DeRoo (EUW)
: I'll say it a 3rd time. Maybe this time you might understand. It's about *denying the enemy team vision*. If everything is warded from both sides, it's about which team is better skilled. If you have a vision advantage, ie.. You use *pinks*... you have an advantage in picks and fights. Pinks are 10x better than a normal ward. It's not about a "full vision map", It's about making the enemy blind. You seem you have missed that point multiple times now. By your "skill" logic, you should get the skilled players too. 4 on your team and 5 on the other. Statistically, the enemy has more of a chance. But thats not counting YOU as a skilled player. Im not saying you arent skilled, you probably are! ...if you are, you have an advantage every game. Cos your team has a guaranteed skilled player every game - you. But if you want to keep blaming others, that's fine. Don't take any help from anyone. Don't learn. Just flame your team and flame the boards. Because that my friend, is obviously the key to you climbing to where you want to be. Bye.. Win or Learn.
Man, I don't know how to say it. I'm using non-stop swaping lense and destroying a bunch of enemy wards every single game. If that's not denying enemy team vision, if doing that full map, objectives, random sweeping, etc...is not denying enemy vision, what the hell do you mean? Last 3 games n1 destroying wards, one game with 13 enemy wards destroyed. What do I lack to do then?
DeRoo (EUW)
: Oh wow... facepalm... You seem to have missed the point. It's not about warding objectives. It's about denying the enemy team vision. #facepalm... keep blaming others though bro. ...Cos you're obviously the perfect support challenger player while me? Well... I'm just a boosted diamond support right? What do i know? Jeez... I should really stop giving advice listen to your superior wisdom... I must be completely wrong... forget my advice on vision *control*, forget my tip on backing on and going mid, I won't give any more tips sir. You're clearly don't need to look inward to be better. You are the best. /sarcasm In all honesty, I don't think I am good at league. I am diamond. I always blame myself. And I always grow. I'm trying to help. But your attitude is not helping you. Usually I never say anything cos of things like this... Best of luck in future. And I honestly mean that. Cos you won't climb if you dont want to improve. You'll need the luck :/
> [{quoted}](name=DeRoo,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=nFAp4MLI,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-09-20T08:38:02.965+0000) > > Oh wow... facepalm... > > You seem to have missed the point. It's not about warding objectives. It's about denying the enemy team vision. #facepalm... keep blaming others though bro. > > ...Cos you're obviously the perfect support challenger player while me? Well... I'm just a boosted diamond support right? What do i know? Jeez... I should really stop giving advice listen to your superior wisdom... I must be completely wrong... forget my advice on vision *control*, forget my tip on backing on and going mid, I won't give any more tips sir. You're clearly don't need to look inward to be better. You are the best. > /sarcasm > > In all honesty, I don't think I am good at league. I am diamond. I always blame myself. And I always grow. I'm trying to help. But your attitude is not helping you. Usually I never say anything cos of things like this... Best of luck in future. And I honestly mean that. Cos you won't climb if you dont want to improve. You'll need the luck :/ Last game, wards placed+wads destroyed +20, game before +30 Vision with no skill means nothing, at bronze most team don't even use minimap, they couldn't use a full vision map either. They see, but do NOT understand. Like you I guess. PS: I'm looking at my last games, all of them but 1, I have Nº1 vision score, both teams. It's not only a sensation, I'm doing that job right. (the single game I didn't get n1 vision was vs Zydra passive) I'm thankful to you trying to help me, but I feel you lack to understand that your point is taken and done. But that's not the only neither the main issue im facing.
abelha (EUW)
: how about the other games you won because some on the other team fed and left?
> [{quoted}](name=abelha,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=nFAp4MLI,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-09-20T07:45:19.633+0000) > > how about the other games you won because some on the other team fed and left? I would add that to the "sad feeling" I'm not happy to win a game 5v4 its not fair.
DeRoo (EUW)
: Well I can't comment because I didn't see the game. But judging by your stats, you are buying one control ward per game. How do you control every drake and baron with the same control ward? That's not gonna work well. In my most recent game, I bought 4 control wards. Before that, 7 control wards on Sona. And before that 11 control wards playing Karma support. That's one difference between Diamond and Bronze. Vision control. But it shouldn't be needed in Bronze as much as Diamond due to the high amount of mistakes in bronze. If you are good enough, you should be able to pick a carry and carry the entire game. I understand support is hard in low elo, so maybe try a different role to climb. That would be my only recommendation if you don't wish to improve your support game. If you do wish to improve it, the first tip I'd give is go mid after every back playing support. Place a ward. Then go bot. Spend as little time as possible in the shop. If you see a gank opportunity in mid when placing the ward, do it. I always try to win bot and mid lane when I play support. For example my blitz win rate is in the 70%'s because I just rush boots and roam mid constantly.
Dude, wards and vision are not the issue on most of my games, I ward objectives I ward jungle, I'm next to the dragon the enemy is killing...MY JUNGLE IS KILLING MINIONS NEXT TO THE DRAGON WITH SMITE ON. They have eyes, they do NOT use them.
DeRoo (EUW)
: You've a 46% win rate in ranked. Naturally you are prone to demotion. Your recent win rate is more important than overall though...
> [{quoted}](name=DeRoo,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=nFAp4MLI,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-09-18T22:57:50.186+0000) > > You've a 46% win rate in ranked. Naturally you are prone to demotion. > > Your recent win rate is more important than overall though... Can you tell it was his fault to lose those games? Was it due afk, bad players, trolls? It's a team based game, a single member can do little to drastically change 1 game. Last game I was Poppy support/tank with 9/6/15 full tank build helping my team (adc no damage due no skill, top playing alone refusing to help the team). Adc did less damage than me, Poppy support/tank, mid blamed me for taking the kills but even my adc defended me saying the kills were all legit. So what can I do to win that game? I did all my work good/very good, ward, support, tank, kills, warning pings, chat help, etc..
v47 (EUW)
: Sad demotion
I had promotions with 2 and 3 games with 1 afk in my team. Last 6 game I had 5 games in a row with 1 afk, last game with a bad adc and top laner was no afk but was playing alone his lane pushing til he was kill again and again ignoring team pings and saying "I will not help you". That's what the community WANTS, I want to ban all that behaviour but I'm the odd one here...so that's what is FAIR in this game, have afks...
: TWO games, TWO AFKs...
Whatever 4th game with 1 afk either on MY team or the ENEMY team...this is not fair/fun.
: Well my games yesterday went terrible but happens i don't blame riot for that. 5 loses one after the other and one (unfair ) win it was just a bad day. first game:top couldn't play as maokai vs rene lost hard and yeah he one shot me and my adc at mid game (he was 6/0 or 7/0).He w>q me and bye bye soraka. 2nd game:My team played pretty randomly and again we lost the game before we even reach mid game.Bot as even at the start maybe we where a bit behind but not enough to allow twitch become a super carry.Some good roams from ahri some bad plays from us a 0/5 zed yeah twitch went out of control and gg! 3rd game:That was a lose but i enjoyed it .Was a very nice game.I wish all my loses ended up that way. 4th game:Similar game with the 1rst one top and mid went 0/5 early game ..pretty bad game. 5th game:Afk top.He connected and dc like 20 times. 6th game:Enemy team had afk so they open mid .Bad game again. So in total i only played 1 game till the end rest where pretty much over by 15 mins .But happens sometimes i can't blame riot because it's end of season this is happening always .Players are not paying a lot of attention at rank games anyone they just play to avoid getting demoted . So 2 games afk in my case but the result is the same (1 win / 1 lose). Now for the "bad players" (i wouldn't call them trolls because they didn;t run down they just played bad during these games) i have to check older games which i had played..I am sure i will find similar players at the enemy teams at games which i easily won so again the result is the same and maybe a bit in favor of me.
> [{quoted}](name=Achates NamiXxX,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=ePUzBXjx,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-09-18T12:59:21.842+0000) > > Well my games yesterday went terrible but happens i don't blame riot for that. > > 5 loses one after the other and one (unfair ) win it was just a bad day. > first game:top couldn't play as maokai vs rene lost hard and yeah he one shot me and my adc at mid game (he was 6/0 or 7/0) > 2nd game:My team played pretty randomly and again we lost the game before we even reach mid game. > 3rd game:That was a lose but i enjoyed it .Was a very nice game > 4th game:Similar game with the 1rst one top and mid went 0/5 early game ..pretty bad game. > 5th game:Afk top > 6th game:Enemy team had afk . > > > So in total i only played 1 game till the end rest where pretty much over by 15 mins .But happens sometimes i can't blame riot because it's end of season this is happening always .Players are not paying a lot of attention at rank games anyone they just play to avoid getting demoted . > So 2 games afk in my case but the result is the same (1 win / 1 lose). > Now for the "bad players" (i wouldn't call them trolls because they didn;t run down they just played bad during these games) i have to check older games which i had played..I am sure i will find similar players at the enemy teams at games which i easily won so again the result is the same and maybe a bit in favor of me. Bad players are not trolls, bad players are an acceptable thing. What's not accetable are int. feeding hard (1v5 again and again), going afk, verbal abuse/negative attitude not wanting to play/staying at fountain flaming. THOSE are the things you CAN SOLVE by BANNING. "I cannot blame Riot" Are you kidding me? Six games with 2 afks and "bad players" is not that bad, but I'm talking about a huge percentage of "unfair" games due toxicity. I'm talking about 100%, 2 of 2, all of them, all games unfair due toxic behaviour...That's what you can blame RIOT about it.
: If they are afking in base then I can see the point but if they disconnect and 'afk' because of it, there is a chance they might not be able to connect back in time before the game is over. Looking at windows 10 random disconnect and updates for this reason...
> [{quoted}](name=Chika Hakozaki 0,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=ePUzBXjx,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2017-09-18T12:55:20.920+0000) > > If they are afking in base then I can see the point but if they disconnect and 'afk' because of it, there is a chance they might not be able to connect back in time before the game is over. Looking at windows 10 random disconnect and updates for this reason... It's easy to stop updates with windows 10 and I helped some team members to stop them. You can have a singular issue one, two, three times...but if that was the cause...I will not finds afks 3 games in a row. When you find toxic behaviour, int. feeding, afk after trying to surrender, etc...thats a thing you can improve by banning that kind of behaviour.
: Reporting Peoples is useless
They should punish A LOT harder. Toxic behaviours doesn't go away by ignoring them.
: Dumb post. Yes, afk's are annoying, but there are in fact problems that can cause people to afk, like a connection/energy cutdown. I can imagine you want to ban people for being afk once, this won't happen because of simple stuff like this. Don't act like you never had to afk in any of your league games.
If you have a PUNCTUAL issue you will not be banned but warned...if your issue is not going back you don't deserve to screw other players again and again, you deserve to be BANNED. When you find afk players every single game (I remember my last win with the enemy team playing with 1 afk, which makes 3 games in a row with 1 afk) there are no punctual power, internet, etc issues. Less if your LEE PLAYER votes 3 times to surrender, winning the game and later goes AFK. Those are no seperated singular issues those are Toxic behaviours, so perma ban them.
Rioter Comments
Altiverse (EUNE)
: Seriously these ADC mains
Last game troll ADC 0/14 x9 report. Most of the games have 2-3 totally unskilled players. Funny fact, I win my WORSE games by far.
Rioter Comments
: Have you truly read my entire post, or have you merely assumed what I was trying to tell you. Games like these will happen. And you are going to lose. So what? You will also have games where someone on the enemy team will go afk, or feed out of control. Those games won't matter because they will still be just drops of water in the ocean of **an entire season of ranked play**. So prove you can go up or stay where you are. The choice is up to you.
That's why I say "Two demotions in a row with dcs in my team". The demotion from silver was with 1 dc, to bronze IV too and there were plenty of games with dcs in my team and maybe 1-2 with dcs in the enemy team. And that's only talking of DCs, not about player skills on my team. More than skill I ask for a minimum of cooperation/reaction, like...if you are 0/8 and your team is telling you to play safe and wait for help, please, stop chasing. Well my team members do not undestand that.
: So you lost a couple of games, got on board of tilt-express and rode it all the way to Bronze 2? Mate, let me share a secret with you. You will have games like that in every elo. You just have to accept that. You should always try your hardest to win games, but there will be games that even when you play your best, it won't be enough. However, there will also be games where all the bad things that have happened to you will happen to the enemy team. You have an entire season to prove you don't belong in whatever elo you feel trapped in. Free wins and inescapable losses even each other out over time. But there will be games where neither your nor their team have braindeads on board. Here is where you will have a clear chance to prove yourself. If you can perform consistently in these games, you will definitely climb. This approach to climbing is called the 40/40/20 rule. I'm sure you've heard it somewhere before. 40% of all games are automatic defeats, just like yours were yesterday. 40% are automatic victories, because their team will play horribly, have someone tilt, rage, afk, etc. But the last 20%? That is where only you matter. So here's the deal. Put your LP where your mouth is and prove you belong higher than you currently are. There is nothing and no one who can hold you back other than you yourself.
Talking about last game I did a nice job, I got my adc fed, helped mid, take 1 dragon, warded objectives and map, save some asses, stayied cool with bad players, tryied to help...and my fed ADC got DC. Are you telling it's my bad, I should be able to win with 2 unskilled players feeding and refusing to interact with the team and 1 dc? Sir, you are delusional.
GLurch (EUW)
: I was just asking a question out of curiosity. I didn't argue with you about anything, so I don't need any arguments. So, are you the +10?
I'm not the +10, neither should I be a +10 to win at bronze or silver. I don't pretend to be so good to carry 2 total "negative skill users" and 1 dc...I don't thing it would be FAIR to ask me to do that in the first place to be able to progress. All I ask for is users able to communicate and play as a team. If they are feeding and all team members tell them to play safe, map is warded, pings are used and nobody is flaming....They should be able to "LISTEN" to all that and have a POSITIVE REACTION instead of keep going 1v5 deep chasing with all enemy team ss. I don't think its that much to ask on a team based game...just some cooperation/reaction/interaction with the team.
GLurch (EUW)
: Let me guess, you are the +10?
Let me guess, that your argument.
Rioter Comments
: This game community is a pile of bullshit that make me puke hard with harmony....
My bullocks are full...playing Alistar support and watching lux, trundle, jinx or ww going 1v5 vs a feed team again and again. I told them to go back, used pings, etc...there is NOTHING else to do, there is NO WAY to help those team.
4dc0nly (EUW)
: Hope you don't take offense... You are Bronze 1 after 500 games aprox.? With 30% Win Ratio? I agree with some points... There are a lot of players that think they are good, when actually, they are not at all. If you want to improve: 1) Mute all. All comments at your elo are like yours: trash. You don't want to spend time chatting nor listening to garbage. 2) Support Role is not to do the MOST damage. If you want to be the damage dealer pick ADC or MID. When you play to do the MOST damage, your ADC might be dying. I 3) This account was placed in Bronze 1 after my placements, 3 weeks later was gold. It is an hardous trip, because you have to carry. But each role carries differently. I will explain what my knowledge dictates: SUPPORT: support the team, keep vision (most important) and deny vision. Keep your fed carry alive at all times. Protect her, nurse her. Win the laning phase (aka play for your adc so she can farm freely) MID: option 1, assassin, win lane solo early and become a splitpusher monster late. option 2, mage, don't die early and become a AoE damage monster staying with your team. ADC: sustained damage, take objectives: turrets, dragons and nashors. TOP: option 1, tank, be the front line soaking for your team and putting the CC. Option 2, splitpusher, you can lrue the attention of multiple enemies and get away without giving kills while putting pressure. JUNGLE: secure objectives. Steal buffs. PUT VISION overall on deep jungle so lanes are aware of ganks and you can steal camps. General tips: always buy a pink when you have 75gold spare... Always. Sightstone underrated below plat. People don't react to pings. But if you placed a ward that shows enemy jungler coming... They might react to your ping, or even see the enemy jungler before you on the minimap. Top TP underrated... at Bronze you can just carry yourself with good TPs. Even at silver. Or just roaming. Hard to do good TPs mainly because people don't even ward or pink crucial points, but enemies overextend with wave on their backs and you can TP to minions. Stop typing in chat. Stop looking at chat. You are placed were you deserve until you improve.
I know warding it's important, but the main issue here is my team goes 3v5 vs a team fed, with baron and out the turrets. I'm sorry to say so but no wards can help here.
Rioter Comments
: Demote me already pls
Suprise, DEMOTED...a team with with all lanes feeding...but thats not the worse, you can be bad...but flaming is a choise...they flamed eachother aaaaaall game long... Me as Sona, suporting a Cait flaming our mid (a terrible kasa feeding, no damage and no farm) coz he didn't want to play as ADC...and cait was feeding, doing no damage and taking no farm either so...try to support that xDDD
Str33TXeR (EUW)
: Want a beautiful game experience? Stop playing support :D and get a early-mid champ that can solo carry each game. You heard me, no late game champs because bronze, silver and low gold divisions have their games ended before 30-35 minute mark. Good luck!
I think you are right. But I love to play support in a great team a score like 0/0/40 and I'm happy.
: Demote me already pls
Last Game Yasuo goes troll and int feed blaming his Jungle, to later steal farm from all lanes. Our pour Katarina with no skill got no kills no damage. My adc to support was Vayne who did well enough with kills with my help but had no farm at all. Another game with Sona support with more damage than champs like Kata and Vayne taking no farm and focusing in warding, helping, talking and saving asses from my team mates...Honored from my team mates and enemies but in a hard feeding and bad team due a troll (Yasuo) and a bad player (katarina). I'm positive at thinking its impossible to rank up as support.
: Lol and how is bronze supposed to be any better? People might be less toxic there, yes, but you're much more likely to encounter int feeders, afkers, teemo trolls and legit autists there. Just keep on winning till you reach mid/high silver MMR and you'll be fine.
I cannot win with 2 dc, or the kind of teams I get in Silver. Every single time I reached Silver this season, about 4-5 times I lost almost all matches with a very very bad game experience due my team members, but I'm protected to be in a new league so I can't get demoted... Yep I want to win and rank up, but I need a nice game experience (no afks, flamers, int. feeders, dcs) to do that and I don't see that coming.
archerno1 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=DarkGargos,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=UE1AaX5v,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-07-12T08:52:54.355+0000) > > Game 2: > As Sona support more damage than Yi and Jhin, more kills and more assists...team feeding hard about 25-3. > > I cannot be demoted coz the new league protection...pls pls pls...demote me so I can have a nice game experience... I was gonna ask why do you build Lich Bane and Ludens on support Sona... But i feel like answer will drop down my IQ
> [{quoted}](name=archerno1,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=UE1AaX5v,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-07-12T09:24:52.983+0000) > > I was gonna ask why do you build Lich Bane and Ludens on support Sona... But i feel like answer will drop down my IQ ADC dc or afk. But I build it anyway, cdr, movement speed, ability scale, etc...nice to have with ardent cencer
: Demote me already pls
Game 2: As Sona support more damage than Yi and Jhin, more kills and more assists...team feeding hard about 25-3. I cannot be demoted coz the new league protection...pls pls pls...demote me so I can have a nice game experience...
Rioter Comments
Daymage (EUW)
: How is the game still so toxic?
Easy question, easy answer...and shorter... THEY DON'T GET BANNED. That simple, free flaming, feeding, afk/dc, trolling....for free! =)
Rioter Comments
Primo88 (EUW)
: Please disable in-game chat and add more pings
Yep, no need to chat. There is only flaming there xD
: Riot has a new troll.
At very single game since the promotion to silver I have at least one of those: -Afk -Dc -Int. feeder -Feeder -FlamerS. Maybe a support can carry a whole team if he is good enough, but I'm not good enough to win with 2 guys 0/10 and 1 afk...I'm not unable to boost my ADC when we are 3vs2 bot all the times =S I don't really know what to do =/
Scrinnid (EUNE)
: At some point you get mentally exhausted for the seemingly lack of action. Thats when you afk a game or 2 that is not worth your time anyway since it's better to read a book or invest money somewhere you get actual return, than just wasting time on a 40 minute flameroom
I guess it's called hope...
: so im watching your Games, your win rate is very low and like 90% of all games your kda is negative.....
Yep, thats after the promotion. And yep my games are going worse every single game due lack of motivation and good spirit. I need to say as a main support it's normal to get neutral kda ratios, imho my job as support is to get my adc fed as %%%% and help my team, vision and objectives. For me its worth to die and cause 2 kills to my adc, as a support i don't give that much gold when I die. Before the promotions I had better games, but that's not the point, I'm NOT her to say IM GOOD MY TEAM IS BAD, all I'm saying is the lack of cooperation and behaviour in my teams since promotion. I said to in a appart point, they are bad, but that's not a real issue, my issue is with flamers and afks.
: Aww, that's too sad sweetie. Im sure you're the only one experiencing this in all the world and the fact that you have chosen to become part of the problem instead of helping solve it in no way makes you just as bad as the rest of them. I do in no way implore you to change your attitude or anything, since i am aware that you cause is just and your spirit fueled by the flames of righteousness. Go forth and carry the flame of revolution into the hearts of silvers everywhere! (That is, until you inevitably get banned){{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
I would love that, sadly enough I don't get even warned...As Kansas said....Carry on my flaming son! For there will be peace when you are done! So sad an unicorn dies for every flaming guy born....{{item:3073}}
: Never expect players to get better from 1 tier to another
It's not that at all, my teams are a lot worse than before. I'm no longer having fun due to minute 1 flaming and losing 1st turret coz my adc is afk and my jungle does not help. I see flaming and flaming and more flaming every single game and I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY ARE NOT BANNED =S
Rioter Comments
Haxoor (EUNE)
: Yea and on the 4th day half of them would just start another account welp. And where is $$ for RITO in banning so many ppl :P
Let them start another account, let them behave or get banned again. Imho I think a warning every 3 month is fair enough to forgive a "bad day" if you are perma flaming and you don't even get warned, something is not working. I have been playing for years at LOL and I think i only got 1 warning, never been banned. I'm not a super flaming guy, but I'm not a sister of charity either, I deserve to get banned for some time in my opinion. But nop, nothing, FREE FLAMING.
Haxoor (EUNE)
: I explain it this way: If everyone who said these things got banned, literally half of eune would be banned tomorrow (not counting me out since when ppl start flaming and piss me off I write back to them sometimes). And I'm talking from the gold perspective I can't even imagine how things are in bronze welp Do you think RITO want to ban half it's player base for chat that you can mute? {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
Yep, you will warn 80% of the player base first day, you will ban 60% next day...but there would be a better game experience just the next. I would love to play in a toxic free game.
: THEY do get punished. Yes, people is plural.
IF they get punished...how do you explain so many "trolls" in every single match on both teams?
Baka Red (EUNE)
: Even though winning might be unlikely, it does not mean "cannot". Yes you can. ;) "You cannot win with 1-2 afks." Enemy team can have 3-5 afks. Easy win. Or the rest of your team is filled with Pro players smurfing, and you yourself might play better than ever and get chosen to their team. Big win! "You cannot win with flamers who int. feed." Enemy team can have 3-5 inters. Easy win. "You cannot win with 3 bad players in your team feeding 20 kills minute 10." Enemy team can all lose connection for rest of the match. Easy win. Almost nothing is impossible, some things are just more unlikely than others. Negativity won't help you win though and surrendering teams have 100% loss ratio. Weird thing that. ;)
Same as I told Mada, I dont give up, but it's not the best scenario when you have 2 afks.
Mada (EUW)
: You can win with 1-2 afks.
Yep, you can, but it's not the best situation to win.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: You can climb as a support just fine. There's no role that's truly better at climbing than others; it depends on your playstyle. --- I'll give you a small piece of advice that you should consider: As a support, part of your job is to ward to help your team obtain vision. In this game, vision of the map is vital in order to secure a victory, since it allows your team to be able to set up strategies and claim objectives safely, knowing when to back out since they can see where the enemy is. At the same time, your job is also to deny the enemy vision. If you allow them vision, they're negating the advantage you're getting with your wards. When you're playing support, you purchase the Sightstone, which is good. However, you exchange your Warding Totem with Farsight Alteration, which is honestly quite pointless. As a support, you should **always** exchange your Warding Totem with the Oracle's Lense once you've built the Sightstone, and swap that out with the Oracle's Alteration once you back after you've hit level 9. This trinket allows you to spot and remove enemy wards, denying them vision. Since you have the Sightstone, there's no need for you to get the Farsight Alteration. That item is better used for ADC or Mid characters, since they generally don't want to move to a spot where they can use Oracle Alteration, or thrown down a ward close to themselves. This is something you can improve on, which you can use to help yourself climb.
I like fairsight of alteration when we have map control i can spot and help my jungle to spot enemies faster. I ward all map and objectives and sometimes I steal more dragons than my jungle can take. But my skill is not the issue here. Last game a Tristana with no skill, hard early game but a nice team...Most of the players at bronze are not worth 100% supporting with a Janna or a Leona or thresh...I would love it, but if i take those god supports, i can do nothing if my team is bad. With other supports like Morgana, "Lux, poppy, etc" i can support and/or carry. Last game my adc was not worth supporting i changed my Poppy from full tank to cc and won the game helping my Top instead of my adc.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: But now you're making excuses for why it's ok for you to have 10 deaths, but it's not ok for anyone else. Honestly: Focus less on the mistakes your allies do, and focus more on your own. In your next game, you'll be provided with a 4 new allies, but you bring the mistakes you do with you from your last game. If you work to solve the mistakes you're doing, you'll have a more positive impact on the outcome of your game, which in turn will make it more likely for you to win.
I play as a support, if my team is having a hard time my job is to help them, I try to help them with their lanes fed and their lack of skill, i die, its normal.
archerno1 (EUNE)
: I somehow dont think u know what intentional feeding is
Running to turret again and again, running 1 vs 5 not attacking, etc...that is what I see in my game =)
: I'm using master YI to climb atm! :D Hes should a good champion to carry with even even its 3 vs 5! ^^ https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=DragonGate
Yep you can solo play with a Yi or a Tryndamere, solo farming and playing alone, but the game is not about that if you love to play support.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: > Last game, we had that 3 players feeding 20 kills at minute 10 =) In your last game, the highest death a player got in total was 13, and there's no real sign it was done intentionally. Being outplayed doesn't mean a player is intentionally feeding. In the game prior to that, the highest amount of deaths a player got was 11. You yourself died 10 times in that game. --- It's very easy to blame everyone else for losing your games, but that's the attitude that will ensure that you aren't able to become better and climb the ladder. The more games you play, the more your personal skill decides where you end up on the ladder. Measuring the "state of the game" from 2-3 games won't give you an accurate answer. Play 100+ games, and then see.
" we had that 3 players feeding 20 kills at minute 10 =)" not each one. Anyway, the fact is, they lack the skill and discipline to play smart, they keep feeding not listening to team pings, etc... When there are 3 players with this lack of skill/discipline/common sense...its hard to do anything good at all. The game where i died 10 times i was 5/3 or something like that, but teamfights where bad coz trindamere and vlad flamed eachother and didnt help the team.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: So why are your opponents able to win with the exact same players that you struggle with on your team? Your allies come from the exact same pool of players that your opponents do. There's no system that stalks you around ensuring that your team is the only team that has underperforming players.
That's the theory, 2 last games though...The enemy team had 1 troll int. feeding...my team had 2 =) Last game, we had that 3 players feeding 20 kills at minute 10 =) I cannot understand a player who is feeding 0/8 and keep doing the same over and over hoping the result will be different =S
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