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DearPear (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Queen Of The Sea,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=xOTJfEsA,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-02-08T03:18:53.752+0000) > > That's the thing, I am winning games. > As I said in my post: I've been in promos 4 days in a row now and yet I'm still losing 20 lp per loss. I shouldn't be punished with a 20lp loss simply because I don't win my promos. 20lp loss is actually average. So I don't see how it is a punishment.
It's not average when you win less than you lose
OlmiLux (EUW)
: What do you want? You went on a losing streak, your MMR dropped down, and the league system tries to place you where you deserve. This has an easy fix: win games
> [{quoted}](name=OlmiLux,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=xOTJfEsA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-02-07T22:41:47.445+0000) > > What do you want? You went on a losing streak, your MMR dropped down, and the league system tries to place you where you deserve. > > > This has an easy fix: win games That's the thing, I am winning games. As I said in my post: I've been in promos 4 days in a row now and yet I'm still losing 20 lp per loss. I shouldn't be punished with a 20lp loss simply because I don't win my promos.
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Hansiman (EUNE)
: solo players will also just queue up for solo-queue, not flex. I'm guessing queue times for 4man premades in flex would be too high to compensate.
I actually queue up for flex solo and I imagine a lot of other people do aswell. It's not hard to reach gold and seen as Riot promised us an extra gift if we got gold in both queues..
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exurbia (EUW)
: sounds neat, but i've got some questions first. what is your goal for the community? is it one person who formed this, or multiple? do you have a name yet?
what is your goal for the community? We're looking to help people improve their skills and maybe even compete in tournaments. Once we have a few more members we will start looking for coaches who can coach both teams and individuals. is it one person who formed this, or multiple? I am the main founder, there is also a secondary founder but he doesn't have as much time to spend on it as me. do you have a name yet? We are Gamers Grotto
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: Chose your lane
I agree, the icons are quite ugly and I do hope they change them to something smoother.
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Rstonius (EUW)
: Plat 2 ADC main LFT
Hi there, We're actually looking for an ADC right now. Take a look at this thread and feel free to apply! http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/team-recruitment-en/0ALa5dwP-looking-for-platinum-low-diamond-players-to-join-team Hope to see you soon
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Hansiman (EUNE)
: Yes, messages only appear when a player got a 14 day ban, or permaban. Chat restrictions never trigger the message. And most people you report will end up with a chat restrictions, and out of those players, most of them actually reform and don't get punished again later.
That explains quite a lot, thanks.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Because some players actually wanted the message, so they found a balance to suit the most amount of players. You can be sure that when you do receive the pop-up, most likely it was someone you reported in your last game, and it's guaranteed they ended up with a 14 day ban, or permaban.
So the ones I get a message about are the ones that get something like a ban?
Hansiman (EUNE)
: All data shows that the current system is far more effective than the old system. Having an opinion that differs from the raw data doesn't change these facts. The notifications will actually just rarely pop up, which is exactly as intended. Riot audited the community regarding these types of messages, and found that a large portion of the playerbase didn't care for these messages at all, so they will only pop up in some occasions to avoid spamming players. For instance, the messages will never appear if a player is punished with any form of chat restriction, which most of the players you report probably end up with. The current system targets to handle a case within 15 minutes after a game ends where a players behaviour triggers an investigation. The old system could take between 2-4 weeks to handle a case, and the reform rate was lower due to the age of cases. Since the goal of Riot's behaviour systems is to reform players, going for the one that shows the highest reform rates is pretty obvious.
I'm going to ask you the same as I asked someone else: So then why give us a message at all? If they send me a message saying that someone I've reported has been punished, I expect them to do this every time someone has been punished. If they don't do that, then don't send me a message at all because it serves no purpose except letting me know the system is working which it should do in the first place.
duckarp (EUNE)
: Frequency of pop-ups doesn't indicate performance of the system. It doesn't show every time someone was punished, that would be silly. Old tribunal couldn't keep up with the amount of reports and was often unreliable. Automated system is much better when it comes to a such huge community of players.
So then why give us a message at all? If they send me a message saying that someone I've reported has been punished, I expect them to do this every time someone has been punished. If they don't do that, then don't send me a message at all because it serves no purpose except letting me know the system is working which it should do in the first place.
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Noxxarian (EUNE)
: The problem is that in Heroes of the Storm, you can't really feed anyone since the experience is shared. In the same way, when the player returns he will be equally strong as the rest of his team. Meanwhile here, as bots would have it, they are a lot easier to kill, especially to players who are better at the game. In late game especially when players rely on signals to evade ganks. With a bot, every gank would be successful resulting in the enemy team being fed even more than they would if the player was afk. I thought it was a great suggestion as well but the mechanics are a bit different when comparing HotS and LoL. I'd just like to add that the mechanic which says if your collective team level is higher, your minions are stronger is pretty ridiculous. It means an afk player damages the game even further. Perhaps working on removing the player entirely after a while, preventing him from returning, and giving the remaining four players an increase in experience income so they compensate. I dunno. Ugh it's a complex world xD
The last part of your comment sounds like an interesting suggestion aswell. As for the bots: They started with easy bot and added advanced later on, im sure that if we give Riot some time (And with some i mean A LOT) they would be able to make bots that are even more advanced, and actually listen to pings etc.
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Twizzlerz (EUW)
: Your mmr is probably pretty low then, since you got demoted. I've lost heaps of games at 0 lp, not demoted even once. What division were you before? It's pretty tough to be demoted from a V division of any kind, your mmr usually has to be almost av entire tier lower for that to happen. What I gather from the situation at hand, is that your mmr is still too low (aka, you're playing against players you should be winning against for your division), so you lose more LP for every loss.
I was Silver 5, promoted to silver 3 then demoted from Silver 3 18 LP to Silver 4.
Twizzlerz (EUW)
: Your mmr must be pretty low then, to still rob you of that much lp. How much do you earn for a win? Blaming feeders and afkers is a bit off to me, since your team has a lesser chance of getting one of those (assuming you don't afk/feed yourself). In the long run, this won't matter if you truly belong higher in the ladder.
Update: The demote was back to the division I came from and I'm still losing 22lp.
Twizzlerz (EUW)
: Your mmr must be pretty low then, to still rob you of that much lp. How much do you earn for a win? Blaming feeders and afkers is a bit off to me, since your team has a lesser chance of getting one of those (assuming you don't afk/feed yourself). In the long run, this won't matter if you truly belong higher in the ladder.
And yet it still happens. I gain 20 for wins. And I just went from 18LP to demoted a division lower. GG wp.
Twizzlerz (EUW)
: A bit of a scary thing to implement, just go as a 5 man premade in solo q (which is a thing next season) and have a member leave if it seemingly isn't going your way. Entire team loses less, and with a rotation of who leaves you'll hinder too much punishment. Or you can bully a non-premade as a 4 man premade to make them leave. The fact that you lose so much, is probably because your rating is too high compared to your mmr. You're playing against statistically worse players and to hurry your descend to your right rank you lose more. I lose about 11-15 lp (lowest loss was at 8 lp) at a time, since I'm losing against players better than me. Try to improve, win more games and you'll see that you'll lose less. ;)
I have won more, and i have improved. I was on a 14 win streak, hence losing so much LP. Since then, all i've had in my team are afkers and intentional feeders. Seems a bit harsh that I should lose so much LP for that as I said.
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QueenD88 (EUW)
: No, just so we don't have to put up with the rest of you that already hate us anyway.
Your reasons just keep getting worse and worse
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