: its not the game , its the champs. 32 years here and my reactions ain't slowed down one bit yet but if u look at katarina... INSTANT blinks, instant.... means no fcking way to react to that no matter how fast u r. every game that has a kata, she goes snowball cause of this. all newer champs have mechanics like that aswell. also this is the main reason worlds become boring as %%%%, ppl know they can't outplay some champs so they just don't bother to try to fight them anymore. cause u know that certain champ will outplay u if u try.
Yeah! that's the point. You need to give animations before instant jumps. It's better for the spectator too
Febos (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=DevilWorld,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=PZdy8QVM,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-11-18T15:41:50.008+0000) > > So having a meta that forces you to have a high speed reaction time takes out older people. Let me see if I got this right. You want Riot to dumb down the game because as players get older they start to play worse? Excuse me, but I'd rather not live in fantasy world. Not everyone can be challenger. There's literally a hard cap to how many challengers players can exist in any region. There's a reason for that. It's called competition. If you're not good enough to reach their level... well... to bad. You don't see other sports changing their rules to accommodate "less skilled" players. My point is, why do you feel the need to dumb down the game? Also, where does it stop? That sort of mentality is a slippery slope. *** > [{quoted}](name=DevilWorld,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=PZdy8QVM,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-11-18T15:41:50.008+0000) > > xPeke, Ocelote, Faker are gods on all of that skills, but their reaction time gone down, so they can't micro on profesional level. So what? That argument is whack. Those players you mentioned can still kick your ass with one eye closed. They might not be able to compete against the best of the best, but they're much better than most other players.
Never said dumb or worse. I said it's about the timing on reflexes Skill it's based in what you want to be skill. NBA put the 3 point lane to give less tall an oportunity, took the cannister higher so it's harder to defend for taller. So player became dumb? No It's stupid thinking there is only 1 skill and it's reflexes.
Kashiro (EUNE)
: You can't be pro forever. You would need to rework whole league system as it was never really made like Battlerite where everything is made a skillshot to be played around. With age you become worse at everything and no rule-changing will fix it.
I don't think needs a major rework, just some tweeks. Ashe for example doesn't need rework, because W will hit you anyway (less than 0.15 but wide angle) and you can see R from a far (more than 0.3 sec) Zed or Lee for example yes, it will need rework on numbers and animation, but not on the skills. That's why they work too good on competitive plays, they are for this 15-20 years old with high speed and throw out any older guy Garen, Aatrox(got animation before hit), Sion(got animation before hit), Nocturne(E got timer), Sivir(Q it's low speed) for example are fine too :) Kayle Q it's high speed already so it's correctly set, but it wasn't, only dodgable by prediction and not by reflexes
Febos (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=DevilWorld,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=PZdy8QVM,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-11-18T13:08:28.111+0000) > > The change to get players compiting of every age it's to **set right timers**. Every character, movement and skill should be balanced with that in mind. > You want a skill to be a reaction dash? It should give you at least 0.3 sec between the casting and the window to press the button. > You want a skill to be a prediction dash? It should give you under 0.15 sec between the casting and the window to press the button. I've read this 5 times now and I still have no idea of what the _quackary_ you're talking about.
maybe it's because Im not english. Between 13-20 years you are at your peak reaction time. Usually you can make a decision in about 150 ms. Each year has you got older your reaction time grows, a 30 years old can be near 250 ms. So having a meta that forces you to have a high speed reaction time takes out older people. You still have strategy, tactics, predictions, team play that I think should be the main skill on a MOBA. xPeke, Ocelote, Faker are gods on all of that skills, but their reaction time gone down, so they can't micro on profesional level. My point is if you got a color blind person, you adapt the art so he can play too. We can adapt the meta for the same reason. Like the 3 points lane on basketball too, it's to give more oportunity's to shorter people
Febos (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=ÜFudginator,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=PZdy8QVM,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-18T13:19:26.227+0000) > > They should just disallow under 18s anyway. Why? Because younger folk are better than you? Whack. {{sticker:sg-lulu}}
I think it's about pro means professional. Working should be for adult's, but this isnt the aim of the threat and I don't see a solution to " ban" people.
: They should just disallow under 18s anyway. BUT, the parents are the ones who are responsible for their offspring's behaviour so I don't blame Riot for not implementing something like that.
I agree less than 18 years you shouldn't aim to be a pro, but the numbers in the meta aim to that. I put 25+ but the truth it's more near 22. Our legend xPeke since 22+ years the decline was too heavy. Ocelote since 23+ years. Now Faker it's really going down with 23 years, next year he won't be even seen has a legend. So Legends never die, but get too old to play ... at %%%%ing 23 years.
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