: Unable to climb.
After a promotion day, next day ALWAYS suck, Riot gave me 2 excellent games... 1st. One rage quit Olaf and senna flaming telling to hang myself, calling my mother and doing nothing but being afk flaming wanting to surrender under nexus. 2nd. Sett playing with 900ms. So what effect has skill in climbing? It's managing your win/lose streaks due match matching giving you stones after a win streak? Putting this PREDICTABLE lost streak in the next rank protected LP? That's skill? Is that the way to climb?
Sanl (EUNE)
: Should you play Ranked? likely not
I love having a nice day, doing a promotion and KNOWING TOMORROW YOU WILL LOSE. Days after promotions are always BAD...today the 2 games next to the promo where with 1dc and 1 afk the first game...and 1 sett with 900ms connection second and last game... Even sadder is...today I'am protected about losing LP/being demoted and tomorrow, after a bad day...probably I would be able to win ez...but wait I don't have all day to grind the game...I will not play tomorrow xDD...so that defines my skill, being able to grind games when you have ez games and leaving if RIOT gives you stones as team mates...is it? Meh!
: > [{quoted}](name=DarkGargos,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=fMAYnpNE,comment-id=,timestamp=2020-02-19T10:26:51.997+0000) > > Most of the games I'm mvp/ace or second best player in my team... Tbh for every game you do well you have another game where you hard int. You average more deaths than kills and only barely do you have more assists than deaths. So you don't consistently play better than everyone else. You are a coinflip player. You either pop off really hard or you hard feed. The problem lies that you don't understand why and (psychologically) try to blame factors that don't involve yourself when trying to make sense of when you feed. You probably have a lot of bad habits that you are unaware of. You might want to either REALLY critically reevaluate everything you do (which is really hard to do) or look for a coaching session with someone who will open your eyes. I've just watched one of your recent replays and there are a ton of really basic things you are doing wrong that you probably will notice yourself by watching you own gamplay (i.e. when to push, contest level 2, you play really far back for no reason, proper back timings, understanding power spikes, ...).
Last game with MF...it was VERY hard for me...feeding early...but coz she was EXTRA BAD...when the team fights come I cachet up with the team..she did not. In this kind of situations as support, you are linked to your lane mate performance.
: > [{quoted}](name=DarkGargos,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=fMAYnpNE,comment-id=,timestamp=2020-02-19T10:26:51.997+0000) > > Most of the games I'm mvp/ace or second best player in my team... Tbh for every game you do well you have another game where you hard int. You average more deaths than kills and only barely do you have more assists than deaths. So you don't consistently play better than everyone else. You are a coinflip player. You either pop off really hard or you hard feed. The problem lies that you don't understand why and (psychologically) try to blame factors that don't involve yourself when trying to make sense of when you feed. You probably have a lot of bad habits that you are unaware of. You might want to either REALLY critically reevaluate everything you do (which is really hard to do) or look for a coaching session with someone who will open your eyes. I've just watched one of your recent replays and there are a ton of really basic things you are doing wrong that you probably will notice yourself by watching you own gamplay (i.e. when to push, contest level 2, you play really far back for no reason, proper back timings, understanding power spikes, ...).
I am a "low elo" player I know that far. I need to improve, I know that too, I want to. Issue here is partly what you said, the coin flip, but not about ONLY me, but MOSTLY from my team. I explain it further. Yep I have bad and worse games, but it's very hard to have nice game when only your lane is winning and all others are feeding, you are getting ganked by fed mid and jungle, etc... It's VERY hard to improve with "random teams" with very bad habits. More if you play solo Q support. Main support, not supposed to get too many kills.
: Be a little more honest with yourself. You don't play well often enough. You have too many deaths and your kill participation is quite low for brand. Probably better to rush rylais on support brand if you're struggling to stay alive, followed by haunting guide.
You have a huge point here with the deaths. But to be honest, most games were I die a lot is coz either all the rest of the lanes are 0/10 or my adc is playing afk (not using heal, not helping, not pinging. Playing like a bot, just unable to know what he will do). But yep, its a big thing to improve myself. I tend to have this "support mentality" to play FOR the team, if they kill me but we get 2 kills and 1 turret, I go for it. I need to be able to do that only when it is "super worth it" I guess.
Rioter Comments
: Not acceptable...
What's the point playing a PROMOTION being the best player in all games, carrying last game from bot lane with all other lanes 1/10...to be able to carry til they after feeding went afk troll not being able to surrender.... Is it fair for me to not pass the promo in this conditions?
: Not acceptable...
It is WEIRD how EXACT is the OP.GG individual score. After finishing a game, I watch the scores and BINGO! Top and mid doing awful in game, reflect exactly in the score given. And again...as support...you can carry your lane early and carry another one...but you cannot take the place of 2 bad/semi afk players taking no farm, feeding, refusing to play...1 can do...2...erm...impossible.
Mannerone (EUW)
: This is a joke ( but it's not a funny one ). Riot Banning system
IMHO verbal ban is the less important of them all. If they "verbal abuse" you just mute, end of this kind of "trolling behaviour". They serious "trolling behaviours" to attack from the banning system should be dcs, rage quits, afks, int. feeders...and all those troll behaviours that effect the game with no solution from the affected users. There is where WE NEED RIOT'S PROTECTION.
: please just delete ranked
I would love them to improve their "anti-trolling system" for ranked games... It is hard to climb with more than 1 troll in the team. I would be extra hard punishing RANKED faults and ban players only from there.
Naniup (EUW)
: This is not possible!!!!
You can climb with negative win rate winning the hard ones and loosing when you are protected. That's no issue. The real issue is being unable to climb even being demoted doing S grade games, playing for the team.
: To all whining snowflakes: write the ultimate algorithm that can predict how a person will behave and how well he will play. When you have it just send it to RIOT. Problem solved. If you can't do it STOP WHINING.
It's as easy as banning trolls. Troll being afk, dc, rage quits, int. feeding... Easy to spot them...OP.GG has an individual score system in every single game...it is very hard to go below 5/10...if you watch a ranked history of several games...let's say below 4/10...just take a look into that player. Having 2 or more trolls every single game is not acceptable at all.
Zbum (EUW)
: Nothing, I was plat 4 with near 60% win rate in preseason and still climbing as a mostly solo Q off meta pick (I didn't play during the season). Now? I have like 36% win rate. It is partly my fault for not being a meta whore, but really I shouldn't need to be a meta whore to at least get 50% win rate. Too many idiots at the start of season I think. And yes, mathematically you are more likely to have less idiots on your team than the enemy team. But that doesn't mean you are going to have less idiots. It's chance, sometimes you win the lottery, metaphorically.
Third game...being the best on my team ACE with S grade...demoted...xDD 7.5/10 average and still unable to carry alone... Being second best player both teams in 2 games...demoted xDDD This ranked mode is a bad joke.
Seph80 (EUNE)
: Ranked
Too many trolls to give any meaning at all at your skill. Long made short...sad too...I only hope for my game to have ONLY ONE dc or afk or int. feeding or troll...not two or more...
Rioter Comments
Seph80 (EUNE)
: Ranked
Same here, with op.gg individual score, you can see I am average 6-7 /10. So my skill display is constant...but when in my team are at least 2 players bellow 5/10 in the op.gg score...meaning they are useless, no farm, no kills, no assists, no vision...no POSITIVE impact in the game, my team loses. That's added to an enemy team scoring all above 7/10 due having a super ez game. And we will not start talking about afks, rage quits, trolls coz you didn't help enough in jungle...
Soretal (EUNE)
: "It's your fault bro! You did not lose because your team!"
Yep, a single player cannot impact the game enough to win or lose. If you have 2 afk, or 2 bad players feeding or trolling you cannot pressure enough, kill enough, help enough, control the map or do objectives.(notice I didn't even started with 1 afk or feeding or troll, that's the usual and "carriable") Yesterday, Rengar jumps to the whole enemy team (with blizt) and dies alone, enrages and comes bot to troll, take all farm...a few minutes later adc and top go afk...so you have 1 troll and 2 afks in a ranked game...sad enough that's not that unusual at all. But the game before, a enemy player went afk early game and we won ez, they surrender. So...YOUR IMPACT >> MATCH MATCHING LUCK That's the hard truth about ranked solo Q in troll land League of Legends.
Rioter Comments
manolis201 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=HercaZ,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=Y7xIEB8K,comment-id=001300000000,timestamp=2020-01-20T15:41:04.052+0000) > > Dude... it sounds pretty amazing, but the problem is that nasus is fed AF and has 600+ stacks... he can tank the whole game by himself.. Does not matter how good you are as a support if you get in his range you are pretty much dead.. > > And who the hell does not pick exhaust as supporter? its a must in every game... Well i said if you lose from a nasus its fine the champ is horrible in high elo anyways as i know i dont play him so its fair for me to lose vs him cause i know much later will be easier to win vs him in higher elos as someone in the team will know how to count him good so dont worry it happenes.
My point is...in solo Q it is almost pure luck to climb...you can help it by playing like an ace...but the best player will lose with most of the teams we can see in our match making...
ExoIce (EUW)
: Climbing a Broken ladder in Ranked - Solo/duo
Your personal improvement or performance matter SHIT when you have 2-3 players playing/having very BAD game... I mean...I play solo Q support...I know I have to do more than support...I have to help carrying...but...try to carry when you are 4/0/1 as support but your top is 0/8 and enemy top nasus is 17 kills at minute 15...Add mid feeding, jungle farming alone and adc flaming about me taking the kills when he is 2 screens behind the action... I'm very consistent with my games, usually in the op.gg score I go from 6-8/10...but how can I win if my team has 2 players below 5/10 and the enemy team is fed as %%%% and all over 6/10.
Kaluchii (EUW)
: Worst experience SOLOQ so far in 10 years.
Hear you...Game 1, voli troll, int. feeding, giving camps to the enemy waiting them to last hit em, giving up, flaming.... And Riot does nothing this season either... It's a shame, this game with a normal community is a great competitive game. Pls ban trolls from ranked games.
: Is it possible to win?
I had horrible games...but an Ashe trying hard to get 35 farm in 20 minutes...how anybody can support that? Mid and jungle were not that better... 2 lost games in this new season with human beings worse than bots... I try to make them better...staying cool, telling them to farm and play safe, giving vision, etc...but there is no win after all...being the best on my team again and again, staying cool but getting no reward at all.
: New players are getting matched in gold and plat. I made a video breaking down my match history you can have a look if you want. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clUTIpXWHNI&t
> [{quoted}](name=Wolity,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ONds3A0s,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2020-01-04T10:00:17.436+0000) > > New players are getting matched in gold and plat. I made a video breaking down my match history you can have a look if you want. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clUTIpXWHNI&t It is sadly fun how OP.GG is able to detect trolls, afk, int. feeding, boosted accounts, etc....but Riot keeps ignoring all of it.
: haha welcome to ranked, you can win a toin then woosh you're dropping :D
> [{quoted}](name=Artori Paradigm,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ONds3A0s,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2020-01-04T11:18:36.481+0000) > > haha welcome to ranked, you can win a toin then woosh you're dropping :D Here it comes, best of both teams and yet my team lost xD It has started!! xDD
: Terrible Matchmaking
Today I am very scared... I played 4 games...I won 4 games...4 games where the enemy team was EXTREMELY BAD...I'm talking about draven minute 15, 23cs.... Today I am very scared than tomorrow I will be on the other side...again...losing games in a row even playing better than yesterday...unable to do anything at all... {{sticker:sg-jinx}}
Semaka (EUW)
: > patorport1: %%% YOU U %%%GOT {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
Key word = Ban Trolling hard = Clap clap, ada boy... Riot rules...
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Alzokdal (EUW)
: Playing support in solo queue, ranked, has been an absolute nightmare so far
Playing support solo Q you have to play a carry support. The chances your adc is bad are high, the chances of 1 team mate afk, are very high...so you have to be able to take their place. Before...you could take a dc place...now with the new support item punishment for minion farming after 1000g...you are %%%%ed if your team is unable to carry. You have to sell your support item losing a lot of money to be able to farm..so most times is not worth selling, not worth keeping and you can do nothing to help as support giving kills... So support is even harder and less appealing to play in solo Q were you know you hardly will have a supportable team.
: EUW Ranked down with zero information?
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Forsan (EUW)
: The system just works 👌
Yep, 0 toxic behaviour in League of Legends. Nobody flames. Nobody goes afk. Nobody goes dc. NoNoodle int. feed. ...
: OP.GG is not supported by RIOT-> can not be used as reason to ban
My point is...OP.GG did it. So can RIOT.
: Solution to toxic behaviour.
https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/g9W7xmry-riot-just-go-opgg-to-ban-trolls-pls Use OP.G score from 1/10 rating player performance to ban users playing 3/10 several games. It is that easy.
: i dont think this is fare
You said the "%%%GOT" key word...just learn to avoid keyword and you can flame all you want. Anyway it is sad to be banned for texting rude stuff but not for ruining ranked games going afk, afk farming, dc, int. feeding, etc...
: > if your score is below 3 in 5 of your last 20 games You need to explain this, what score? We're talking about K/D/A. And even with this system you still rely on people having to check each case manually? That seems difficult to do because again, millions of players.
I'm talking about the OP score, a score from 1 to 10 for every single player in the game. It reflects excellently the player game.
: > in SEVERAL games And there you added another variable :D ---- Like the others said, there are some pretty bad games in your match history, sometimes even close together. ** So is a player going 1/7, 2/10, and 0/5 in consecutive games trolling or not?** --- And if the system needed 4 or more games of consistently playing bad (ie. probably trolling), would you be happy with that? Hell no, you'd still be complaining about that system you're proposing right now. --- Sorry, try again. How would you do it if you were working at Riot?
> [{quoted}](name=Torpedosheep,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=g9W7xmry,comment-id=000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-16T16:06:41.759+0000) > > And there you added another variable :D > > ---- > Like the others said, there are some pretty bad games in your match history, > sometimes even close together. > ** > So is a player going 1/7, 2/10, and 0/5 in consecutive games trolling or not?** > --- > And if the system needed 4 or more games of consistently playing bad (ie. probably trolling), would you be happy with that? > > Hell no, you'd still be complaining about that system you're proposing right now. > > --- > Sorry, try again. How would you do it if you were working at Riot? It is as simple like a rule basic rule, if your score is below 3 in 5 of your last 20 games, you are banned... You could use it as a filtering system to analyse in person only users tagged as tools by this system... Ffs it is SO EASY...
: Banned for 14 days after receiving key fragments almost daily for honors. AMA
You can get a 15 day ban only for saying a keyword aka any homophobic, racist, etc...key word. But if you feed, afk farm, go afk, go dc, help the enemy team...always in the limits of the banning bot...you will be fine screwing games to other people... Coz...saying a key word in the chat is A LOT WORSE THAN SCREWING GAMES.
: Why is every support playing non support champions
Coz you cannot support a stone, and sadly that's what happen in lol solo Q. Solo Q is so random, and punishing system is so bad...the chances of having 1 dc, 1 troll, 1 int. feeding is so high, you need to be able to take that players position if you want to be able to help the team.
: >We are talking about players going **afk, dc, int. feeding AND SAYING IT**. You just added 4 new variables that you believe should be taken into account. Which directly contradicts the main statement of your post: > Just go "OP.GG" and look for players with 3/10 score in several games...IT IS THAT EZ Sadly it is not "that easy". You have to take multiple aspects into account, as you said yourself. Otherwise, getting some bad games like you did just last week would indeed get you banned. --- Besides with millions of matches being played each day, who's going to sit on OP.GG and review them all?
> [{quoted}](name=Torpedosheep,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=g9W7xmry,comment-id=0000000000010000,timestamp=2019-12-16T10:55:56.871+0000) > > You just added 4 new variables that you believe should be taken into account. > Which directly contradicts the main statement of your post: > > Sadly it is not "that easy". > You have to take multiple aspects into account, as you said yourself. > > Otherwise, getting some bad games like you did just last week would indeed get you banned. > > --- > Besides with millions of matches being played each day, who's going to sit on OP.GG and review them all? 4 variables? Afk, dc, int. feeding and saying it? Are you kidding me? I SEE ONLY 1 VARIABLE, TROLLING. OP.GG detects it almost 100% correct. If you go afk, if you int. fed, if you dc....your score sucks. It is that ez. Should you ban a player for having a performance A LOT LOWER than average in SEVERAL games? Imho, YES. You can train, try new champs, let your friend play, play a game after party, etc... in LoL, just don't doint in competitive mode aka RANKED GAMES. So yes, it is THAT easy.
: Maybe getting some helpful tips from his teammates like _ "just play safe"_ or _"stop inting"_ would've helped there. :^)
> [{quoted}](name=Torpedosheep,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=g9W7xmry,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-12-16T10:00:51.645+0000) > > Maybe getting some helpful tips from his teammates like _ "just play safe"_ or _"stop inting"_ > would've helped there. :^) Ashe was afk trolling and flaming, vayne was afk. You can mute a flamer, ez done. You cannot help a troll who actively wants to troll, we are not talking about bad players having a bad game. We are talking about players going afk, dc, int. feeding AND SAYING IT. This is not the community's fault, this is the lack of punishment and CONTROL of the community fault.
: >Riot: I don't know when the players are trolling. Me: Just go "OP.GG" and look for players with 3/10 score in several games...IT IS THAT EZ. *looks at your match history* i guess you're a troll too then...
> [{quoted}](name=Sinful Succubus,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=g9W7xmry,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-16T09:57:28.410+0000) > > Me: Just go "OP.GG" and look for players with 3/10 score in several games...IT IS THAT EZ. > > *looks at your match history* > > i guess you're a troll too then... I am ACE 5/8 games lost. I tried trolling ONE SINGLE GAME to test my theory, a game with Sona 2.9 score. So yep it works. Thank you for confirming my argument, you are welcome =P
Rioter Comments
PurpleOrk (EUW)
: If he didn't say any wrong words in chat, why would they ban him? He's not being toxic ^^
Yep...say "THE KEY WORDS" (homophobic, rascist....) or keep trolling... Afk farming, int. feeding, etc...FREE!
Rademenes17 (EUNE)
: How he's not banned yet?
Riot is a JOKE. First game... adc goes troll afk and stay afk...tops goes afk 5 minutes after....Ranked game with 2 afks bang! (The worst part is that being usual)
: Is match matching stuck?
Ace, ace, ace...I'm literally the best on my team again and again but I am UNABLE TO WIN xDD 1st game today, adc goes troll afk at second turret bush, flaming there...top after 5 minutes with adc afk goes afk too... With 2 afks we manage to kill enemies, but unable to push or do objectives so at first baron we lose...WITH 2 FREAKING AFKs on the team...AGAIN... Riot...you are so, so bad at controlling your community...you are 100% toxicity.
: Match 6: ADC spens a lot of time afk under tower, most likely chatting somewhere else, ints mid game 😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄
Second game, enemy shaco has better score on op.gg than my jungle and adc together...I am the ace again...I lose again...Feelings, scores, numbers and op.gg say all the same...I'm doing fine, but my team sucks hard.
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CJXander (EUNE)
: Had a look at OP's games, he was the ace in most of the lost games, pretty sad, happens to me as well. His match history: https://i.imgur.com/o2Mxv0I.png
Same here, 6 games in a row being ace, none of those won games. Last game best of BOTH teams by far, score of 8...worse enemy player was better than second best player in my team... Sad.
: Fair matches - Each team is roughly the same skill
On op.gg last game i had 8/10 score...best both team. I kill, assist, done a ton of damage, help my team vision, objectives...a great game...it was like playing vs bots. But that was all, I was all my team got...I was the best player BOTH teams...but...the worth enemy player was better than my team's best second player...aka...I did nice but ALL MY TEAM were far worse than ALL the enemy team... Not much I can do if RIOT gives me lemons and ask for orange juice...
: As far as I can see, a ton of players are getting banned for toxic behaviour, so the system should be working as intended. And I do believe they work hard on imrpoving the system, as they want the community to be a healthy one!
As I see there are lots of toxic players in every single game, so the punishing system is not enough.
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