME MINUTE 13.......4...REPEATING.....4 AFKS AT FOUNTAIN....EAT MY FREAKING BALLS....RIOT.... HOW THE HELL IS IT FAIR? DIDN'T I TOLD YOU? MINUTE 3 ENEMY SUPPORT GET 2 KILLS AND THEY BOTH RUN 1% HP, MY ADC STARTS FLAMING AND TROLLING TO AFK AT FOUNTAIN....ALL THE REST OF THE TEAM GOES AFK AND LEAVES ME ALONE VS 5.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: You seem to assume that you're going to win every game; you're not. --- > Whatever I won 4 games in a row...every single time my team was worse. That would only be true if the opposite were also true, and I doubt you'd make such a claim. Riot doesn't have a setting in matchmaking making it harder for you to climb than anyone else. It's equal to everyone.
It's simple, I cannot win forever, so MMS makes it harder...MY ISSUE here is HOW does it do it...5th game 1 dc...we won anyway...Game 6 I got LUCKY* again and got TWO DCs with the LUCK* we were able to remake... My next game is DOOMED to be very hard, not for good enemies ofc...but for dc or bad team...In my last 5 games in a row, all enemies were better ranked than me. And got no dcs or afk...I cannot say the same sadly.
: There is a bug on the MATCH MAKING SYSTEM.
Whatever I won 4 games in a row...every single time my team was worse. My 5 game had 1 dc early game to never come back, we won...So now lets go for the 6 win with at least 2 dcs? How is it fair?
Perilum (EUW)
: Alright. Then continue to whine and stay Bronze, where you belong with your attitude. Denying how the system works, isn't a bug. It's just you stomping on the ground and whining. If you below average players would stop constantly checking on the enemy, you guys would play much better. You put yourself under pressure and look for the problems at others instead of yourself. You're the definition of a Bronze player.
You have no arguments so lets flame...very mature of you.
Perilum (EUW)
: Every time someone loses promo games in Bronze, it's a bug. Like 10 times a week. Bronze must be the place were all bugs happen in League. And usual the Bronze doesn't understand Matchmaking at all. But always fun to read the random conspiracy theories and the pointless assumptions. Again for you "expert" player: The border or current division are IRRELEVANT for the matchmaker. The only number which counts is the hidden MMR number. So if you're Silver 5 and constantly lose, then your MMR is bronze. That is why Gold players don't play with Bronze players in a new season, even when they usually get placed in high Bronze. They still play against the same people. Just the initial league division is different due the placement range.
Feel free to check, I did. The bronze team with the "hidden MMR" from winning games in bronze lost all 3 last games at least. The enemy team, silver won the last 3 games at least. So not even this point is true. Feel free to talk shit about dcs not being a disadvantage or say my MMR is diamond when I'm stuck at bronze 2. Im talking about empirical proves, numbers. -7/10 lost games with DCs. -Huge rank difference from teams.
: stay safe and do not feed is the bes tway to handle a losing botlane experience.
> [{quoted}](name=Why So Darius,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Pa7lbvVn,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-11-29T13:11:26.420+0000) > > stay safe and do not feed is the bes tway to handle a losing botlane experience. It's a lose/lose situation imho... If you try to help a suicide you feed, if you play safe you will be safe for 5 more minutes until the enemy team comes fed at you and 1 hit destroy your ass with no love at all.
: >My team was full bronze (B 4-3-2-2), enemy team was almost full silver (S 5-5-5-5//Bronze 2) wait... wait... wait... wait... you think silver 5 is inherently better than bronze? https://i.imgur.com/1QMq6MF.gif
It's fairly to assume rank means something, from this assumption if the rank difference between 2 teams is so abysmal you can say it's not the best case scenario to make a balanced game. So YES, I say a FULL team 3-4 ranks below the enemy team is more likely to lose the game. You can with a bronze 5 team vs a diamond 1 team, yep. But it's not what I would bet my money.
Shukr4n (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=DarkGargos,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Pa7lbvVn,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-29T11:29:33.178+0000) > > Yep you can be Bronze and be better than a silver its how promotions work. But you have to admit it is VERY HARD to have FIVE guys that are 3 ranks better than his actual rank and FIVE ENEMIES that are 4 ranks worst than his actual rank... > > > BTW...second promotion bot lane was ok, not perfect but positive with +4 kills in lane. but our top Yorik fed 4/11 and DISCONNECTED to NEVER COME BACK. > > So... > 1- Promotion Bronze 3 vs Silver 5 > 2- Promotion Yorik feed and dc > > It's very fair. > > 3- Third game, top dc again...%%%% this game... > > Uninstalling this shit.... Well i answered my opinion about it in the first comment. Elo and matchmaking comes from chess which is 1v1. Now move that algorhytm to a 5v5 game in which u can also duoQ. Impossible to make if flawless right?
Yep its almost impossible, if not impossible to make it 100% flawless, but...again FULL TEAM vs FULL TEAM, its too much of a rank difference to say the match making choose is fair. If we give a score to different ranks its like doing.... 1+2+2+1+1 vs 3+2+4+4+3 7<<<16 Hey and I respect your opinion, and give mine, at least your are arguing nicely your point of view. So respect.
Rioter Comments
Shukr4n (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=DarkGargos,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Pa7lbvVn,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-11-29T10:55:46.407+0000) > > Im talking of a FULL BRONZE vs a FULL SILVER almost. Mmr matter more than rank imho. Hence u could.be teamed qith better tan average bronzies against lower than.average or deranking s5
Yep you can be Bronze and be better than a silver its how promotions work. But you have to admit it is VERY HARD to have FIVE guys that are 3 ranks better than his actual rank and FIVE ENEMIES that are 4 ranks worst than his actual rank... BTW...second promotion bot lane was ok, not perfect but positive with +4 kills in lane. but our top Yorik fed 4/11 and DISCONNECTED to NEVER COME BACK. So... 1- Promotion Bronze 3 vs Silver 5 2- Promotion Yorik feed and dc It's very fair. 3- Third game, top dc again...%%%% this game... Uninstalling this shit....
Shukr4n (EUW)
: My biased comment is.matchmaking is not flawless, smurf algorhytm.is noynflawless and premades ruins.it
> [{quoted}](name=Shukr4n,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Pa7lbvVn,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-11-29T10:55:12.566+0000) > > My biased comment is.matchmaking is not flawless, smurf algorhytm.is noynflawless and premades ruins.it Im talking of a FULL BRONZE vs a FULL SILVER almost.
Rioter Comments
: 7/10 last lost games with afks/dcs.
Im using "lolking.com" live game to watch my teams ranks and it is AWFUL...last game it was TEAM ONE all bronze 2 or 3, and 1 silver 5 VS TEAM TWO 2 silver ¡4! and some bronze 1. ¿{{summoner:1}} WTF?{{summoner:1}}
: dont cry, its common
> [{quoted}](name=BreakYourHeadxD,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=YbP1bkJq,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-11-15T16:11:36.155+0000) > > dont cry, its common If it's common they should solve it.
: Unluckeeyyy!
> [{quoted}](name=I Just Stunned U,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=YbP1bkJq,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-11-15T14:54:45.293+0000) > > Unluckeeyyy! 2 afks late game =)
: Let me tell you a story: One day, I was in promos to diamond 1, with a normal between 50 and 60 winrate. I lost those promos. After that, I started loosing games. Every single game I obliterated lane, not a single lane lost, not 1, even won hard vs mid and jungler sometimes (1vs2 donger power). But guess what, every single one of those games I had to have 1 monkey below monkey level. Those are monkeys that can't even get carried quietly. And said monkeys proceeded to feed 15-20 kills in 5 minutes, to say "open" after first death, or just afk after 1 or 2 deaths. Clearly boosted accounts uncountable times. I went like this, IN A ROW, until i was about Plat 2 50 LP. It was the first time I dropped from Diamond in 3 seasons. Was with an average 16% winrate, had 10% at some point. This winrate while winning every single lane can be truly frustrating trust me, specially when u'r high elo. But I just continued to play as I normally do, and eventually started climbing again, this time with 82-90% winrates, and got back to D2 in approx 1 week. This loosing spree helped me understand the game a little bit better, and even tho I was already a law abiding summoner, this one really made me tilt proof. Cheers!
> [{quoted}](name=MarijuHeimer,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=YbP1bkJq,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-11-15T13:23:52.167+0000) > > Let me tell you a story: One day, I was in promos to diamond 1, with a normal between 50 and 60 winrate. I lost those promos. > After that, I started loosing games. Every single game I obliterated lane, not a single lane lost, not 1, even won hard vs mid and jungler sometimes (1vs2 donger power). > But guess what, every single one of those games I had to have 1 monkey below monkey level. Those are monkeys that can&#x27;t even get carried quietly. And said monkeys proceeded to feed 15-20 kills in 5 minutes, to say &quot;open&quot; after first death, or just afk after 1 or 2 deaths. Clearly boosted accounts uncountable times. > I went like this, IN A ROW, until i was about Plat 2 50 LP. It was the first time I dropped from Diamond in 3 seasons. Was with an average 16% winrate, had 10% at some point. This winrate while winning every single lane can be truly frustrating trust me, specially when u&#x27;r high elo. > > But I just continued to play as I normally do, and eventually started climbing again, this time with 82-90% winrates, and got back to D2 in approx 1 week. > This loosing spree helped me understand the game a little bit better, and even tho I was already a law abiding summoner, this one really made tilt proof. > > Cheers! I don't understand your point, when you lost all those...let us name them "monkey games" was it fair? Were you playing that bad? As I see your experience you are saying luck has a huge impact in rankeds, Am I wrong?
: 7/10 last lost games with afks/dcs.
8/11 games lost with afks...I just won a game with my adc afk almost all game long...how is it fair...
Cypherous (EUW)
: So you think the system somehow knows that a player is going to AFK ahead of time and is placing them on your team deliberately after a promotion? :P
> [{quoted}](name=Cypherous,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=YbP1bkJq,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-11-15T11:16:25.257+0000) > > So you think the system somehow knows that a player is going to AFK ahead of time and is placing them on your team deliberately after a promotion? :P The answer to that question is sad or sad. It can be like I said or just be a simple fact, there are FAR TOO MANY AFKS so the punish system does not work, choose you poison =) Btw last game won after writing this post 1 enemy afk...this is not acceptable if you ask me pal =(
Rioter Comments
: Promotion=Demotion
6/8 last lost games with 1 or more afks, this last game was tristana and ww rage quits after a dead. =) PS: 6/9 hurray a lost game with no afks! 3 team mates totally useless but not afk, thats positive =)
: Promotion=Demotion
4 out of 4 lost games due afk/dc...this game was Teemo afk fountain, with flamer/useless adc as bonus....this game SUCK hard...all I need to win games is no afk as I see it... PS: If i get 1 dc this game...I will uninstall this game...I enjoy playing but it's totally brainless continuing this way...I got a promotion yesterday with only 2 dcs...today all my team have dcs and afks...Its NOT FAIR, its NOT FUN... BTW last promotion happen just the same...the same happen to the promotion...let me say I see a patern... PS2: No afks easy win. PS3: One lose with no afks HURRAY! Another lose with 1 afk so its 5/6 lost games with afks...no good to have messages thanking me to pushing a bad behaviour player if I get 5 afks in 6 lost games...
: Promotion=Demotion
3 out of 3 last games lost due afk/dc...last game a Yasuo with 1000ms...great!
: Promotion=Demotion
4 games. 2 won games with no issues...then the match making system starts PUNISHING me...2 games lost 2 afks trolls...gg
GPet (EUW)
: I wish it would work like that, then I should be getting games where I cannot lose no matter what by now. Q.Q
I get game I cannot lose no matter what I do some times...it's the other face of this ugly coin. I don't want that either, I hope for a fair game.
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